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Does Islam Guarantee Salvation?

It is often said that Islam is the purest religion; and by this most Muslims go further to say that it is the way to find salvation.

However, on further study one finds that no one can be sure of being saved in the religion of Islam. Therefore, if there is no guarantee of salvation in Islam, what then is the hope those who rigorously follow Muhammad's Qur'an with such uncertainties of their eternal future?

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These Islamic men can rejoice all they want for the promise of Islamic heaven.

Has anyone stopped to wonder about the virgins?

who is speaking out for justice for these sex slaves with regenerating hymen?

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Faith without work is dead.

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To say "faith" is the only thing that guarantees salvation is not enough, faith in what? How does one acquire this "faith"?

The irony of the above is how eeriely close it sounds to "Except a man be born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of God".

1. Did Allah promise muslims a "kingdom" or is this another subtle attempt to force christian concepts into the islam? What are the attributes of the muslim jaanat that qualifies it as a kingdom since there are no thrones there, no sons (only slaves), no kings and princes, no crowns, Allah cannot be seen and it is nothing more than a booze and sex-fest?

2. What if a sinner dies as a muslim? Does he still qualify for your "kingdom of God"?

It pretends to do so on earth but actively encourages it in "heaven".

You are absolutely right yet it promises "believers" rivers flowing with alchohol in heaven!

Here is the problem. Who are those "all prophets"? Who sent them, to whom and when? Where are there books and revelations? why are they not in the quran or does Allah not consider their message as important as that of mohammed?

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@poster

I believe the only thing that gurantee Salvation is FATE.

But if am 2 answer ur question according 2 my FATE,then my answer is YES.

I am not here 2 crucify any religion but i want us all 2 know that religion alone cannot gurantee the eternal glory of heaven.

My Fate makes me believe that "Except U submit totally 2 the will of God,U can not enter His paradise."

And it makes me 2 know  that "Except a man dies as a MUSLIM,he can not enter the kingdom of God."

Then

Who is a muslim?

What is Islam?

What r d articles of Faith?

What r d Islam ways of Life?

Except u r a muslim,u might not be able 2 ans all these n  cannot know what a Muslim believes.

Islam does not support fornication nor adultery.

It does not welcome drinking nor smoking.

If u follow the Holy Quran,u will know that Islam is a complete way of life,and  A real muslim lives his life in complete Remembrance of Allah(SWT) and thus alwaz conscious of his doings

All prophets r sent as a reminder n each one of them leave behind a gr8 lesson of their lifetime. What we should be asking ourselves is "R U a true follower of who u claim"

Note

Believe strongly in what u know n learn that wc u know not.

May Allah(SWT) direct us 2 d rght path(Amin)

Ma salam

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@BillGatesFan,

Heaven is guaranteed for those who trust in Jesus Christ.

The question has been asked, I believe, as a matter for discussion. Islamic attacks may continue as long and as much as they wish, it won't change anything.

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you can start by defining the term 'born again'

and why you think catholics are not that?

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@babs787,

It's really a simple case. The point of a debate is to try and persuade people to your point and perspectives, whether or not they hold to your views previously. If they already held your views and convictions, why even engage in a debate in the first place?

Now, isn't it sort of quizzical that you are in the same situation that you allege about me? No matter how much people have tried to share their views and perspectives with you, there just has to be something that you'd bring up to further the argument in an effort to maintain your already held convictions. If you require that others be a little condescending towards your convictions at the expense of their own, why is it difficult for you to offer the same acquiescence towards them?

I've carefully gone through your interpretation of the verses that convince you about the salvation offered in Islam. Honestly, I don't find a consistency in them at all - and that is precisely why I asked questions, offering some other verses from Islam's holy books that were of concern to me. You don't suppose that I would have to take a Muslim position to debate issues you argued against Christianity, when infact I am a Christian!

I didn't enter this Forum to castigate any religion; and I've engaged fellow Christians in debates as well, in the belief that we can all thrash out issues without over-reaching ourselves. However, did you ever sit back for a moment to realize that you often tend to ridicule Christ and the Christian faith by the way you respond to issues? I guess your answer would be 'No,' but you can't deny that you have ever castigated Jesus, can you? Not even once?

No qualms. I have always tried to be open to intellectual exercises; and of such kind that do not involve over-reaching one's rationality. The arguments you have offered so far have not been convincing in conveying your persuasions. Can we hope to read some more informed discourses from you henceforth?

Cheers.

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BABS YOU HAVE GREATLY DISSAPOINTED ME. YOU STARTED OUT WITH SEEMING HONEST ENQUIRY BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN, YOU ARE NOT READY TO LISTEN TO HONEST ANSWERS. YOU ASKED QUESTIONS, WHICH I ANSWERED BUT YOU REFUSED TO READ THEM BUT INSTEAD YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CHELSEA VS LIVERPOOL MATCH. NOW YOU ARE JUDGING STIMULUS OF ALREADY MAKING UP HIS MIND.

IT IS QUITE DISSAPOINTING, YOU LIED ABOUT BEING A CHRISTIAN BEFORE AND NOW YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPECK IN SOME ELSES EYES WHEN YOU AHEV A LOG IN YOURS.

I DONT KNOW IF LYING IS CONDONE BY YOU BUT THE BIBLE SAYS ALL LIARS WHO DO NOT REPENT HAVE A PORTION IN HELL.

I AM NOT ANGRY AT YOU BUT I FIND IT DISTURBING TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH AT ALL.

WHY DONT YOU TAKE TIME TO READ MY RESPONSES AGAIN AND APPROACH THE WHOLE ISSUE WITHOUT PRESUPPOSITION. LET GOD DEFEND HIMSELF, HE DOESNT NEED YOUR HELP IN ANYWAY-OR IS HE NOT GOD?

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@stimulus

Actually, one doesn't have to be a Muslim in order to engage in dialogue, debate or disucssion of sorts. I believe that one of the reasons for a Forum like this is to set out the misconceptions of discussants who counter-argue issues with others. How is one going to ever know anything new if you engage them in a public Forum and then at the same time decline from offering them answers to what you believe they don't know?

You are right that one needs not be a Muslim in order to engage in dialogue or debate but as for me, I dont believe in fruitless debate. Dont you think that it will be an endless debate because at the end of the day you will stick to your belief regardless of the facts being tendered? You are already inclined to your belief and doesnt belief in any other prophet and book aside Jesus and Bible, so arguing with you will be a sheer waste of time. If you or other christians want to know about my belief as regards salvation, I have provided enough verses up, you only need to read them. As for salvation in christianity, I didnt want to push further because you have told me that you dont belive in my prophet and Allah, so to be candid with you, I wont indulge in debate with anyone that doesnt believe in my God and at the end of the day heaps insult on my God.

It might be interesting to view your list, though; perhaps it might add to what I thought I already know. However, if you still decline, then all the best and cheers.

You are not ready to know more than what you have already known. So if you believe that christianity, bible or jesus is the only way to salvation, good luck, so be it.

There

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@babs787,

Actually, one doesn't have to be a Muslim in order to engage in dialogue, debate or disucssion of sorts. I believe that one of the reasons for a Forum like this is to set out the misconceptions of discussants who counter-argue issues with others. How is one going to ever know anything new if you engage them in a public Forum and then at the same time decline from offering them answers to what you believe they don't know?

It might be interesting to view your list, though; perhaps it might add to what I thought I already know. However, if you still decline, then all the best and cheers.

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@stimulus

Before replying your spurious post, do you believe that there is a prophet and Messenger called Muhammad (saw) and the Creator called Allah. Your response will determine my moving ahead with you.

Good luck.

