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How Can Islam Be A Religion Of Peace ?

The link below tell you what happened in Algeria :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7137997.stm

Is Islamic religion a complete threat to human existence ?

How can it a religion of peace ? When all they do is kill and kill.

What differentiates them from witches amd wizard who are so blood thirsty ? After killing all these people, will they give their prophet muhammed the blood to drink ?

May God save us from all these blood thirsty vampires who call themselves muslims.

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Islam does not mean peace. It means submission to the will of the rock god of Kabah (Allah). Islam is not the way out and will never be the way out. Without any prejudice, listen to people who are strong Islamist who gave their life to Jesus Christ.

God's words says : " Do not believe any spirit but test the spirit if they are from God ".

It is a common knowledge that Islam is from the devil. Islam is associated with mind-boggling IGNORANCE, DECEPTION, RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE, HATE, TERROR and UTTER STUPIDITY. That certainly is not from God.

People who are islamist are forced into that cult. God does not force people to follow him. When God created human being, he gave us the free will to follow him or not to follow him.

Muhammed (Muslim role model) commit acts of treason, deception and murder. Muhammed was NEVER a prophet !.

In all seriousness olabowale, Pray that God should show you direct you to the right path.

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@dexmond; « #52 on: Yesterday at 11:38:04 AM »

Now call us submitter to the will of the rock god of Kabbah, or moon god, neither changes the fact!

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@Leyla

My dear, it would have been a wonderful world if Islam did not teach aggression against non-believer. Have you asked this question.

Why are the budhist not killing others in the name of keeping to the teachings of their book.

What about others?

It is only the quran that expressly gave orders to kill the mushkirun. Jesus said love your neigbours as yourself, Muhammed said, fight them until they submit and pay the tax!

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@Olabowale :

Islam does not mean peace. It means submission to the will of the rock god of kabbah (Allah)

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@Olrotimi: On Yahoo, this morning, They had a young Muslim Girl holding a ram as the picture of the week. The story told about this picture was the slaughter rite that the Muslims just celebrated. It was a commemoration of the commandment of God on Ibrahiim in his dream. He was asked to Sacrifice his son Ismail. Even the News people have the brain to at least acknowledge that it was Ismail and not baby Isiaq.

The second story that caught my interest, was about the US service men and women in Iraq. There was this Muslim girl who is serving in Iraq. Then a larger group of Jews in deployment in Iraq as well. Then the Christians. The largest of the three religions by far. The Chaplain who was interview has this west African accent. Definitely not Nigerian. But what was said about the thou shall not kill of the, 'Christian law,' was the very interesting thing to me. It seems that the power of the country is greater than the power of God, because it is quickly reconcilable, that to carry out the agenda or mission of the Christian leadership mission, in the prosecution of the way, when its especially against Islam and Muslims, then it is okay to forget God's commandment for a moment.

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And you are sons of Isaac in this case? Or are you sons of Jacob? You tell me. If you say Isaac, the question is this did believe that it was Isaac who was to be slaughtered by Ibrahim? If your answer is yes, then we will ask you; why do you leave the celebration to the Muslims, who are sons of Ismail? Except that if you truly thing deep in your heart, you will know that it could not have been Isaac! The right person was Ismail, and maybe thats why the Jews who will jump at all chances to prove their claims as the chosen, and you the Christians who follow blindly in their deceit do not observe this great act of Mercy from God on both Ibrahim and the son, both people being obedient to the Command of the Great AUTHORITY! We see that First child can only be the only only child. There is no way it can belong to anyone born after! It is only in Jewish and Christian tradition that people lose their birth right by deceit! Ismail was not Essau and Alhamdulillah, Ibrahim was not blind! And no one reported that Ismail was an evil man. And his Children did not deceive one another as Jocob did to his own brother Essau and in gaining good yeilding livestocks at the expense of other, in the country where he seeked asylum. We do not have arrogance in Ismail's Children as we have in Jacob, who they said Struggle with God and man, and he over both of them! This is pure madness!

