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Can Prayers Change Nigeria?

As you all are aware this nation is going through a series of challenges in the areas of politics, law and order, health, education to name just a few. Due to the endemic nature of these challenges do you think seeking divine intervention to librate this nation from its current state of decadence is an option? If so let us share your comments.

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Worse still we pray and do the very things that are opposed to our prayers.

Imagine a pastor/i'mam who says he is praying for Nigeria's progress and greatness, yet blessing the 10th mansion of a PHCN official who has given him air tickets abroad severally, given the church/m'osque super size generators and owns many luxury vehicles that his remuneration as Director in 20years cannot buy.

Hypocrisy & self deceit of the highest level.

James 2:26

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

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Imhotep I couldn't have said it better

Bawomolo, I see your point and your are right.

It will take more than prayers, but also our actions.

Also keep in mind that there is a way to pray. We shoud ask for the right things not jsut ask God to change the situations. Rather we should ask God to use us to change the situation. We should ask God to use us as His instruments.

We can't ask God to change this situation and then sit there waiting for manna to fall from heaven.

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God our Father has blessed Nigeria with rich human and natural resources -- enough for EVERYBODY.

We are the ones that put Nigeria in this state by means of hypocrisy, corruption, laziness, indolence, anti-intellectualism and a generally lackadaisical attitude to things.

The solution lies in our hands. God should not be blamed for our own free (and wrong) choices.

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pls give examples of these results

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No,prayers will not make even a dent on our sorry situation.

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Can prayers change Nigeria? Yes.

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Your clain that there have been no results is not true.

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Yes ofcourse!, prayer can change Nigeria cos it has been the main thing that has kept Nigeria going. Nigeria would have been in crises or doomed if not for the prayers offered in this country to the Almighty God.

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That answer can only come from within; do you believe there is a God that answers prayers?

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For how long are we Gonna pray?

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Yes u quite right,with God all things are possible,l must tell u it depends from wich perspective you view things of Almighty God or your undertanding of d above saying.Heavens dont do what men got to for themselves.do u know that our politicians also pray?

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Yes, ofcourse, the bible make understand that with God all things are possible meanwhile the situation hasn't gone too far. Every bless day pray 4 Nigeria.

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Concentrate on the spiritual first?listen, u mean we v not concentrated enough? prophet Joshua raising d dead,the lame working by Pastor Chris? and others claiming messaih?sharia- lmams or sheiks that are busy amputating chicken robbers while our politicians are busy looting?l think is time we put down our spiritual ammunitions and pick-up d physical arms.manna fell from above that was in exodus.

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Thanks for the clarification.

However, I disagree with concentrating on the physical first. We need to concentrate on the spiritual and ensure that we are allowing the spiritual to be manifest in our daily lives. We have to change from inside out if we are to maintain the change

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I'm certainly not advocating that people shouldn't pray at all. I'm sure prayer has it's soothing and spiritual role in the lives of many people. What I'm saying is that as far national growth is concerned prayer shouldn't be the first port of call. Maybe we should concentrate on fixing the physical problems like light, water, shelter etc first and worry about spiritual matters later.

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'Silly way of looking at things'dudu-bobo .that is my point.nigerians are expecting heavenly bodies to come down and do what they got to do.yes prayers works, especialy in cases that are above humans.we should stop decieving ourselves,nigeria war if l may say is not heavenly that is why u see "binding and casting"In every corners in that country isnt working.CONT-MOBILE BROWSN

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You dont always need to pray to see results. The bible makes it clear that whatever a man is in the habit of sowing is what he'll be in the habit of reaping. If you do the right things for development, you'll reap development.

The fact that your praying doesn't stop you doing the right things is not to say that the person who wants to pray the right way and do the right things should not pray. What exactly is your point? Some people go to school and fail, does that mean no one should go to school?

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So how about if i don't pray and just do things that will aid my development? Obviously my praying doesn't stop me from acting in criminal ways so why bother?

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this is a rather silly way of looking at things.

Prayers work!!!

The Bible also makes a lot of things clear about prayers which is why sometimes, we think that prayers dont work or that our prayers are not being answered.

If I pray for God to heal me and I keep cutting myself with blades, how is that going to work? That's like the devil tempting God.

Nigerians are praying with their lips but it seems our hearts are far from God; this is why it looks like prayers dont work in Nigeria. The Nigerian man who prays and sweats in church on sunday is in the office collecting egunje the next day. The Nigerian who prays like heaven is falling on Sunday in Church will be breaking traffic rules on his way home from church. The Nigerian who prays very hard on sunday will be seen oppressing his neighbours throughout the week.

