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Does Anybody Believe That Human Corpse Can Turn To Money?

You are thinking that I have been watching too much Nollywood… well, there is some Nollywood connection to this. I do not watch movies much, Nollywood or Hollywood, but someone just narrated the story of one starring a popular comedian.

In the movie, we heard, a group of friends see that one of them is entirely no use to the world and decide to salvage something out of the human mess by turning him into cash. Salivating on the pretty damsels that will be fighting themselves to be seen by their sides as they paint the town red in hummer jeeps, they parcel him up and deliver him to the witch doctor who has the devil’s cauldron waiting. But the ancient man takes a look at the wastrel and warns them that if they kill the man, money will come out but it will be counterfeit money! The guy’s tethers are promptly cut, and as he goes home, he can’t stop asking God how his person managed to come to such a waste that he cannot even produce good money like everyone else killed for ritual.

By now everyone listening to the story was bursting their side with laughter. But it took my mind back to a story in a magazine titled “1000 Naira Notes, Ritualists Go Wild”. Since we know people believe these rituals and have been performing them, is it possible that they are all “deluded”? Or can we assume you can mint money by stewing human parts in some arcane cauldron in this malevolent variant of Satanism? If so, how good are such currency notes vomited by these dead or dying bodies? How do they manage about such details as serial numbers and other CBN details?

Anyone here can throw light into this matter?

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hmm, wondering why the title of the post above me doesnt match the topic.

anyway, moving on.

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when people are "used for rituals", are they actually enslaved or trafficked somewhere because i dont really see why there'd be such a wholesale slaughter outside of a war situation.

besides, disposing of a large number of bodies isnt that easy.

the other explanation of course includes abnormal habits.

people need Jesus for sure.

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Its only in developing countries that people believe u can use juju to turn a dead body into money. It's possible to turn dead body into money is if they sell the body to medical science.

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i now see without doubt that civilization has eaten deep into most of you, infact, you could as well say satan does not exist or rather say there is no spiritual forces which controls the whole universe,  take it or leave it, money ritual is very very real, if you are'nt blind you would realise that spiritual forces governs d physical. go 4 more research and u'll come 2 this point of conclusion. science itself is still developing (discorveries)

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^^^ I understand your desire and sincerely, I did ask him at the time to take me to the "baba" who he said was somewhere in badagry. Its a very detailed long story and was really interesting.

The one I'd like to see proved or disproved is this special room cruise. Maybe one day, a chance will come for such

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^^^ I would give an arm to have a firsthand experience like this! The other day while we were watching a Nollywood movie that featured this sort of thing on AIT, I told a friend I would like to have a one-on-one chat with a cultist of this sort. He opined that nobody would tell me the truth except one who had “come out”. But the problem I find with those is you can never trust their story. Emmanuel Eni has since been denounced as a fraud.  Then I read a book by one Iyke Nathan Uzoma, but the book's authenticity was heavily tainted by its unbriddled promotion of Benson Idahosa and some other "men of God". And the other day in Uganda someone told a British reporter that as a witch doctor he had personally sacrificed 70 people in rituals. Police investigations revealed he made it all up to gain some attention! I guess some people’s lives are too humdrum.

So seeing it personally as you did above would be wonderful! Note that the flesh to cash conversion theory is not mutually exclusive of the above or any other form of ritual. The way these stories have been peddled since forever, there are different kinds of rituals and many have been portrayed in Nollywood movies. The corpse to cash is just one of them. That is, the "big man" is said to have a secret chamber where no one else is allowed to enter. Whenever he needs cash he goes in there and calls the victim's name or chants some incantation and crisp notes start popping out. One movie I saw this, over 10 years ago, I think, is Blood Money.

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^^^ Hey Goog!

Those notes have serial numbers. NSPMC cannot deliver notes with missing numbers to CBN. Neither can CBN dispense funds without accounting for every note they receive from NSPMC.

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That'll be fantastic; but the smell may ruin all the fun.

What we know for a certainty is that a live human body could ooze lots of cash; there's evidence in many bank accounts. . .

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^^^ And where does the spirit get the money from? CBN coffers or it prints them?