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1. One of the witness to Islam's denial of Christ's death is Jesus Himself, and he will come and testify that he was not killed

2. The Injil and Torah were hidden long time ago, and we are told to believe that it was revealed but not as you take it (to firmly believe in it, so it is not a mistake/error when we said "We believe that the Injil and Taurat was revealed by Almighty Allah" So, it does not bother us whether it is there or not,  All Guidance is in the Holy Qur'an

3. No, Almighty Allah did not say that ALL Muslims are inheritors of Hell Fire, a Muslim that believe in One God, and believe in the Message that Prophet Muhammad was sent with (Qur'an), and follow the Sunnah of the Prophet accordingly, you will never taste the Hell. But if you say you are a Muslim but act like a pagan, i.e. does not do anything that will give you good credits, you will of course enter Hell Fire

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@PTH- davidylan

What is it that you know so much?

Bible tells you but have you think about the authors of the so called book, whether they were inspired or not. I can see that you included letter of Paul as part of the revelation given to Jesus. Please did he know Jesus before his death and to refreshen your memory, he contradicted himself in two verses where he first said that only him heard thje voice but others did not and in another place, he lied that they heard him (sorry i didnt give you the verse cos u understood where i am going).

Please was Jesus crucified or hangeth on a tree?

Can you share some of the thousand witnesses with me? Let me awaken you from your slumber, go to your bible and you would read that none of his disciples witnessed the drama, they all stood from afar and watched.

Please, when was he crucified and was it in Jerusalem or outside Jerusalem?

Who are referring to as witnesses? Did the the gospellers witness the incident and please are you saying the penned down story is the same as the revelation given to Jesus?

Really, thou shall not lie

Now brother, you and your folks ignored those I served you in which early edition omitted some verses while later edition inserted same. Please if they have been writing the bible with inspiration, there shouldnt have been any sort of omittion and later addition.

Brother even in the very bible you may be holding now, I will still show you missing verses therein and if I may ask you, why do you choose to go about with incomplete book of God when you know that the book is incomplete, why not go for the complete book.

Let me have the version and the year of the bible you are having with you and I will show you missing verses from same and will also let you know that no two versions are the same despite the fact that they are all claiming to have writing same through inspiration.

He is still davidylan

You cant deny the fact that its corrupt and you have been served evidence that its corrupt, tampered with.

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another rambling thesis from a man who is clearly roaming around in spiritual darkness.

Where are the witnesses to islam's denial of Christ's death?

Where is the injil and torah Allah sent down and confirmed since ours is corrupted?

Did Allah not say by a hatman decree that ALL muslims are meant to go down into hell?

Those are three clear questions that deserve an answer. Rather you prefer to dance around them with long sentences.

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You make me laugh in your responses on the corruptions of the Bible and the Hatman decree. It shows that you still have that zeng in you, but I notice the fire is a little bit down. The hatman decree says that those who are God conscious will be saved, without tasting Hellfire. That is different from your bllanketed statement to the contrary. You know you did not tell the truth and you ain't gonna rattle me. Am too cool for that.

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Finally, I can deal with you in your desired language. Please respond.

It is Allahu Akbar!

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PTH,

Trying to reason with alhaji olabowale is futile. He is not a man of his word and I have decided not to engage him in a spirited debate. He (and some muslims on his forum) think christianity and islam is in some form of competition.

Thanks for your posts, they were enlightening. May the good Lord continue to give you more wisdom

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Alhaji, when next you quote remember to put your own responses OUTSIDE the quote tags.

Olabowale, you cant sit there telling us about what you dont know. You constantly leave urself open to ridicule anytime you try so hard to force christianity into the mould of islam. Perhaps it is a thing of shame for your non-existent "prophets" or those u borrowed from the bible to sufer such humiliating death but the bible tells me - Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Simply because Mohammed said so? Christ's death and resurrection had thousands of witnesses who also penned it down for our edification . . . where are the witnesses to islam's denial?

Either you did not understand my statements or u are dishonestly trying not to. Here is what i initially said . . . There have been several copies of the books of the bible found at various places and at different time periods . . . NOT ONE of those books has been found to be even subtly different from the bible we carry around.

You instantly struggle to bring up the RSV published in 1952. The RSV is simply an individual version of the original scrolls on which the bible was written in earlier times. The dead sea scrolls contain the original books of the bible written thousands of yrs ago and not just in 1952. They contain John 3:16. . . anybody can wake up tomorrow and publish "David's Revised Bible" and choose to remove the entire book of Genesis. It does not make the original scrolls corrupt!

