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And please spare me the Ham, shem and Jahphet story in the bible. Anyone who believes that story is definitely delusional.

I am speaking on the basis of evolutionary evidence, climate and possibly what religion has got to say about it.

I for one have studied this and overwhelming evidence does point to climate and adaptation to ones enviroment and empirical evidience to why we have dark skin and our hair texture is as it is. How then do you have this silly Nigerian preacher continually preach the story of Noah and his threee sons. I heard a preach somep sundays ago preaching this rubbish and how we are cursed and now that curse is about to be broken in the new milenia.

Any intelligent person would deduce that it is virtually impossible for three men to spun the multitude of races that exist in the world today and the timing of the bible cannot support this 5000 years is not enough time to create these variances.

Please your two cents on this I am hoping to disprove this bogus interpretation from the bible and enlighten some so called christians.

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I don't know whether anyone has ever thought of what happened when god divided the language of the people at the Tower of Babel. Maybe God did not just divide their tongues but also their pigments. Well if not, I don't think God created whites or blacks separately. If the Bible story is true then all races are descendants of Noah.

When Esau was called red and hairy, it was definitely because his complexion was distinct from the ubiquitous appearance of his father's house and race, he looked different, with much hair unlike jacob and with red skin. We all know there are no specifically red skinned people today or white ,or brown or yellow, but red could be inferred to be close to lighter skin than what was previously obtained. Esau's generation would have produced a whole lots of red people in varieties because he inter married a lot.

I think to know the colour of the children of jacob is to know the colour of the Egyptians at the time because Joseph has the same pigment with them.

It doesn't matter who conducted researches and wrote books but this is the info age and we need to know the truth. Take for instance how could Oduduwa fall through a chain from the sky? Wasn't that to mean his descend was a mysterious event? We cannot just believe everything a man writes because he had a great deal of researched from oxford, we will be excluding the vital possibility of arrogated superiority pursuit which can influence findings.

I believe a chunk of west african people moved to their present location may be from east africa may be from Mesopotamia. I do know that the Yoruba people of west Africa do know about the Nimrod/Abraham story or they were part of it. Whether the Israelites were negro or not they definitely had spread into every existing genes in the world through inter marriage, captivity.

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In Genesis They talked about how one of the Rivers in the Garden of Eden flows around the land of Cush

Genesis 2

10 A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 And the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Cush.

Cush is Ethiopia!!!

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black people have always been here for over 66 trillion years every race came from the black man & woman 2 white people cannot make anything other than themselves you have never seen anything dark come from 2 white people. on the other hand 2 black people can make a lighter baby,the white race only have a 6,000 year history.if u need more info feel free to ask questions

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I don't think you guys even close to what happened black people were injected with black iron oxide fe 304. now for some of you using lightening cream/gel your need to be careful they are trying to make the black generation worst your kid gonna come out darker, no hair if u r using these product i suggest you to stop. they are trying to make a monkey come out of you these products are ,  REMEMBER us, as black people they don't like us. They keep on saying it's over , Cause they know what they have in store for us i'm gonna give you a little hint when you hear them talk saying (HARD CHOCOLATE/PLASTIC) IT MEANS THAT'S WHAT YOUR GETTING FROM THESE LIGHTENING CREAM/GEL , BELIEVE WHAT YOUR EYES JUST READ , CAUSE IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

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I wonder too cha, when you do research on greek mythology which was years and years before the bible you get bits that are also similar,

The bible was written by man anyway lol, If you research most ancient religion and beliefs you get the same thing they are all similar,

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lol @thread.

Seriously? Did you fail biology class?

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@Topic. Europeans came, sold us a huge pile of $hit. We loved it, jumped into it, rolled in it, ate it up, and loved every second of it -----> Voila, the African Negro!

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60% of the stories in the bible were plagiarized from Ancient Egyptian mythology. For instance, the Ten commandment was copied word for word from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. The story of "Moses crossing the Red sea" was derived from folktales told by ancient Egyptian thousands of years before Abraham. The story was  attributed to a powerful  Egyptian Magician who parted the Red sea for his Pharaoh to pass.

