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Pictured: Islamic militants stone man to death for adultery in Somalia as villagers are forced to watch

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Last updated at 3:28 PM on 15th December 2009

This barbaric scene belongs in the Dark Ages, but pictures emerged today of a group of Islamic militants who forced villagers to watch as they stoned a man to death for adultery.

Mohamed Abukar Ibrahim, a 48-year-old, was buried in a hole up to his chest and pelted with rocks until he died.

The group responsible, Hizbul Islam, also shot dead a man they claimed was a murderer.

But the verdict was so shocking that it prompted a gun battle between rivals within the group that left three militants dead, witnesses said.

The executions took place yesterday in Afgoye, some 20 miles south-west of the capital of Mogadishu.

Hizbul Islam fighters ordered hundreds of residents to a field, where a rebel judge announced that the two men had confessed to murder and adultery.

No mercy: The militants bury Ibrahim in the ground in a village south-west of lawless Mogadishu, Somalia

A woman who had confessed to fornication had been sentenced to 100 lashes, he added.

'This is their day of justice,' the judge, Osman Siidow Hasan, told the crowd. 'We investigated and they confessed.'

But when some Hizbul Islam fighters wanted to delay the executions, a bloody gun battle broke out between the two factions, shocked residents said.

Gruesome end: Hizbul Islam group members pelt Ibrahim until his face is a bloody mess and he dies. His face has been pixellated on grounds of taste

'Three Hizbul Islam fighters died and five others were injured after they fought each other," Halima Osman, an Afgoye shopkeeper, told Reuters in Mogadishu by telephone.

'Some wanted to delay the execution while the others insisted. They exchanged fire. The group that was against the execution was overpowered and chased away,' she said.

Once the gun battle was over, the militants coldly carried out the verdicts.

A relative of the murder victim shot the first as he lay on the floor.

'I could not watch,' local man Ali Gabow told Reuters. 'The lady who had been with the second man was only given 100 lashes because she said she had never married.'

The executions were the first time that Hizbul Islam guerillas had dealt out the type of punishments usually associated with the more hardline al Shabaab rebel group in Somalia.

The U.S. claims that al Shabaab is al Qaeda's proxy in the failed Horn of Africa state. That rival Islamic groups are beginning to align their practices with al Shabaab is a chilling twist in the already frightening militancy that is gripping the country.

President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed's Western-backed government controls just a few strategic sites in Mogadishu.

The second condemned man is shot dead at point blank range by a relative of the man he was convicted of murdering

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1235763/Pictured-Islamic-militants-stone-man-death-adultery-Somalia-villagers-forced-watch.html

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When will this Islamic war start so I can take cover?. How will muslims come together to fight?. The 21st century world is way bigger than Medina.

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@Aloy~Emeka: « #94 on: Today at 07:27:13 AM »

Islam may be under treat, but Muslims are not at war, right now. For the Quran says that all muslims should fight together, not as sect or group. Muhammad and his entire community fought. Thats a single and common agreement! Now, as to Ayatullah, there was a man who was abusing Muhammad (AS) in his day as a leader of powerful Madina state, he did not allow anyone to respond to the man, so no was allowed to threaten his life. We know of many others and even a woman who poisoned him.

As for Farouk, it is in the Quran that one should not be unjust to anyone because of any hatred that one may have because of somebody's behavior. I also know that it is evil to kill innocent people. Those who are not fighting you, directly. Farouk was not being fought by anyone. Further, muslims are warned not to ever start a war. No one is fighting the whole of Muslims! If there is any, let me know. Muslims are warned, again not to be renegades, but should act as a single body, and until we have a true leadership; Kalifah, it is not possible to even talk about anything. Then the enemy of islam will ahev to declare war on Islam. It is then you can begin to see the rule of war in Islam. We have rule(s), and no one should go beyond the limit.

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In an islamic state, apostasy is tantamount to high treason and is punishable by death. Even in the bible the punishment for apostacy is death.