Yep we've heard that a million times. . . what's new? Where is the injil and torah all sent down and confirmed? Bring it first before you start crying about a corrupt bible. Where you not the same person reading mohammad into Isaiah 53?

It is also a hatman decree, all muslims will go down into hell. Allah himself has guaranteed it in Sura 19:71.

The rest of your drivel is regurgitated old news.

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allahu arched bar?

Olabowole has finally learnt to qoute

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In certain ways yes. . . but the fundamental message of the bible remains clear - it points to one singular event, the death on the cross and the subsequent resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Islam flatly denies this.

There have been several copies of the books of the bible found at various places and at different time periods . . . NOT ONE of those books has been found to be even subtly different from the bible we carry around. The idea that the message of God has been "misinterpreted" was mohammed's way of forcing islam down the throats of the weak minded who could not do any form of independent research of their own.

You are right. However the problem here is that blood transfusions really have nothing to do with being a christian or not. No where in the bible are we told that blood transfusions are wrong . . .

As Nwando pointed out, christianity is a way of life not a system of archaic rules and regulations. It is more interested in your spiritual health and relationship with God than whether you decide against giving blood to ur neighbour.

the first step in misunderstanding christianity is to assume it is a religion. It is not.

What God expects of us as christians is boldly written in our scriptures, we are to love our enemies and do good to those who despitefully use us. . .

when people make the above statement in highlights, it is more often that not a sly way of repeating the tired old mantra that the bible is corrupt. Mohammed never wrote down the quran, rather it was passed down by oral tradition. Even the hadith makes us understand that at some point mohammed himself forgot some revelations and had to be reminded . . . besides many of his trusted lieutenants perished in battle thus losing a critical part of the "revelations" they had commited to memory . . .

why then do muslims assume that the quran could not have become distorted with time? Rather they spend so much time vilifying the bible that had been copied faithfully on parchments and handed down from generation to generation.

As early as the time of Moses we know that the laws of God were preserved in written form.

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Sweetie pie,you are right Religion and religiousity will do nothing for man

True Christianity is not just a way of life.

It's life itself

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In answer to the last post.

The same God has not given different messages -no. In fact (it is my opinion) that the message of God in many many cases has been misinterpreted to meet man's own need and requirement.

Religion is man made, lets remembers that.

Here is an example:

A Jehova Witness will not allow him/herself to be given a blood transfusion because they believe that God's word in the Bible states that they must not allow a 'foreign substance' to enter their body. They believe blood to be a 'foreign substance'.

Ask the same Jehovah Witness then if they will eat steak 'underdone' cooked with blood in it and then eat it. They will say yes, they will eat it.

But THAT blood from the cow is entering your body, how can that be allowed in your religion? I have yet to be answered logically.

Here is a prime example of misinterpretation.

This is a huge subject, religion causes wars, hatred and killing-how can we talk of religion as God,s true word? Surely this is not what God expects of us?

I believe we each need to find our own truth, make sense of it and try to live by it.

Religion is supposed to offer us guidance on how to lead a good life.

In respond to another statement from the last post-there can never be a messanger described as a 'mere' messanger.

A messanger is someone who delivers a message and God's word is the most precious of messages than can be delivered.

Unfortunately, it seems to be like a game of 'chinese whispers', where along the years the message is misheard so much until becomes a message quite different fro the original one!

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It is not enough to just parrot the weather-beaten propaganda that your imams have used over the centuries to decieve you.

Take a good read of the bible, quran and torah . . . do they all convey THE SAME MESSAGE?

while the bible and jewish torah (which is also part of the bible, OT) point to Christ's death, resurrection and ultimate message of redemption, the quran flatly denies this claiming that Jesus Christ DID NOT DIE but was a mere messenger.

Now comes the puzzle; can the same God be sending two clearly different messages at the same time?

It is funny that the idea of "the bible, torah and quran being from the same "god" is mainly championed by muslims. True christians do not deny this because they hate muslims but because it is a clear and incontrovertible fact.

