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Do You Believe In Angels?

According to the bible and the koran, angels are a very important part of the story of god's interaction with humans. 

Out of curiosity i did a little research and found this list of angels heirarchy in heaven.

    * First Sphere (Old Testament sources)

          o Seraphim

          o Cherubim

          o Thrones (Gr. thronos) (New Testament sources)

    * Second Sphere (New Testament sources)

          o Dominions (Gr. Kyriotetes)

          o Virtues (Gr. Dynamais)

          o Powers (Gr. Exusiai)

    * Third Sphere

          o Principalities (Gr. Archai)

          o Archangels - Archangeloi

          o Angels - Angeloi

Angels of the first sphere work as heavenly guardians of God's throne.

Angels of the Second Sphere work as heavenly governors.

Angels of the third sphere function as heavenly messengers and soldiers.

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According to the story the devil was an angel that was sent to earth by god before he created adam and eve. Is this correct?

What puzzles me is when exactly these angels were created in the six days of creation?

If you are a christian or muslim do you believe in the existance of all of these supernatural beings? And what is the difference between the belief in angels and the belief in polytheism?

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Angels and demons are all in us humans ok every one has it ok all these una long talk sef tire person and whether u type JEHOVAH name small g. or big G means notin after all itz the white man that put our traditional belief GOD small g, and put his capital G why ask ur self telling us jesus was white while he was an essene jew whose clan trace back to ETHIOPIA

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@ndipe, am seriously feeling you, however u have not clarified the time Angels were created so for the benefit of others, lets go back to Genesis

1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (full stop)

1:2 And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God upon the face of the waters.

This Scripture shows that God was before the beginning(that needs to be established), at the point of beginning, the first things he created were heaven and earth, not Angels!!!!

In between verse 1 and verse 2, is a lot of time in which Angels were created and and Lucifer revolted and was cast down to earth (which i personally believe was the cause of the 'formlessness' of the earth since i know God wouldn't creat an ugly, formless earth)

I think every other matter has been cleared by Ndipe.

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Maybe angels are like fairies, such as peter pans's tinkerbell, They only exists as long as you believe in them?

When you stop believing in them, they cease to exist.

The brain is the most complex machine known to man and is constantly making sense of the world around us by making things which are not real in our subconscious mind, match things that are real in the real world. The most obvious of these phenomenon are optical illusions (seeing things) and audible illusions (hearing voices). Maybe your brain is also capable of convincing your mind that something which is totally irrational, illogical and contradicts all the facts that you know about the real world is true. You are 100% convinced that fairies angels are real even though if you just thought about it rationally you would know that they are not.

For example; look at what happened to Zeus. People stopped believing in him and he just ceased to exist.

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The End of Faith by Sam Harris

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Without being garrulous,

AngelS exist and will always!

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As long as anybody admits what he [b]believe[/b]s is just a [b]believe [/b]I don't have issues there. But when a person claims that his own believe is the truth then he must understand that thinking men like us will demand rational confirmation.

So,those of you who believe in angels are you admitting that it is a believe or are you saying it is true?

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@ jediknight: Science has answered a lot more questions than the Bible and Q'uran has in over a thousand years of their existence , stop deluding yourself and as my area guys would say , fun ra ni brain - give yourself brain.

Mark 9 , 1 - And he ( Jesus ) said unto them , '' Verily I say unto you , That there be some of you that stand here , which shall not taste of death , till they have seen the Kingdom of God come with power ''.

Please can a reasonable and logical thinking person explain why the Kingdom of God has not come with power yet.

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What a load of hogwash , where in the world has anyone come a across a non existent being. I'd sooner believe in E.T than in angels , god or God , satan/devil/lucifer or whatever the Bleep you call all of 'em and you guys.

As for ma handle , it is a '' revelation '' to the real truth , the Bible and Q'uran are great works of fiction and probably the highest selling story books

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As a muslim is part of my believe to believe in Angel, please let us also respect others opinion, those that did not believe or are still in thought let them prove it,Some has done a lot of research on this issue but come out with diff. result, so may God help us.

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This is very interesting and fascinating. It seems like some people will believe in absolutely anything. Angels, demons, dragons, witches, mermaids, talking donkeys and snakes, etc. etc. Especially if it is written. If it was written then it must be true.

I know that people who believe in these things are not dumb and use their intelligence and powers of rational thinking and critical reasoning in all other aspects of their lives.

Why is it then, that when it comes to religion the brain becomes disengaged and just accepts things which are totally irrational and impossible?

Are religious people genetically wired that way and atheists not? Is it in our genes?

They say that 'curiosity killed the cat' and in a hostile environment that is what was most likely to happen. Therefore the most superstitious, who didnt question so called 'supernatural' occurances were most likely to survive and reproduce. When it comes to christianity, not so long ago if anyone was to question any of the stories in the bible, no matter how illogical, you would be branded a heretic and put to death. Even if you just think a story in the bible seems ridiculous, is that thought blasphemous or is it your brain using its natural intelligence and instinct to ask questions?