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the dead body itself doesnt turn to money but the spirit can be invoked to appease demons who will bring the money to whoever has done the invoking

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There are educated illiterates and a lot of the people that engage in these act of sacrificing people to "evil spirits" are not people that I will consider to be educated at all. Education does not mean having a university degree.

Of course the leadership of the parish will have to believe it. Most Churches believe in these kinds of stories. The last time I checked most of the followers of pastor Adeboye believed that he drove a car on empty tank for over 200km. The guy doesn't have to deny it. I know of people that were accused of witchcraft back when I was in Nigeria but did not deny the allegations. They did not deny it because nothing they said mattered to those that were accusing them. Denying the allegations might even prolong the case, sometimes its better to let things die off on their own when you know that they are baseless. The man must have had his reasons for not denying it.

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He knows magic very well and is better positioned to dismiss it than others, having being a great magician for over 30 years, He knows all the tricks involved.

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Highlighted position is tendentious and not borne out by the facts.

The vast majority of those who engage in rituals and not poor and uneducated. They are usually from the middle and upper classes. Once a reverend gentleman I knew of was accused of making money ritual with his son. He subsequently lost his position in the church. From this we can assume that (1) The leadership of that parish of the church believed it. (2) He did not deny it. There are other possibilities, of course, but on the surface of it, it does look like a confirmed case.

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@toneyb: Heard of the two of them but I think Randi's beliefs are extreme i.e. the extent to which he rapidly dismisses stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi and http://www.randi.org/

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@lagerwhenindoubt: LOL @your name first of all. Then LOL at the story! Optical illusions, my guy. You probably didn't actually feel what you think you felt. What you saw made you think you also felt the money. Many aspects of magic are made up of pure but complex illusion. I guess you can read jagunlabi's post above for more on that.

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a human corpse (or any other species for that matter) turns to dirt (stone in rare cases) nothing more

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I completely agree, Such myths and urban legends are bandied only in places were the people are ignorant, uneducated or unenlightened. There are so many reasons why people bandy such urban legends as you have said.

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Hi Toneyb,

You hear it not only in Nigeria but in every other place where physical claims or rather scientific claims are made without providing even an iorta of scientific evidence. Claims are cheap but scientific evidence do require much more. Once the average man start to ask for evidence, then these stories will disappear. I would have offered the secret behind some of these tricks as I have encountered the claimants on several occations but I guess I will keep quite. If people honestly believe such things, then the only thing that will convince them is when they have lost all their money and possesion as they seek to patronise those who claim to spin money from corpses. Best Wishes.

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Why do we hear of these things only in places like Nigeria?

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Hi Deepsight. If this is the true meaning of omipotence, then what happens when a being with the investiture of 10th dimention comes to any of the lower dimentions? Maybe such a being will magically change 2nd dimention to 10th dimension. Any body with a deep knowlege of how the universe works will sooner or later come to the realization that certain things are impossible. In the world of imagination which is a sham world, everything is possible and impossible. I challenge anybody anywhere to demonstrate in real life that human corpses can generate currencies or that a stone can turn to bread. Stay blessed!

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Jagunlabi I insist -

Might i ask if you think that it is possible that YOU jagunlabi -

 1. Are the First Cause and Prime Mover of all existence - namely that you are GOD himself - YOU exclusively: and no one else?

 2. Are in fact the master-mind of 9/11

 3. Are an ant; dwelling in an ant-hill in Kathmandu: and your entire existence and writing on this Forum are the imaginations and fantasies of the Ant.

I postively assert that a non-circumscribed reality which you posit is incapable of existence as it destroys every signal vestige of meaning required for finite existence.

Only a being which is the investiture of the 10th Dimension outside all space and time can exist in such a condition.

That is instructive on the true meaning of omnipotence.

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That is how i see things.

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The goat you slaughtered,yaradua and beyonce, are all just fleeting forms of illusion in a world of illusion.