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@stimulus

Honestly I dont want to indulge in roundabout argument that lacks proofs, facts etc, I really dey enjoy sport threads

babs787,

If you understand anything better, please share and don't start another argument pretending you don't understand English anymore! "Salvation is of the Jews" in context of the discourse Jesus had with the woman in John 4:22 simply means that it is from the Jews that salvation will come to the nations of the world.

Before going further on the issue of salvation going to the jews. Please explain the below verse

Mathew 1 v 21: she will bear a son, and you shall call his name jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.

Another question here, who are Jesus's people?

Quote from: babs787 on Today at 02:28:04 PM

2. Are you a jew?

Does one need to be a Jew before receiving salvation in Jesus Christ?

Did you see what your brother write

"salvation is of the Jews."  meaning that Jews only will be saved am asking what of those that are not Jews. If you are not a Jew, no salvation for you because salvation is for jews.

Quote from: babs787 on Today at 02:28:04 PM

3. Do christians and Jews share the same belief, read the same holy book etc ?

And what is that supposed to prove? Do Muslims and Jews share the same beliefs - do they read the same book, etc?

Still on the same topic. If salvation of of the jews, how come your holy book is different from theirs? If salvation comes from the jews to other nations as said by you, why dont you follow their holy books?

Christians are not Jews to whom were committed Judaism; but believing Jews and Christians believe in the OT prophecies prointing to their NT fulfillment. Not to even mention that Muslims do not believe in the so-called "revelations" which Muhammad said were given by 'Allah'.

Brother, you drew me into this so you must be prepared for the questions. Do Jews and Christians follow the same Testaments?

Quote from: babs787 on Today at 02:28:04 PM

4. Was he sent to you?

Jesus Christ was sent to the whole world - John 3:16.

Brother, was it Jesus that said the statement in John 3 v 16 and is Jesus the only begotten son really? Also I will be giving you verses that said that he was not sent to the whole world but to the nations of Israel including the twelve tribes of Israel.

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@babs787,

Do you really think before jumping in to address issues at all?

If you understand anything better, please share and don't start another argument pretending you don't understand English anymore! "Salvation is of the Jews" in context of the discourse Jesus had with the woman in John 4:22 simply means that it is from the Jews that salvation will come to the nations of the world.

Does one need to be a Jew before receiving salvation in Jesus Christ?

And what is that supposed to prove? Do Muslims and Jews share the same beliefs - do they read the same book, etc?

Christians are not Jews to whom were committed Judaism; but believing Jews and Christians believe in the OT prophecies prointing to their NT fulfillment. Not to even mention that Muslims do not believe in the so-called "revelations" which Muhammad said were given by 'Allah'.

Jesus Christ was sent to the whole world - John 3:16.

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@tayod

Jesus said: [b[i]]"salvation is of the Jews."[/i] [/b] Until you can prove that Muhammad is a Jew, I find no basis to even begin to think that Islam, a product of the Arabs, will provide anything close to salvation.

Honestly most christians do not think before addressing issues. They dont know that anything being said, goes back to them.

The above italicised word calls for some questions

1. What do you understand by that word, 'salvation is of the jews'?

2. Are you a jew?

3. Do christians and Jews share the same belief, read the same holy book etc ?

4. Was he sent to you?

Then after that, I will provide verses on the above from my book.

You may suspend you answers till after the champions league final, we are still celebrating.

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@topic,

Jesus said: "salvation is of the Jews." Until you can prove that Mohammed is a Jew, I find no basis to even begin to think that Islam, a product of the Arabs, will provide anything close to salvation.

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@jeshua & pilgrim

Apart from the handshake, I am still celebrating liverpool's victory over that yeye Chelsea but the debate or argument will resume soon and all your posts will be attended to. I am plotting chelsea's fall on Sunday and this debate may resume after or before champions league final.

You will surely hear from me.

Take care

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@jeshua,

What exactly do you mean by Christianity; and how does that differ from the faith practiced by those called Christians in the Bible?

I'm glad you could spot that out for him.

The Qur'an cannot survive on its own - Muslims MUST depend on the ahadith to interpret and understand the message of 'Allah's' book. Further, the hadith itself notes that there are certain verses of the Qur'an which are not clear to Muslims; and anyone among them who follows those unclear verses of the Qur'an are misled!!

I couldn't agree more. Muslims will often tell you that they believe in ALL the revelations of the Biblical prophets (that is in reference to Qur'an 2:136); but in reality, they really do not believe in those revelations at all. That is why when asked where those revelations can be found today, they make the excuses that they are LOST, or have been corrupted. The question then is, why would 'Allah' be asking them to believe in revelations that are lost or have been corrupted??

Anyone who carefully studies that Qur'an and ahadith cannot miss the fact that Muhammad himself used the very Scriptures of the Old Testament that the Jews used - especially the Torah given to Moses. The claim that the 'original' is LOST or corrupted is not true; and any Muslim holding on to that lie is revealing the fact that he/she believes nothing about the Biblical revelations/Scriptures; and that is why they make that claim contrary to what the Qur'an and hadith say.

May God help them come to Jesus Christ for salvation before it is too late.

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You also said Pastors are confused about salvation, I don't actuallly think I know what you are trying to say. The Bible is very clear about salvation and if you feel confused then why don't you ask sincerely with a heart that wants to know the truth. Atleast the Quran told you ask from the "people of the book" if you were confused.

just like you have Imams saying things contrary to the hermeneutics of the Quran so do you have people who may not understand what they are talking about. but you quoted, John 3:15-18, Jesus said thoes words to some one who thought like you he had tried Christ not knowing he only tried a religion. "The Drum beaters only announces the Masquerade but they are not the MAsquerade it self.

There is no place where the Bible says "believe and be baptized to enter "PARADISE". Maybe you need to give chapter and verse. When the bible speaks of believe and be baptized, do you know into what the baptism entails? To you you think just dipping in water but the bible teaches that baptizing them into the name of Jesus Christ. The water doesnt save anybody, maybe you have beeen baptized before too, you only took a bath. Because when we are baptized, we are baptized into jesu, it is symbolic of what our spirit had done when we repent of our sins and accept that jesus Died in our stead on the cross and we give him our life and trust him to cleanse us. The baptism is into Jesus the annointed of God. by the way i have been baptized too, not take abth. I was saved before i was baptized and i showed the joining of my lspirit with the Spirit of christ by the water baptism.

Now going through the bible, one wonders if faith alone can make one to have salvation (john 3 v 15-18) or faith with baptism (mark 16 v 16) or faith with works (james 2 v 14-15). Which of those qualifies one for Paradise?

When you speak of faith, we understand what the bible says by allowing the Bible to interprete the bible with the help of Gods Spirit, just like you will trust the sayings of the Prophet(SAW) to better understand some difficult topics in the Quran(correct me sincerely if i am wrong). Only the Bible interpretes the Bible.

Mark 16: 16 talks about baptizing into the name of the father, the son and the holy Spirit just like I told you, it only comes after you have believed because you faith in the saving work of Jesus Christ gives you salvation.

James 2:14-15 was James address to a paople who thought that because they were saved then they don't need to cater for the physical needs of people but just tell them to go and it is well, James said, if you anything to do to help, do it. Dont send the needy away saying that a miracle will happen when you have what he needs with you. Some times you see people who can help you but they ask you to fend for yourself because to them you still have a lot to learn in life and they are not ready to hand you the ticket free of charge. That is what was happenning to these people. James told them to show their good works too not just talk about faith. In a nutshell, he was saying show what you believe-if you say you have love in your heart show LOVE, if you say you are pursuing PEACE, then always seek for peace no matter what.