The similarity of the stories in the Bible with Ancient Egyptian folklore is heartbreaking. Often, only the names of the characters were changed.

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@ topic, interesting post, evolution made white people white, for black people,I guess the earliest humans were naturally black.

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The bible did not say in anyway that man was either black or white when God did the creation. so think we should stop speculating. but the truth is that God created us all.

The teaching of evolution is a total lie cos it has not been proved. the father of evolution Charles darwing made it clear that all pictorial expressions are all imaginary, the teaching itself is all imaginary. either black to white or white to black. it is a fat lie that cannot be proved. there is nothing like evolution. in case you have any point to back up your teaching of evolution, i am waiting.

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[b]Tpia said:[/b]this is quite likely, with some features becoming more dominant than others

Exactly, I have a strange feeling that the first set of humans(Adam, Eve, and the people that died during the flood of Noah) looked similar to these people and their variations. Some are dark while others are light, some with curly hair, some with almost straight hair while others have coarse hair texture. What is funny these people language is classified as semitic as well similar to hebrew and arabic, but written from left to right instead of right to left.

However, to let people understand, this is my opinion.

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this is quite likely, with some features becoming more dominant than others.

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You are welcome Tpia. I think so called races don't really exist. Again we are basically variations of the originally two people. It is obvious that Adam and Eve were dark enough and light enough to produce the various people we have today on planet earth. What we called races today is only a degree of isolation, groups married within their language groups and produce the various facial characteristic and skin color we see today on planet earth, Most likely facial features and skin color occured when individual married within their group. Accordingi to many scholars most likely Adam and Eve were darkskinn people or what we call mulattoes today, it is well know fact when mulattoes marry each other they can produce children that look like a yoruba, spaniard, Indian, and even asiatic within the same family, and i think Adam and Eve was like this, Again, it had to be someone in the middle of the racial group today to produce the variation we see today, in a relatively short time, and you see this with mulattoes or mix people when they marry each other.

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@ ababda

thanks for the info.

the "red" theory is rather interesting because i've mentioned it myself before, as a possible consideration when discussing the origins of race and skin colour.

this was on the albino thread.

i've noticed red haired people [especially whites] tend to have a rather distinct personality type which i wont go into detail about here.

for blacks, not much is known in this area besides their phenotype ie appearance.

but i agree there are a lot of unknowns here.

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"2 nations are in your womb, the elder shall serve the younger, "

Blacks are descended from Esau or Edom, whites are from Jacob.

Why all the fuss? Read your bible and ask for understanding!

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avnt't got much time to go through every body's comments. first, when next you refer to servants of God,i insist for your own good to be conscious of ur words. until the present evidence is proven otherwise, it remain valid that man comes from africa. our color is nothing other than a product of our climate. like you can see, blacks who were some decades ago smuggled to America are gradually becoming lite skinned.

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Tpia, Again i found this from a Hebrew website as well

Name of the Day

אדם (ADM - Adam)

We are all familiar with the name "Adam" as found in the book of Genesis, but what does it really mean? Let us begin by looking at its roots. This word/name is a child root derived from the parent דם meaning, "blood". By placing the letter א in front of the parent root, the child root אדם is formed and is related in meaning to דם (blood).

By examing a few other words derived from the child root אדם we can see a common meaning in them all. The Hebrew word אדםה (adamah) is the feminine form of אדם meaning "ground" (see Genesis 2:7). The word/name אדום (Edom) means "red". Each of these words have the common meaning of "red". Dam is the "red" blood, adamah is the "red" ground, edom is the color "red" and adam is the "red" man. There is one other connection between "adam" and "adamah" as seen in Genesis 2:7 which states that "the adam" was formed out of the "adamah".[i][/i]

In the ancient Hebrew world, a persons name was not simply an identifier but descriptive of one's character. As Adam was formed out of the ground, his name identifies his origins.

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It had to be someone of the middle of our extreme, not so called white, or so called black, or asian, but some in the middle of the extremes, and we are just variation of the original two humans. There is no reason for racism worldwide since we are all related. However i know many people is going to disagree with my conclusions. There is really no such things as races, since we all come from the original human pair.

