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If Jesus is just a prophet then why was He given birth to by virgin mary

Listen mus_lims,i dont mean to be rude but the hardest truth is the only truth,Jesus is the son of God.He is the way the truth and the life.There is no getting to God except through Jesus Christ that paid the ultimate price for the redemption of the world.you can deny it but it is still the truth,Jesus is the reason for ur breath,He has the power to take it,but He wants you to be saved and leave religion alone,This non sense propagated by one man called m_ohammed has done so much harm than good.

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A king that was slapped, beaten and spat on, a king that was assasinated. Hehehe king indeed

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Do you have a child ? Probably one of the child you have out of Islamic marriage.

Jesus is the king of kings and lord of lords.

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@Post :

Adam was created from mud. Muhammed was born like any man just like me and you.

Muhammed was NEVER a prophet to start with because( if you study his life properly), he neither possess a single attribute of a prophet and no one prophesy about Muhammed in the bible. Muhammed was a Mafia boss. He lived a life of violence. He lived his life carrying out war and he deceived so many people.

The characteristics of the prophets as portrayed in the Bible are:

1. Impassioned poetical utterances

2. Intense preoccupation with God, morality and above all, justice

3. An inordinate and fearless compulsion urging him to declare the will of the Almighty

Muhammad's preaching in Mecca was a copy-cat of concepts and ideas plundered and pirated from Jewish and Christian traditions and beliefs such as:

1. Judgement Day

2. The resurrection of all humans, the just and the unjust

3. The accounting for their sins when the books are opened

4. The rewards of Heaven/Pardise/ Garden and the punishment of Hell

5. The doctrines of angels and evil spirits personified in Gabriel and the Jinn

6. The creation of Heaven and Earth, of Man and of Nature

7. The belief in the One and Only God

8. The retributions that the Allah would inflict on all those who break his rules

9. The idea of the Chosen People which he stole from the Jews and arrogated to himself and his followers.

According to the following hadith, Aisha confirms that Muhammad was not able to predict the future, hence he could not have been a prophet.

Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 6.378 Narrated byMasruq

I said to 'Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" 'Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end ! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, is a liar." Then Aisha recited the Verse:

"No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things." (6.103) "It is not fitting for a human being that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration or from behind a veil." (42.51)

'Aisha further said,

"And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar."

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@Nezan: « #36 on: October 07, 2009, 05:16 PM »

And as to a goat entering and eating verses of the Quran, it will be impossible for many reasons; first goat never have played any role in any ahadith, and their presence seems to be in the fields and where they are housed, not in homes of people. Secondly, the way the Quranic verses were sefeguarded/kept, and the sister of Umar Khattab and her husbands care during the conversion event of Umar is a clear example that if Sahabah were not careless, then definitely, the household of the prophet (AS) could not have been any less. Thirdly, when the prophet (AS) died, the whole muslim community was even more painstaking, hence goat could not have wondered into the sleeping place of the prophet, where his blessed body was lying to then eat the "only; impossible because there would have been copies with the sahabah, Scribes" written down "verse, instead of verses! Fourthly, the community must have memorized it and so its been written down was just an assurance, but not the only source of knowledge of it. Further, many must have copied it down, since they have to "memorize" it. I say in addition to memorization, they understand the knowledge behind it and the reason they give us the correct knowledge.

By the way, just like the number of Rakah of each Salah, it was Muhammad (AS) who explains, the same way he explains the verse of illegal sex to include Stoning in the case of those who are married.

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@nezan: « #41 on: October 08, 2009, 03:40 PM »

Unlike Christianity where Paul's statement over rides that of Non-Christian Jesus Christ! What a muslim scholar says without any ulterior motive but for the truth and benefit of knowledge is rewarded, for effort, even if he is wrong. When she is right she gets double reward for effort and correctness. The correctness is found and rooted in Quran. In Surah Kahf, as to the number of people in the Cave, Allah says He knows for sure and some people with knowledge know, too. Knowledge from Him on mankind is a gift and blessing. Hence, from the many scholars of Islam, as they argue and give their opinions, the truth is there, of the exact number of VERSES in the Quran. Some say Bismillahir rRahmanir rRahim is not a verse. I see it on the pages of the Quran and I know that every recitation of Quran must begin with it, if one is a normal reciter, so I say it is part of the Quran, a verse!

Christians dont see what they dont see, aint you, Nezan?!