Further, in the books of Ephesians 1:4-6 and Revelation 17:8, everybody is pr-destined for either heaven of hell before the ‘foundation of the world’. Meaning that no one can be saved except his name is written in the beginning whether you are born again or not and whether you have been baptized or not. Also, no one can gain paradise except God wants (John 6 v 65), meaning that it is based on God’s decision and will save someone when he likes.

The bible didnt talk about you being predestined for hell. The Bible says God does not wish that anyone should perish but it is your choice, I am sort of like amused at your quotation in the book of revelation, the Bible speaks of those who follow the Beast and are decieved and they end up perishing with him. Let me give you a better place Mat 25:41 “Then he will say  to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels!. You don't go to hell because God wished it for you but because you refused to make the vital decision for Christ Jesus. But I know it is even Islam that is fatalistic in nature. You seem to be used to quoting out of context and adding what is not there. I don't think I see anything there that reads PARADISE. Jesus said that to some people who wanted to be his disciples but felt just like you that some things which he was saying was too difficult and hard to accept(read from verse 52).

They thought they could threaten him to stop by attempting to leave Him but he told them God controls things and they can't frightened him but that God will bring does who will listen and follow the truth he proclaims.

I hope you will read carefully this post and the former to better understand the picture. You don't approach the Bible with the mind you have that says, "there is a problem here and I am going to find it to prove there is problem". I love you but i believe that God loves you more than you can ever know. Just be sincere about it, are you sure you are really sure? Can you bank on your good works to save you? Have you done enough to guarantee you are secured? To me, i am not good, the Bible says, it is by "Grace that i am saved not by works". i can't do enough to be saved, i will rather choose to trust him who promised me salvation because if He can die for me, then he will do anything to save me. Islam teaches that Jesus was to great to be killed, it is true, all religions that spoke of Christ narrated his greatness and purity and I totally agree, they couldnt have killed Him because Jesus christ himself confessed-"NO ONE TOOK MY LIFE, "John 10:18a but Listen to the rest:"No one can take my life from me. I lay down my life voluntarily. For I have the right to lay it down when I want to and also the power to take it again. For my Father has given me this command."-John 10:18. He gave His lfe so so can stop running and have peace. People will fail you, only Christ wont, why don't you just try him now and differentiate between Jesus Christ who died for you and the Religion Christianity. I have tasted Him and i know I have found what everyman seeks for, for God has set a vacuum in everymans heart : Ecc 3:11 says;" He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put [b]eternity[/b]Vacuum in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end".

what do you want, peace or you want to keep telling yourself you know what you are doing until,

you have tried and you are still trying but you know you are doing enough to get a reach of Gods holiness and mercy.

Pro 28:26 The one who trusts in his own heart   is a fool, but the one who walks in wisdom  will escape.

Ecc 11:9 Rejoice, young man, while you are young,  and let your heart cheer you in the days of your youth. Follow the impulses  of your heart and the desires of your eyes, but know that God will judge your motives and actions.

check this website:http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/YesLord/howtobe.htm

Hope to hear from you again? You either accept or reject Jesu Christ because He is now the issue

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@jeshua

Thanks but no thanks.

What is your conclusion, please be factual and tell me how to get salvation in christianity. I have tried the two religion and can confidently tell you that no religion that teaches Paradise as Islam. Al-Quran is my sure link with Allah, proof me wrong and I will join yours.

On the issue of salvation, pastors too are confused and if they are not, please explain these to me

The Bible confuses the whole issue of salvation. Many claim that faith in Jesus Christ is enough for salvation as being put by John 3 v 15- 18. If you are laying claim to that, then is a problem as there are other verses that go against that. For example the Gospel says that whoever believes and is baptized will gain paradise (Mark 16 v 16) that leaves us to wonder about the fate of those born again Christians that died or are alive without being baptized.  I doubt it if you yourself has been baptized. Now going through the bible, one wonders if faith alone can make one to have salvation (john 3 v 15-18) or faith with baptism (mark 16 v 16) or faith with works (james 2 v 14-15). Which of those qualifies one for Paradise?

Further, in the books of Ephesians 1:4-6 and Revelation 17:8, everybody is pr-destined for either heaven of hell before the ‘foundation of the world’. Meaning that no one can be saved except his name is written in the beginning whether you are born again or not and whether you have been baptized or not. Also, no one can gain paradise except God wants (John 6 v 65), meaning that it is based on God’s decision and will save someone when he likes.

Which do I take

Thank you and God bless.

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THE NAME CHRISTIANITY WAS THE NOT THE NAME GIVEN BY GOD OR JESUS BUT BY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT BELIEVERS OF CHRIST BECOS THEY SAW THE DISCIPLES BEHAVING EXACTLY LIKE JESUS CHRIST. IT IS NOT A RELIGION THAT CHRIST OFFERS IT IS THE TRUTH. DONT GET ME WRONG OR SIMPLY SAY I AM BIAS YET. YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS A BOY, I WENT OUT IN SEARCH OF THE TRUTH ABOUT LIFE AFTER TRYING EVERYTHING THAT I THOUGHT CHRISTIANITY OFFERED. I GOT A QURAN AND I BEGAN TO READ AND I WAS INQUISITIVE (IT WAS AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION PRODUCED BY THE FORMER BENDEL STATE GOVERNMENT), I STILL HAVE THE QURAN IN MY ROOM AT HOME. I DISCOVERED SO MANY SIMILARITIES AND I WAS BAFFLED-IT SEEMS THE CORE MESSAGE OF THE MUSLIM HOLY BOOK WAS SIMILAR TO THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE TOO. I WAS TROUBLED AND I FELT LIKE ALONE AND HOPELESS. TT MADE DEMAND OF ME TO ATTAIN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

THEN ONE DAY I WAS IN CHURCH, THEN THE PREACHER ASKED US HOW ARE WE SURE OF GOING TO HEAVEN IF WE DIE? I COULDNT ANSWER, IT WAS THE VERY SAME QUESTION THAT GOT ME THINKING IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU SAID YOU HAVE ONCE TRIED CHRISTIANITY AND YOU HAVE COME TO ACCEPT ISLAM. I DO NOT BLAME YOU-I FELT THE SAME WAY TOO.I WAS EVEN FASCINATED BY THE RITUALS IN ISLAM, CHRISTIANS CAN MISS CHURCH AND STILL SAY THEY ARE CHRISTIANS BUT A TRUE MUSLIM PRAYS FIVE TIMES AND ASPIRES TO FOLLOW THE OTHER TENETS, I WAS FASCINATED.

