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Does God Have A Personal Life?

What does god do outside of answering/not answering prayers, causing destruction, watching over us, ignoring evil and blessing the wrong people?

Does he have friends? Enjoy things he didn't create? Vacation?

Are we the source of his happiness? Without us what would he do or be?

If all mankind went to hell would he be a pissed off lonely losing god?

What is he without us?

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shake my head in utmost pity. you're most probably one of em jobless nigerian university graduates roaming the streets of naija and come on here to both take out your frustration on others as well as find solace on the internet where you can create annonymous identities, live in an alternate reality (e.g. "i travel to america regularly for leisure", "i got boys who'll tire you down and lock you up in a car trunk", "can you help me drive my car i bought from LA to whatever" etc) and employ all the big grammer you learnt from your strike infested educational institutions in other to feel better about your pathetic self; just another patrick obahiagbon wanna-be, but the poverty stricken and frustrated version. reminds me of some of our uncles when we were younger who unecessarily try too hard to impress the village folks with their ill-perceived interllectualism by invoking unwarranted grammar in their speeches to impress the village folks, but no money for pocket. while your mates across the world are being productive with their lives you are here wasting your life in e-christian fundamentalism and attempting to proove intellectual prowess with annonymous screen names on an internet forum. suffer head e nor good o. i feel your pain tho

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^^ Cat still got your tongue? Brain freeze?

Forgive me but who's the dude? I know I've seen him before but cannot for the life of me remember his name.

And you didn't answer my question - you fit drive? or you're not old enough to have a licence? Or you're hiding from police and efcc somewhere in the creeks of warri so can't do what I asked?

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I got a friend to help buy a cheap truck in the US. I need to have it driven or trucked to New Jersey from California where shipping is too expensive. Do you know how to drive? If yes, what would you charge to drive it (2003 F150) to NJ port?

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you're oh so intellectually inclined but stoop to the verbiages of ya mama jokes to buttress your point. no problem. two can play dat game. . .

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^^^ and we'll continue showing you up as the slowpoke slow ignorant piece of BehindBased material you are.

What you call big grammar, btw, is regular english for educated folks. Only yahoo boys like you find slang terminology to be apt for communication. It shows your lack of mental capability when you need a dictionary to read regular english.

baby idiots grow up to be adult idiots. Just don't make the mistake of procreation like your parents did (even though theirs was mistaken)

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go siddon for one corner there. you're one of those nigerians who think inserting big big grammar in your sentences makes you seem smart but is nothing but an egg head

mister i-travel-to-america-for-leisure-in-my-dreams. with your dial-up type speed internet services you guys are using out there in naija

i'd continue to make ridicule of any absurd religious belief systems i find ridiculous and insult religious beliefs if their deluded followers come at me insultively

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god's angel laughing? you, my friend, are pathetic. i never knew you were in an e-fight to protect your imaginary god who can never do anything for himself/itself/herself.

okay. your god is a slow slowpoke, non-existent and can never do more than a dead rat. Fvck your god. now what?

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shut up already. e-buffoon

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lol. i know you're gonna reply. gives you a sense of accomplishment arguing over the internet, huh? patrick obahiagbon wanna-be

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shake my head @ this mentally slow internet troll. u forgot to post in long titangraphs to proove how smart you are to your online friends

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seriously, do you have a life outside of the internet? i pity you and your degenerate family

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I wonder why sanity have eluded some people&insanity overshadows them. Mental well being needs to be examined before people are accepted into forum,pity that its not just possible.

I have never seen anyone thats as senseless as this guy in the entire Nl(im sure others can attest to same)with his frivolous posts&God obssession. Should he be taken seriously or just left to his folly?

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oboy, na kolo you dey so o

see joblessness. no seriously, why are you following nuclearboy around on some sought of imagined e-tag team toothless assault. are you both gay lovers?

