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Is Christianity Just A Religion Or A Way Of Life?

I was born into a christian family

gave my life to Christ at the age of 8

and I have lived my whole life as a Believer.

with the help of the Holy Spirit I live a life that is Pleasing to God.[b][/b]

I know and believe that Christianity is not a religion

IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.

I say this because the lives most people that say they are christians don't even reflect it.

You only know they are christians on sundays.

What do you think is chritianity just a religion or is it a way of life?

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NO cussing,insults or anything that would not please GOD.

thanks.

Shalom

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no problem ma'am. by all means go ahead and count with your hair if u want.

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get your facts straight.

but you can say whatever you like on a christian thread because no matter what you say we wont get annoyed and you wont get banned

if you can respect the wishes of the muslims then please respect our wishes too

it is not that hard is it?

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If the prayers must not be in the bible then why are you questioning the rosary, if i want to count with chicken fingers what is it to you?

if i am saying the Lord's prayer and i say i want to say it ten times and i throw stones in the air to count, what is it to you?

will you die from it?

i am asking about psalm 23 bcus it too is a prayer just as the rosary, if your prayer is not from the bible, then stop throwing stones.

You still haven't shown how the Hail mary is unbiblical, the glory be is unbiblical, the Lord's prayer is unbiblical, the apostle's creed is unbiblical, the scripture that is used for meditation is unbiblical, because that's what the rosary prayer is, we just don't see why we need to call it the "hail mary, glory be, apostle's creed, scripture used for meditation prayer" sorry but that's a mouthful. So when you are able to use scripture, that you love so much to refute the above then you can come up and respond to me.

Until then go and learn christian virtues and yes they are in the Bible. You may want to learn that there are not 9 commandments but 10.

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but u "respect" islam enough to not go disturb their own threads?

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why should i respect a belief that partly teaches and promotes death and voilence. . . . . .

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I started this thread, and I indicated that atheist contributions are not welcome.

Mazaje, even if U do not belive in God U should at least be able to respect other peoples wishes.

thank u

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i agree that there is no level playing ground here on the religious forum, i don't distub because i dont want to get banned. . . .

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maybe you should learn to start reading things in the full context instead of picking up several verses, what is the connection with the people that settled in samria to the King of Assyria and what did the King of Assyria do to the Israelites.

No doubt God in the past had to show his might and valor and those who were against his people he dealt with, just as he would deal with those who are against his children.

Plain and simple, but please realise that the Old Testament is a history book and things must have taken place in the past in order for things in the future to happen.

The Israelites had always been oppressed, and they too were severely punished for their crimes against God.

You also have to know that the difference between then and now is that Christ came to set things in the order it was always meant to be. So instead of Israel alone being in the covenant with God and always having his protection, all those who accept him and enter into his covenant are also protected by him.

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@ lady

what do you think you are doing? why are you running around in a circle? i am just laughing my Bottom out. . . . . .  nice try any way. . . .

here is what your god did to innocent people. . . . . . . God sends his lions out again to kill a group of people who were new to Samaria. The reason for this atrocity is their lack of worship, even though they were never informed of the proper worship methods (2 Kings 17:24-26). However, this supposedly significant detail didn’t halt God from killing them. He had to have known that he would eventually murder this party, but instead of properly instructing them, God just kills them. There’s not even a miniscule resemblance of justice in the Hebrew god.

In an exploit of inconceivable irrationality, God sends forth two bears to kill forty-two children for making fun of Elisha’s bald head (2 Kings 2:23-24). Why would the omnibenevolent God feel the necessity to have two bears viciously maul little children for acting like…children? This is supposed to be the same “wonderful” and “loving” God. . . . . . He inflicts a number of people with blindness because Elisha asks him to do so (2 Kings 6:18). He causes a seven-year famine without specifying a reason (2 Kings 8:1). God kills Jeroboam because he’s the leader of the enemies (2 Chronicles 13:20). He kills Nabal without specifying a reason, but it’s probably because David desires his wife and other belongings (1 Samuel 25:38). God sends an angel to kill 185,000 men in an Assyrian camp because they’re enemies of his people (2 Kings 19:31-35). He plagues Azariah, a man labeled as a good King, with leprosy for the remainder of his life because he allows people to burn incense in a location displeasing to God (2 Kings 15:1-5). This is another great example of an overbearing punishment for breaking an asinine law. Some of our fellow humans were obviously destined to meet death early in life without any chance of redemption in God’s eyes.

now what is the difference between the biblical god of the old testament and mohammed/Allah? the answer is NIL. . . . . . they are both tribal/ethnic, manovalent, vindictive, angry and spiteful. . . . . . . thank goodness the hebrew god moved with humanity and changed from his evil ways and modus operendi

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So John called it the Trinity. You can stop calling it the Trinity you know since it's our word and you know we're heretics, why use the same word that heretics use? You should from heretics and everything having to do with them? so why bother yourself with the word trinity? afterall we're the ones that call it the trinity.