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True, 'Allah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong doing to wander blindly' Quran 2:15

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i recently saw a picture that amused me nearly to the point of tears

It was a picture of mary breastfeeding jesus. i could help but notice his tiny little fingers holding on tight to his mothers bosom as he suckled away. And i asked myself, why and how do over 1billion people conceive of this helpless little creature as their God. As the Almighty creator of the heavens and the earth. Then it struck me that the Quran already confirm that they have eyes and ears but are blind and deaf.

These incredible xtians never cease to amaze me!

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Nezan,

"And mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth [i.e. Muhammad Peace be upon him is Allâh's Messenger and his qualities are written in your Scriptures, the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] while you know (the truth) ." [Q2: 42].

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What are you expecting him to say? I wonder if he can rightly depend someone's "finding".

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Mr man where is the hadith disputing the Quran numbers, a'ha

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Sunan Ibn Majah, Book of Nikah, Hadith # 1934)

'The verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a leaves and kept

under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (SAWW.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away them.

Ibn Abbas testified to fifty verses being added to the Quran of Uthman

Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti has recorded a tradition from Ibn Abbas wherein he says [Tafseer Al Itqan fi Uloom al Quran, Vol 1: p. 84]:

The number of verses in the Quran are 6616.

Disagreement amongst Sunni scholars over the number of Quranic verses

Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti, whilst citing Sunni scholarly opinion from Sunni scholar Uthman bin Saeed bin Uthman Abu Amro al-Daani (d. 444 H), wrote [Al-Itqan fi Uloom al-Quran, Vol 1: p. 84]:

Al-Daani said: ‘They agreed that the number of verses of Quran are six thousand but they disagreed in what has been added further (to the Quran), some of them didn't add more whilst others said it was two hundred and four. Some said two hundred and fourteen, others said two hundred and nineteen. Some said two hundred and twenty five, others said two hundred and thirty six.’

According to Imam of Nawasib Ibn Kathir, 6000 verses are authentic the remainder are doubtful

To evidence this we have relied on the following esteemed books of Ahle Sunnah.

Tafseer Ibn Kathir, Volume 1 page 7, number of verses

Tafseer Qurtubi, Volume 1 page 65, number of verses

We read in Tafseer Ibn Kathir:

“The total number of verses Quranic verses are 6000. Disagreement remains about the remainder verses. There are various views and statements about them. One statement is that there are 6204 verses”

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It didn't confirm ur claim

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See my earlier posts on this thread na, abi you dey fear?

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Who told u that nobody memorized the Quran, whether goat ate it or not we have it memorized and written. God said in Quran 2 'whatever verse we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we replace it with a better one'. As for doubting authentic verse why don't you quote us hadith to support ur claim

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So which verses of the koran are authentic?

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Ibn Abbas testified to fifty verses being added to the Quran of Uthman

Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti has recorded a tradition from Ibn Abbas wherein he says [Tafseer Al Itqan fi Uloom al Quran, Vol 1: p. 84]:

The number of verses in the Quran are 6616.

Disagreement amongst Sunni scholars over the number of Quranic verses

Allamah Jalaluddin Suyuti, whilst citing Sunni scholarly opinion from Sunni scholar Uthman bin Saeed bin Uthman Abu Amro al-Daani (d. 444 H), wrote [Al-Itqan fi Uloom al-Quran, Vol 1: p. 84]:

Al-Daani said: ‘They agreed that the number of verses of Quran are six thousand but they disagreed in what has been added further (to the Quran), some of them didn't add more whilst others said it was two hundred and four. Some said two hundred and fourteen, others said two hundred and nineteen. Some said two hundred and twenty five, others said two hundred and thirty six.’

According to Imam of Nawasib Ibn Kathir, 6000 verses are authentic the remainder are doubtful

To evidence this we have relied on the following esteemed books of Ahle Sunnah.

Tafseer Ibn Kathir, Volume 1 page 7, number of verses

Tafseer Qurtubi, Volume 1 page 65, number of verses

We read in Tafseer Ibn Kathir:

“The total number of verses Quranic verses are 6000. Disagreement remains about the remainder verses. There are various views and statements about them. One statement is that there are 6204 verses”

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Sunan Ibn Majah, Book of Nikah, Hadith # 1934)

'The verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a leaves and kept

under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (SAWW.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away them.

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For ur information, it was written on skin, leather etc and as well memorized. Have u forgotten the jew who used to write for Prophet, forgotten so soon, ask osisi

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For evidence that jesus married, go to 'gospel of mary' and read it although it was segregated from the bible but you can get them online or in vatican

Adam was created from Mud , were you created from water ? Definitely your answer will be mud if you abide by law of inheritance

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Where is yo hadith mr man and stop lying that goat ate the verse when muhammad was about to die. Desist !