@ bolded - i'm not on a mission to "beat" anybody, i'm just here to have fun (you can tell by my thread titles) and dont take mere words on a screen from faceless internet geeks that seriously for me to loss an ounce of my temper, it is they who are quick to get their panties in a bunch and usually start with the personal insult, i just respond back verbatim. i dont take this internet stuff that seriously like these no-life-having e-christian online trolls. logic is not in the dictionary of these rabid christian religious fanatics (especially today's modern-day naija ones) its why i resort to the language they understand. its no better than attempting to use logic and rationality in trying to convince a mad man on the street that he's not the president and cars on the streets are not luxury cruisers

its just funny how these supposedly christ-like naija followers of a jewish carpenter conduct themselves in such hypocritically unchrist-like manner. atleast, for me, according to them, i'm already condemned to spend eternity in the fiery torture chamber of their draconic jewish deity nicknamed yahweh

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u and ur solid Christian, are u both involved se.xually? The obvious answer is Yes. This is Fornication. Since no true Christian fornicates . . . , would I be wrong to highlight ur unfounded and ridiculous generalisation of Christians. This is part of the dogma u have continued to brandish as wisdom.

Not all church-goers or bible-readers are Christians.

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this is a good advice for the young boy mudley.I hope he takes it.I doubt if one can find senses in any of his over 400 Posts till now rather than insults&senselessness

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I will only address this for a moment:

You are wasting your time and if you try to fight fire with fire, any post you make will be a waste of time. Neither atheist, agnostic or fundamentalist will see any sense in your posts. All they will see are the insults.

You cannot beat fundamentalism with harsh words. In fact, you cannot beat it with logic as most are so blind that they do not want to see. But logic and reasoning is the best weapon in the armoury that you have. It does them the most damage. As I said earlier, without it, you end up looking no different from them.

Insults aren't going to get you anywhere. Sure, it's nice to give a broadside now and again, but they should be used sparingly. Many here know that to destroy your argument, all they've got to do is get you to lose your temper. That way, any sense that you have written is hidden in a cloud of condemnation.

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Now back to my regular self. . .

its "thought" not taught and "retardation" not retardity. you im.becile

like i give a flying fvck about forming associations with faceless screen names on an internet forum. i have a life mister, you try go get one. life does not revolve around an online internet forum. stop taking this crap way too seriously forming e-cliques and sh.t. there's more to life than this internet sh.t; its called REALITY - where you're much more of a loser

(clears throat). first off, thanks for the christ-like compliments. but seriously tho, i have to blame your incompetent father for not flushing you with the condom down the toilet after paying for s.ex with your pro.stitute mother. now look what the world has to accomodate, a mentally slow, maladjusted and hypocritical religious fanatic. do us all a favor and walk your slow azz down the middle of a busy freeway with your eyes closed. you would be doing your poverty stricken family a huge favor; trust me

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correct me if i'm wrong, but from my own understanding the gospels of matthew and luke are the only christian writings in existence that mention anything about a virgin birth. none of the letters of paul (written much earlier than any gospel), none of the letters of later christian leaders, neither the gospels of mark nor john nor any of the earliest gnostic gospels, nor any other canonical text, ever mentions a virgin birth. paul, the earliest christian writer, actually uses terms to refer to mary that would only be used to refer to a married, sexually-active woman. mark, the earliest gospel writer, mentions no virgin birth at all, and the writer of john (the last gospel to be written), in addition to having no virgin birth tale, actually calls Jesus the "son of Joseph" in chapter 6

i also understood that although the virgin birth does not appear in the Christian tradition until about 80-85 C.E.,  it seemed to disappear from the christian tradition after about 95-100 C.E. the virgin birth may have, in fact, not even been a widespread belief among 1st century christians. it may well have been a regional thing among jewish christians living in a small area of roman jerusalem, established first in writing by the author of matthew, continued by the gentile author of luke, and then dying out thereafter, until resurrected by 2nd and 3rd century christians who were beginning to study and assemble early christian writings and attempting to develop a doctrinal view of the meaning of jesus's life(its why i pinned its widespread circulation at 3 generation).

thank you. the egyptian version ususally didn't involve a heavenly god impregnating a virgin, but it most certainly included a god-king impregnating his queen to produce a god-prince who would someday rule the kingdom.

from my understanding mithraism, the story of romulus and remus, and the general idea that great men must be conceived by gods rather than regular mortals, explains the genesis and development of the virgin birth stories surrounding jesus. mithras being born of a virgin was one of only many stories about his birth - others, like you stated, said he sprang from a rock. this mythology was part of the way that later romans justified raising romulus to the level of a god himself. julius caesar had a statue built next to romulus and other roman gods, which was one of the actions that led to his assassination cos he seemed to be claiming godship.

co-sign. bastage, i'd like to apologize for my earlier insultive attacks (although you started the name-calling) cos i'm actually learning here. this had always been my initial intentions for posting on the religious forum but i soon figured the so-called christians will rather resort to christ-like personal insults, its why i decided to play it their way. i'm no christian and as an original warri boy i'm very comfortable with the an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth type gutter way of communication

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True. But read the context which it was written in - "it began to circulate long after jesus' death". I doubt very strongly he meant it in the vein that you have put it in. Anyway, the gospels were probably circulating in some form very shortly after the supposed date of the death of Jesus.

