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How Different Are Catholic Beliefs From Christian Beliefs?

As the topic question asked, how different are they?

Thing is, the closest WALKING (omg) distance churches from my campus are Catholic churches, Lutheran , Baptist etc.

I believe that the catholic one is closest to Christianity. But before I start going, I want to make share I wouldn't be jeopardising my religion belief.

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I see all the Catholic warlords are out in their numbers defending the impossible. Wow!!!

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Alloy Emeka or Hotfunmi or who ever is it that is hiding behind the identity, should please note that i am not here to defend any denomination, hence whether or not a pastor sleeps with his congregation and impreginates a deacon or not is not really my concern.

The issue here is that the Bible is my only standard. If the bible says something is right, then i accept it as being right, but if the bible says something is wrong, nothing u can say would change my mind from the fact that i would also accept that thing being wrong.

As far as the bible is concerned, Roman Catholism is Paganism end of story.

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the OP first has to understand what christianity is all about.

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@ No2Atheism

I changed my pic. Happy looking.

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No2Atheism is not only a tribalist but a religious separatist. Who told you that the catholic idea of salvation is any different from what you wrote above?.

It's a pity human beings are natural political animals. I wonder how catholics are children of satan because of their church while anglicans are not even though they marry homosexuals in their church. Some pentecostals in the west marry homosexuals in their church epecially Holland but not the catholic church. Mother Theresa said " if you dwell in criticizing others, how can you love them?". The major difference between catholics and others are doctrines and God is not interested in your doctrine. the inability of the world to understand and differentiate the meaning of idolatory is appalling. If catholics are idolaters, why pray to Jesus in the first place? Why not pray to the very god they adulate?. You don't even know the simple cell phone you use can turn you into an idolater meaning that it's the heart that determines what you are before God and it will show in the way you behave.

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No the Jesuits are known for defending the Church and for their contribution to the Unversity system, they're actually considered the "intellectual brotherhood". It was actually found for the conversion of the mohammedeans (the muslims) it wasn't until after Henry VIII started his massacre of Catholics that the Jesuits stood up for the Church and fought on behalf of those whose families were being massacred by Henry.

Um I don't think you know what the Bible is then.

Also when Jesus said it is written was he referring to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, Romans, and so on?

Where did Jesus say the scripture is final?

Also when did God actually write the scripture?

How do you know the books in the Bible are actually scripture?

Also did you know that Jesus and the apostles spoke of the stories in the books that are missing from your Bible (protestant bible)? If it was good enough for them, why isn't good enough for you?

Where did Jesus give the Bible authority?

Lastly where in scripture does it allude to scripture being the final authority?

And besides 'it is written' does not in anyway allude to God's opinion. Unless you've forgotten that in the OT divorces were permitted and that is scriptures, but in the NT Jesus states that divorces are not permitted and that is also the scriptures. Scripture does not equal God's opinion. God's opinion cannot negate itself.

Ok I don't see anywhere in those scriptures it says that the scripture is the final authority. God's Word is a Person not a book.

And by the way, why do you believe the Bible to be the word of God? WHy not the quran? The quran also claims to be the word of God.

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Um putting the Bible under the pillow doesn't equate worshipping neither is hanfling it with care like an egg. But placing it above all else is worshipping it. I think more and more people need to hit the dictionary and discover the meaning of the word worship in its truest form.

I beg to differ darling. While reading the Bible I fail to see where the Bible alludes to itself as being the word of God, or the final authority in all things.

Would you mind informing me of how you know the Bible is the word of God and the final authority in all things.

um ok. So how do u know st. ignatius of loyola was a mass murderer, did u witness him murder anyone?

First of all EWWWWW

second i'm all for discussing. I'm not the one going about disrespecting people, it's actually u.

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I was actually saying you should transfer to my school. It was meant to be a joke. Are you new to the university rivals in Florida?

So you worship the Bible? Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible alone shall you follow?

Since the early christians didn't have a Bible, I guess they weren't christians.

A fool shows himself, and you have certainly shown yourself a fool.

that's exactly what I meant.

lol really, so the Bible is contradicting itself?

And didn't the original poster ask you not to bash anyone here? How rude of you? Shows the spirit of God in you eh?