Muslims should endeavour to think for themselves, the era of mindlessly repeating the same high sounding but meaningless words all in the name of political correctness and the struggle to make islam acceptable to the gullible is over.

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Can't you learn from Leylas father above who knew Christian schools had it going on.

make sure you don't send my nieces and nephews to a madrassa.

we will not have it

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@Focused.

You make me laugh (Don't laugh too much. Its a sign of poor faith. Be modest when you laugh. Don't behave like what Lagbaja wanted in his 'Feyin Music Video!

I have a feeling you know the truth, but you are delibrately choking the truth. (It is the truth that led and has kept me in Al Islam! Your Christian women are attraction, not because they are better looking, but because they are eager, for the most part display the Wares/Jewelries for you to see and if you are eager to take it for a spin, you are welcomed to do so. But I fear Allah Almighty and I hate to associate partnership with Him. I will not count a mere mortal, a Jew who only lived for 33 years, which I had surpassed since the early part of '80, as 1/3, when I have the wholesome Supreme being as MY RABB!

For anyone to know if something is from God, you have to test the spirit. So far Islamic spirit have been tried and tested, it shows it is from the kingdom of darkness. (Yet the Muslims says that they seek protection with Allah Almighty from the Accursed Satan (The darkness chief himself)! You dey play like playa too much!

(1) Propagating or spreading a religion with force or threat of force is certainly not from God. Human being are created to have choice either to do good or evil. All you can do is convince them with the word of God, and let God do the rest. You don't threatened them with death. Force can only work for a while, but convincing people, with the help of God last a life time. (So tell me what happened to Moses and his successor's destructions of so many city states in order to established the Israelite settlement after they were emancipated from Egypt, in the EXODUS of the Bible? That was from God or the devil? In Ijebu Ode, there was no story any forced conversion. So was the story of the Owo people in Ondo State. Whats happening now that the Igbo people are tripping over one another to enter Islam? Forced conversion is going on in today's Nigeria? Just ask Nwando, who is saddened that her Uncle is a Muslim! I am working hard to get into her head. InshaAllah, with her whole family, they will enter Islam. Amin! Now google and enter "Christian Missionary Atrocities." Come back and tell us who is using for, money, deceit in speech and deeds, military comparative advantage, etc?

(2) Promoting Hatred of other faiths (especially Christians, Jews and other religious beliefs) because they don't practise Islamic religion is not from God. God is love. (I pointed out to you the US General who spoke about his Christian God bigger than Muslim God. What about the US Attorney General after 911? These people and their statements, you conveniently shun. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (Thats for Davidylan and Nwando. Thanks guys.

(3) Aggressive violence is not from God. Vengeance is for God not for human beings. Why do muslims find it very hard to forgive and forget ? Certainly that religion is not from God. (Look around. Nations gathered together against who? Not Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, or any other. They gathered against Islam and the Muslims. Islam they will never be able to defeat. To do that you have a formidable FOE to deal with; Almighty Himself! The Muslims can easily be defeated because, we are not practicing as we should. When a Muslim has the gut to nickname himself, 'EVIL GENIUS,' we already know we are very far from the truth. However, Christianity is not a true religion of GOD. Just imagine if a good Christian were to become a Muslim? He or she will be better than God! Imagine a bad Muslim to become a Christian, he or she will be worse! That is the truth!

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let the holy word of God guide our actions, "Thou shall not use the name of thy God in vain", why pursue selfish and devilish acts using the name of God, remember, God himself gives us the choice to choose. Let people decide what they want rather than force them into what they dislike,

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What a smart man you were blessed with as a father.

He knew those Islamic schools would do his loving children no good.

Thank God for that great wife by his side.

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True muslim?? NO!!

you leyla are a reformist. your religion could do with a load of those now.

Or you are just a cafeteria muslim??

but for now, the true muslims reign, and you cannot fault them for not adhering to your religious manual.

you do not practice Islam the way your prophet preached.

You even attended a school for unbelievers.

You do not believe Islam makes a better person? ?

If you take your reformist views to true adherents of Islam, beheading shall become you for blasphemy.

before you remember to shout death to america!!!

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I am not a spokesperson for anyone, i am my own person with my own opinions that is all.

