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Do Muslims And 'christians' On This Forum Contribute To Atheist Cause?

It is my opinion that Atheist don't have to say diddly squat on this forum to forward their case.  All they've got to do is sit back and watch the Muslims and 'Christians' put people irredeemably off religion. 

I personally have not seen such a concentration of nonsensicalities openly touted in one place in my entire life.

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Because I do not think the word christian is a word of fixed definition any longer.  Many people call themselves christians hence the quotation marks, however that does not clearly tell you anything about what they believe or what they practice.

It is probable that the same could be true of Muslims however I am in no position to have such a critical opinion of muslims.

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Hi there!

Am curious at a glance of the thread's title. Am sorry to go off topic. . .please pardon me.

But Pastor, why did you put the word Christians in a quote? Thanks for your answer.

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I particularly like it when Christian tithers and non-tithers get into a fight. Brilliant. But in the past there have been many others:

Calvinist

Methodist

Lutherans

Anglicans

Catholics

Arians

etc, etc, etc.

These fights make for really juicy spectacle.

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I have discussed it elsewhere, so I shall only summarise it here. There are many varieties of the theist state of mind:

1) The very well educated, scientifically literate and minded and philosophical Christians who can appreciate both sides of the arguments. But is committed to theism for a number of reasons:

a) Cultural

b) Fear

etc, etc

These are the compartmentalised theists - whose minds and divided into two separate compartments; a theist side to house their superstitions and a rational, logical and scientific side for everything non-religious.

Examples of such are: Kenneth Miller, Francis Collins, Simon Conway Morris, many many other christian scientist, including our very own Pastor AIO.

2) There are the well educated but dishonest and disingenious types like Lee Strobel, William lane Craig, Pilgrim, Davidylan, etc.

3) There are the partially educated, dishonest, lazy and ignorant types like Neotic, and his ilks

4) There are the simpletons and deluded and ignorant

5) And there are the plain, bone-skulled ignorant of whom the majority of evangelical Christian make a big part.

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Are you suggesting that the word of God can be illogical and misguided? (and I am not just talking about christians but the mohammedans too.)

I'm not bothered about other people thinking that Christians are logical or not. I'm bothered about 'christians' being rude, illogical and outright nasty.

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  You make a good point but don't you think you're throwing all the christians in the same sorry boat? There are brilliant, articulate posts from christians in this section, its just unfortunate the others overshadow them.

  And permit me to also add this. Isaiah 55 says:

    so is my word that goes out from my mouth:

       It will not return to me empty,

       but will accomplish what I desire

       and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

Whether or not the 'voice of God' is coming thru one of our resident well educated christians or from the lowest who didn't graduate middle school and can't put together an intelligent argument, or even from the misguided and often illogical christian - it is still the word of God, and will accomplish the purpose for which it was spoken. I do not excuse the poor behavior of us christians sometimes at all, the riffraffs and scrubs will always be among us, and even they serve a purpose in God's great design.

  and I wouldn't concern myself so much with whether an atheist thinks christians are illogical or not - oftentimes regardless of what you say their mind is already made up. Put forth your truth and leave them to accept it or not. Christianity does not need validation or affirmation from anyone that it is sound and has 'logical' followers.

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It has never been my objective to convert anybody here to anything. I don't do conversions, God does. If he uses me for it in any capacity then so be it.

Here, Atheists do not need to make a mockery of religion because the so called adherents of the various religions are doing a very good job of making a mockery of themselves.

I argued tirelessly against Huxley that being religious does not mean lacking logical faculties. I argued and argued only to see the religious members of this forum demonstrate his case over and over again. How embarassing!!

The point is not whether atheists can agree with each other, or whether religious people can agree with each other. The point is whether people can articulate their arguments intelligently, and debate with civility.

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As an atheist I come to nairaland(which happens to be the biggest Nigerian forum on the internet) to let Nigerian theist know that it is perfectly normal to be an atheist since the theist have continued to show that the do not even know what they are doing or what the really believe in. Nigerian theist have some kind of special fear and hate for atheist even though almost all of them keep demonstrating and showing how confused they all are. I only show Nigerian theist that they have no arguments at all and that it is perfectly normal to be an atheist so they should drop all their unnecessary fear and hate of atheist.

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Why do the atheists bother? It's all been done for them already.

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It's not just the Muslims vs Christians. You can have a look at the various christian vs christian threads(protestant vs catholic), My pastor vs your pastor, I alone have a better understanding of what the bible is saying while all others do not. My church or denomination is the only true church or denomination while all other ones are false. Jesus is god while mohammed is a sham. Mohammed is the only true prophet of Allah while jesus of the bible is a fraud. The game continues.

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True talk, why should they argue with what they don't believe, when they want to attack christian they use the Qura n explicity and when they want to attack islam they use bible back off. Ever fool are they

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This Abuzola is a slowpoke. He doesn't even understand the thread and he's so eager to jump in an spill crap. What a pity!

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