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Is It Biblical To Hate Muslims Especially Terrorists?

Can i have a place in my heart to forgive Muslims especially terrorists?

I feel like hating them for life!

How can they kill people in the name of religion? I can't understand this.

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what totally silly responses.

Which "evangelicals"? how many churches are sponsoring those bombing abortion clinics? Did any such "evangelical" tell you he was following the bible or the dictates of his pastor? How easily have you forgotten the reign of terror that the catholic church unleashed on those very same "evangelicals" during the dark ages?

He probably wouldnt have flogged the temple merchants or called the pharisees hypocrites would he?

Surely anyone seeking "religious" information shld know by now to get them from you. Thankfully Christ didnt come to teach us "religious" information, He came that we might have life and have it more abundantly. Continue peddling lifeless "religious" info.

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I agree especially the "evangelicals" those hypocrites, bombing abortion clinics and all.

I can't believe you said this. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. This is not what Jesus would have said PASTOR!!

Certainly by now you would know not to get religious information from David, especially about Christianity.

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@bobokanis

nice words there, you know i dont understand most people on this site. their posts and answers are always ambigous. The truth is who are we to judge these people. Iraq is being bombed for claims of biological weapons hence we didnt see any weapons and Osama has not stepped foot in Iraq (the war in afghanistan can be justified at least, we can say that is where osama resides). But then both the terrory , lol and the terrorists are all terrorists.

For me , i will always preach do what is right, peace , love and unity would get us through,

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I have trully enjoyed all the various answers but am jolted at the manner some guys took on each other rather than give a constructive answers to the question. However, I think you lose more if you decide to hate though it can be very tough to look eyeball to eyeball with the guy that blew up your home and tell him you still love him, it only takes God's grace to do that.

But i plead with guys involved with this so called suicidal missions to stop the madness and embrace love for all humanity irrespective of background, tribe, colour or nation. God places very high value on the human life why should we waste it?

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It is wrong to hate anyone, however, we cld and are allowed hate their actions

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Ayinba1,

I forgot to mention that in all the biblical verses that talked on different forms of violence either from God or from the children of Israel themselves (however,note that they are very different from the wars that Allah says muslims should wage) ,one common thing to all of them is that what was recorded was what they DID . In the case of the Qu'ranic verses,the violence is what the muslims should [b][/b]DO.

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I like it that way, i'd feel uncomfortable laughing with wolves in sheep's clothing.

By the way i read Malama's post at least 3 times searching desperately for what you claim to be her attempt at "putting Islam down". I still dont find any. I'm left with the understanding that its simply the usual crying whenever the truth of islam is exposed.

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The hate of muslims is not condoned by the Bible. The Bible calls us to love our enemies, which includes those who want to kill us or whose religion calls for our death, i.e. muslims.

You may be angry at the them, but you must not act on that anger and you will have to forgive and forget soon enough. Let the anger go, love is much more powerful. Especially love for God.

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@Malama

Impressive turnaround wouldn't you say?

One woulda thought that you were being objective at first but I see that some raw nerves have been hit and you believe that putting Islam down will make you feel better.

Now, how come you have so much knowledge about Islam and the Quran? You want to post here those Quranic verses that support what the 9-11 actors did? That would be enlightening.

We are all entitled to our opinions but do not insult our collective intelligence by pretending to be truthful or objective. At least we may not agree with David but we sure know where he stands.

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@Oloriooko: Only the Christians can answer the question of the poster. Muslims do not really have to do that. There is no real need for the muslims to read the Bible, since Qur'an is after it and it contains all the truth that you have and have been eliminated from the Bible, anyways.

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@David

weird isn't it. You are the only one laughing.

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I think the Poster's question is quite clear and it needs a straightforward answer.We have digressed form the topic and need to answer the poster.

 Q : Is it biblical to hate Muslims especially terrorists?

 A : No,it isn't biblical to hate muslims,terrorists or anyone for that matter because we as Xtians have been called to love our fellow man,love our enemies,pray for those who persecute us or despitefully use us (Matt 5:43-48).It can be really difficult to love one's enemies when they hurt us,but it isnt impossible as long as we let God have His way through us.

    All that digression on Muslims being terrorists and Xtians being terorists is not really neccessary because of the following :

 (a) any terrorist act carried out by any so-called Xtian starting from the Crusades (they did theirs for political aggrandisement) ,to Anti-abortionists and all what noughts  has no Biblical backing/sanctioning. They are serving themselves and their acts do not please God nor do they get approval from Him.Some people say USA is the worst terrorist of all and that it is a Xtian nation.On the contrary,it isn't a Xtian nation ,it is a highly CAPITALISTIC country that looks for what it will gain be it Oil or military might/arsenal.

