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Can One Combine God's Calling With A Secular Job?

It right for one to combine the calling of God with secular job? As in is easy to please GOD and at the same time [maintain a normal job]?

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Lol. . MP007, he's not an . He could have given more pointers to what he meant, but don't be upset with him.

I'm fully persuaded that one who is specifically called to ministry can maintain a secular job as well - unless God impresses it upon the minister to give it up completely.

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this poster needs english developmental   class or english 1301. whats this all about? no thesis statement or issue, what an

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It depends on the specifics of your calling, if you believe that God has called you into fulltime ministry, then you have no business doing any other job.

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Yes you can but you must be able to give God some quality time.

Paul made tents to support himself, during his mission trips so he didn't have to bother the ppl he went to minister to.

Considering the meagre salary of pastors in Nigeria, i believe it is best to find a secular job that gives you enough time to pastor a church so that you would not be tempted to steal church money.

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@layi,

No, we have not deviated - I was thrown off the net a while back; and indeed I appreciate your labour and patience. As I read along it occured to me that certain lines were familiar because I had read them before - and when I got to the bottom of the page, I saw indeed that bible.org was one of them.

The problem is that those fellows at Bible.org are great scholars, but there are some things that they won't tell you because they would immediately dissolve most of the stuff they had written. So they take a convenient backpedal off the stage; for example:

This view that we don't know what is meant by such texts as Gen. 41:37-38 is taken by scholars who have a difficulty with John 7:39 - "for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified." The Bible does not teach that God never 'gave' the Spirit to anyone before Jesus was glorified; and Neh. 9:20 shows precisely He had done so in the OT before the First Advent of Jesus: "Thou gavest also thy good Spirit to instruct them." So, what was John 7:39 trying to tell us?

Read it in its context: Jesus connected the promise in vs. 38 to what the OT Scriptures had prophesied in symbolic language, particularly *Psa. 36:8-9 and Isa. 44:3-4 (see below). Consider that 'living water' is a picture of 'refreshing' which is signified by the power and freshness of the Spirit. Of course, some in the OT had experienced a foretaste of this, but John 7:39 says that the Spirit had not been given - in the context of being an on-going experience: this is what that verse means when it says that the Spirit had not been given - He had not been given in the context of what Jesus declared; not that He had never at anytime been given at all to anyone in the OT.

See the explanation below:

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*Here I've quoted in full the Psa. 36:8-9 and Isa. 44:3-4 ~~

# Psa. 36:8-9 - "They shall be abundantly satisfied with the fatness of thy house; and thou shalt make them drink of the river of thy pleasures. For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light."

The 'river of pleasures and fountain of life' point clearly to Jesus' bold declaration and invitaion in John 7:38 - "out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." The result of this flowing rivers of water is that "they shall be abundantly satisfied" as in Psa. 36:8.

# Isa. 44:3-4 - "For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring: And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses."

Notice that in this passage, "pouring out water" is figurative of "pouring out the Spirit" - the result of which is a "springing up". But it does mention that the condition is that they "thirst" - "him that is thirsty" . . . the very same thing the Lord Jesus alluded to in John 7:37 - " If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink." Now if they did so, the result will be vs. 38, as explained in vs. 39 - "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)"

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So, the point is that I agree with what you just said above in many things; but it does not appear to me that your earlier statements (which presumably Pastor Chris Oyakhilome taught in his book) are Biblically sound.

I believe that God can call anyone, whoever they are. If the person holds a questionable job, he/she would have to give that up. I should be more inclined to say that anointing for divine service does not make sense if someone is holding unto a questionable position.

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Do u hav an example of a pastor or any christain who is agressively annointed of GOD today and yet kills? It happened under the law true but not under grace.

The rod u talked about is called the mantle. Read Chris Oyakhilome's book on "The oil and the mantle". Those 2 items symbolises the annointing. They didnt have the infilling on the holy spirit but he was present in the oil and the mantle.

You can't compare the mantle wit a gun. the holy spirit cannot be symbolised wit a gun because a gun never does anything good.

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pastor and police/soldier?

I'll say Hell No. U don't carry the holy spirit and yet wield a gun.

Not in this dispensation. Maybe in the first to fourth, yes, but not in d dispensation of grace. D holy spirit will never rejoice at you killing a sinner.

GODs does call people to ministry but a lot call themselves.

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Whatever u say hunnie.

But wait, i'll still believe some of the things the bible says.

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@hotangel

Read on.U will gain more wisdom from me than reading the bible.Sometimes I think I am the One.

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@ 4 play -- u know i've been reading stuffs from u, and i must say, na wa for u oo.

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@hotangel

I ain't.I think God does not call anyone.I respect hookers more than pastors

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Being a pastor is not God's calling.

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Yes u can be a pastor and be a banker.

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There's no contradiction there - those called of God could hold normal secular jobs, although it's not easy to manage both.

Some are called to full-time ministry, in which case it's almost impossible to simultaneously handle the demands of a secular job and the service of a divine call, especially when such a person is called to an itinerant ministry.

It's unfortunate that today almost everyone who feels himself/herself called into service quickly wants to see themselves as full-time minister, and then handle the ministry like it was supposed to be a secular organization of sorts.

It's an honourable thing to please God in whatever aspect He calls you to serve. It will become evident whether or not His calling was to full-time ministry or otherwise.

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@topebolu

You mean, combining Pastorship/a spiritual calling with your professional career?

Yes of course.

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Sorry, you didn't leave enough intro to follow. What exactly do you mean?

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