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Please visit the following web page:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Catholics-955/Tongues.htm

The Catholic people talk about 1 Corinthians 14, but deftly circumvent an earlier chapter 13, where verse 1 says:

"Though I speak with tongues of men and of angels, "

Also, though they make reference to 1 Corinthians 14, their beliefs clearly contradict verse 2, which says ", speaketh not unto men." This means it is true that people speak in tongues and no man on earth understands what they say. They are clearly ANTI-BIBLE! This is just one out of many.

You cannot partake of the Lord's and the devil's table. You cannot claim to be a Christian and be anti-Bible. And lastly, you cannot tell me that people that believed their tongues were not always unto men were Catholic Church. So I don't agree with the other-churches-sprang-from-the-Catholic-Church argument.

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@chukwudi

- Yes Catholics are not christians because the Bible says so.

- Yes Catholics are not christians because:

Being a christian is not by birth.

Being a christian is not by title.

Being a christian is not by fiat.

Being a christian is not by decree.

Being a christian is not by popularity.

Being a christian is not by veto.

Being a christian is not by roman declaration.

Being a christian is not by bowing down to catholic idols deceitfully called called names like Mary, Baby Jesus etc.

Being a christian is not by general consensus.

Being a christian is not by inheritance.

Being a christian is not by united nation declaration.

Being a christian is not by religion.

Being a christian is not by sect.

Instead,

BEING A CHRISTIAN IS A FREE GIFT FROM THE CREATOR TO THOSE WHO ARE SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN THE MESSIAH AND THEREFORE WALKED ACCORDING TO PRECEPTS DICTATED BY THE BIBLE AND NOT BY HUMAN RELIGIOUS TRADITION.

Let me repeat again in case u fail to understand,  the standards of who is and who is not a christian is clearly spelled out in the bible. Whether or not people (you, olabowale, tudor, jagunlabi and co) claim otherwise is irrelevant in the spiritual scheme of things. I would rather believe the Bible than even bother to listen to the ramblings of mere idolatous men.

As far as the Bible goes, Catholics are not Christians instead they are idolators masquerading as christians as a result of their political hold on power for thousands of years.

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- No I do not have any allegiance to any physical church.

- Yes my allegiance is only towards the Spiritual Church headed by the Messiah Himself (and not by a mere mortal sinful man).

- I am not a pentecostal.

- I am not methodist.

- I am not a catholic.

- I am not an anglican.

- I am not any other so called socio-politcal sect you might come up with.

- I AM SIMPLY A BIBLE BELIEVING INDIVIDUAL WHO BELIEVES SALVATION IS ONLY BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN THE MESSIAH ALONE.

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- Yes i believe that Moses was black because the Bible shows it to be so.

- Yes you can continue to swallow all the dogma that you are being fed since u were born, that is your cup of tea, but as for me and my  future house , i would serve speak the biblical truth at all times.

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@olabowale

- Good that u admit you are not a christian.

- Now be silent and let those who actually read and seek to understand the bible open their mouths to speak.

- Going by your standard of propping up the one that exists longer then it means Islam is fake and a copycat of the Christian faith since it came after the Christian faith as already started.

- Going by your standard of propping up the one that exists longer then it means the Quran is fake and a copycat of the Christian scriptures.

- Going by your standard of propping up the one that exists longer then it means Allah is actually the name of an idol worshipped by Mohammed's father considering mohammed's father came before mohammed and also considering that mohammed's father was the servant of Allah ( i.e. Mohammed's father's name was Abdallah).

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@jagunlabi

- Speaking the truth is not a matter of bias.

- the Messiah was not being biased wen he flogged the money changers away from the Temple.

- The Messiah was not being biased when He openly spoke against the Pharasees.

- So kindly pick up your islamic dogmatic self and scuttle back to the islamic thread where the norm is for one to speak and others follow. The Bible is not for those who are without the ability to independently reason, cus the bible itself said: " . . . come let us reason . . ."

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You welcome.

Next time don't come pretending to want answers when you're clearly prejudiced.

Am out.

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Isn't the word Christian utterly meaningless today?

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catholics are not cristians abi?

so those criminals who steal money from their congregation for the purchase of private jets are better than catholics?

As far as I am concerned ppentecostals are the worst sect in christendom today ,all you hear in their churches are tithes ,seed sowing and every other things that has to do with money.