If I pray from now till kingdon come for something and I keep doing things that will prevent that thing to come, why should I expect to recieve it?

Please let's reason a little

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Those who claim prayers to be the answer should stop brushing their teeth and pray for heavenly angels to come down and do it instead. Sound's silly?

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Fight 4 ur right on earth

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Prayer ko prayer ni

Few statistics people look at the nations with the biggest economies in the world take Japan for example or even India how many christians are there eh.

When the front seats are given to the same people who loot and plunder abi una no hear the big thanksgiving wey Alamesigha do after his great return from the uk abi na native doctor be the pastor. Or na people like dem odili that are even knights abi obasanjo no get pastor abeg make una stop this prayer parade abeg.

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Abi oh, help me ask am.

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God don't answer sinners prayers.

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america is the only developed country which majority of it citizens believes in god and still prays, 80 percant of the people in finnland do not pray to any god or goddess yet finnand is heaven compared to that hell called nigeria.

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Arent' we all "sinners" ?

We have all sinned and come short of the glory of god.

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why not, prayer can even change the devil, ( at least thats our believe in nigeria). WE DONT NEED PRAYERS

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What kind of rubbish is this ? Church ? how can change be possible if you exclude muslims (who are a huge part of the population) ? With the sound of the likes of you, Nigeria will NEVER CHANGE. Let change remain in your dreams.

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@Tasma

Thats why I said, it is a PEOPLE PROBLEM., If everyone changes his or her mindset to think right! Nigeria will be better, and it has to start from the church.

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@ Africankel

I don't think anyone is talking about corruption being a government problem in Nigeria. The issue is the fact that in Nigeria the high level of "spirituality", church and mosque attendance, numerous night vigils seems to have done nothing to improve the quality of life in the country. In fact paradoxically the country is still one of the highest ranked worldwide in terms of corruption! How do you explain this? This is why I said I would even prefer a country full of right thinking, conscientious atheists to this disgrace of a system we run.

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Hello all ma people out there,

Prayers has its own part to play in changing this nation, no doubt.

A lot of us have been talking about the government and what they have done and not done, But we have to understand that CORRUPTION IN OUR COUNTRY IS NOT A GOVERNMENT PROBLEM, It is a PEOPLE PROBLEM. Untill the hearts of the people are turn towards the right, Nigeria will always be corrupt, The leaders that we have and have had in the past, did not come from some other country, but Nigeria.

We should stop focusing on the leaders and look at ourself, Even GOD, Cannot change a man, until the mindset of the man is changed!, Think Right and I bet you, you'll naturally do that which is right.

Don't wait for the next man to creat a change, You start!, And the Nigeria of our dream, would become a reality.

God Bless You

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Prayers might just serve to make Nigeria more slavish. Lets make Nigeria a better place. Lets build this country of ours on the principles of ABSOLUTE HONESTY, ABSOLUTE PURITY ,ABSOLUTE UNSELFISHNESS & ABSOLUTE LOVE.

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I think that what you will find will be extremely shocking. Religion in Nigeria, is a good area of study.

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Or there's the church where members were giving testimony and a woman got up to say that she had been ill and couldn't go to work and so didn't know where the next money was coming from. All she could do was pray. And lo and behold she received a visit from some of her work colleagues who brought her her 'share' of the money that they usually share at work. She hadn't expected that they would think of her and reserve her 'share' for her. Praise God!

This is not a matter of whether Christianity is a true or false religion. Or whether it works or not. This is a matter of Christianity Does Not Work in Nigeria. At least not for most of the people. Huxley started a thread a while back asking whether 300 years ago the first africans to come into contact with european christianity would understand the concepts such as virgin birth etc. I say why go back 300 years. How many africans get christianity today?

If a christian can stand up in church and testify and praise God for getting Egunje, and there were pastors present in that church (my mom actually had a word with the pastor about it but he just shrugged), can you really say that she gets christianity. How many nigerians worship a God of Egunje?

It is for this reason that I've abandoned the term christianity. My God is not a God of Egunje and I do not want to be classed with those that worship a god of egunje.

I would love to do a survey to ascertain what most nigerian consider of God and the manner in which he relates to us and our respective roles in Life.

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@ Tasma nice one.