 (b) the Muslim terrorists on the other hand,have a Qu'ranic backing for their acts.There is a plethora of approval of such acts in the Qu'ran.'Moderate' Muslims call such terrorist 'extremists' but they are not extremists in the true sense! They are Muslims (Q.E.D) and are just following what their holy book says.The Moderate Muslims are embarrassed with all the bombings ,hijackings and all what noughts and they quickly say such acts are 'extremists' which isn't so.To Non-Muslims such acts are labelled 'terrorism' but to true Muslims,that is Islam for you.

   

    We Xtians love our fellow men and we will pray for and forgive those who hurt us (even if we r dying,we will forgive and not curse).

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Are the following calculated to inspire peace or are they meant to inspire fear and terror?

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)

This is terrorism in every sense of the word

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Ayinba1,

           I'm not saying that the disciple was a terrorist.I was just completing the story about Jesus and the use of sword in that physical fight against one's enemies is condemned by Jesus.He rightly said that His kingdom isnt of this world.

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@david

"Sell your garments to buy swords"

"sword" means "spiritual" sword, the same "sword" carried by "disciples" for "self defence" definitely not for "war". War ke, oo  ti o.

"Sword", misunderstood by disciples to mean sword. "Swords" (carried by disciples) so small they (disciples) could conceal it from Jesus(God/Jesus/holy ghost = trinity) hence he could not correct them that they misunderstood him,  and disciple later produced it to cut someone's ear.

You have little understanding and that is why you are so astounded that I do not speak evil about the followers of Jesus/Isa (AS) cos you see David, you are not a follower of Jesus, you just think you are.

Got it!

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@Davidylan: #27 on: Today at 08:47:17 PM »  

All of a sudden you become a woosy. How come? What happened?

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Which war?   There was no war at all well after Christ resurrected and many of the disciples died so which war did you think they were preparing swords for? No, they were asked to buy swords because they were going on a journey . . . in those days the tools of a traveller included a stave and sword for self defence . . .

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Which journey? To where? have they made any journey before and why this one needed a sword in place of cloak? If your a talking of peaceful person, always, why need a means of defense by Sword? David, you dey lie too much, bro. Self defense? You should be ashamed of yourself! I bet the sword is for beautification of the cloak they no longer have. Very cosmetic! Ojoro David poo ju. wow. I wanna see how he will get out of this one. Like a weezle or a badger or a wolferine?

I worry about you, considering what happened to Jesus, courtesy of the Bible, in his last days on earth. If he could not help himself, but cried out, complaining, why has thou forsakened me, i do not have any hope in him helping you. You only judge a book by what is written in it. In the case of jesus of the Bible, he died while complaining. You do not expect him to do better for than he did for himself.

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that was not my implication . . . the ear that was cut was physical, the healing was physical therefore it stands to reason that the sword was physical. do not push words into my mouth.

I used the correct term "fraud" to describe you accurately because you people are fond of cherry picking one verse and building a castle on it without taking into cognisance the very next verse explaining the opposite of what you claim.

Yes the disciple used the sword, Christ was swift to rebuke him and restore the man's ear. Got it?

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David,

Easy o, fraud ke? Is what I posted not in the bible. You asked about "sword" and one instance that it was used, I gave you an answer, you say I be fraud. Na wa oh!

Na fight? Let's track back a little. Are you implying that the sword that Jesus talked about, that cut someone's ear off, (the ear that was reattached) according to the bible, was NOT physical?

Hmnnn,

Boy, you are way more deluded than I thought.

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@Davidylan: « #15 on: Today at 05:48:11 PM »  

1. So many christian leaders stepped up to condemn robinson's clearly misguided comment - how many of your clerics have openly condemned terrorism?

Are you showing a sign of splitting from the seams, again? You are the rock, arent you? You will not forget that just the other day somebody was threatening to get rid of Obama. And that person in Florida is not a muslim. Just imagine that. You never stop on religion, but skin color is part of Christian current measurements of classifications. And the Mynamar or is it Sri Lanka Tiger group are also muslims? David you are so busted.

I heard him, all the time. maybe he copied Jesus in the purchase of Sword without not meaning to use it. I do need hearing aids. But do you have any excuse for one?

Have you heard of the US saying, my enemy'e enemy is my friend? America has no permanent friends, you know. At one time Hussain of Iraq was the best friend of USA. face reality. I also live in America. Israel's pogroms of Muslims in and out Palestine is probably the Lebanese care less about them. But thank God that from the community of the Jews, there are handful are pushing the envelope of telling the world about the evil of the Zionists over the Palestinian Muslims and the minority Christians. The issue is this, why havent the christians helped their christian brothers and sisters, at least among the palestinians?