Um that was not even in reference to the rosary and yu know it, I was responding to your post of matthew something i believe. yeah. so please stop being deceitful. and you still can't refute sacred tradition.

are you bored? or what? you asked for the rosary in sacred tradition and now you change the question? you are so deceitful. you know very well that the word rosary is not in the bible but the prayers that make up the rosary are in the bible. and i already gave you references.

you stil haven't answered my own questions, where does it say that psalm 23 must or should be prayed and where does it say that the prayers you said today (if infact you prayed today) are in the bible?

The Hail MARY PRAYER IS found in Luke 1:28 and 42

The Our Father is found in Matthew 6:9-13

So you got a problem with them. You got a problem with meditating on the events of Jesus and Mary's life?

If you do too bad, take it up with God.

Where did Jesus ask you to pray Psalm 23 or to meditate on the scripture and actually here's where the Lord says we should pray matthew 6:9-13 that is a part of the rosary prayer, is that wrong too. the only prayer that Christ taught us to pray is the Lord's prayer is that the only prayer you say?

oh i don't have to, you that very well yourself. when you ask where does it say that the apsotles ask us to practice virtue, you show how ignorant you are.

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Here is what my bible has to say - 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

There are only 2 instances where dead people appeared to the living -

1. Saul and the witch of Endor (we know what end Saul and his sons met).

2. The transfiguration.

Again i ask a simple question - kindly show me in the bible where the dead appeared unto the living by the unction of God.

the bible has more to say - Ecclesiates 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

I ask again - where in the bible are we asked to communicate with dead "saints", virgin Mary's or loved ones?

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I asked a simple one-sentence question . . .

simply show me where the use of the rosary, the veneration of mary (as an intercessor) and the physical symbol of the cross is venerated in the bible.

All i get (as is usual with desperate and heretical organisations) is a long-winded tome answering none of the questions.

Post another long sermon, i wont be there to read except to just check for the answers to the original questions.

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What a temple of pride and heresy. Did the catholic church also define it to John who wrote this down explicitly in the book of 1 John? Was it the catholic church that defined it to Isaiah when he prophesied and called Jesus Christ the EVERLASTING FATHER?

Was it the catholic church who defined it to Philip in the book of John?

i asked a very simple question at the begining of ur usual verbose meaningless verbal gymnastics . . . where is the use of the rosary commanded in the bible? What did i get in response? Tons of words saying nothing . . . why shld i be the one to supply proof? what proof?

Simple question - where is it in the bible?

There were no monks in the early church.

simple question again - where did Christ teach his disciples to pray with rosaries?

Simple question again - where is the rosary and the veneration of the cross in the bible?

I understood it perfectly, don't put words in my mouth out of desperation to paint me ignorant.

Simple question - if the cross refers to our "struggles in life and our sufferings" why then is it a prominent symbol of veneration in your church?

Again i understood it perfectly, i don't need lessons from you. thank you. Simply answer the questions put to you as honestly and as concisely as possible.

I think you shld be HONEST enough to also indicate that you included those verses from Paul WELL AFTER i had responded to your earlier post. I suppose it is common knowledge that you do return to edit your posts.

So lets go back and see what brother Paul has to say - good . . . he mentions the "cross" several times in his epistles (that again is common knowledge) . . . even a 5 yr old knows that.

simple question - why is the cross a venerated physical symbol in the catholic church?

thank you.

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Wrong, the Bible spoke of it, and the Catholic Church clearly defined it, because even till today people read and stil don't understand. You should know because you don't understand.

What? Nothing to refute that the Bible is sacred tradition? Oh my word, david and here I thought you had some proof of that.

The rosary is not a sacred tradition, you don't have to pray it, it is by choice, seriously are you so desperate, but you want to know about the rosary and its history well here it is.