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Anyone who says he's seen an angel should as a matter of concern have his head examined.

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Anyone who says he's seen an angel should as a matter of concern have his head examined.

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Angels do exist, they are all around us. we all have guardian each and everyone of us. Angels exist. aint there at least someone here whos seen an angel?

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I definately believe in angels because i believe in God, it only makes sense.

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I so much believe in Angels

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What of Dragons? Do you believers in angels believe in fire breathing, flying serpents with wings. Because stories of Dragons are common place in the east, it is also very popular in the west (Europe), the Bible even mentions them.

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Proof that Jesus Christ is not ArchAngel Michael

Jude 1:9 (NIV) 9But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

2 Pet 2:11 (NIV) 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.

Michael an angel, did the work of angels as outlined in 2 Peter, as he did not bring a slanderous accusation against the devil.

Jude does not identify the archangel Michael, as Christ.

http://www.truthorfables.com/Is_Michael_Christ.htm

Michael did not rebuke satan, but rather, said "The Lord rebuke you." If he was Christ, he would have rebuked the devil himself. Afterall, Jesus Christ in the New Testament rebuked the devil and his demons

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yes, i believe in angel

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The bible is a reflection of those things God want us to know as humans, anything above that i wont be a party to it. The bible made mention of the word 'angel' in many books of the bible that makes it to be true because the word of God is true. Examples of angels encounter with men in the bible are; hagar was found by an angel in the wilderness (Genesis 16:7), joseph the father of Jesus was visited by an angel(matthew 1:20), Lot housed an angels (Genesis 19:1) and many more visitation by an angel to man. If you believe in God you must believe that there are Angels, if otherwise you are an Atheist and i have nothing to tell you now, may be later,

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It is quite sad to see people argue on this subject matter. What is faith in the first place? Faith is meanless if we couldnt believe in what we did not see or know everything about. God and Angels belong to the category of things we have to believe unconditionly without any daught as christians, It is not compulsory to be a christian as we all have freewill, only the end will judge. let us let it be and stop acting like thomas.(john 20:27-29)

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It is quite sad to see people argue on this subject matter. What is faith in the first place? Faith is meanless if we couldnt believe in what we did not see or know everything about. God and Angels belong to the category of things we have to believe unconditionly without any daught as christians, It is not compulsory to be a christian as we all have freewill, only the end will judge. let us let it be and stop acting like thomas.(john 20:27-29)

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It is quite sad to see people argue on this subject matter. What is faith in the first place? Faith is meanless if we couldnt believe in what we did not see or know everything about. God and Angels belong to the category of things we have to believe unconditionly without any daught as christians, It is not compulsory to be a christian as we all have freewill, only the end will judge. let us let it be and stop acting like thomas.(john 20:27-29)

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Now: That which is originally female remains what it is irrespective of what you a mere motal might think or believe.

What you need do is sit back and live the short life you have to the fullest as there is no other after this.

Anything else is just a sad waste of time.

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Guys,

you see, the topic says Do you believe in angels?

For those that believe, it's just a believe. Nothing more except if you can demonstrate it to us that angels are factual. So, why crucify people that refuse to believe in your BS?

Its the 21st century and mere believes don't run the show no more. We need hard facts most of the times.

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Tudor remove the " f " from ya profile will you? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Its annoying me.

Now: That which is transendentally supreme remains what it is: irrespective of religion - and irrespective of what you, a tiny mere mortal, may think or believe. What you need to do is to stand in awe and appreciation at the wonder of creation.

Anything less is callous ingratitude.

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Claiming not to be affiliated with any religion but stealing ideas from the same religions then turning around to call the believers dogmatic and psychotic when you're as dogmatic and psychotic as can be.

You conviniently use this as a fail safe measure. When the silliness of your beliefs are exposed you run claiming not to be religious and just exploring the myth then come around next week with another dogmatic idea of god poached from another faith.

You only deceive yourself my guy.

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I hope you wont regret it sha

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Laughing so hard, i can't believe there are so many confused people here. In my 100 level days as a law student i studied philosophy but i found out that the whole exercise was specifically designed for confusionist. Have you not heard that SOMETIMES IGNORANCE IS BLISS. There are somethings that should be left alone and the question posed here by some incredulous elements is just one of it.

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YEP, ITS EASY TO SEE YOU ARE SO BOXED IN THAT A MAN WHO BELIEVES IN GOD BUT REJECTS RELIGION IS UNFATHOMABLE TO YOU.

I AINT CHOOSING NUTHIN. LIVE WITH IT.

p.s: ok, the joke has gone far enough, you can remove the "f" in your profile, we all know you are a guy, not a babe!