History has shown that christians killed more than any religius group for crimes of apostacy and even heresy. Have you forgotten Joan of th Arc that ws burnt at the stake for heresy only to be canonized recently by the same catholic church.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with suicide bombing or terrorism

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@aloy emeka,do not mix what is beyond the Law with what is within the Law.In the Law of God,anybody who abuses any Prophet of God(starting from Prophet Adam(AS) down to Prophet Muhammad(SAW)] with passion is to be killed.What Salman Rushdie did was that he abused and molested Prophet Muhammad hence he has to be killed.The reason why God decreed them 2 b killed is that,by what they are saying they can destroy the generations to come i.e not allowing them to be Godly.Even the current generation,there are some people who do not know much about their religion,and after hearing what Salman Rushdie said falsefully and ignorantly about Muhammad or any other Prophet of God,they may turn to be atheists which will drive them to Hell Fire on the Day of Judgement,and God do not want us 2 end up in Hell,that is why anybody who is trying to lure people away from the way of God(with what he is saying)has to be killed.Aloy emeka,u may claim those Laws were only with Moses and not with Jesus but Jesus said in Matt 5:17 that"Do not think that i have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;i have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.".This is what is in the Bible,don't deny it.The Quran said in Quran 2v42:"And mix not the truth with falsehood,nor conceal the truth(i.e what is written in your scriptures e.g Laws,Muhammad's prophecies in Torah and Injeel(Gospel)while you know (the truth.".The British were happy for what Salman did and that was why they keep him with them and also awarding him with the title "knight"which means "Sir",but are they going to keep him from God on the Day of Judgement?we shall see.

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Didn't you agree with Abuzola sometime ago that Allah decrees the death sentence given to apostates?. What is the difference between what Farouk did and what Ayotallah Khomeni[the former arch pope of Islam] tried to do on Salmon Rushdie?

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Toba I have stated by piece. It is the same with Ruhu concerning extremism and definition of Jihad! Go and read what I wrote.

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God have mercy.This is d first time in my life to hear a muslim speak d truth.Wow so Allah doesnt support killing oneself/others.This means bin laden,taliban,iraqi insurgents,hamas who practises suiside bombing are in trouble.glory be to Allah

people like abuzola will not like ruhus comments becos he supports extremism

@olabowale do u agree 100% with ruhu or u av some reservations?

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ruhu, may Allah conyinue to bless you for the good job

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@aloy emeka,

Muhammad will surely say it was an extreme act which is beyond the limit of Jihad.see Quran 2v30:"And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight u,but transgress not the limits.Truly,Allah likes not the transgressors".From this verse,Allah said we should fight only the people fighting us whom must also be the party that started the fight and ordered that we should not go beyond this i.e killing innocents,those who do not fight us,any attempt to go beyond dt is disliked by God,and hence attracts punishment.In d jet where d man was reportedly 2 have attempted 2 blow off,there might also be muslims inside it,if 2 say he was successful in the bomb plot and eventually killed a muslim or muslims and die like that(through suicide bombing)is dat matyrdom?.Moreover,suicide bombing is also haram in Islam cos u are deliberately committing suicide.The Prophet (SAW) said that whoever kill himself with a knife or poison or any how he uses,he will be punished with dat object he usd 2 kill himself or any mode he used on d Day of Judgement.

So i think i've answered ur question with the above verse and its explanations.ISLAM IS PEACE AND A WAY OF LIFE.

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What will Mohammed say  if asked his opinion about the actions of 23 year old Farouk Mutallab in Detroit bound plane on december 25th?. Give a quranic verse to justify your claim.

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U people may also ask me anything bothering u about Islam and by God willing i will answer u.

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@Toba,u said Jesus was not a law enforcer but why did he said in Matt 5:17 that"Do not think that i have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;i have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them".Toba,the Law is never anyman's law dt anyman can just abolish,it is the Law of God ur creator,my creator,Jesus' creator and the creator of everything.Normally,even we human beings,we can't organise or manage any economy without law otherwise we will have a disorganised world,in any family,there are don'ts and do's set out by d head of the family i.e father over the children,even d clubs have constitutions,every nation has his own constitution.We human beings with our BRAIN,we know dt laws are compulsory in any given socio-geographical setting.Now how will God the creator of the whole universe decide not to make laws on a setting that is even comprehensive where u see different human beings,different characters,different languages,different colours,different races,different ideologies etc.Think about this and also with what Jesus said above.