They devote more time to money than the real word of God ,You hardly hear them preach salvation everything is about prosperity yet they turn around to attack catholics who are far better than them.

No 2 atheism

So your own church where they preach that moses is black is better than the RCC

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So if all these subsects of the christiandom do not qualify as christians in your eyes,which subsect(s) do(es) qualify?The members of subsect you belong to will definitely qualify as christians,i presume.You're just extending your religious bias and prejudice to your fellow christian brethrens.Pathetic,i will have to say.

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@No2Atheist: Women can call each others, in America Dudes, Guys, but not fellas! It only when a man calls a woman Dude or Guy that she can raise an eyebrow. Also the poster i saying that Catholics are closest to Christianity, than others. Whatever Christianity means, she knows. She has her standard. Even though am not a Chrsitian, I will agree with her because it is the group that Protestant sprang from. So if there are two things of the same type, and one came from the other, we have to give props to the older because it has been existing longer. The protestant Bible is a copycat, less Books from the Catholics. No?

@Poster: You must be a freshman, because of your response to Senior woman, ~Lady~. She actually was saying that you should transfer to her school, in Tallahassee, because its a better academic and student life enviroment School. She propped up what the University is known for without any doubt, Marching Band. Of course both Universities are good Universities for academics and research,

@Respondents: The mother of Protestant is none other than catholic. And not the other way around. Let the Protestants in their ignorance deny it. Jesus, did not mention Protestants and failed to mention catholics. Heck, Jesus did not even mention Chritianity or Christians, so why trying to malign your mother Catholic, Protestant?

@~Lady~: I have to stand up for the truth.

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There is nothing like subset in the church: You are either a bible believing christian or you are not.

The Messiah does not consider some people to be subset and some other people to be superset.

Hence the standards of who is a christian and who is not is set by the Messiah Himself via the bible.

The Messiah himself has already said that some people would claim to be prophets and are not.

The Messiah himself has already said that some people would claim to know him and do miracles in his name but at the end of the day, they still are not christians.

Being a christian is not by birth.

Being a christian is not by title.

Being a christian is not by fiat.

Being a christian is not by decree.

Being a christian is not by popularity.

Hence the standards of who is and who is not a christian is clearly spelled out in the bible. Wether or not some people claim to be christians even wen the bible clearly shows that they are not really does not matter cus man is not the judge, the Creator Himself is, hence even if they deceive and convince themselves into believing a lie, it still does not matter. Because as far as i am concerned and as far as the bible is concerned,

Catholics are not christians.

Jehova Witnesses are not christians.

Mormons are not christians.

Because the bible shows so.

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catholics are a subsect of christianity. I don't know why you guys separate the two. same for mormons and jehovah witnesses.

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@tudor

- By name yes catholics claim to be christians.

- By politics yes catholics are counted as christians.

- By demographics, catholics are counted as christians

However in reality and according to the only standards that guides every person who calls his or herself a christian i.e.

- According to the bible and according their fruits, catholics are not actually christians.

@tudor

there is already more than enough threads on this NL showing how catholics are idols worshippers, showing how they contradict the bible and showing how they are not christians in the true sense of the word. Hence technically speaking i am not going to go into that argument again for now.

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What a silly thread. Are catholics not christians?

From the title the poster has already shown her bias and prejudice by all but effectively refering to catholics as ''non-christians''

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@lady please note that she is not a dude, she is a she.

By the way the Creator and the Messiah reveals Himself to those who walk according to scripture and not to those who really care [/b]and not to those who operate according to [b]tradition, otherwise even buddah would have been revealed to cus he obviously really also cared to know the truth.

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Men thank goodness the Roman Catholic Church is no longer killing people like before otherwise it would have been serious double trouble for bible believers considering that Islam is killing and slaugthering on one hand and Roman Catholicsm is also killing and slaughtering on another hand.

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Dude you need to bleed to Orange and Green. Take yourself to Tallahassee. To the home of the one and only Marching 100.

If you care for your religious belief. Do your research about all Churches, use logic, history, and unbiased sources. And most of all pray pray pray. The Lord reveals himself to those who really care.

Smooches.

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Okay, if you say so.

But i'm sure they'd all beg to differ.

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