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I think this wome look similar(not exactly) but similar what Eve must of looked like. It goes with the biblical description what Adam was like. Actually, this lady is Ethiopian.

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Tpia here are a few website i found that might be helpful. The first one is from the Josepheus who was a ancient jewish writer that live thirty years after Christ, he document the history of the jews, and the war between the Jews and the Romans. Many Jews during that era probably regarded him as a traiter for compromising himself to the Romans. However, he felted compelled to write the history of the Jews, however in his writing he wrote about Adam and the constitution what Adam was made from. He also written about the Cushites, and the fall of mankind. Also will give you some other web sites as well. Hopefully, this answer some of your question. cheer Tpia.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tij7Wfj1bFMC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=josephus+said+adam+was+red&source=bl&ots=RAYdc2uDel&sig=m95pmEGheSZdKZ_5rzsLtPeQQ2c&hl=en&ei=_CIVTPWeEIH_nAfuofWJDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=josephus%20said%20adam%20was%20red&f=false

He briefly mentioned the Cushites.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tij7Wfj1bFMC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=josephus+said+adam+was+red&source=bl&ots=RAYdc2uDel&sig=m95pmEGheSZdKZ_5rzsLtPeQQ2c&hl=en&ei=_CIVTPWeEIH_nAfuofWJDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Chus&f=false

Here is other material

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-skincolor.html

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To tpia:

As i mentioned it is a play of words in the hebrew language.

Adam=means human/mankind, but it come form the root word for red. Dam=means blood. Edom=means in hebrew the color red. Adamah means red clay where the first man Adam was made from. In other words Adam was the red/ or brown man. In other words, Adam and most likely Eve were people of color, some speculated that they are what we call mix race people today, which makes more genetic sense. Do you remember the post of the twins one black the other white from two what we call birracial today. Here are the photos of them, this will give you a picture of what adam and eve were like.

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to sister: Tpia

the equator theory still doesnt explain black skin. And most black africans migrated to their current locations- nothing explaining that in the books.

polar bears actually have black skin underneath the hair. Any theories about that? why doesnt the artic fox also have the same.

Hi, tpia i might be able to give you and explanation, however is a little religious. As you know i am Sudanese, but i never told you my religion which is copt, however there are very few copts in Northern sudan today. However, the i am also been thinking about this questions as well, but the other way around, how come God created white people. lol. Needless to say, the answer is from Adam name himself. Some white christians mainly believe that adam name means ruddy or to show blushing, from their racist ideology only whites can blush, but we all know that all people blush regardless of skin complexion. However, in the hebrew language adam name has two meaning, it does come from the root word red, and also means mankind or humankind generally. however, i will break it down to you in hebrew, because it is a play in words.

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BLACK SKIN IS THE GENETIC PARENT!