@aloy emeka,what i posted was "go and find out what is Islam"and not muslims because if u decide to base ur findings on muslims,u may end up not having d required result cos we are human beings,there are some human beings who act according to their religion and there are some who act in an extreme way but think they are acting religiously.What Farouk attempted to do is not of Islam,cos Islam will not tell u 2 kill some people who never attempted to kill u,this Islam is a religion of peace,we fight only when some people fights us and never go beyond that i.e killing innocent people,burning trees,tires,houses and the likes.Farouk was only frustrated on the state of Islam i.e how we are being oppressed by the US,Israel etc on Palestine,Iraq,Chechnya,Afghanistan,Lebanon etc.Though we are being oppressed,it doesn't call 4 extremism,fanaticism,it calls to retaliate directly to the people fighting us i.e the US,British,Israeli troops but as we are not having enough weapon,we have to be patient and see what God will do,we don't have to cross the boundary of Jihad.So if truly u want to find out what is Islam,go and do ur research mainly on the religion of Islam and nothing else.

Once again,ISLAM IS UNIQUE.

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I wanted to read your response today with an open heart but whenever i remember what your brother, Abdul Farouk did today in Detroit in the name of your Allah, my mind tells me to shut off Islam completely. My mind remains open nevertheless but i am slowly running out of patience.

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Christianity is a relationship.Jesus said any1 who believes in me believes in God.Thk God muslims beleive in jesus.Like d prophet of old moses,ur mohammed were law enforcers i.e break d law&be killed.Jesus said ive come dat they might have life in abundance.All d commandments&laws including sharia were simplified into 2 by jesus in mark 12 vs 29-31.LOVE GOD WITH ALL UR HEART&LOVE UR NEIGHBOUR AS UR SELF.Any1 who follows dis is sure of heaven.So forget religion doctrines&constitution,focus on heaven

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U may be saying God forbid repeatedly,but look at d verses i've posted above though there are still many verses like those ones even more comprehensive than those ones above in d Quran but think about them,i know i can't influence ur faith,it is God who influences,changes and guides 2 d right path but just think deeply with an objective mind about Islam and Christianity and also do some researches on d two also.If u think dt u ve been practicing one religion 4 d past 3 decades and it is working 4 u,it doesn't mean it is d right path,go and ask d ogun worshippers to stop worshipping ogun, they will tell u d same dt it is working 4 them because Allah had said that it is he who has designed d faith of other religions as they will see it as d right path but the opposite is d case.As concerning d Prophets,mind u,in Islam we don't believe dt some Prophets are inferior which is one of d reason why dis religion of Islam is a unique one among all religions,the only accepted religion by God as far as dis generation is concern.Remember to read on Islam and Christianity with an open mind without bias.

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ruhu,there are diff btw christianity&islam.Islam is a religion,while christianity is a way of life&not a religion.Religion is based on law,customs,doctrines&beliefs.Thats y muslims must pray 5times, fast by force,kill ram by force,face d sun to pray.Fine its based on tradition&predetermined way of doing things through laws/codes eg sharia.Now christianity isnt any of d above.Christianity is formed from christ.Jesus came to teach&show d way to God to mankind.see john 14.Jesus didnt force any religion or mode of worship or church on any1

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U may be saying God forbid repeatedly,but look at d verses i've posted above though there are still many verses like those ones even more comprehensive than those ones above in d Quran but think about them,i know i can't influence ur faith,it is God who influences,changes and guides 2 d right path but just think deeply with an objective mind about Islam and Christianity and also do some researches on d two also.If u think dt u ve been practicing one religion 4 d past 3 decades and it is working 4 u,it doesn't mean it is d right path,go and ask d ogun worshippers to stop worshipping ogun, they will tell u d same dt it is working 4 them because Allah had said that it is he who has designed d faith of other religions as they will see it as d right path but the opposite is d case.As concerning d Prophets,mind u,in Islam we don't believe dt some Prophets are inferior which is one of d reason why dis religion of Islam is a unique one among all religions,the only accepted religion by God as far as dis generation is concern.Remember to read on Islam and Christianity with an open mind without bias.