Fortunately i have been brought up by parents who wanted me to develop my own mind and my father was confident to send me to a christian school because he felt it was entirely appropriate to do so and he is a muslim.

The guidance i have recieved has been based on a true understanding of what believe is expected by me from God, as a sister, a neighbour, a friend etc.

My mother is a Christian and she is a good person, my father has never expected her to convert to Islam, why shoud she? She would not be a better person if she were Muslim.

There is no brainwashing in our home.

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I hear you,  I am not extreme. "extremeness" is a quality people like to attach to the true muslims.

I have muslim relatives. My mom was born into a muslim family (she was not forced to be one though, so she is not a muslim today).

I know muslims who believe in "peace" and yet are apologists of those terrorists in Palestine.

muslims who do not believe in jihad, religious killings, sharia etc. . are not true muslims.

I don talk am several times for this thread already.

you obviously do not believe in every single word in your book. you are picking what to believe.

I doubt you were sent to one of those koranic schools where they nod heads in hypnosis while reciting passages from the book (and its other evil subtexts) all day. That is why you know a world exists outside Islam and you have a different view from mohammed.

What are your beliefs about sharia, jihad and about other religions? they should conform with mohammed's if you are a true muslim

How many words of the Bible are muslims taught to believe? why don't they have Bible recitation schools for muslims? ?

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1. i have not accused you of being rude to me rather you have accused me of being rude and obtuse simply for giving an oppinion.

2. Again you go the default islamic mode of seeing "attacks" anytime we expose the fraud that islam is.

3. Not a single part of my posts has had anything with your personality, rather i have focused them on the misconceptions and lies that you have propagated about the bible and the very quotes from the quran that expose your shallow knowledge of the very religion you espouse.

4. It is not presumption to quote the quran and reference actual happenings around the world to buttress the fact that islam is far from a religion of peace.

Yes i know you dont but WHAT difference has that made? Do you assume you speak for the Bauchi muslims?

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Davidylan

Firstly i have not insulted you. You will not see a single adjective in my text that describes you in a rude way at all!

I'm not trying to make a difference on this forum, simply i am joining in on a discussion. You are quick to attack somebody and you know nothing of who i am and what i believe in, you are presuming to much. Again, again and again as i have said but you have missed i do not condone killing or the mistreatment of people.

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and the quran teaches that the bible is corrupted even when muslims cannot produce the torah and injil Allah claimed to have sent down and confirmed . . . and the quran denies the very foundation of the bible that is repeated from Genesis to Revelation - the death and resurrection of Christ . . .

How did the quran say you shld follow the bible? by destroying bibles in muslim nations and denying christian visitors to Saudi Arabia the right to go with the very same bibles you allege the quran teaches you to believe in?

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No where was i rude to you. Look at my last post, i made a prediction that you would revert to the islamic default mode of insults and seeing "rudeness" where it does not exist anytime the fraud called islam is laid bare.

I have been proven correct yet again.

That is your own private belief, sadly your quran believes nothing of the sort. The quran says not to take jews and christians for friends and cut off our necks when you get the chance . . . i do not make this up pls read your own quran so you dont see "obtuseness" and "insults" when we quote your quran back to you.

What you mean makes no shred of difference . . . it is irrelevant to those rioters in Bauchi or the vermins in Khartoum.

Islam as a religion of "peace"? Just take Darfur as an example of that "peace".

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*davidylan

Your post reflects not only that you have misinterpreted my replies, but that you are also being deliberately obtuse and rude. I can respect your opinion and you can respect mine without having to resort to bad manners.

I do not agree with killing, i believe in leading a peaceful life. Can i advise you to re-read my posts carefully instead of reading them and presuming i mean something else!

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*khai khai

Your opinions seem to be extreme by nature, that is unfortunate because mine are not!

Again the problem you are talking about is misinterpretation. The Quran also teaches followers to also believe in the bible.

I would like to state that i do not agree with extremism, please do not misunderstand me! I am of a Muslim father and Christian mother, so i have the benefit and privilege of seeing both sides!