By:  Amon Hotep

Whites cannot reproduce anything but themselves!  Through powerful propaganda and indoctrination we have been completely oblivious to what having white skin really means.  We have been skillfully mislead to believe that white skin is mankind’s anthropological model and should be coveted.  However, recent research paints a picture of white skin that is just the antithesis of what we have been brainwashed to believe.  The polar bear analysis that was done by the Discovery Channel helps prove my point.  If you shave the hair off a polar bear, the skin beneath is black.  In nature the skin of the polar bear is black to absorb as much heat and light as possible to keep the arctic animal warm in its environment.  It is also true for the Eskimo (Inuit). Human adaptation remains an insufficiently studied part of climate and climate change.  Scientists have tried for years to prove that the environment was responsible for altering heredity.  Eskimos have brown skin.  Eskimos have broad, flat noses.  Africans have brown skin.  Africans have broad, flat noses.  Scientific studies have reported that people are dark because they live near the equator—not because they are Negroid or have a Negroid admixture. There are repeated arguments made by anthropologists when referring to Arabs being brown in color because of the equalitarian closeness.  So what about the brownness of skin that occurs in mankind who live the furthest from the equator—the Artic?  Also, the Eskimos’ nose shape does not work to explain temperature-dependencies.  Broad, flat noses are more beneficial in hot environments—Oh really! Scientifically speaking, Black objects absorb heat very well and also emit heat very well.  If heat wasn’t emitted at the same rate as was is absorbed, the black object would just get hotter and hotter until it melted.  A black beaker cools down much faster than a shiny beaker that does not absorb or emit heat well at all.  That is why snow does not melt in cold weather even when the sun is falling directly on it.  All of the incident light energy is reflected away and none (or very little) is absorbed. If black absorbs heat and light and white reflects it, how can we say that white people are adapted more to cold environments than warm?  That insinuation that white skin is a result of environmental adaptation is the same orthodox dogma that we have been spoon fed for generations, however when subjected to scientific scrutiny it doesn’t hold water.  Reports FALSELY SUGGESTED that Senegalese troops during World War I and Ethiopian troops during the Korean War showed higher rates of frostbite and frozen feet in the African soldiers than their European counterparts.  The laboratory work of the researchers also suggested that black skin tissue was more prone to cold injury; however white skin also exhibited some damage.  After further research the following was indicated:  It was SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that samples of black skin tissue were less vulnerable to cold damage than the lighter European tissue.  This does not sound indicative of white skin being more suitable to cold climates. Caucasians have a higher concentration of enzyme inhibitors that suppress melanin production, according to Halprin & Ohkawara, 1966.  White people also have calcified pineal glands.  You may ask how does this imply that white skin is a genetic defect, The pineal gland secretes melatonin, which activates the pituitary to release M.S.H. (Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone).  It is in the melanocytes that melanin (Greek “melas”=black) is produced.  Melanin is somewhat analogous to chlorophyll in plants.  What a lot of people don’t realize is that melatonin is also related to fertility.  Those with pigmented skin have the highest counts of melanocytes in the Instruments and Tips.  The pigmentation in these areas can be influenced by sex hormones like estrogens and androgens.  During pregnancy, the Tips, face, and abdominal wall become darkened.  These areas of increased pigmentation during pregnancy are due to the increase in the production of estrogens.  Anthropologists try to account for the fact that the Instruments are darker by suggesting that protection is needed against ultraviolet radiation damage, and has been thus evolved through natural selection.  This means that protection of the Instruments against forces that may prevent reproduction was needed.  Similarly, in this view, the pigmentation of the Tips during pregnancy would be a defense against ultraviolet radiation damage to the Tips.  Supposedly, this type of protection would be needed while bosom-feeding during the early evolution of humans in Africa.  According to Robins, 1991, darker pigmentation found in the genitals, may have evolved for the “protection of reproductive capacity”, in that the pigmentation protects gametes within the Instruments from ultraviolet radiation damage.  This is a direct result of why white people have the lowest birthrates of all people on the planet and are going extinct.  Their melanin deficiency is why their reproduction system does not work as efficiently as it should. Whites attribute their failure of reproduction to behavioral or societal reasons. However, the reason is more a biological one.  Melanin is present at the inception of life:  A Melanin sheath covers both the sperm and the egg!  In the human embryo, the melanocytes (skin pigment cells), brain and nerve cells all originate from the same place; the neural crest.  Melanocytes resemble nerve cells and are essential for conveying energy.  When Melanin is missing or insufficient in the ectoderm of the early embryo (blastula), this causes the mother to lose her baby; in the case of whites, a defective baby is produced, and over time, through inbreeding, wears down the already pathetically low levels of melanin.  Reproduction stops altogether and virtual infertility is the end result. As far as vitamin D metabolization, white people have the lowest bone density of all people on the planet.  The skin is supposed to convert sunlight to Vitamin D because of 7-Dehydrocholesterol.  