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God forbid me from changing my belief on jesus as d son of God or many other things the bible called him.I rather die than to change faith.If u believe in something for over 3decades&it worked for u&it still works,why change.I repeat God forbid.I av seen d light why forsake it&return to darkness.God forbid.As regards other lesser prophets,i agree with u that they made mistakes,dats what i called sin in my post.They were human like u&i.But Jesus is super human&more than all the prophets join together.1corinthians chapter15

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Toba,if u believe part of messengers of God and u disbelieve in part,then why call urself a believer?,if u consider some messengers as sinners,then how are u a believer then?.In Islam,we believe all of them excluding none,even it is an obligation in Islam to believe all messengers of God,it is in the SIX ARTICLES OF FAITH.And again,in Islam,none of the messengers of God was ever a sinner instead,they make mistakes,and what are mistakes?,things u do unintentionally,unconsciously,unknowingly and also their mistakes are not even many at all,they are rare and dat is why though they were humans but they were "special ones",and that is why also they were Messengers of God.

So,if u believe in part and disbelieve in part of them,Toba,check ur faith and redesign it b4 it is too late i.e b4 death comes.

In Qur'an 2v85,God said", then do you believe in a part of the scripture and reject the rest?, "Also in Qur'an 2v87-91,God said"And indeed,we gave Moosa(Moses)the Book and followed him up with a succession of Messengers.And we gave Iesa(Jesus),the son of Maryam(Mary),a clear signs and supported him with Rooh-ul-Qudus[Jibrael(Gabriel)].Is it that whenever there came to you a messenger with what you yourselves desired not,you grew arrogant?some,you disbelieved and some,you killed.

And they say,"Our hearts are wrapped(i.e do not hear or understand Allah's word)".Nay,Allah has cursed them for their disbelief,so little is that which they believe.

And when there came to them(the Jews and Christians),a Book (this Quran)from Allah confirming what is with them although aforetime they had invoked Allah(for coming of Muhammad)in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved,then when there came to them that which they had recognised,they disbelieved in it.So let the Curse of Allah be on the disbelievers(after knowing the truth).

How bad is that for which they have sold their ownselves,that they should disbelieve in that which Allah has revealed(the Quran)grudging that Allah should reveal of His Grace unto whom He wills of His slaves(Muhammad).So they have drawn on themselves wrath upon wrath.And for the disbelievers,there is disgracing torment.

And when it is said to them,"Believe in what Allah has sent down,"they say,"we believe in what was sent down to us."And they disbelieve in that which came after it,while it is the truth confirming what is with them.Say(O Muhammad)to them "why then have you killed the Prophets of Allah aforetime,if you indeed have been believers?."

Toba why are u(xtians) okay dt Jesus was crucified?though it is a tradition of the Israelites to disagree or kill God's Prophets but d issue of Jesus was different.An attempt was made on his life but,God saved and ascended him to heaven and God casted the image of him(Jesus) on Judas hence Judas was the one crucified and not Jesus really. LookToba,the coming back of Jesus doesn't mean he is superior 2 Muhammad,as i have said he is coming to clarify some misunderstandings about him of u people(xtians) on "he is God" and "he is son of God" and "he was crucified and died 4 our sins" and the likes.He is not coming back as a new prophet or messenger,he is going to bring nothing new except to correct some misunderstandings,confirm Islam as the only religion by this generation accepted by God,fight the unbelievers,Kill Dajjal(Anti-christ),and bring peace to the world.

Furthermore,he hasn't die hence his coming back,he will marry and have children and will then die and will be buried beside Muhammad in Medina.If u are confused about his miraculous birth which is making u people call him God or Son of God,what of Prophet Adam then, who didn't even had a father nor a mother?Is he God too?or is he a begotten son too?.Remember God is never hungry for blood of anybody,why will he decide 2 forgive all of us because blood has been shed?,think about it.

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@Toba; you better stop deceiving yourself. jesus was not a human? did he eat bread and fish? of course he did, and humans, animals, etc eat. We know that angels dont eat!

was Jesus born? Yes! I was born, and even Adam and Eve were not born!

Jesusrose from coma or faint. So many have been declared dead and they rose, too.

Jesus performed miracles. So many prophets did. So where is the special feature that you are talking about?

And Oral Roberts kept the commandments, and today he is dead! All of you will hope to be raptured. And I am certain that you will wait in vain!