They were very likely taken from the pre-dating "Q" source. Prior to that, there was almost certainly an oratory tradition. This would place them very shortly after 1AD and well within one generation rather than three.

As far as I know, there is no Egyptian version of the Mithraic Mysteries predating Christianity or of any importance in it's formation. The cult was perhaps Persian based but nobody knows for sure. Modern scholars propound the theory that it was created exclusively in Rome drawing from earlier Hellenistic thought.

One should also remember (referring back to my statement about the "Q" source and the oratory tradition) that Mithraism does not seem to have been practiced until 80AD - after the formation of Christianity.

Heh. Give him his due here, Mithras was born out of the Earth - "solo aestu libidinis". Basically "Born without sex". As no human influence was involved it could be said to be a Virgin Birth although not born out of a virgin as those who like to use it as an argument against Christianity would have others believe.

Just a few minutes of reading his posts and I'd have to agree with you. He states that Rhea Silvia (the mother of Romulus and Remus) was put to death. In fact, tradition has it that her life was spared and that she went on to marry the god Tiberinus.

He also states:

No. Look up the birth of Isaac. Although not strictly speaking a virgin birth (his mother was sterile) this would have been far more a prominent of such a theme in the time and location where Jesus lived. The people of Palestine might have been under Roman administration but they practiced Jewish tradition. Abraham was the founder of Judaism and his son Isaac, the product of a miraculous birth. No suprise then that Jesus should be the product of a miraculous birth too as the so-called founder of Christianity. Roman influence wasn't needed.

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In 70 years there could be three generations if you consider a generation as a general age-group. This is demonstrated by the fact that a seventy year old person can easily have a son who also has a son. THREE GENERATIONS.

He didn't say it was Egyptian. If you read again carefully he said it was the egyptian version of the myth.

I agree with this. I once bandied about mithra myself but Davidylan successfully showed me that it could not be substantiated.

@ Mudley - by the way, Mithra is said to have emerged whole from a Rock: not born of a virgin.

Nonetheless it remains true that the myth about the virgin birth is most certainly influenced by many similar ancient traditions.

Mudley is often muddled up. But I will for my part pardon him because the bizzarre claims of many religions (particularly the christian faith) are quite enough to excercise any person's patience or sanity. It certainly has excercised mine violently in the past: and I dare say pushed me to the point where I have made remoseless enemies (online!) of some previously precious friends.

I happen to be dating a solid christian. For the peace and progress of the relationship I have since decided to place my objections in my pocket. Faith is what it is; and nobody can claim that it does not have its positive aspects. It does.

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Mudley,i taught u would make a little sense in ur response,but as usual, you displayed retardity. I'll help u count the numbers of people that have observed ur ignorance, noetic,david,inesq,DS,nuclearboy,bastage&myself. Im sure ur fellow atheists would have noticed that u are a slowpoke,but might not want to expose ur stupidity. Just continue.In december no one will be the most meaningless poster here,other than u.

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You didn't listen in class then. Mark is thought by scholars to have been written within 60 to 70 years of the purported time of Jesus' death. That's hardly 3 generations.

Again, you didn't listen. The Mithraic cult was not Egyptian. It was Roman.

And you know this how? Scholars know very, very little about the Mithraic Mysteries. There are a few conjectures that some rituals and elements crossed over but in no way can your statement stand as true. The fact is, so little is known about the Mithras Cult, there is no way of knowing exactly what Christianity adopted.

So. After a quick perusal (you don't warrant more than that) three glaring mistakes in your rebuttal. And I'm meant to take you seriously?