BUT THAT DAY, THE PREACHER ASKED ME A QUESTION THAT I DIDNT WANT ANOTHER PERSON TO ASK ME, NOT TO TALK OF GOD THE ALMIGHTY.HOW I WAS SURE OF SALVATION AND HEAVEN?I HAVE TRIED TO BE GOOD, I HAVE TRIED TO DO GOOD THINGS AND INSPITE OF MY ATTEMPTS I WAS STILL NOT SURE. TODAY WE READ ABOUT MUSLIMS BLOWING UP THEMSELVES TO BASICALLY TO DO THE WILL OF Allah AND GET TO PARADISE. THE DESIRE TO COME TO A PLACE OF JOY AND PEACE CAN MAKE ANY SERIOUS PERSON DO ANYTHING. IN ANCIENT TIMES, AFRICAN WARRIORS DID EXTRAORDINARY THINGS BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT AFTER SUCH ACTS THEY WILL BE REVERRED AND HIGHLY PLACED. IT IS THAT SAME DESIRE FOR GOD TO BE PLEASED WITH US AND PUT US IN A STATE OF PEACE AND SATISFACTION. I KNOW THAT IS WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR WHEN YOU BECAME A MUSLIM. THE PREACHER THAT DAY NOW TOLD ME (PLEASE PERMIT ME TO REFER TO ME INSTEAD OF US) THAT ALL MY ATTEMPTS TO FIND PEACE AND ASSURANCE OF THE FUTURE'S BLISS IS LIKE A FILTHY RAG BEFORE A GOD WHOSE HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BEYOND HUMAN COMPREHENSION. IT IS CLEAR I AM UNHOLY AND GOD IS HOLY, I AM TRYING TO BE HOLY TO PLEASE HIM AND BE ACCEPTABLE TO HIM. MUSLIMS SAY THEY ARE SLAVES AND CHRISTIANS SAY THEY ARE CHILDREN, IT IS ALL ABOUT ATTEMPT AT  HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A "GOD" WHO IS ABOVE AND HOLY. YOU TALK ABOUT DOING GOOD TO CANCEL THE BAD, EVEN IF YOU DONT WANT TO DO EVIL, YOU AND I KNWE HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES DOING WHAT WE DO NOT WISH TO DO. THE PREACHER SAID, GOD KNOWS WE HAVE ALL SINNED AND HE SEES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT BUT OUR LIFE HAS BEING SOLD OUT TO SIN, WE CANT SIMPLY HELP OURSELVES-AND THAT IS VERY TRUE. I KNOW PRAYING, BEING NICE AND KIND AND EVERY GOOD THING I DO, WONT CHANGE THE FACT THAT I AM HELPLESS TO SIN.

HE SAID ALL RELIGIOUS LEADERS CAME TO OFFER A WAY OUT BUT THAT JESUS CHRIST DIDNT OFFER A WAY OUT BUT HE OFFERED HIMSELF HAS THE WAY OUT. HE SAID GOD  BECAME MAN, EVEN THE JEWS OF JESUS TIME CONFESSED THAT WHAT HE DID AND PERFORM, ONLY GOD  COULD HAVE DONE IT. THE QURAN EVEN NARRATED AMAZING RECORDS OF WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID.  I WAS BAFFLED THAT GOD HIMSELF OFFERED A SOLUTION FOR MY SITUATION AND IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ME DOING ANYTHING TO BECOME HOLY TO MAKE HEAVEN BUT ALL I NEEDED WAS TO ACCEPT THAT JESUS CHRIST TOOK MY PLACE ON THE CROSS, I WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE, BUT HE DIED (FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEAD) IN MY PLACE. FOR THE FIRST I SAW WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. I DONT HAVE TO STRUGLGLE TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO GOD ANYMORE BECASUE THE VERY RECORD OF THE SINLESSNESS OF JESUS CHRIST HAS BEEIN TRANSFERED TO ME.

HE SAID ACCEPTING CHRIST JESUS GIVES YOU PEACE AND HOPE AND NOW IT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO LIVE HOLY AND IF I FAIL IN MY WORK WITH GOD, THAT I HAVE AN ADVOCATE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE TROUBLE I FACE AND THE TEMPTATIONS I FACE HAS A HUMAN BEING. JESUS CHRIST SPEAKS UP FOR ME. THAT IS WHAT NO OTHER PROPHET OR RELIGIOUS LEADER EVER DID. I CONFESSED MY SIN AND ASKED JESUS CHRIST TO BE MY LORD AND SAVIOUR AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I INSTANTLY FELT THE PEACE IN MY HEART AND MY LIFE CHANGED, NOW IT IS EASY TO LIVE HOLY. I CANT SAY ITS BEEN PERFECT ALL THROUGH BUT I CAN ALWAYS TRUST THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST THAT GAVE ME PEACE THAT DAY TO KEEP ME GOING. NOVEMBER 1986 CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER.

YOU MIGHT ASK THEN IF I AM SURE OR HOW DO I KNOW IF MY SALVATION IS GUARANTEED NOW? VERY GOOD, HE PROMISED TO GIVE MY PEACE-HE DID IT

HE PROMISED TO GIVE ME HIS SPIRIT-HE DID (BECAUSE NOW I CAN HEAR HIM SPEAK IN AND TO ME)

IF HE HAS FULFILLED THE PROMISES HE MADE THEN I CAN TRUST HIM TO DO THAT WHICH I HAVE NOT SEEN.

I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS THE KIND OF CHRISTIANITY YOU TRIED OR THE ONE I FIRST TRIED AND WAS DISSAPOINTED? IF YOU SEEK FOR PEACE AND GUARANTEE OF SALVATION IN THE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY,YOU WILL BE DISSAPOINTED BUT IF YOU WILL TRY CHRIST TODAY HE SAID-" I STAND AT THE DOOR AND KNOCK, IF ANY ONE WILL HEAR MY VOICE AND OPEN THE DOOR, I WILL COME COME IN , " REV. 3:20.

IF YOU FORGET ANYTHING THAT I HAVE SAID DONT FORGET THIS-GOD LOVES YOU AND OFFERS A WONDERFUL PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE. MUSLIMS KILLED MY UNCLE BUT IF THEY KNEW BETTER, THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN, SATISFACTION DOES NOT COME FROM WHAT YOU DO BUT WHAT GOD HIMSELF DID. LOVE YOU BROTHER.

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Quran 2 v 111: And they say: 'None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.' Those are their (vain) desires. Say, 'Produce your proof if you are truthful.'

To the unbelievers; that reject truth

Quran 16 v 25: Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also (something) of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!

Quran 29 v 13; They will bear their own burdens, and (other) burdens along with their own, and on the Day of Judgments they will be called to account for their falsehoods.

Quran 98 v 6: Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book (Christians and Jews) and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein. They are the worst of creatures.

Peace.

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Amen!! Lord, open the eyes of the deceived.

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@babs787,

Thank you again. However, after patiently going through both posts, I have this comment to make:

(a) you're correct that in the Qur'an, faith and works go together rather than stand alone. You can't really blame stimulus for not having been a muslim previously; but even so, his analysis is accurate to the last dot!

(b) the reason why I say the above is because the criteria for entering paradise in Islam as taught in both the Qur'an and ahadith are in[/b]consistent. If faith [b]AND works are closely connected, mutually inclusive rather than exclusive, then it only makes sense that a man's faith must be produce good works.

(c) that said, it is utterly untenable and illogical that a man may believe in Allah and enter paradise EVEN if he dies in his SINS! Is it not for the same reasons of "THEFTS" and "ILLEGAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE" that Muslims have their hands cut off and women are stoned?? (even the stoning of women is one of the missing verses of the Qur'an, which again makes the book INCOMPLETE!!).

(d) I see no reason why Islam should teach heinous punishments against those who commit such wicked sins if they would still enter paradise even though they die in their sins!! This is an indefensible contradiction.

(e) Just imagine what kind of message is being preached in Islam if people can go out and commit ILLEGAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE and still hope to enter paradise if they die in those sins, simply because they believed in 'Allah'! What does that say about the holiness of Muhammad's religion? Is it any wonder that people don't take sin seriously in Islam, and all the talk about "righteousness" is mere talk?

You could just imagine asking Jesus the same question about SIN. Here is His answer:

Luke 13

verse 2-3:  "And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

verses 4-5: "Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem[b]?[/b] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

A message that preaches hatred against ILLEGAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE and still admits its perpetrators into paradise (even if they die in them) is NOT worthy of the name "religion".

Does this not confirm the convoluted idea that Muhammad was merely a messenger? Look closely, babs787, and you will find that Muhammad set himself up at par with Allah; and there's no denying that fact. More to come when you deny that.