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Olabowale,u hav litle knowledge about my post.Trying to compare jesus with other prophets is simply senseless.Mohammed,moses,john,david can be likened to each other becos they are human&sinned like u&i.Theres uniqueness about them apart from the works God commissioned to them which they did.But for JESUS EVERYTHING IS EXTRA ORDINARY&HE SHALL RETURN TO TAKE UP THOSE THAT KEPT HIS COMMANDMENTS.So man no doll ur self

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john never married. So not being married is now the thing that elevates? for sure then the homos are the most elevated, by your statement.

and there is no prophet after Muhammad (AS). all the lying ones are even in nigeria, today. count them man.

Muhammad (AS) by Surah Isra and najm and ahadith concering Isra wa Miraj is not honored less than Ruh. So what are you saying, man? Toba is loss for words.

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One thing u should also kno ruhu is dat is more than a prophet.Yes a prophet but more than others.Prophets of old(in bible&quran)&even our present day life in Ngr etc get married,have sex,fight etc but jesus never did.The way he was born is unique&even d way he died&resurrected is glorious.Thk God u know hes coming back.Its to show how superior jesus is compared with mohammed&other prophet.After God,the next is jesus&will forever remain God's begotten son

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@ruhu.Ur post makes sense a bit,not 100%.Jesus was neva a jihadist&would neva be one.3 instances.He said if u re slapped in ur left ear turn d other,he said if u go to preach& u re chased away,take ur sandal&walk away.When jesus was about to be crucified,peter his disciple used a knife to cut someone,jesus quickly healed d wound&rebuked peter saying 'he that live by the sword will die by the sword' so hes a peace maker&not a jihadist like other prophets

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Most prophets of God fought jihad in their time,Toba if u are in doubt about this,go and trace the stories of some prophets and u'll know.At first,prophets start with no fighting despite persecution from unbelievers but if the persecution continues and they(unbelievers) are not allowing them again to worship God (through death threatening)then God will order Jihad.Toba and the rest of u,u may claim Jesus didn't fight against any unbeliever physically in his time but do you know that he passed some orders/teachings that are of jihad means?e.g when he said he has come to destroy all evils and the likes and the issue of sword?.Jesus is still coming back to fight Jihad,he will kill Dajjal(Anti christ),break all crosses indicating he ever died on calvary and will bring the world to peace.One of the reason why he is coming back is that he never died though christians don't believe,and God has judged that "every soul will taste death"hence his coming back.Judas was the one nailed under the image of Jesus but not Jesus instead he was ascended by God to save him from enemies.There are many reasons why he is coming though all being personal like the issue of him being God or son of God,all he is coming to clarify before the day of judgement so that u people(christians) will not implicate him on the day of judgement.

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The Christian what is wrong with U Must U abuse anything that is of Islam Please If U dnt have better Topics then keep Shut afterall ISLAM IS THE BEST RELIGION EVER AND FOREVER!!! Christians Is not too late A word is enough for the Wise. Fooools You ppl are the Barbaric, Dull-Drums* I LOVE ISLAM ONE LOVE

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Hmm, jesus a peacemaker? Can anyone remember the 'jihads' he ordered moses and joshua to fight. Sorry, he was not God at the time of joshua and moses. Just an helpless boy watching his Daddy order the massacre and molest of innocent children.

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@toba: his name is muhsin, a doer of good! mushin is an area of lagos, so get your mind out of mushin to muhsini for a moment. but then jesus in his peace making overturn tables of old people trading, exactly what the bankers of today do, most of them being chrsitians. jesus said he brought war and not peace, setting members of the same family against one another. asking people to buy sword, if they dont ave a bag which must contain just as lethal as sword.

oh, yes, Jesus was not a warlord and a jihadist, but only in theory and in the many parables; bring the people who will not let theking rule infront of the king and slain them!

great peace maker, same before hitler actually acted upon his own theory, before he initiated what finally became second world war!

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@mushin.What a question.If i havent read my bible, i wouldnt have brought out the facts about jesus who is a peace maker&not a war lord or a jihadist

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Have you really been reading your bibles very well?

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No its not.Im only comparing one with the other to show how clean and holy they are.Since jesus never fougth a war,neither did he tell christian to reitaliate any wrong against them but rather leave judgement to God, it shows Jesus is a Prince of PEACE and is far SUPERIOR to any other.