You should read about him. He is your brother in the religion. I guess you never paid any attention to anything around you. Goggle the materials on the case and be amazed.

David you are unaware of whats going on in the world. Aghanistan, the regime of Ahmad Karzai?  Can anyone help this man? I love him, but I can't help him in this mindset that he has. If Karzai regime was on the side of the Taliban or the Al Qaidah, would it have been possible that any nation, collision of not could have invaded that land? David, wake up!

Think for a moment, if the life of a mother is threatened, will it be okay to let her die, while preventing an abortion of a 3 month pregnancy? Shouldn't a child have a mother, or a 3 month fetus can survive on its one, without the mother?

If a woman is Molested by a stranger, or an obviously psychotic, do you want her to carry the prgnancy though? Anyway a Molester is a crazy and psychotic person.

You have a mindset of a whole community for a life of one person. Now tell that to the uncountable Iraqis that fell through the hands of non-muslims!

Liar, if it was the sword of the mind, did his disciple used sword of the mind to severe the sentry's ear? Or was Jesus telling his disciple to put back the sword of the mind in its place? Your fraudulent response is like swiss cheese, holey and weak. If those who carry sword die by the sword, does this statement get fulfilled, always, or its just one of the selective statements that may or may not mean what it really says?

How about the ones who die by the cross? What do they carry? I bet you have no single shred of an answer! Everyone is watching to see your answer.

Sincerely, I did not want to engage you any further since my brother and sister are doing greater job in their responses. You need to think hard while you are alive. Do not die on the belief that you have now. Jesus will disappoint you, when he will not be in the position of being a petitioner before God!

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Read the very next verse after the one you're hypocritically trying to quote . . . Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

1. That was a clear injunction from Christ that when He talked about a "sword" He was not refering to a physical sword of violence but the Sword of the spirit.

2. That was the LAST TIME any of the disciples ever used a sword.

I'm not surprised though that you choose to be a fraud.

My dear . . . it is infact YOU and your fellow co-travellers who are the liars, hypocrites and those in whom the truth cannot be found. The thread is available for ALL to see . . . i specifically requested for the quranic definition of sin . . . NONE of you gave any.

The truth is plain as day.

This is the thread in question for all those interested - http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-154513.0.html

Ayinba1 pls can you be specific with WHO answered the question? All these vague "well a number of muslims answered . . ." is no longer going to wash.

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Malama,

I refered David to the bible since he did not know that the apostles/disciples prepared for war by buying actual swords. I agree with you that terrorist acts should be rebuked.

FYI, the disciple that cut someone's ear off was not a terrorist, he was only trying to defend his party; don't go demeaning these people, remeber they were being attacked.

And just so you know, Jesus and his disciples were way outnumbered and he was not instructed by Allah/God to fight, this is why it happened that way.

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do u also remember that when Mohammed was dying,he cursed both the Jews and the Christians? Does that spell forgiveness to u (considering the Jewish woman who poisoned him)? Is that love,whether tough love or moimoi love?

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@MALAMA:

You should therefore ask yourself,what was the essence of telling somebody to buy sword, especially when he declared that he brought no peace, but war? Was it supposed to be for decoration or to be used for what it was designed for, war, the very thing he declared that he brought? You seem to be apologetic instead of being truthful. Was it not Jesus who overturn the tables of the money changers? Was that action not physical and the money changers did not think that was a form of terror? Enough of the white washing.

Ever heard of such forgiveness displayed by Muhammad when makka was captured, without a drop of blood and the wholesale amnesty proclaimed. I will rather be forgiven than be loved. Forgiveness is greater than love, while love could be tough love. Tough love is hard, it does not protect you from being punished, while forgiveness does.

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              did u also read that the disciple who cut off someone's ear was rebuked by Jesus?Does that not show that Jesus is against physical fight/terrorism and all what nought?

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@David

Your silly post above remind me where Jesus told them to sell whatever they might be having and use it to buy sword and when they showed him two swords, he said it was enough. This particular issues I raised here have been asked but most of you couldnt say anything meaning as to the reason Jesus told them to buy physical sword and I can now see that you are so daft to be asking if they ever used any sword having forgotten that Peter cut off the ear of one of the soldier.

Also if you have been brainwashed to the extent of not being able to use your thinking faculty, then Babs will walk you through your bible. Have you for one day ponder on how Jesus arranged his disciples when he went to pray?

Have you asked yourself when he continued waking them up when he found them sleeping more than once and had to ask them why they couldnt keep watch for him and what could they be keeping watch over? Could it be that he didnt want the enemy to catch him unaware or could it be that he wanted them to pray with him considering the fact that despite his taking them with him, he allowed them to watch over and went to pray all alone and keep waking them up each time he finds then sleeping ?