I had hoped to read something more enlightening that what I already know is being taught in Islam. This is very sad, to say the least. If you had shown me without contradiction that a sinner could enter paradise but "will first REPENT of his/her sins," then perhaps you'd have caught my interest. Without contradiction, remember?

This belief is why Muslims still have no clue of how seriously God takes the issue of sin. NO SINNER who dies in his/her sins can ever hope to get out of hell! As long as people believe that they will still enter paradise even if they die in their sins, there would be no genuine repentance from them.

May God open you eyes to see this truth. The beauty of salvation in Jesus Christ is that the repentant sinner will NOT enter hell even for one minute!! Why? Because a merciful and forgiving God reaches out to the needy sinner in complete compassion, forgiveness, and redemption.

If a person is striving after righteousness and still hoping to go to hell, what kind of message is that? Once a person gets into hell, all hope is LOST!!

In the name of Jesus Christ, may hell never be the portion of anyone reading this discussion. Amen.

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this @babs787 sabi waste paper,na him type dey write nonsense for exams and go still dey beg invigilator for extra papers and end up having F9 or carry over.

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@pilgrim

(d) there is a consistent criteria for entering paradise; or just so many ideas that Muhammad wished on the spur of the moment? (no offences meant; and I'll offer why my question is thus worded).

Just like I replied your brother

Islamic concept of salvation is not based upon good deeds, but is based primarily upon faith. In the dozens of times Allah Almighty talks in the Quran about salvation, he always states, "Those who believe and do good deeds." Belief is always mentioned before deeds or works. When one converts to Islam, one does not do it by doing some good work but rather through realizing and believing that there is but one God and Muhammed peace be upon him is his last messenger. Non-Muslims may perform good works as well, but what sets them apart from Muslims is their lack of Imaan (Aqeedah) [faith], or belief. The reason that the good works of the non-believers are worthless in the hereafter is because of their disbelief. Unless a person's imaan or aqeedah is not correct, all his good deeds are worthless.

(e) does Islam teach that believing in Muhammad is to believe in Allah?

Quran 4 v 80: He who obeys Muhammed (saw) has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (O Muhammed saw) as a watcher over them.

(f) can ANYONE enter paradise with ANY sin at all?

A sinner can enter paradise but will first taste Hell and remain there according to the weight of his sins.

Hope I have communicated?

So let me have yours

Thanks.

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@babs787,

Could you please expound on your answers? I'd be grateful if you could especially give an outline (such as on #d, #e, #f), and then I could compare notes with what I have to offer you.

Thanks.

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@pilgrims

Funny how you accused me of dodging your questions.

(a) Muhammad expressed doubts about the message of salvation he preached?

Nooo.

(b) he contradicted himself in both the Qur'an and ahadith on the basis of entering paradise?

Nooooo

(c) the Qur'an and ahadith are saying the same things on guarateeing salvation to Muslims?

Yes

(d) there is a consistent criteria for entering paradise; or just so many ideas that Muhammad wished on the spur of the moment? (no offences meant; and I'll offer why my question is thus worded).

Let me have yours

Then also,

(e) does Islam teach that believing in Muhammad is to believe in Allah?

Yes

(f) can ANYONE enter paradise with ANY sin at all?

Yes

So let me have your denial, hadith and verses from the Quran please

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Ok,I wouldn't castrate anyone,happy now?

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i worry about you *sighs*

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we had someother guy categorically state in another thread that there was absolutely nothing wrong with marrying a 9 year old girl since Islam considered them mature.(Mohammed did same)

If I could castrate him and feed him balls over the internet,I would have done it in a heartbeat,without anaesthesia,I might add.

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babs,may the very life in you be snuffed out before you subject any 9 year olds to sexual abuse,you pervert!!

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ehne hen! save us

is someone actually encouraging pedophilia?

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babs,wetin dey happen?why you just chop all the space,you for just tell us in two sentences,well,islam does not guarantee salvation at all from my own knowledge.

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Islam guarantees NO salvation

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@oyb,

You may not know it, but the highlighted sins you mentioned were the issues that got me thinking about my salvation while a former muslimah. I could give you instances in both the Quran and the Hadith where every one of the sins you mentioned have been committed by Muslims themselves (not to mention Muhammad himself). Islam is NOT a monotheistic religion; and as Muslims we have often used and continue to use the disguised polytheism of the Quran to falsely accuse the Jews and Christians of being worse than pagans (or, as the Quran puts it in Sura 98 v. 6, "worst of creatures" [YusufAli tr.]).

Adultery, lying in the name of Allah, and other vices trail the career of prophet Muhammad; although Muslims do not like to honestly face up to these facts in their holy books. I do not want to go through quoting them here again, for it isn't in my nature to be purposely derisive. But even the grave sin of lying against Muhammad cannot be intelligently defended, since the prophet of Islam is known to have both lied and used deceit many times during his career. Today, there is such a tenet of lying in Islam known as al-Taqiyya; and that is not a new doctrine that fringe Islamic groups devised - it dates back to the prophet of Islam himself.

I'm willing to provide detailed textual references for my convictions above upon request.

Prayerlessness is a sin in both religions of Islam and Christianity, as well as in Judaism; but one cannot argue that keeping or not keeping money in banks constitute any sin.

It is getting interesting that you've made reference to "guarantee", which is the central to my enquiry in this thread. Please, patiently go through my response to babs787's post so that you can better appreciate my concerns and arguments that Islam does NOT guarantee salvation to anyone - not even to those who rigorously follow the Quran.

Thank you once again for your efforts.

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yes it does ONLY IN BETWEEN THE LEGS OF WOMEN IN "paradise"Salvation my foot.

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It is amazing how babs and his likes are quick to talk of the prophets of the Bible and whatever sins they committed.

Are these not the same prophets your koran talks about howbeit in a confused manner after Mo plagiarized the Bible?

He was afterrall illiterate.

Who would buy a book written by an illiterate fella with jumbled up stories on idolatory mixed with Christianity and Judaism called Islam.

I still maintain that Muhammad,a sexual abuser of women,murderer,craddle-robber and a looter is no example to follow.

A man who said with his own mouth of not knowing what Allah was going to do to him.

How could anyman emulate him?

Because he frightens you by demanding you not ask questions when all fingers point to the fact that he was mentally disturbed.

He admitted he was posessed of the devil

His wives and his own mother said so too.

Mo was an impostor,a violent impostor who killed anyone that dared oppose his ill ideas

what other evidence do you need?.

It is right there in your own books,you don't need me to say these.

You now know the truth,the rest is up to to you.

lastly,I will not engage you in useless biblical arguments,it is a waste of my precious time.

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When will all these rubbish argument about false religion end.?

Why cant people open their eyes and realise that Islam was Mohammed's Own Contraption?

Please We All Know there is A God, but Islam is one of those Misunderstood, Violent and Wrong Paths to Him.

The Only Path to God Is Love. I know Id Get Pummeled -Vituperatively for this,

Yeah its Understandable for a World Almost Empty of That Divine Ingredient.

Love.

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However, on further study one finds that no one can be sure of being saved in the religion of Islam. Therefore, if there is no guarantee of salvation in Islam, what then is the hope those who rigorously follow Muhammad's Qur'an with such uncertainties of their eternal future?

No One who RIGOROUSLY follows the Quran has any uncertainty in their future.

unfortunately,a lot of us allow shaitan to make bad deeds fair seeming. you say were a muslim .you should know(for instance) that there are grave sins in islam. Taking other gods, Adultery, accusing chaste women falsely, using the funds of orphans for yourself, lying in the name of Allah.( i do not recall all the sins). i know several people who have said 'Walahi, i did not do it!' when they actually did. this is a simple example of a muslim unconciously commiting a great sin. there are several. Particularly in the times we live in.We do not always say our prayers, we keep money in banks, etc. obviously, human beings are weak. Human beings do not keep score of their good deeds against their bad deeds.