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Those who are interpreting the koran to suit their own needs are those who do not believe in jihad, those who do not believe that mohammed's eventual aim is for this planet to be subjected to his Islam and sharia (and this is to be done by killings, deceit etc). Those of you who read the koran and skip the parts where you are told that I as an unbeliever should not be trusted or that as a muslim you must subject yourself whole heartedly to sharia. etc, 

If you are a muslim and don't believe in all these and the other evils in your book. you are an unbeliever(says your evil manual)  and I suggest you pick some other religion where suicide bombings and beheadings will never be considered

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*Leyla

Thanks for your contribution, obviously, they will never understand the way you will, the Qur'an has a concrete message for All Mankind, all the verses they are listing are words of God, you will see that they believe with what suits them, but they deny other messages that preach Peace, Love, Happiness.

People of Understanding always read to understand, people of the denial always read to deny and to let you know even if the Qur'an would have been fallen from the sky printed and minted, they will never believe, they will say it is a Magic, and that is how they will end with denial,  May the Almighty continue to Guide us and make us one of those that will be very close to Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) in the Paradise.

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Davidylan

Of course i do not believe that those who kill innocent civilians in the name of God are a reflection of peaceful Islam. My third point on my post gave reference to this!

To your second point and reply, i do not think we a disagreeing?

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*Tayo-D

Okay, your belief is that all the Qur'an was copied from different sources, including the Babylonian Talmud, okay, We Muslims believe 100% with its contents no matter where it was copied from, then what is your problem now with the Issue that the Verse (5:32) was copied from somewhere else, as we are not talking of the genuinity of the Holy Qur'an now, but to even prove you wrong, this is exactly what "Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin, 37a" Says;

HOW WERE THE WITNESSES INSPIRED WITH AWE? WITNESSES IN CAPITAL CHARGES30  WERE BROUGHT IN AND INTIMIDATED [THUS]: PERHAPS WHAT YE SAY IS BASED ONLY ON CONJECTURE, OR HEARSAY, OR IS EVIDENCE FROM THE MOUTH OF ANOTHER WITNESS, OR EVEN FROM THE MOUTH OF A TRUSTWORTHY PERSON: PERHAPS YE ARE UNAWARE THAT ULTIMATELY WE SHALL SCRUTINIZE YOUR EVIDENCE BY CROSS EXAMINATION AND INQUIRY? KNOW THEN THAT CAPITAL CASES ARE NOT LIKE MONETARY CASES. IN CIVIL SUITS, ONE CAN MAKE MONETARY RESTITUTION35  AND THEREBY EFFECT HIS ATONEMENT; BUT IN CAPITAL CASES HE IS HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS BLOOD [sc. THE ACCUSED'S] AND THE BLOOD OF HIS [POTENTIAL] DESCENDANTS UNTIL THE END OF TIME, FOR THUS WE FIND IN THE CASE OF CAIN, WHO KILLED HIS BROTHER, THAT IT IS WRITTEN: THE BLOODS OF THY BROTHER CRY UNTO ME: NOT THE BLOOD OF THY BROTHER, BUT THE BLOODS OF THY BROTHER, IS SAID — i.e., HIS BLOOD AND THE BLOOD OF HIS [POTENTIAL] DESCENDANTS. (ALTERNATIVELY, THE BLOODS OF THY BROTHER, TEACHES THAT HIS BLOOD WAS SPLASHED OVER TREES AND STONES.) FOR THIS REASON WAS MAN CREATED ALONE, TO TEACH THEE THAT WHOSOEVER DESTROYS A SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, SCRIPTURE IMPUTES [GUILT] TO HIM AS THOUGH HE HAD DESTROYED A COMPLETE WORLD; AND WHOSOEVER PRESERVES A SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, SCRIPTURE ASCRIBES [MERIT] TO HIM AS THOUGH HE HAD PRESERVED A COMPLETE WORLD. FURTHERMORE, [HE WAS CREATED ALONE] FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE AMONG MEN, THAT ONE MIGHT NOT SAY TO HIS FELLOW, 'MY FATHER WAS GREATER THAN THINE, AND THAT THE MINIM MIGHT NOT SAY, THERE ARE MANY RULING POWERS IN HEAVEN; AGAIN, TO PROCLAIM THE GREATNESS OF THE HOLY ONE, BLESSED BE HE: FOR IF A MAN STRIKES MANY COINS FROM ONE MOULD, THEY ALL RESEMBLE ONE ANOTHER, BUT THE SUPREME KING OF KINGS, THE HOLY ONE, BLESSED BE HE, FASHIONED EVERY MAN IN THE STAMP OP THE FIRST MAN, AND YET NOT ONE OF THEM RESEMBLES HIS FELLOW. THEREFORE EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS OBLIGED TO SAY: THE WORLD WAS CREATED FOR MY SAKE.