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I have an angel check it out ,

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Michael is an Archangel, but not Jesus Christ. That Biblical Verse that you cited as 'proof' that Michael is Jesus Christ only says "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel . . ."

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I believe in the Bible, it's God's word - the creator's manual, it only makes sense that I'd believe in angels.

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Believing in God doesn't mean one must believe in angels. 

how do you know there is only ONE god?

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I believe in ONE TRUE GOD the creator of all things including the angels you are so interested in

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I think it is natural and healthy to ask questions and gain knowledge about lifes big questions. To seperate facts from myths and understand where those superstitions, myths, and religions that people hold so dear and are prepared to die and kill for originated. Which God are you asking if i believe in? Is it the God of the koran, or the bible (of which there are over 33000 denominations), or one of the Hindu Gods, or the deist God, Or maybe one of the alien Gods from planet x or Nibiru or Rizq? What about our own African Gods? Do you still believe in them like our ancestors did?

If you are too afraid to ask questions about your beliefs, how will you know if you are following the right one?.

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@poster, Do you believe in God??

The existence of angels is for one purpose to serve God's children. I don't think we should delve into mysticism to ask, what is the hierarchy of angels, and so on.

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Knowing God and his purpose for creating man is the bone of contention and not the knowledge of angel. Let us not be deceive cos during the last days many religion,teaching, knowledge that are against God's principle shall arise/abound.

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Knowing God and his purpose for creating man is the born of contention and not the knowledge of angel. Let us not be deceive cos during the last days many religion,teaching, knowledge that are against God's principle shall arise/abound.

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The greatest problem man has is the problem of knowledge(want to know all) as it was the case during the time of kingdom of babel where man tried to go to God uninvited. God changed men tongue to distabilise there agency. Let us seek God's face cos the bible says seek ye first the kingdom of God and its righteousness then every other thing shall be added unto you.

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@Tudor: Haba, why u dey antagonize the man! We, each one, all have our take, or the lack thereof, on RELIGION!

@DeepSight: I get what you mean about the perfection of divinity and how man cannot attain it. Very well understood. Seeing your take, do you think it is possible for man to ever understand that perfect will of divinity for himself/herself in order to attempt to live by it, since divinity is entirely perfect and man is entirely hopeless with regards to correctness or perfection i.e. Holiness? If so, how can that be done? If not, why acknowledge divinity since the spheres of interaction of mankind and divinity will never be concentric except by random chance?

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^^

You now claim the lucifer story about war in heaven is a myth but moments ago you were blabbing using the SAME story as basis for your crap theory about "proximity with summit of all thought".

Several times on this forum this guy has claimed the garden of eden did exist now he's here ranting Adam and eve were jewish myths.

You are a confused fake. Pick a religion and stick to it, stop boring us on NL with your psychobabbles.

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^^^ Maven, the Lucifer story about war in heaven and rebellion against God is probably a myth. Even if it's true, which i strongly doubt, it is no concern of any human being. The Adam and Eve story could be a tribal myth of the Jews as well.

What i have tried to set forth is a possible explanation for how or why a being may divert from the pure will of divinity.

Pure Divinity is not something that can be captured within the material realm. For this reason beings living in the material realm are not perfectly attuned to divinity. That's why we are imperfect: and that is why we are capable of change.

Note that change is synonymous with freewill in this respect: a divine being is perfect, and perfection cannot change: that is the absence of freewill in a certain sense.

I hope you are able to draw a parallel between the idea of perfection and immutability.

Because immutability is what suggests to me that a being in the Divine Sphere cannot change, is eternal in all its components, and thus cannot be posessed of freewill in the sense we use the word.

Again a reflection on intangible self-existence should accentuate this point.

I hope this crystalizes what i am trying to communicate.

I am sure you can assess it unlike some clowns who may imagine that omnipresence means that God lives in their boxer shorts.

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I believe in angels, actually had more than two contact with them both in real time and dream but seekin to understand them is like seekin to understand the existence of God which is an un achievable feat, for this reason i'll not comment any further.

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It don't need to type a million words to show the rubbish in your post.

Re-defining the meaning of ominipresent to suit your view is just sick.

Nairaland is not a place where you expect to find ready folks to discuss your fantasies bring us somthing much more sensible please.

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i believe  in  good and bad angels they were both created by god.

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I BELIEVE IN GOOD AND BAD ANGELS THEY WERE BOTH CREATED BY GOD.[/tt][tt]

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Crap!  Our God is Supreme Almighty God and he sees every thing.  Nothing could be too far away from his watchful eyes so, distance has no impact on his abilities as testified in Jeremiah Chpt. 16 v. 17-18.

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in early Judaism, Satan was in the inner council of God, he was not against God, since, God is the too supreme to have a rival. it was suddenly in NT, that the Devil was portrayed as an adversary to God. Religion is never inflexible.

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What God want from us humans is specifically written in (mark 16:15) and not to write about angels and their levels, its nonsense and a waste of time.

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