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so marriage is a sin or less, polution of self?

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Let me enlighten ur ignorance a little.In genesis 1,where God said let us create man in our own image.Who do u think he was refering to as our? Mohamed/angels? No imam.It the same jesus whom God did nothing without him.John1 u refered to was in action in gen1. D word was with God&it became flesh.D world rejected him in which some1 like u is part of.Jesus is more than mohamed who practised polygamy,but jesus never married or polluted himself with sins like ur leader did

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@Toba: « #62 on: Today at 06:42:32 PM »

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entire John 14, proves that without jesus u cant reach God.read verse 6.Also everything on earth were made by God through jesus colossians 1vs 15 -19. Also read philipians 2vs 5 -10.All these will prove to many people that jesus rules the world. Matt 28vs18-20. Thats y we celebrate christmas isaiah 9vs6. Doubters if u need more about jesus the prince of peace&not prince of war, i shall oblige u

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@Aloy.Emeka: « #60 on: Today at 06:48:42 PM »

[Quote] Christianity does not support war; it's Islam that declares war on innocent lives because of apostasy.[/quote]Though Jesus said he brought no peace but war? Though he asked that they purchased swords? This reminds me of Fela's "watin lawyer go take spanner do!" So Emeka what use is the sword from a man who said I brough war not peace? Continue to deceive your own conscience. About apostasy, Moses killed them, Jesus advocated for their death. Muhammad said they could be killed if they wage war against you, an obvious condition that even the meekest will react! Have you ever heard the adage "if you push goat to the corner, it will turn around to bite or even butt you?" Islam is like that in the matter of apostasy.

[Quote]Life, liberty, happiness, joy, salvation given unto us through the new covenant. That is why we break bread and drink wine in remembrance of Him.[/quote]Listen to this drunk, or is it drunkard and glutton (lol. am messing with you now). You did not remember his forebearers, because of the new covenants, yet you guys never stop using them falsely to proof him!

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Christianity does not support war; it's Islam that declares war on innocent lives because of apostasy.

Life, liberty, happiness, joy, salvation given unto us through the new covenant. That is why we break bread and drink wine in remembrance of Him. When Christ died, the veil in the temple got torn and mankind's hope was hanging in balance the whole 3 days He was yonder but Glory be to God He rose on the third day.

You can preach religion and all but that will never save you.

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Either somalia's act is based on sharia or not,im less concerned.What we are condemning from page1 is barbaric practises of religious aspect that encourages jungle justice purnishment for offenders simple

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When these would end,idnt know.Olabowale keeps defending abnormallies.D issue at hand happened in somalia this week&it received world condemnation from every quoata,even on facebook&nairaland.Now among those that critisized d islamic sharia practise includes christians,muslims&other religion.So man wait till a christian committs same nasty&barbaric act before join issues with christians.Now we are critisizing barbaric act of sharia.

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@Aloy.Emeka: « #54 on: Today at 03:15:57 PMt »

[Quote]Were they stoned to death for armed robbery? Even if they were, it's not a Christian practice and religion is expected to know better. You cannot draw analogy from what a nation did to others citing their religion rather, use what another religion did to others. Islam should be a place of refuge and not an abattoir for believers.[/quote]Religion is an ordered process including commandments, rules and laws in measure to guide people's lives. If Chistianity doe s not have any, tough, then you guys are just acting on impulses and mere emotions. Things like that are not from God the Creator!

About nation or religion to another not like them, King Emperor (President) Bush started his "resolve" of 911 by saying it is "CRUSADE"! I am sure you can navigate the maze from there! Roman legions, etc fight with the cross on their symbol. Jews fight with Star of David on them, though they call Prophet David an adulterous man (astaghafirullah). You Christians say the same thing, too.

[Quote]I really don't understand what you are portraying but calling Tiger Wood's wife a common nanny is just too cold. Is that how you treat people in Islam?. Christianity views everybody irrespective of your social status as the same because God mad us equal.[/quote]Emeka, if your are ashamed of truth as i continue to ask you of your opinion of your own lover and a man, just say so. Playing semantic is not going to work with me. I am not emotional, so since Christianity is perfect, Jesus called people Fools, Dogs, leaches, Vipers, etc, while you abuse Allah my Creator and your Creator, Prophet Muhammad (AS) the last of the link in the chain of Prophethood consisting of Adam, Anoch, Noah, Ibrahim, Lut, Ismail, Isiaq, Yaqub, Yusuf, Musa, Haruun, etc, etc and indeed Isa bin Maryam (AS Jami'a)! Emeka when you abuse or insult Muhammad (AS) you insult all those people and the Creator Who sent them! Now you understand me, since I know that you are as sharp as a tack, and not dumb as a dumbbell!