So yes, muslims who do not rigorously follow the Quran are not guaranteed Paradise. Allah does not provide 'get out of hell free' cards. ignorance of the law in the world we live in is not an excuse.why should it be any different in eternity?

@ nossycheek

wow! you were in the north for a year! and you were not Molested, beaten, butchered or killed? what did you do, wear a hijab? since you and your friends would want us to beleive all muslims are savages( sort of like the oprah-419 thread, where posters are accusing all ibos of being unsavory characters. you do realise there's no difference between you and them, don't you?)

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Just a narration of your rituals does not guarantee salvation

DID M'MED SAID WHERE HE WILL BE?

It is because you lacked knowledged that is why you are misplacing both. Who said Muslims avoids alcohol when they enjoy doing that especially secretly. Strong odour? who wears perfumes meant for corpses but you guys. Talking  of ablution, that is more or less physical, for us Christians, we are after spiritual cleaniness (Holiness), without which no one can see God.

The name given to your false religion does not matter, what matters is that Jesus is the way, the truth and the LIFE. No one cometh to the father except by HIM

You have not said anything concrete about salvation but a story of your prayer rites. How can you change, when you keep on using bad deeds to overwrite good deeds and vice versa.

Islam is nothing but the wide gate - ANYTHING GOES.

FORNICATION IS ALLOWED - NOT ALLOWED IN CHRISTIANITY (ABLUTION OR NO ABLUTION)

ADULTERY ALLOWED - ADULTERERS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD

SMOKING OF GANGA IS HIGHLY CARRIED - NO WAY IN CHRISTIANITY

PRETENCE IS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL (THEY ARE SEXUALLY PERVERSED) - OUR GOD KNOWEST THE SECRETS

MURDER IS HIGHLY CARRIED - NO BLOOD STAINED HAND WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM

HATRED IS PERMITTED UNLIKE CHRISTIANITY WHERE WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO LOVE EVEN OUR ENEMIES

What of making of Charms and amulets?

When Jesus Christ shed his blood on the cross, it was not the blood of a martyr; or the blood of one man for another; it was the life of God poured out to redeem the world.

Forget about your hatred for the Jews because they killed M'med and embrace Christ, he alone can free you from your enslavery called Islam

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@mukina2,

Okay, as you may. However, could you elaborate and perhaps deal with the issue of Muhammad's doubts towards the end of his life?

Thanks.

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In Islam there are two ways to get paradise:

1. Your good deeds are weighed against your bad deeds. If you have done enough good deeds when compared to your bad deeds, you will eventually get to paradise, after spending some time burning in the fires of hell.

2. Muslims who die as martyrs defending Islam go directly to paradise.

It is plain to see that in Islam salvation is a result of your works. You may have also noticed that all Muslims, except those who die as martyrs defending Islam, go to hell. This is clearly stated in the Koran, Sura 19, verses 67-68 and 71-72.

(This is Allah speaking through his prophet Muhammad.) "There is not one among you who shall not pass through hell; such is the absolute decree of your Lord. We will deliver those who fear Us, and leave the wrongdoers there, on their knees." (Sura 19:71-72)

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Does Islam guarantee death? YES

Does Islam guarantee abundance of women for sexual pleasure? YES

Does Islam guarantee foolishness? YES

Does Islam guarantee stupidity? YES

Does Islam guarantee wanton destruction of lives and property? YES

Does Islam guarantee Salvation after death? NO

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I didn't even have the patience to read all the term paper.

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again blabs787 keeps going round in circles saying precisely nothing.

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@babs787,

After all that theory, did Muhammad know what Allah would to to HIM after death? Was he sure of his own salvation and that of the many Muslims who followed his religion?

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@pilgrims

Thanks for the question. You have raised a very good question in which some lazy muslims do not understand how salvation is being attained in Islam and as a result are being led astray by Christians, telling them that it is only through the blood of jesus Christ that man can have salvation. You wouldn’t have understood Islam if I have given you one or two verses on salvation in Islam, so I have tried backing the topic with verses pertaining to worship as the only act of salvation and also make you understand Islam from the area of worship.

I want you to know that there is no salvatin for you as long as you remain a non-muslim. Salvation can be found only in Islam. It is the religion of nature and the only religion that Allah recognizes and going to accept from mankind.

Quran 3 v 85: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of those who have lost.

Q[b]uran 3 v 91;Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in th Ayat (proofs, evidences, signs, revelations etc) of Allah, then surely, Allah is swift in caling to account.[/b]

Other religions derive their names after their leaders eg chris – Christian, budha – budhaism, tao – Taoism, sango – onisango, oshun – oloshun etc but the name Islam is given by Allah thus:

Quran 5 v 3 …This day! I have perfected your religion, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.

Quran 22 v 78: …It is he who named you Muslims both before and in this (the Quran), that the Messenger (Muhammed saw) may be a witness over you and you be witness over mankind.

Salvation is found alone by being a muslim. There is nothing as good as sleeping as muslim in the night and waking up as a muslim in the following morning. The Holy Prophet said that all muslims will enter paradise except those that refuse. When asked that who are those that will refuse? He said those that will refuse are those that do not follow the Quran and the Sunnah.

There is a saying in Yoruba Language that, “If a woman does not try two husbands, she will never know which is better out of the two”. I have put the religions into test and can confidently tell you that there is neither a religion tat is complete, perfected, detailed and straightforward as Islam, nor there is any holy Book that is as holier, accurate, complete, detailed, touches every aspect of life, straightforward etc as the Holy Quran.

I do think at times and give praises to Allah for making me pass through Christianity foundation, because without that, maybe I wouldn’t be having the opportunity of weighing the two and choosing the truth as I have done. I then concluded that Allah at times, make someone first come across wrong people, things, religion etc and that when he comes across the right one, he will be appreciative.

In getting salvation, one need to first understand why man is created. I have perused the bible from Genesis to Revelation and did not find it anywhere ‘for what purpose is man created’ ‘why does man exist’ or ‘the essence of creation’. Allah tells us in the Holy Quran thus:

Quran 51 v 56: And I (Allah) created not the Jinn and mankind except that they should worship me (alone).

From the above verse, it can be seen that Allah created us solely for the purpose of worshipping Him, meaning that you cannot get salvation without worshipping Him which is the essence of creating mankind. The next question is how do we worship Him? we worship Him only through Solat (Prayer)

Quran 4 v 103: When you have finished As-Salat (the congregational prayer), remember Allah standing, sitting down, and (lying down) on your sides, but when you are free from danger, perform As-Salat, verily As-Salat (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours.

Quran 24 v 56: And perform As-Salat (the prayer) and give Zakat and obey the Messenger that you may receive mercy.

Quran 5 v 6: O you who believe! When you intend to offer As-Salat (the prayer), wash your faces and your hands (forearms) up to the elbows, rub (by passing wet hands over) your heads, and (wash) your feet up to the ankles. If you are in a state of Janabah ( i.e after a sexual discharge), purify yourselves (bathe your whole body). But if you are ill or on a journey, or any of you comes after answering the call of nature, or you have been in contact with women (i.e sexual intercourse), and you find no water, then perform Tayammum with clean earth and rub therewith your faces and hands. Allah does not want to place you in difficulty, but He wants to purify you, and to complete His favour to you that you may be thankful.