However, white people reflect the sunlight so that the body compensates by depleting calcium from their bones.  It makes whites more susceptible to kidney stones than any other race of people.  The depletion of bone mass is responsible for their low bone density.  It is widely regarded that black people have the strongest bones of all people from infancy to old age. Melanin has been proven to not only refine the human reproductive system and nervous system, but melanin also plays an important part in sight and hearing.  Blue eyes are simply eyes that lack melanin.  Blue eyes are more sensitive to sunlight and do not process light or produce sight as efficiently as brown eyes.  Isn’t it funny how many people place divine qualities with blue eyes that are nothing but genetically defective? Melanin is also said to be linked with hearing.  Melanocytes are present in the inner ear, the eye, and in the membrane that covers the brain and spinal cord.  It has been demonstrated that melanin deposits in these areas are proportional to the amount of melanin found in the skin.  These areas of the body, similar to the skin, are exposed to high-energy free radicals that can damage the surrounding cells, and thus causes a lower threshold for hearing.  Evidence shows that black people, on average, hear better than whites, and that within both races, women surpass men.  A partial explanation of the differences may lie in the abundance in the inner ear of melanin pigments.  Also, numerous studies have found that people with light eye colors, such as blue, green, and hazel are more vulnerable to hearing damage than are people with black or brown eyes. The late renowned Anthropologist, Dr. Margaret Meade, in an experiment with indigenous Australians, Black Melanesian Islander children and white Anglo-Saxon children in the US, revealed that the “memory bank” of black children was greater and their “instant recall ability” from memory, outstanding. She, like most renowned researchers, concluded that black children have a deeper memory bank and hence higher IQ than their counterpart European and American Biochemists have attributed this great phenomenon to ‘neuro-melanin’ - a chemical responsible for black. In his book, “The Chemical Key to Black Greatness” American Biochemist, Carol Barnes, described melanin as, “a civilizing chemical that acts as a sedative to help keep the black human calm, relaxed, caring, creative, energetic and civilized”. Research also revealed that melanin enables black skin to actively interact with the sun, to produce Vitamin D from a biochemical substance, 7- dehydrocholesterol. The study also detected that, melanin has spiritual dynamics as well as physical, since it acts as a sensory ‘receptor’ and ‘transmitter’; communicating with cosmic energy fields in the vast universe converting light energy to sound energy and back. Dr. Richard King, MD, stated that, “melanin, by its ability to capture light and hold it in a memory mode, reveals that blackness converts light into knowledge”. With all of this information, we can plainly see that melanin is ESSENTIAL for the efficient performance of all of the body’s natural functions.  It seems a little ironic, that white people deem themselves genetically superior with the oxymoron of white supremacy.  There is nothing supreme about a genetic defect.  White people are merely mutated inbred albinos.  This alone adds credence to them being an inferior stock.  To feel better about themselves they develop totally senseless propaganda to flatter them and to make they feel better about their genetic condition at the expense of people of color.  The doll test, where it has been reported that both white kids and black kids prefer WHITE dolls is solely out of ignorance, that I have termed  “centuries of BRAINWASHARY.”   It has clearly been shown that white skin is actually indicative of albinism.  Albinism is a genetic defect.  Who in their right mind would prefer a genetically defective condition to one that is Nature’s normal and has been proven more efficient?  This is why we need to continue our crusade to decolonize the minds of the original genetic template (black people) to see through the nonsense propagated by white people to flatter themselves.  Total ignorance can be fought with knowledge.  A more recent tactic white people use to appease themselves is the “Implicit Association Test.”  They have devised a means to make it seem as though white people are supposed to be the most desirable people on the planet and that everyone wants to be like them and be around them.  If you can see through the nonsense, then you will know what I mean.  Would you want to be around a bunch of paranoid genetic defects with psychological problems and with intermittently inferior genes?  In a nutshell, black people, being the original genetic template are the only fully NORMAL people on the planet.  White people are albinos (recessive genetic defects) and other ethnicities are merely admixtures in between. Always remember these points, and you should never have to hold your head down to any recessive genetic defects.  All phenotypes exist within the black family.  Asian people are only the semi-recessive descendants of their ancestors who were a black African tribe with slanted eyes.  White people are the albinos of a specific group of Africans and have inherited those people’s phenotypes.  They try to imply that their phenotypes were originally theirs and that if you see people of African descent with these features, they inherited them from white people.  Nothing is further from the truth.  Blacks are the genetic parents.  Remember, whites cannot reproduce anything else but themselves.  They cannot reproduce genetic material they don’t have,  melanin.  Therefore, they cannot reproduce us, but we can reproduce them and all others in humanity. This should also convince you that all of the great civilizations from antiquity had to be started by us.  White people with their recessive genes and poorly refined reproductive systems, could not have lasted that long, seemingly that they are disappearing faster than anything now.  Breeding with us, or breeding without us.