The rosary started in the early church when the monks would count and recite the psalms, they kept count with beads just as the Jews did in the past when they prayed, it was a way that illiterate people would keep count of the prayers that they said, and then in the 12th century Mary appeared to St. Dominic and asked him to promote the prayer of the rosary and ever since then the rosary has been one of the famous prayers and effective prayers of the Church.

Really? and here i thought that all this time you have been going around on nairaland being the defender of the truth, or is that not what you think you're doing right now?

And I am so glad that you mentioned Peter I believe he's the one who stated this: 15 But sanctify the Lord Christ in your hearts, being ready always to satisfy every one that asketh you a reason of that hope which is in you. 1 Peter 3:15

He was talking about our struggles in life and our sufferings, I was really hoping that you would understand what a cross is, I figure an atheist or a non-christian won't understand what the cross stands for, but for you to not understand, I mean that's shameful especially since you've been going around this board reproving everyone.

Well yeah, he was, he was talking about our yokes spiritually, physically, emotionally, mentally, socially, anything having to so with you as a human, he was talking about that. Your Spirit is not separate from your body so it is also phycial, unless yo're dead. Are you dead david?

This is so laughable, you know very well that you didn't know what I was talking about until I reminded you. Pride is a vice you know, the way to conquer it is humility.

HAHAHA you're so desperate, because you know very well I was explicit in my explanation of the cross I was talking about there. Funny how you didn't comment on the passages I quoted from St. Paul's letter, wasn't St. Paul talking about the cross I was talking about? Or is it something else, because this time it comes from St. Paul?

So your response?

Who's warring? And no God didn't do worse than mo. Maybe you should try reading it in the context it is written. You know like in history, you know like cause and effect, you know self-defense, and then tell us how it is that God conquered those other nations. I remember one, i can't pinpoint it right now on the Bible but a way that the Israelites defeated a major army was that God told them to light like pots or something like that and surround their camp with it, and because they were on a hill, the big army saw the light and assumed that they had a big army so they retreated, yup that's a way of smiting those people isn't it.

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Religious wars. . . . . . . keep them coming catholics and protestant. . . . .

The god of the old testament did worse than mohammed go look it up. . . . . . . .

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As an english word it does not exist in the bible but as a doctrine it DOES EXIST in the bible. We've had enough of this roundabout attempt to pass off man's doctrine into the bible through the back door of heresy.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Where does it say we shld import extra-biblical heresy again?

The cross is not the sign of christianity, the cross is merely a tool of Christ's death and eventual resurrection without which there is no salvation.

The cross was where Christ died, but without His resurrection from the sepulchre there would have been no blood to cleanse us from unrighteousness and no hope for eternal life. Do you also use the sepulchre for a sign of christianity?

I said nothing of the sort . . . i asked a simple question - show me where the rosary is regarded as a prayer IN THE BIBLE. Christ taught the disciples to pray . . . where was His rosary?

Enough of roundabout heresy.

Show me where this is encouraged by the early apostles please.

Many people, especially those who falsely profess a gospel they do not follow, would do well to go back and dig their bibles before practicing rituals that are unbiblical.

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Where is the word Trinity in the Bible?

Where does it say that you should go by scripture alone?

Is the cross not the sign of Christianity or is it of the devil now? If it is, does that mean that Jesus is of the devil?

The rosary and sign of the cross are not rituals stop lying. The rosary is a prayer, if I should stop does that mean the Bible states that I should stop praying?

The rosary is the prayer of the gospels as in you meditate on the lives of Jesus and Mary and you imitate the virtues learnt in a particular even in their life. Is that wrong? Are we supposed to practice virtue or not?

Maybe people should get educated on things before they open their mouths to speak. Instead of speaking out of ignorance.

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@topic,

I think it all depends on several factors - it depends on what context people speak about Christianity as well as who's using the phrase. As Christians, we like to argue more along the lines that Christianity is a way of life (and most other religions would argue the same). However, there are elements of our Christian life that are religious - such as James makes clear when he spoke about pure and undefiled religion before the Father in reference to our Christian lives [James 1:27].

On the other hand, many who often argue about the core values of our Christian faith often use the term "religion" particularly in reference to christianity. How often have atheists used the term "religion" when they know that they actually meant "Christianity"?

However, the problem that such discussions or arguments project is that it is not so easy to define "religion", just as there is no single definition of "atheism" agreed upon even among atheists themselves. Often, when people are discussing either "Christianity" or "religion", it is pertinent to ensure clarity of terms before drawing any conclusions.