# The superiority of ablution, and Al-Ghurr-Ul-Muhajjalun (the parts of the body of the Muslims washed in ablution will shine on the Day of Resurrection and the Angels will call them by that name) from the traces of ablution

# Narrated Nu’aim Al-Mujmir: Once I went up the roof of the Mosque along with Abu Hurrairah (RA). He performed ablution and said, ‘I heard the prophet (saw) saying, “on the Day of Resurrection, my followers will be called Al-Ghurr-Ul-Muhajjalun from the traces of ablution and whoever can increase the are of his radiance should do so (by performing ablution in the most perfect manner)

# The prophet did not increase the area more than what is washed of the body parts while doinbg ablution as Allah ordered to be washed in the Quran.

Tayammum: Strike your hands on the earth and then pass the palm of each on the back of the other and then blow off the dust from them and then pass (rub) them on your face.

Quran 2 v 238: Guard strictly ( five obligatory) As-Salawat (the prayers) especially the middle solat (i.e the best prayer – Asr). And stand befor Allah with obedience (and do not speak to others during the Salat (prayer).

Quran 11 v 114: And perform As-Slat at the two ends of the day and in some hours of the night (i.e the five compulsory solat. Verily, the good deeds remove the evil deeds (i.e small sins), that is a reminder (an advice) for the mindful (those who accept advice)

# Narrated Ibn Mas’us (RA). A man kissed a woman and then came to Allah Messenger and told him that. So this Divine Revelation was revealed to the prophet “the good deeds remove the evil deeds (i.e small sins), that is a reminder (an advice) for the mindful (those who accept advice)”. The man said, ‘is this instruction for me only? The prophet said, ‘it is for all those of my followers who encounter a similar situation’

#Narrated Abu Dhar (RA) Allah’s Messenger said to me (a) be afraid of Allah and keep your duty to Him wherever you may be (b) and follow up the evil deeds with the good deeds, verily, the good deeds remove (blot out) the evil deeds (c) and (treat) behave with the people in a high standard of character.

Quran 17 v 78: perform As-Salat from Mid-day till the darkness of the night (i.e the Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib, Isha prayers) and recite the Quran in the early dawn (i.e the morning prayer). Verily the recitation of the Quran in the early dawn is ever witnessed (attended by the angels in chsrge of mankind of the day and night)

V 79: and in some parts of the night (also) offer the solat (prayer) with it (i.e rcite the Quran in the prayer), as an additional prayer (Thajjud optional prayer) for you (O Muhammed saw). It may be that your Lord will raise you to a station of praise and glory i.e th honour of intercession on the Day of Resurrection.

(a)

Narrated by Ibn Umar: On the Day of Resurrection, the people will fall on their knees and every nation will follow their prophet and they will say, o-so-and-so! Intercede (for us with Allah)”, till the (right of) intercession will be given to the Prophet (saw) and that will be the day when Allah will raise him to a station of praise and glory i.e the honour of intercession

(Here ignorant Christians accuse the Prophet of not knowing where he will be on that Day)

(b)

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah. Alla’s Messenger said, ‘whoever after listening to the Adhan (call for the prayer) says, ‘O Allah, the Lord of the complete call and of this prayer, which is going to be established. Give Muhammed Al-Wasilah and Al-Fdilah and raise him to a station of intercession for him on the Day of Resurrection.

Al-Wasilah is the highest position in Paradise which is granted to the prophet Muhammed particularly. Al-Fadilah is the extra degree of honour which is bestowed in him above all creation.

Quran 20 v 30: So bear patiently (O Muhammed) what they say, and glorify the praises of your Lord before the rising of the sun, and before its setting, and during some hours of the night, and at the ends of the day (an indication for the five compulsory congregational prayers) that you may become pleased with the reward which Allah shall give you.

Quran 2 v 277: Truly, those who believe and do deeds of righteousness and perform As-Salat and give Zakat, they will have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear , nor shall they grieve.

Quran 8 v 2: The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, feel a fear in their hearts and when this verse (this Quran) are recited unto them, they (i.e the verses) increase their faith, and they put their trust in their Lord (alone)

V 3: who perfom As-Salat, spend out of what we have provided them.

V 4: It is they who are the believers in truth. For them are grade of dignity with their Lord, and forgiveness and a generous provision (paradise)

Quran 9 v 71: The believers, men and women, are helpers, supporters, friends, protectors of one another, they enjoin on the people Islamic monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do and forbid people from Polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden, they perform As-Salat and give Zakat, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have His mercy on them. Surely, Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

Quran 27 v 1-3; …These are the verses of the Quran and (it is) a Book (that makes things) clear.

V 2; A guide (to the Right Path) and glad tidings for thr believers (who believe in the oneness of Allah)

V 3: Those who perform As-Salat and give Zakat and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter (resurrectin, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell).

Quran 31 v 2-5; These are the verses of the Wise Book (the Quran)

V 3: A guide and a mercy for the good doers

V 4: Those who perform As-Salat and give Zakat and they have faith in the Hereafter with certainty.

V 5: Such are the guidance from their Lord, and such are the successful

Quran 4 v 103: …Salat is enjoined on all believers at fixed hours.

Muslim relates on the authority of Uthman (RA) that the prophet said, “whenever an obligatory solat-time comes to any Muslim, and he carries out his ablution, his humility and his bowing properly, these things atone for all his previous sins [with the exception of mortal ones], and this holds true for all time.

After faith in God, which releases one from unbelief, there is no act of worship finer and mor exalted than the solat, the abandonment of which God’s messenger termed unbelief.

Quran 3 v 31: Say (O Muhammed saw) to mankind, ‘If you (really) love Allah, then follow me (i.e Islamic monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, most Merciful.

Quran 2 v 186: And when my slaves ask you (O Muhammed) concerning me, thn (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by my knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey me and believe in Me, so that thy may be led aright.

# Narrated Abu Hurrairah: Allah’s Messenger said, ‘ I will declare war against him who shows hostility to a pious worshipper of mine. And the most beloved things with which my slaves come nearer to me, is what I have enjoined upon him, and my slaves keep on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him. Then I become his sense of hearing with which he hears and his sense of sigh with which he sees and his hand with which he asks for my protection (refuge). I will protect him (i.e give him my refuge) and I do not hesitate to do anything as I hesitate to take the soul of the believer, for he hates death and I hate to disappoint him.

Quran 8 v 29: O you who believe! If you obey and fear Allah, He will grant you Furqan (criterion to judge between right and wrong) or Makhraj (i.e a way for you to get out from every difficulty) and will expiate for you your sins, and forgive you. And Allah is the owner of the Great Bounty.

In addition, Allah in some verses apart from the above, tells us the qualities of a believer and the reward for such a believer whch is paradise.

Quran 2 v 2-5: This is the Book (the Quran), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are the pious and righteous, who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which he has ordained)

V 3: Who belive in the Ghaub (unseen i.e Belief in Allah, Angels, Holy Books, Allah’s Messengers, Day of Resurrection and All-Qadar) and perform As-Salat and spend out of what we have provided for them (i.e give Zakat, spend on themselves, their parents, children, wives etc and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah’s cause – Jihad)

V 4: And who believe in (the Quran and th Sunnah) which has been sent down to you (the Torah and the Gospels) and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell).

V 5: They are in (true) guidance from their Lord, and they are the successful!

Quran 33 v 47: And announce to the believers (in the oneness of Allah and in His Messenger) the glad tidings, that they will have from Allah a Great Bounty.