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From the ancient Canaanites with their malevolent variants of Baal to the Aztecs who held the hearts of their enemies to the sun while it was still beating, from the muti killings in South Africa to the goodluck charm killings in Utter Pradesh, there are different forms of human sacrifices for different reasons. Selling of human parts and getting paid happens around here. But there is this particular variant where the dead body is said to vomit crisp notes. Clearly, that is the kind behind that magazine headline mentioned in op. That is, if the CBN releases, say, N5000 note today, the practitioners of this opaque craft will quickly get the specimen of the note, then procure humans and get cracking, so that N5000 notes will be generated. And that is kind I am interested in in this thread.

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^^^ Otherwise, given your computer-simulated idea of reality then all semblance of meaning immediately and irretrievably collapses into absolute meaninglessness.

If you will reflect; you may recognise that a reality that actuates every conceivable logical or illogical possibility is diametrically opposed to the existence of a reality in which any form of meaningfulness may exist; much less harbour intelligent beings.

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^^^Do you realize that given the infinity of possible information, you will NEVER arrive at a point, no matter how advanced you are; where you can categorically state anything to be impossible.

Including the possibility that the goat i slaughtered yesterday was actually ALMIGHTY God visiting the world and looking for a goatish adventure.

Or that Yaradua is actually a disguised Beyonce Knowles.

We must accede that there are somethings which as rational beings we can categorically reject.

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@jagun, the lines between spirit-ism and science will only thin further

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^^^^ Like i said before, i have no authority to reject or accept any event that happens in this reality no matter how weird it may seem.So i will remain with my "maybe, maybe not" logic.

The scientist are now more increasingly accepting what the ancient spiritualists have been saying for millenia, that this reality is a simulated 3D holographic illusion, and it is very maleable if somebody knows how to do it.If this is really true, then it becomes very clear why such weird phenomenons can happen because the corpse and the bank notes are all holographic illusions anyway.

Can a dead body turn to or produce bank notes? I do not know, but i cannot and do not rule it out completely because i do not have all the data yet.That remains my stand for now.Let us all wait for more informations before making a final conclusion on what can and cannot happen in this reality.

But i tell you what, with the right 3D animation and special effect software, i can make a corpse sing and dance and spray bank notes straight from his/her mouth in a digital world created by me and it will look real if i know my stuff well and possess a good system.Just look at the kind of graphics coming out of hollywood, the movie avatar as the latest example.I don't have to tell you how convincing the graphics looked and that is only the beginning, the quality is going to get so goo that we will not be able to tell the difference between a CGI and what is real.

Do you understand what i am pointing at here?

-Computer created digital world with a corpse that can do anything, generated by a good combination of 3D graphics and special effect software

-3D holographic simulated reality

-Moneymaking rituals

-Banknotes producing corpses.

I am believing it more and more everyday that this reality that we live in is a computer generated 3D holographic simulated reality, so nothing can be too weird to me anymore.We can't possibly know what is real for us and what is not because there is nothing else we can compare and contrast this reality with.This reality is all we know.Unfortunately, we will have to die or sign out, as i like to put it, before we know what is behind the scene.

As for now, anything is possible, even corpses that produce banknotes.

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Bank notes; Jagunalabi?

Nah.

Especially when you consider that Nature is considerably alien to such things as Money; Signatures; Central Banks; Serial Numbered Paper, etc.

Like i said a corpse could become the wind for all i know. . .

But a bank note? Nah.

@ My Joe: Have you considered that money is actually made from selling the human parts to ritualists and not from turning corpses straight into bank notes?

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This is not about believing anything, it is about remaining open to new informations about our reality that are coninuously streaming in so that we can know.

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^^^ So in your world it is possible to defy "natural laws"?

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Anything is possible.We still know too little how this reality works, or rather how to work this reality.Some do better than others.

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^^^I hear you. And to me, it makes no sense at all. But this thing has been going on for ages in our society. Is it possible people continue to do it when those who did it previously did not get results? How about those guys who turned rich overnight and people point fingers at them and whisper, "He used his wife for money ritual"? Bizarre stuff, yeah.

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Bizzarre stuff.

If i was told that a natural element (such as a human body) could go through a natural process (such as treatment with herbs) and morph into another natural element (such as the wind; or energy). . . I could begin to grapple with that -

But when i am told that a natural element (such as a human body) morphs into an artificial element (such as bank notes) I cannot believe that.

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