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I really don't understand what you are portraying but calling Tiger Wood's wife a common nanny is just too cold. Is that how you treat people in Islam?. Christianity views everybody irrespective of your social status as the same because God mad us equal.

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@Aloy.Emeka: « #52 on: Today at 06:33:03 AM »

[Quote]That is what I keep hearing from muslims but the reverse is always the case in practice. The difference is that they impose sharia on the land and not on muslims alone but in America, the government will not allow religious laws on the land to ensure that non Christians like you can live freely. Imposing sharia on the law makes it impossible for a native to choose another religion and still exist in his or her hometown without running the risk of losing his limbs.[/quote]Emeka, you seem to be so forgetful that I told you that America is not a christian country, to mean her organising or charter was not based on Christianity! America says "in God we strust", the rest (people, etc) is cash (you must pay). America worships "almighty Dollar!", so stop talking about the favor that non christians get in America! Look, Israel is a state on papers organised on the people and religion known as "Jews/Jew". Saudi Arabia is not even organised on Islam but on a tribe of people; the Quraishi, and some other bedouin under the house of Saud. You could say Pakistan is close to this because it severed herself from the majority Hindu, Sihk, etc. But those who know Pakistan well, you will find Christians and Hindu among them and they were not oppressed enough, because India's hindu is just across the border. I cant say that am oppressed in America, though majority Christians, but I do know there are things I cant do because I am a muslim. Most of the time, I have to get white people in sensitive and high stake situations. Thats just my islamic reality!

Sharia was not in play in Nigeria that Joseph Eyasimo, Nwobodo, Babatunde Folorunsho were killed in Lagos for armed robbery (in Islam it would not have cost them their lives) in 1970 or71. Oyenusi a year later! Muslim was not the head of the government, the darn disbeliever Gowon was. One of the big plunderer of Nigerian wealth, spending millions on wedding in the middle of the Civil War! that shameless hog!

[Quote]So you think the best way to handle Tiger Woods is by stoning him to death so his wife can have some closure?[/quote]I asked you about a man bellowing a woman you love you are talking about Tiger Woods and his wife! Okay maybe you can answer the supposition if the woman was cooperating with the bellowing bandit. But if she was saying help, Emeka, am not cooperating but he is forcing me? What will you do with the man, or what will you allow the community to do with him? I said my girl Ohsisi, the "most liberal woman on earth (lol I hope she does not believe that qualification) said that she will get the blood sister thrown out and keep her man, no wonder you did not answer but hounding on Tiger! Tiger Woods's wife, a common nanny (am not a classist, but the truth be told) was elevated to a millionaire woman, and a billionaire's wife, yet she is hopping mad of her husband's indiscreetions. I dont blame her, mind you but can you imagine if there is no law restricting her, rather her restricting herself from hurting him, not only his lips would have been bloodied, but even his brain, reaping his heart out without any mercy? What sharia at least put in place if you did not get it, is to stop the terrible actions of people like Tiger Woods who are married, yet all over the place, diminishing the value of institution of marriage, making his wife a laughing stock, etc and who knows what kinda disease that he might have spread, putting many lifes in danger! I hope you get it.

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That is what I keep hearing from muslims but the reverse is always the case in practice. The difference is that they impose sharia on the land and not on muslims alone but in America, the government will not allow religious laws on the land to ensure that non Christians like you can live freely. Imposing sharia on the law makes it impossible for a native to choose another religion and still exist in his or her hometown without running the risk of losing his limbs.

So you think the best way to handle Tiger Woods is by stoning him to death so his wife can have some closure?