From the above verses, it is seen that there is no paradise for a non-muslim and the only way you can gain salvation/paradise is be becoming a muslim. In all honesty, it will be very hard for muslims to enter hell and very easy for them to go to paradise. In solat alone, you have 27 times reward in a congregational prayer, we pray 5 times daily (excluding the Nawafil) which is supposed to be 50 daily prayers but Muhammed (saw) got it reduced by Allah from 50 to 5 through Moses. Allah then said that the reward for the 5 daily prayers will be the reward for the 50 prayers given earlier. Now using human calculation, we have 50 (27 x number of rewards per day), and we still have superogatory prayers too in which only Allah knows how He will calculate the reward.

Every man has two angels, one by his right and the other by his left. If he does a good deed, the angel on the right hand rushes and write it for him as 10 deeds, while if the man does a bad deed, Allah grants him time to repent until the scribe register the sin in his name. The prophet said, ‘the scribe on the left hand delays registering the sin of a Muslim for six hours. If he repents (within the six hours) and seeks Allah’s forgivennes, the sin is dropped off. If he doesn’t, it is written down for him as a single sin”. But even if it is registered, if the man repents sincerely before that hour (appearance of death), the sin is taken off the records then.

Furthermore, we have the branches of faith too in which the highest and the best is to declare thatthere is no god but Allah and the lowest is to remove something harmful from the road. Shyness too is a branch of faith.

Muslims relates hadith on the authority of Uthman ibn Affan, ‘whoever dies knowing that there is no deity but Allah shall enter into Paradise.

This may of course, be after a period of punishment in Hell, in proportion to one’s sin]

it is God’s will that all people shall have the possibility of salvation, He has sent Prophets to every nation

Quran 13 v 77: For every nation there has been a guide

Quran 35 v 24: There is not a single community among whom a warner has not passed.

We do not know about all of them but

Quran 4 v 164: Some Messengers, we have spoken to you, and others we haven’t

As time passes, the original message of each prophet is distorted or lost entirely, and it becomes necessary for a new prophet to appear. Since Islam is the last religion, God has preserved its message from corruption: the doctrines, social attitudes, and methods of worship which Muslims recognize today are the same as those taught by the prophets.

I have talked on the reward for Solat, and believing in the oneness of Allah, so I will now move to Zakat

Quran 98 v 5: They were enjoined only to worship Alah, sincere in their faith in Him alone and of upright religion and to establish the Solat and the Zakat. Such is the upright religion.

# For anyone why pays Zakat on his asstes, he will be removed from the evil in thm (purify their wealth)

# I swear upon three things: Allah does not equate one who has a portion in Islam with one who does not. The portions are prayer; fasting and Zakat.

The cornerstone of the Islamic economic system is the Zakat. In an authentically Muslim society, the level of government intervention is insignificant by comparison with the situation under secular materialism, whether socialist or capitalist, since a society whose members know that they are answerable to God is largely self-regulating, spontaneous charity, channeled particularly through the family structure, renders poverty and homelessness a rarity. Nonetheless, the small levy called Zakat is taken from certain categories of liquid and investment assets, to provide for those whose families are for whatever reason – unable to support them. These funds are also used for purposes such as the liberation of slaves, and returning impoverished travelers to their countries of origin.

On fasting

Whoever fasts in the month of Ramadhan, obeying all of its limitations and guarding himself against what is forbidden, has in fact atoned for any sins he committed before it.

Whoever fasts in the month of Ramadhan with faith and seeks Allah’s pleasure and reward will have his previous sins forgiven

Muslims fast on Mondays because the prophet do fast on Mondays, it’s the day he was born and there is reward for fasting on that day.

Muslims fast on Thursdays too because the prophet fasts on Thursdays, it’s the day he received salvation, etc and there is reward for it.

Also during the month of Ramadhan, there is a particular night called Night of Majesty in which the Holy Quran was revealed. Any action done therein is better than 1,000 months. So if you are able to witness that day, that day alone is enough for you to gain paradise because you may not be able to do any deeds that will have the same reward as the 1,000 months. Besides there is no assurance that one may live up to 1,000 months with his/her present age.

In addition, fasting for 6 days in the month of Shaban (the month after Ramadhan) will be like you have fasted for a year and earn reward for same.

On pilgrimage to Mecca

The reward for Hajj is Paradise.

Hajj removes all sins committed before and returns someone as a new born baby.

We also learnt that all the prophets right from to the last prophet (saw) came with one religion, one message which is the Islam and ones of Allah. Let us ask ourselves a question: can God give two prophets two different religions? No far from that, Allah made it known that all the prophets came with the same religion which is Islam. Their coming and going is like a baton in which a prophets takes over from another with the same message.

Quran 42 v 13: He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islamic monotheism) which He ordained for Noah, and that which we have revealed to you (O Muhammed saw) and that which we ordained for Abraham, Moses, and Jesus saying YOU SHOULD ESTABLISH RELIGION (i.e to do what it orders you to do practically) AND MAKE NO DIVISIONS IN IT (religion)

Quran 2 v 130: And who turns away from the religion of Abraham (Islamic monotheism) except him who befols himself. Truly, we chose him in this world and verily in the Hereafter, he will be among the righteous.

V 131: When His Lord said to him, ‘submit (i.e be a muslim). He said, ‘I have submitted myself (as a muslim) to the Lord of the mankind, jinn and all that exists.

V 132: And this (submission to Allah, Islam) was enjoined by Abraham upon his sons and by Jacob (saying), ‘o my sons! Allah has chosen for you the (true) religion, then die not except in the faith of Islam (as muslims)

V 135: And they say, ‘be jews or Christians, then you be guided’. Say (to them O Muhammed saw), ‘nay, (we follow) only the religion of Abraham (Islam) to worship none but Allah and he was not one of the Mushrikin.

V 136: Say (O Muslims), ‘we believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and to Al-Asbat (the offspring of the twelve sons of Jacob) and that which has been given to Moses and Jesus and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord, WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ANY OF THEM and to Him we have submitted (IN ISLAM).

Quran 3 v 83: Do they seek other than the religion of Allah (Islam) while in Him submitted all creatures in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly. And to Him shall they all be returned.

V 84: Say (O Muhammed saw), ‘we believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the offspring of the tweve sons of Jacob and what was given to Moses, Jesus and the Prophets from their Lord. WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ONE ANOTHER AMONG THEM and to Him 9Allah) we have submitted (in Islam).

So my sister, it is seen that salvation can only be achieved by being a muslim, following the pillars and believe in the articles of faith. We have seen that all the prophets came with only one religion which is Islam. Islam is the only religion that touches every aspect of life and Quran is the only book that did same too. Muhammed is the last and the seal of all prophets in which no prophet will come after him and no book will be revealed after him.

Quran 33 v 40: Muhammed (saw) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the prophets. And Allah is Ever-All Aware of everything.

Jesus hangs Christians with a verse but they will never understand the meaning.

Mathew 7 v 13-14: Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell iswide and the road that leads to it is easy and there are many who travel it. But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it.

Satan knows that it is very hard for him to turn people away from Allah by telling them that there is no God, so he is using Christianity as a trap in misleading people. There is nothing special in being’born again’, you just believe that jesus died for you and continue doing good deeds (probably). Christianity is the wide road that leads to hell because you experience no hardship being a christian, no solat, no ablution, fasting in not compulsory, you don’t have to pray five times daily, you don’t need to purify yourself, etc, just believe and you are saved. But Islam is the narrow gate which few people are entering. In Islam, you have to avoid alcoho, strong odour, purify yourself, ablution before you can worship him etc. If not for the grace of God, Islam seems hard to practice and that is why it is the narrow gate that leads to salvation and few are practicing it while Christianity is the wide gate that leads to hell and people are going in large numbers.

So sister, a word is enough for the wise, do not be deceived, truth stands from falsehood. No Islam, no Paradise.

Shalom

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