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How about d ghanians and nigerians dat were born and brought up in europe??,

How about d texture of hair,why are they not same??

@Jenwitemi,

To me' ur points ar priceless

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Indians live in hot climates to but unlike africa it dose snow in certain parts of the country and the weather is cold during winter time which explains thier dark skin and hair colour unlike our african hair which looks like it has been burnt due to the hot weather

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Sorry, if i sounded a bit harsh, but you seem to be mixing up lots of issues together. The post was about how black people got their black (actually dark brown) skin pigmentation, and i felt that lots of people had taken time to give the scientific explanation. So i thought you wanted to start another creation vs evolution debate again.

If you actually wanted to discuss other possible origin of man (homo sapiens) or why there are different races, you should have said so, and maybe started another thread in that regard.

I am not against, looking a issues from a different perspective. In fact at one phase of my life, i was highly interested in the intervention (aliens) theory. I have read most of Erik Von Daniken's books, i even downloaded, printed and studied The Thiaoouba prophecy. So you see i had really given the issue some thought.

The problem was that as my science understanding improved, i started picking wide gaping holes in these theories. If i should go into them, i will have to write a whole book. But the most obvious ones are that, It is scientifically impossible to break the distance barrier between our solar system and the next solar system capable of sustaining life. secondly, it is highly improbable that life from another planet would look exactly like we do, and can survive in our atmosphere not to talk of being able to breed, that is even if they can be beamed directly here.

I enjoyed watching the videos, and i think there might be some merit in some of his postulations, like the one about some hominids still surviving til today (even though it is yet to be conclusively proven). But to say that we (homo sapiens are not indigenous to earth to me is ridiculous. If you say not indigenous to lower and colder latitudes, i agree. But you cannot say we are not adapted to the tropics.

I will look further into Lloyd Pre's postulations and let you know.

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Interestingly enough, the black skinned people on the indian subcontinent have wiry straight hair and not coarse like the black africans. Why is that? The answers to all these questions are just hidden from us, but they will come out in due time.

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i ask myself the same question at age 15 a year after i realized that god is imaginary and since i know how to think for myself this is what i reasoned. If you put white bread in a toaster and toast it for a few minutes the bread becomes brown. {nearly the same colour like me} and its the HEAT from the toaster that makes it brown. If a white person sunbathes at a beach that persons gets what is known as suntan which means that persons skin becomes slightly darker in complexion this is as a result of the HEAT. Why do ghanian people have darker skin than we nigerians do? Its because the climate in ghana is hotter than it is in nigeria in other words its the HEAT.

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You have displayed your ignorance about evolution. Brainwashed by religion and proud of it. Stu.pidity abounds across the nation and they are called the sons of god.

One despairs for the future of mankind with posts like this.

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I am not interested in your "either or" war with your religious opponents about this issue, so do not drag me into it. I just want to know what the truth is about human origins and evolutionist explanations just does not cut it for me, and so do the religious explanations. If you want to know where my viewpoint on this lie, then watch those videos in the link i provided.

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Mr Jenwitemi, if you are really interested in learning about differences in physical features of man, such as skin pigmentation, then i believe page number three of this thread would have answered most of your questions, but if you want to propagate religious teachings, then you should let us know, so that you can get input from theologians.

What do you mean by loopholes, and what are the loopholes that have not been filled. (in the area of skin pigmentation). Is the academic theology priesthood able to provides the answers that is water tight without any loophole?. Maybe the theologians should take over from the scientists, in our universities and research centres.

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You must excuse me, agathamari, but evolution does not adequately explain the origins of man, nor does it explain the the pigmentation question, nor the diverse features. Too many loopholes that need to be filled up. Watch the videos in the utube link i posted. I remain with the intervention theory till the acaedemic anthropology priesthood comes out with a theory that is more reasonable. What they have now is nonsense.