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oh, shut the fvck up. i'm not one to brag about my personal intellectualism like y'all internet geeks on an annonymous online forum. but just so your daft-self know, i took several religious classes in college. and yea, virgin birth is sure one of the countless weaknesses of christian doctrines. it began to circulate long after jesus' death (i think, about 3 generations after) as a result of the natural progression of the "mythology" surrounding jesus.

The concept of a great man being the literal son of a god, and therefore born to a human virgin who is impregnated by said god, was a common theme in ancient mythology.

The most prominent ofsuch theme during the time and location in which Jesus lived was the mythology surrounding Romulus, the founder of Rome. He and his twin brother were said to have been birthed by a Vestal Virgin who was Molested by a god and later put to death for having children. This mythology was part of the way that later Romans justified raising Romulus to the level of a god himself.

Another common virgin birth mythology, known to many people in the 1st century, is the egyptian version from the Mithras cult. Much of what we understand today as Christian traditions were actually Mithraic traditions, later overlayed onto the emerging Christian religion. Mithras was said to have been born of a virgin and incidentally, his birthday was celebrated on December 25th as well.

u happy now, u slow slowpoke

^^^another slow slowpoke on the loose. like little kids you believe in fairy tales and imaginary beings and do not think that makes you nothing short of an imb.ecile. how unfortunate

and the biggest okpemu of them all. a cyber cafe geek who brags about being a phd holder but writes like a 3 year old. olodo-rapata

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I know some atheists are reasonable and very intelligent, but this guy is a proper slowpoke and a disgrace to atheism

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Mudley is the most ignorant person in the religion section. I've told him severally that hes a slowpoke, now its be said by 2 more people.

At the end of the year u must get an award as the most meaningless poster in the Religion section. Enjoy ur folly

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@Bastage:

The dude has no life, no ambition and nothing to look forward to. He blames God and is looking (crying?) for attention. I compare him to a young male elephant on heat who can't find a partner. They're known to pull down trees then attempt to mount them. But it will pass and he'll be restored to his natural self without the anger - a slow slow self-servicer who haunts cyber-cafes in search of what to do.

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Heh!! I can tell you that intellectually and on the topic of religion, I dwarf a "person" such as yourself. So actually, on this subject, you would almost certainly be the "slowpoke".

All you have is what's been spoon-fed to you and then you repeat it parrot fashion ad infinitum. At the end of the day, you are no different from a Christian fundamentalist - just another ignorant, blinkered fool.

And your sarcasm? Hmmm, I think that's basically an excuse for yet more ignorance. You used the Virgin Birth as an example of the weakness of the Christian doctrine yet you have no clue what it actually means or from whence it originated. Claiming sanctuary in the realms of sarcasm only shows that you have nothing meaningful to reply with.

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mallam mugu; you ever heard bout the word sarcasm before?

now clap for your slow self

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Seriously tho, I would say that you are giving the impression that you are severely slow.

The questions you ask are pathetic and show no knowledge of scripture.

I'm not even particularly religious but even I can see that you're talking rubbish and asking pedantic, silly questions which are either based on ignorance or are just looking for an argument. Your whole reason for being here seems to be just to denigrate Christians with absolutely no thirst to learn from thier replies.

If you studied scripture, religion and history, you'd be able to work out the reasoning behind the myth of the Virgin Birth. The ridiculous statement that the god had to impregnate another man's wife because he couldn't find one for himself, just shows how little you actually know about theology.

And if you don't know about a subject, it's best that you keep your mouth shut instead of trying to condemn it. Only with knowledge can you argue. Otherwise, in your own words, you just look slow.

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@ bolded. . .he evidently cant, thats why he had to impregnate another man's wife, mary, wife of joseph. . .and gave birth to himself in the process. seriously tho, christians are slow

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If you can recollect, in the garden of Eden, God normally comes down and chat (Fellowship) with Adam & Eve.

The problem is that we have allowed many things in this earth (cares of the world) to over take us, that we don't even have time to see when God comes to fellowship with us.

By fellowship I mean, have a tet-a-tet with us.

God created us for HIS own pleasure.

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@ OP

this obsession with God is fast making u a nuisance. why are u so obsessed with someone u claim does not exist?

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it uses us for entertainment. the best reality show money can buy.

and those angels singing its name keep it company.

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ya, we put in order this chaos of a world he created. we make it all make sense without his imput. he comes up with a disease, we come up with a cure. When we couldnt come up with something, we came up with him.

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