As you have seen it in the above; it is ascribed to SINGLE SOUL OF ISRAEL, So single Soul of America, or single soul of Nigeria, or single soul of Iraq is not included in the context, right? And then, it is clearly seen here that even if it is message sent to Prophet Moses or other Prophet, it is the same God that sent message to them, that sent it to Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W), all their words are from one single God, so why look for the difference? But to my own opinion I think the above context was proclaimed by somebody but not Moses himself, or he said something similar to what is in (Quran 5:32) but they change it to their own, because the Verse in the Qur'an is not talking of killing of the Soul of Israel, but all Human Beings, so which one will you follow? The one that portrait its mercy to its ownself only or to the one that portraits its Mercy to All Mankind?

Islam denounces Terrorism, Suicide, Killings of Innocents, even if I will be giving 10 BILLION DOLLARS or millions of it, I will not kill one single soul, no matter what, but if I saw my self in a WAR, and my enemy attempts to KILL me, I will surely fight back,  (GOD PROTECT),  That is the Picture of all TRUE Muslim, TRUE and PROPER MUSLIMS will never KILL Human Being in any name,

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@Davidylan: My dear nephew. I would love to call you a son, but that will be

presumptuous of me. I really don't know howamiable you are to it all, since I

am a Muslim. I know how you dislike Islam.

But the point is this, I have responded to the matter of plagiarism that is such a

fish bone sticking your throat., making you bleed profusely. Listen you wanna

talk about it, there are over 6000 ayah in the Qur'an, how many is plagiarised?

Lets talk about it. There are 114 chapter, which one you wanna tackle first.

Lets be civilnabout it and not jumping all over the board. Line your people up.

InshaAllah, we will alleviate your concerns.

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You really believe the above politically correct misrepresentation of islam as a religion of "peaceful" adherents? Not even mohammed was peaceful.

Muhammad said : "No drop is more dear to Allah than two drops; a drop of tear shed in the fear of Allah, and a drop of blood shed in the path of Allah."

I'm sure he wasnt refering to chicken blood. Please let us know how it is possible to "peacefully" shed a drop of blood in the path of Allah.

Jesus Christ brought the message of redemption THROUGH THE CROSS. . . Islam categorically denies that Christ died for our sins, how then could mohammed claim to have come to complete the message of Jesus Christ? Just before Christ gave up the ghost on the cross He declared - IT IS FINISHED! What else did mohammed now come to complete?

The LIE about mohammed bringing the final message of Jesus is simply a fraud that islam uses to lend a cloak of legitimacy to itself. Outside the bible, remove the dishonest references to biblical prophets and all you have left is a demonic cult.

But Allah provides for drinking in "jaanat" . . . infact rivers flowing with liquor. What's the point forbiding it here on earth?

But anyone who reverts from islam MUST be killed eh?

what is the difference between 6 and half a dozen?

there are rivers flowing with liquor in heaven.

What about other religions . . .? Why is islam the only one with a problem of misconceptions?

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I'm new on here, but this caught my eye. In reply to original question, i believe Islam can be a religion of peace if the Quran is understood and interpreted as it should be.

Muslim religion has come after Christianity and to complete and deliver the message that Jesus had already started 500 years prior to Mohamed's message.

When you read the quran there are certain things i must point out.

1. Anything that might harm your body is forbidden i.e that means smoking, drinking, drugs etc.

2. If somebody kills a person by accident the quran says you must not take an eye for an eye but ask for compensation instead and be forgiving.

3 Quran forbids you from ending your life, but it allows you to sacrifice your life in a war situation. Civilians must not be targeted.

lets take the first point for example.

The reason why alcohol is forbidden, is because somebody might say "I'll drink one glass and I'm in control", the only problem is that one glass can lead to another and eventually you may loose control and therefore you could commit a crime. :crazy:

The problem is that in many places around the world people interprate the Muslim religion to suit their own need and not necessarily what the Quran dictates. This can lead to misconceptions and extremism.