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The biblical theory agrees on one hand with the intervention theory, on the other hand, the claim that all mankind originates from the biblical garden of Eden is false. This is just a mere (very common) claim of the jewish civilization of being the "cradle of mankind". A careful study will quickly reveal that many cultures around the world make the same "cradle of mankind" claim. The jewish claim through their scriptures is just one of many of such claims. Afterall, we africans also make that claim, as well as, messo american indians and the turks.

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There is only one race and that is the human race otherwise called Adam's race. The different characteristics in any people group are only minor, the main difference is in our cultural background. Read about the scientific reasons why we have different shades in our skins Here

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So much truth in just one post. Well said.

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We definitely did not come from the same source. I stay with the intervention theory for now because no other theory has been more acceptable and convincing to me. My view is, there were different "adam and eve" labs in different parts of the world where these first humans were genetically engineered to have features peculiar to that part of the world. It was a global project to help repopulate the earth after a global cataclysm.

Black people were engineered on the african continent, with the favourite lab location of the negroid "Adam and Eve" specimens being somewhere in southern africa area. But that is based on pure speculation. And yes, i believe that we were genetically engineered to be the way we are now, each race. Who the engineers were and when this was done is purely speculative and thus open to debate.

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look at people native to areas of direct sunlight and hot temperatures - less clothing (africa/oceania/indian islands) they are dark, hot areas with dense tree cover (south america/southern asia) are dark brown, those in areas of cold temperatures (cover thier bodies so less direct sun exposure) they are paler. the less pigmintation the skin has the more uv light is obsorbed (what created vit d and seritonin). when you are directly in the sun you can afford (as far as production of vit d) to have more skin protecting melatonin while when you have very limited expoure to the sun because of clothing you have to sacrifice the skin protecting melitonin for the ability to obsorb more uv light to produce vit d. now inuets are exempt from this because thier traditional diet is rich in vit d foods and as such didnt have to sacrifice thier skin protection.

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We should also consider the "Intervention theory" in this discussion. http://www.lloydpye.com/ ,

, http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/08aug/RICR-070809.html

We could have been genetically engineered to be black right from the onset. The theory of long exposure to sunlight changing the pigmentation of black people to black skin color is neither exactly accurate, nor adequate. I personally do not buy it. Many other races were also exposed to sunlight, but they did not go through this pigmentation changes.

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The Bible account is the most accurate. Evolution is very silly. If you believe in the Big Bang Theory then tell me how did whatever banged or exploded came to be? Who or what made it? You are the one that is extremely delusional. What is your degree? Don't put yourself in the same boat as Darwin who was a God hater and an occultist. Evolution is as unscientific as saying the world is flat. And you know it. Everything in evolution is speculation. Nothing was ever proved. Every single date start with "about" billions of years ago. Who was around then? And they kept changing the dates. Whether you like it or not evolution is a religion and everything in it is claimed by faith. All findings point to a common designer. Without similarities in the DNAs of most creatures we will not be able to have a buffet type of diet. Humans probably will eat only humans. The Bible is very accurate. For example, the Bible predicted that Israel will come back as one nation. Sure enough, there is a Country called Israel today. Don't pretend you don't know there is a country called Israel. How many of those predictions did you get from Darwin? If you want to be deceived, you will be deceived. The bible also talked about people in the end days who will deliberately be ignorant. They will be ignorant on purpose. The bible also said people will scoff at the bible in the last days because by proclaiming themselves to be wise they become fools. Are you getting the picture? Before you scoff again, pick up that book and read it. Repent of your sins and ask for God's wisdom and discernment in understanding that book. Not understanding the bible is not an indication of delusion on the part of the authors or writers. The bible also said ask and you shall receive. Most scientist are tools in Satan's hands. This is deep knowledge. This may be way over your head. Do you ever wonder why true psychics know stuff about you? A ha! now start thinking. Do you know a thing about spiritual stuff at all? Climate don't make people change. People were created with different colours just like other creatures. White Americans have been here for over 200 years in the heavy sunshine and heat of California. I am yet to see one of them turn black. Black men have been living in Cold New York for probably the same amount of time. I have not observed any turned white. God would not create something special as human beings and leave us in the dark to grapple with uncertainty until Darwin came along. The same way a TV manufacturer will not leave you without a manual. The Bible is your life manual. Darwin's evolution is a distraction. This terrible distraction has cost so many lives. Hitler believed it. He hated Jews and black people. His plan was to kill all blacks and turn Africa to a farm land to feed the rest of the world after his world conquest. Don't kid yourself. They are still it. AIDS is not by accident. Pot of Cambodia had the same idea. He created the killing fields after studying evolution. You are lucky Hitler did not succeed in his mission. You won't be around today to defend evolution. How can you ever believe an ape is your ancestor? Believe it or not, you have been brainwashed and that is so sad. Or maybe it is true for you.