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where are all these rituals in the bible?

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Good one. Please begin and let's share with you.

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Please read context before drawing a parallel - when Christians talk about Jesus Christ being the Savour, it does not mean what you assume.

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Yes it is every Christians duty to make sure that their life is devoted to God.

Are you sure about that? Stating it is one thing, but doing it is another. You can profess a faith you do not live out.

This is what you said dear

If you are truly devoted to God, you won't be talking, singing, acting and doing things like a Christian only when you are in the presence of your pastor, priest, brother or on sundays. You would do it everyday and everywhere.

You already told us you are not devout by stating making the statement posted above, so to lie about it, is truly showing that you are not devout. Don't try to make yourself feel better by seeing who else is doing it along with you, don't ask us to be truthful to ourselves, because you are not even truthful to yourself.

I am truthful to myself, and I profess my faith everywhere I go, yes I even walk on campus praying the rosary for all to see, and I am not ashamed to do the sign of the cross even while standing at the intersection.

So dear just because you have that as your problem does not mean the rest of us do.

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We should be worried about what we are doing to the name of Christ

My life is devoted totally to God

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Then that is your problem. You need to start devoting your entire life to God.

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why do I only talk,act,sing and do every other thing like a christian when I am in the prescence of my pastor,priest or a christian brother and on sundays?

we all know it's true

be truthful to urself.

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Then affee should learn more about what religion is, and affee should know more about her religion.

It is not necessarily food for thought, because it is very evident and not complicated. People are people, they're humans, and affee should know that.

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The reason why I believe that affee is confused is that a lot of people profess a certain religion yet their lifestyles are nothing compared to the dictates of their religion.

I see it as food for thought.

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This woman has a penchant of taking 22 pages to answer a 2 sentence question. why is that? Its so off-putting you begin to wonder if it isnt a deliberate attempt to obfuscate issues.

Simple question again - where is the use of the rosary advocated in the bible?

Sacred tradition has no place in my bible . . . i'm not even bothering to refute it.

I'm tired of your constant mudslinging . . . here is my ORIGINAL question - where are all these rituals in the bible?

Now where did i ask for the use of the rosary in sacred tradition?

Did you answer the very first question i asked you? Maybe if you stopped trying to use "questions" to obfuscate having to answer to the heresy in your church that you cant defend pple will start taking u seriously.

Where did i ever mention Ps 23[b] AT ALL or as a prayer?[/b] Do you just make things up as you go along? Where did i ever insinuate that the prayers we say MUST be in the bible?

Was the angel praying in verse 28? Was Elizabeth praying in verse 42? Do you understand the meaning of prayer AT ALL? To whom where they "praying" to?

Again the issue is NOTHING to do with the Lord's prayer. Infact my question was simple . . . when Christ taught the Lord's prayer did He teach them to use a rosary too? No one raised this as an issue . . . stop obfuscating issues!

the bible is FULL of injunctions to meditate on the Lord . . . Ps 1.

We are not told to meditate on Mary's life . . . if you find it in your bible SHOW ME!

This is a sign of serious confusion. You've repeated urself here again.

The Lord's prayer is a standard . . . WHO ASKED YOU TO USE A ROSARY TO SAY THE PRAYER?

typical pharisaic attitude. They spent too much time obeying the laws of Moses they didnt notice the Messiah was already among them.

Spend too much time "venerating" Christ's sufferings . . . the most important thing is HE IS RISEN and now calleth all men to repent and be saved!

I also notice that you HYPOCRITICALLY avoided any reference to another important question - is St. Mary's alleged appearance to St. dominic to commend the use of the rosary BIBLICAL?

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I would really like for someone to give me a definition of religion because last time I checked your religion directs your way of life. If you were a muslim you lived life a certain way and when you became christian you lived it the christian way, I mean seriously can we please change the slander that has been placed on religion.

Your religion is your way of life.

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Mohammed SAW the last prophet of Allah was sent to save lives too

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Pardon us sir.

Our Use of English.

Religion can indeed be described as a way of life.

But i doubt Jesus came to Establish a "Religion" (organized)

He came to save lives, thats all.

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I've always wondered about this and never got a response.  Can anyone tell me of any religion that ISN'T a way of life?

I was once going to start a crusade against False Dichotomies but then nothing came of it. It is not too late to start.

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Well, the thing is.

Christianity is all about living Christ Like, it dosnt hurt anyone to, but i know its downright hard

some times.

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