Armed robbers too pray during robbery. In fact, the xtian religion has been cheapened beyond measures.

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Prayers change things.

Prayers can save Nigeria BUT we do need to do the right things as well. We can be destroying Nigeria and telling Gpd to help us build it everytime. We will reap what we sow and we seem to be sowing seeds of corruption and maladministration on a daily basis; do we expect to reap a good economy based on that?

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ps. These gods of egunje can and do answer prayers. so prayers do work, and they can change nigeria.

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@ madamkoko

A little story you might enjoy. The other day i had to visit our "friendly" neighbourhood police to "bail" out a neighbor that had been arrested for

"wandering" outside his house. Sorry about the repeated use of the quote marks " ", just helps convey the message of the story. At the police station I had to wait for over an hour because the DPO was holding a morning prayer session with everybody in the station for over an hour! Finally I get to see the DPO and he warns me about the threat of miscreants in the neighbourhood skillfully avoiding the fact that the neighbour had offered to pick his bank ID card from his flat when he was being arrested.

The neighbour was finally released after i contributed "willingly" towards breakfast money for the "boys".

I don't even know where to begin, first is the fact that about two hours of tax payers money was spent by our boys in black in a prayer session while at work! Secondly the fact that this same people would be on the street 10 mins later demanding 200 bucks from any road user seems not to be a problem with our "holy ghost filled" cops.

This story is not to talk about corruption in the police force, the corruption exists in almost every institution in Nigeria. The point is how we so

efficiently separate our spiritual activities from our day to day life. Thousands are in Church speaking in tongues on Sunday,and back at work pocketing their own share of misappropriated funds on Monday. Shameful!

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Here's an idea, why don't we Nigerians just try doing the right thing because it is right and not because we are "religious or spiritual" people. Hell, an atheist civil servant in the US or UK probably behaves ten times better than our church or mosque going civil servants here. So what exactly is the advantage of our high level of "spirituality". I for one would rather be a country full of decent atheists than one full of so called religious citizens.

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Prayers for Nigeria, doesn't go past the ceiling.

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SOLUTION?

Kill our bad leaders

Phemour

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Joseph was the head political administrator in Egypt appointed by God for his purposes not Josephs, in the context of today he would be the Prime minister. Shedrack, Mishack & Abnego became the wisest men in the land, Daniel was a political administrator, all of them fulfilling Gods purpose in total obedience without question even if it would mean death.

Abraham a business magnate, Isaac an inheritor of wealth from God even in the valley

The essential defining feature amongst these recorded men of God, total obedience to the denial of the self for the purposes of God. You can add these sons of God Deborah & Esther as well.

You are not of this world but you are of the kingdom of God, manifest the kingdom of God and all its righteousness, soldiers of Christ.

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liftedone,

sorry if i took you out of context. i was writing based on my understanding of what you wrote that seems to suggest Christians should steer clear of communal/societal issues & governance based on righteousness & christian morals BUT focus on prayers only.

thanks for your clarification.

meanwhile, please note that i have no axe to grind with a fellow Xtian on a discussion in which we both participated in a very mature manner and i am sure enlightened each other.

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@anonimi: 2Timothy 2:4(AMP): "No soldier when in service gets entangled in the enterprises of civilian life; his aim is to satisfy and please the one who enlisted him". My context is we are in the world but we are not of the world.

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You have completely taken me out of context, sweetheart. Maybe you need to understand the spirit of what I was saying more than the letter of it. I was not referring to civilian matters in the context that you've taken it here. Do you have an axe to grind with me regarding the whole tithe and offering issue? I don't think we should bring disagreements from other threads to a new thread. I choose to agree to disagree with any Christian who does not have the same opinion with me on any matter because my race is mine and theirs is theirs. Please let us have the right attitudes.

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what do you think of Matthew 22: 15-22, particularly verse 21 concerning paying taxes to Caesar? Do you think it applies only to paying taxes to government or rather goes beyond to include obligations to government as citizens? The story is also in Mark 12, Luke 20 to emphasise the important lesson therein.

you can also read the Epistles, which contain several references of recommended Christian attitudes to societal issues and governance.

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Liftdone,

I agree with you, prayer first and prayer results in acts of faith, God is not calling us to be successful in the worldly scheme of things he's calling us to be faithfull in all things righteous, civilian, political, socail, legal, financial, etc, etc.

Silence is and remains consent, let us not be deceived.

The fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom, the love of God is obedience to his word.

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