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as we shed most of our hair we exposed ourselves to the uv rays of the sun and potential sunburns. melanin to protect our skin. the more exposeure the skin had to the sun the darker the skin became, the less exposure the skin had the lighter it became. the same goes for eye color. hair color/thickness/texture is long debated though sunlight and diet played major roles in it. (diet played a role in inuets and skin color). many evolutionary models show that humanoids had skin that was a light brown color when we first began to shed. that we became darker as a whole then some began to lighten again.

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All African people must now realise that the Caucasian races have played a trick within the definitions of the races. Black and white are not actual colours.You will know this as when you see a rainbow you do not find the colour black or white in the rainbow. Black and white are absolutes they exist in all colours.You are not really black but rather brown or very dark brown. The Caucasian is not white but rather a very pale pink brown. They gave themselves the white definition to align themselves with light and in religion its says that first god made light and that prophets where white robes etc. This is all to make other races see them as saviours and many Africans still believe this even today.

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Here there is an abundance of informations

Source: http://www.hypnotiqueolmecpunch.org/Strangewomen.htm

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Horus. I am the one who started this thread and reason I was inquiring was to actually aprak a debet on the question far from what you are thinking as far as inferior or superior races are concerned. I don't have that hang up and infact never did. Was just curious for tangilble knowledge to explain variatons in skin colors. If you read the beginning post you will see how I try to debunk suggestions of a bibilical curse theory.

I don't understand when you say "Black people were created black". The word created would suggest there were no prototype humans that existed before the emergence of black skin.The only way that would be possible is if Adam and eve were black.

Melanin is reponsible of the things you mention above and lack of there of also consitutes the reasons for variations in skin tone. Thats all.

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The person who started this thread want to portray the Black man as inferior or want to imply that melanin is a curse.There is a lot of scientifics informations about melanin,and I dont understand why talking about melanin is considered as Afrocentrist Propaganda by some persons on this forum.Melanin is a natural chemical in the body.Black people were created Black,with melanin it is as simple as that.The Black man is Black since the begining.Melanin is Millions of years old.Some people have more Melanin than others. The amount of Melanin in a persons body determines the rate of damage the Ultra Violet Rays of the sun can cause. The higher percentage of Melanin in a person's body the less they will be affected by the Ultra Violet Rays. Melanin produces Brown to Black eyes,Skin tone and wooly kingly hair that looks like the tops of trees when flying over them. Hummm! The people who are Melanin recessive beings have a deficiency which produces Lighter skin, Lighter eyes, and  blonde hair. Melanin acts as a filter to prevent damage of the delicate deeper layers of skin, by the penetration of Ultra Violet light.

That dosen't sound like a curse to be dark skinned, DO IT? Actually it sounds more like a protective gift from Mother Nature to protect you against the deadly Ultra Violet Rays of the sun.

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@morpheus24.  When you say How did Black People Become Black,this is misleading because you are implying that their color changed,you are implying that Blacks are not part of the original creation and that they Became or get transformed in Black,from what?,or which color?.Remember, whites cannot reproduce anything else but themselves. They cannot reproduce genetic material they don’t have, melanin. Therefore, they cannot reproduce us, but we can reproduce them.

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one thing people are ignoring is reddish skin and sometimes red hair.

People with these characteristics are found in most races except maybe the Chinese/Asians.

The red hair could be a prototype predating both black and white skin.

just guessing.

Someone with that tint/gene may be more likely to produce an albino, in some instances. However, they often have children with normal color.

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And you people were saying that Michael Jackson was bleaching his skin. Make una leave my Michael alone o. See the explanation here.

I already knew this by the way.

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