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Why are u comparing a man who spent half of his life on earth, jesus is coming back to slain, slain the unbelievers including the gang leader the anti christ, jesus was born from a virgin mother yeah, did ur mum born you out of virginity ? Jesus was born from a single parent and how about Adam who has neither parent, jesus didn't marry, yeah and he will marry in his second coming to the world even have kids. Back to the biblical jesus, what do you have to say about The holy grail, jesus secretly marry mary magdalene

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Salvation my feet, the world is believed to be billions of years old and for sure the world will come to an end not less than a thousand year, why is ur salvation coming at a time when 96 percent of mankind were gone, is this the time for salvation or wicked salvation ? From Adam to moses no salvation ? Hahahaha. Christianity and nonsense are bound together

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Without His death, salvation would have been impossible!

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Hahaha. Alas Nezan admit that his God died but fortunately rose, hehehe even my 2 years old boy will laugh at ur prankish doctrine

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The Prophet Muhammad, may Allah exalt his mention, really died. But his corpses as well as other prophets' (and even some forgiven slaves') do not rot away.

And beside, death is just another path which everybody MUST take, nobody excluded.

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Jesus died, raised again the third day, ascended into heaven, and is presently sitteth at the right hand of God, mohammed on the other hand, died of a poisoned esienwu, buried in arabia, and his corpse rot away.

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See funny scenerio, a goat ate parts of the koran when mohammed was struggling with death.

Sunni scholars disagree on the total number of koranic verses.

FUNNY!

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what way? The Jews who hold your salvation never accepted him. If we go by the fact that they still control salvation over your head, then you will never get it. Read what you people are saying about salvation and jews,again! You dont have salvation, according to you, relative to the position of the jews!

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This Kufar people are the strangest thing: they either get freedom from human slave master or colonnizer, but turn around and put a yoke of servitude, slavery, servantry on their own neck under a man who used to urinate, etc and eat and drink like me: Human!

Sometimes when I am putting on chamise/Jilbab, I imagine Jesus on the samething, like the Sudanese type, walking briskly in the narrow and winding streets between homes in Jerussalem (Ilyya) to make sajdah to Allah on the ground where Masjid Aqsa is situated. I ask myself, cant this people see that this man was just a human being and cant be God, since he came from woman, a family of man?

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The man that even cry on the cross when he was about to die mathew 27:46, why and how can this thing be a way, he was beaten, slap and spat mathew 26:67 chei chei. You can't even dare to this to idol.

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Jesus is the way . . no man cometh to the Father except through Him!

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it appears the man just came here to advertise his church.

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the guy will not call. he writes once, drop his phone #, and that once every few months or twice a year! that a guy with funny bone. he is a playa.

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I percieve you as a great Jesus advertiser. A typical muslim already have the Gold and silver, the one christians are handling with dirty hands.

When Jesus was born Just only with no father, ever you think of Adam with no father or mother and Adams wife just created from part of a man, all these systematic and miraculous way are very easy for God. All these miracles never substitue created being equal to God or near it.

Do you ever reflect all the prophets before Jesus and thier people will be responsible and accountable for thier deeds. So do I and all other muslims while you loaded your sins and make it a burden for someone. Adam died and buried, Abraham died and buried, So Moses. Before messangership of prophet Muhammad, the whole of arab were in complete darkness. Idol worshippers, killing their female child and women were not better than slaves. He liberated them from ignorance, from opperesors, and gave light to the world with just a single book. What, if we called someone an illetrate, neither read nor write and brought a book, 1400 years ago has challenged the whole mankind, the book with no edition, no contradiction, has brought billons of people in harmonious way of worship. The book with a single author and not compilation of diffrent and incohehrent stories. More questions needs to ask if Muhammad was trully an illetrate.

Bros, with all your prayers, I think you have something to offer. However, you can also call me I have a free gift for you, just call. I think we can resolve common issue.

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Hey ! Can a true God die ? Stop deceiving urself, jesus is proud to be a muslim likewise the disciples

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@ poster - MAY GOD BLESS U

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Can God die ? Jesus died, is mary God's wife ? Do ur analysis and find out if she is God's wife, why was Adam not called God's son or God, He was fatherless and motherless, the first of mankind, think !

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See is mouth like garri and epa

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