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@Toba; « #50 on: Today at 10:56:56 PM »

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Must their always be a capital punishment for all big offences? As tiger committing adultery,now capital purnishment shd now be stoning,flogging/cutting his manhood as a deterent to others? No.All offences deserves purnishment,yet cutting d head is not d solution to headache.If God were to purnish all our daily gravious sins with gravious purnishment,then d entire world would have been wiped out.Therefore lets soften d hand of religious capital purnishment

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@Aloy.Emeka: « #47 on: Today at 07:12:31 PM »  

[Quote]Yes as long as you limit Christianity to only Christians and not Westerners. I believe Jude's case is still different from what we were discussing which is the barbaric acts seen in the Islamic sharia law and whether Mohammed endorsed them. [/quote]Emeka, let me ask you, if a man walked in with a fist of dollars and spend and spend and spend until he rides a woman you love, if you arrive at one of this ride, what will you do? You will not want his head on a platter, or you will just say, hey my frined you are a good rider carry on and come back anytime, even in the middle of the night when you are already in bed, even if you want to ride but his ride will be a first priority? My man, stop being unrealistic. I remember Ohsisi saying that if she ever were to see her blood sister making a hint of move on her man, the sister is gone. Which is closer; relationship by marriage or that by blood? Yet my girl was willing to throw the innocent girl who probably is very impressionable out, just for the man!

Well in my case, I know what to do; if a man rides my wife, I will be mad as can be, will wish then no good as I learn about it, but my wife will be not my wife from that second, and just only in her head. The point that am making is evil is evil and people reach to it differently. Allah allows the harshest punishment, under the protocol of Sharia. Yet some may even forgive. The most extreme through the ranges of wholesale forgiveness are permissable; as in murder.

Whats barbaric about Sharia that was valid then and its not valid now? Are humans not humans anymore? Do people dont use the bathrooms, anymore? The humans now have 2 heads? Is this time not the right time that the law of Sharia is very applicable, since you have bed hoppers of men and women? Look at Tiger Woods, with almost 11 or more women, whereby it is being reported that his wife is leaving him. Is that not enough humiliation in the heart of the woman that if there is no law against hurting Tiger more than she has done, by now we may be saying something else?

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@emeka.I support u.Any sin committed must receive penalty.D discourse here is about barbaric sharia law in this mordern era&jet age.D world have moved away from those ridiculous religious acts.We have facebook yahoo etc to mordernization&western development.eg nairaland.Lets reject ancient religious barbaric customs once& for all

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@olabowale.U shd be more intelligent than your last post suggests.D last paragraph is really off point.We started with barbaric punishment for sins&how a portion of religious law supports it.We are critisizing jungle justice murder.Y would u bring an issue of a christian leaving a shop? If he owed rent, let d law purnish him for his offence.What im against is being a killer in d name of religion.CNN SAYS MEET PEOPLE THAT KILLS IN GODS NAME.I dnt think God askd any1 to kill for him no matter d religion

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@Aloy~Emeka: « #41 on: Today at 08:02:21 AM »

Again, emeka, does Christianity have any value, quality, impact in the lives of Christians? And others dont have impact in the lives of their adherents? If a Christian is good because of Christianity, the ones who are bad must be that Christianity does not enter their hearts. No? Same is islam; the good muslims are good because of Islam, and the bad ones are because their hearts are hard to Islam, yet. Last night, a friend of mine called me about his computer problems, which he would resolve, today. I asked if he will take it to the Nigerian Christian I know. He shocked me that this nigerian "catholic" secretly in the dead of the night packed out of his store that he rented from the Egyptian Muslim, he owed many many months of store rents! Jude, the Nigerian in Brooklyn's Fulton Street and 2 houses from Bedford towards Franklyn Avenue.

Jude used to make millions, a good church goer, married to a young Nigerian woman. Now, how do you chalk this one for the terrible Nigerian Christian, and the Egyptian Muslim who lost so much? By the way, I just called the lawyer who was handling the issue. He happened to be a nigerian, like a son to me, Mustapha just confirmed it. I guess you have a good explanation, blaming the Egyptian muslim, and giving all possible excuses and leeways to explain away the situation of the Nigerian Christian. It will be better to blame Nigeria for his woes, a confirmed miillionaire, rather than the religion that could not affect his heart, pricking up his conscience!

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Let me handle davidylan befor I jump on Emeka. You guys are in for a shock:

@Davidylan: « #33 on: Yesterday at 07:24:33 PM »

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