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To start with, the word "christian" is derived from CHRIST and was given to the early disciples by those who saw them act and speak as Christ did. Read the book of acts before uttering yet more indefensible drivel.

Jesus Christ played no role in formulating the concept of christianity? Jesus Christ is the symbol of the christian life . . . without the cross there is no redemption, no salvation and no eternal life.

I find it hard not to call you a hypocrite. There is a thread on the issue of plagiarism that you have carefully avoided. Start from there.

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the name Islam being derived from the word peace is just a cover. .

it is part of the deceit which the religion encourages as part of Jihad. .

The koran by itself is a manual for war, deceit pillaging and all sort of evil. .

and the true muslims are the ones blowing up things/ slaughtering people all over the place

muslims are enjoined to conquer the world and make sure we all live by sharia

and the evil guide book for all this is the quran.

THE KORAN TEACHES MUSLIMS THEY MUST FIGHT AND KILL UNBELIEVERS :

WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

THE KORAN PROMISES MUSLIMS COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS THEREIN:

Sura 33 "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

THE KORAN TELLS MUSLIMS TO BE QUIET UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS TO START DEMANDING THEIR WAY IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED:

"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).

THE KORAN TELL MUSLIMS TO FIGHT- AND ALL INFIDELS MUST PAY TAXES TO THEM

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] , who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

THE KORAN TEACHES DECEIPT

Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.

THE KORAN TEACHES WORLD DOMINATION:

"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR Allah 2:193

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

no good will come from Islam. .

this nonsense going to continue for decades until their defeated convincingly in their silly jihad

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Suratual Azhab, verse clearly states that Muhammad is the father of any of you men,

Clearly, Muhammad lived in very early generation to have been my father. i am living

right now. Muhammad lived over 1400 years ago. If Muhammad is my father, then it is

a miracle that Muslims have not really acknowledged. But thanks for pointing it out to

us!

AS to Jesus, the last time I checked, Christianity only borrowed his name. Jesus himself

was not a Christian! He did not start the religion, and he had no role in formulating its

concept. Maybe TayoD wanted to say Saul who later became Paul, but Jesus was a more

presentable name anyway.

Please present your evidence, side by side so that we can compare the Verse 32 of

Surah 5, with your supposed plagiarised sources; Babylonian Talmud and the Mishnash?

And whoever call people bastards, and if they are truly not bastard, the statement will

actually return to the speaker as a curse.

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@auwal87,

As per the topic at hand, muslims who steal, kill and destroy have a good example in Mohammed. Christians who do that cannot ever point to Jesus Christ or His early disciples as their role models. So yo see, a Christian who steals, kills and destoy is obviously a bastard, while the muslim who does that is a real son of his father - Mohammed!

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Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc are not the problem, but the followers are the problem, in all these three major religions, killing outrightly is not allowed, for example in the Holy Qur'an, God Almighty says:

(Qur'an 5:32) For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

In this case, you will learn that of killing innocent human beings is totally not permitted in Islam, even the Suicide Bombers themselves are killing Innocent People, and so, they have rejected the above verse, and they are eventually not Muslims since they reject what Almighty Allah says while taking unproved Hadith as their backings to take Suicide.

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@ The Poster: Islam has its name derived from Salaam, meaning peace. And Silm

meaning complete entry. What is your point? Lets me quote what think may be acceptable

as statement of Jesus from the Bible: Physician heals thyself or remove the Timber (my own

wording) from your eye, before the speck on my eyelashes!

Go tackle the issue of Christian nations first, in their evilness against mankind and specifically

against Islam before you have the reason to talk about Islam. You see the Christian nations

having fair weathered friends; they use you to their satisfaction and throw you to the dustbin!

They are not judicial across the board! They protect even an evil leadership, it it helps to do

their biddings. They instigate the outright destructions of even a good leadership, if the leader

not dance to their own tunes!

Take a chill pill and chill out for a while!

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@pain :

Mention one of them if what you saying have any credibility

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Neither is "New Age Christianity" that employs Weapons of Mass Extortion and Deception.

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