David, you know that you have no case here by the time you and I go through the bible and funny enough, you asked if indeed they sold any cloak and purchased swords with it, kai hypocrisy at the highest level.

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It is wrong to hate terrorists or muslims,what must be hated are the terrorists' acts.

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Dont be foolish. Pls show me just ONE VERSE where Christ went to war in 33 yrs on earth? Do you understand bible verses at all or you just pluck them from the air? Ok saw Christ's disciples sold their cloaks and purchased swords (if actually they ever did) but just WHERE did they use these swords?

Dont be silly, i have been asking you this question for the last 2 months . . . where is YOUR answer? Is hypocrisy your middle name? Maybe the day you answer i will be obliged to answer you too.

1. So many christian leaders stepped up to condemn robinson's clearly misguided comment - how many of ur clerics have openly condemned terrorism?

2. Robinson has since apologised for his remarks - Osama is still threatening to bomb Nigeria.

3. NONE of Robinson's congregation took up guns to go shoot Chavez - Osama's foot soldiers have since forced the US, UK, Spain, India, Indonesia . . . to taste the bitter pill of suicide bombers.

Thou hypocrite, what was your question again?

Did you hear ahmedinejad TWICE threaten to push Israel into the sea? Maybe you need hearing aids.

Dont be ridiculous, in the US such murderers are actively prosecuted and jailed . . . in Lebanon, a convicted killer was hailed as a hero and welcomed by the president.

I have always asked you hypocritem was Tim Mcveigh a christian? did he secretly confess to you that he bombed the building because of the bible? Engage your brain bro, its not much work.

the FBI did a wonderful job wiping out the group. Hello . . .Afghans are busy protecting Osama in their caves.

Where in the quran is this nonsense supported or are u busy writing ur own quran again?

Tell that to the marines.

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@Davidylan:

Since Jesus is your lord, no wonder that he stated that he came not to bring peace but war and also encouraged the purchases of sword from the sales of clothings.

These above quotes that you made above, are they in your mind leading you to the same direction, except that they completely tear you into opposite sides? When can you imitate your lord Jesus in his "vengeance is mine' statement? Is there a time in the process of a crime? And is there a time that the "love those that hate us, ," is not applicable? I hope you will remember 911, 77 and others and the reactionary steps of the so called christian communities and governments when you respond.

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@Davidylan:« #12 on: Today at 05:10:24 PM »

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Motivated by the same ideology? NO. While the quran EXPLICITLY encourages the muslim terrorist and promises him a reward for being a shahid, the bible is clear - THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL DIE.

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And what will you therefore say about Jesus statement that he was not to bring peace, but war? Or his command to his followers to sell their cloaks and purchase swords, instead? Is that peace, ala Christianity? And when Huxley was asking for definition of Sin, you have failed to give any.

I am now asking your definition of sin, here and now. Please give us example and how do you make them sinful acts? Which is the greatest of sins? And are all sins equal if none is greater? I wanna see how bold you are, or maybe you will falter.

I wonder if the Christian conservative movement under the likes og Hagee, and Robinson, and the other pseudo christian leaders qualify as christians, therefore? Robinson,shamelessly advocated for the murder of Hugo Chavez and others. I am sure your hearing is impaired when it comes to things like that. Those who attack the abortion clinics are not just lone rangers, but the errant persons of the larger group and community. The Federal Morrow building in Oklahoma city was not bombed without the wider reason based to advanced the conservatism of the Christian specific group at large.

You sound as if you forgot David Koresh's branch dividian group in Waco Texas. And by the way, while islam does not support abortion, but when the life of the mother is in danger, and in molest, it does allow in this special cases. Allah is merciful and human life is better when it is preserved than wasted, especially unjustly.

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you sound confused. I do not excuse anti-abortionists, i only wanted to bring out the incredulity of your puerile attempt to compare 9- hijackers with misguided anti-abortionists. If islamic terrorists focused only on abortion doctors, perhaps the rest of us wouldnt have to spend 90hrs at airports undergoing security checks and looking over our shoulders anytime a sheik is on board the aircraft.

But of course i dont expect your cerebellum to wrap itself around more complex thinking.

Motivated by the same ideology? NO. While the quran EXPLICITLY encourages the muslim terrorist and promises him a reward for being a shahid, the bible is clear - THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL DIE.

that is the problem, your "carefully chosen words" are full of spin, devoid of substance and artfully crafted to convey a false meaning.

Again that is FALSE. Your deliberate use of the phrase in highlights is a fraudulent attempt to again co-opt deluded "christian" killers into the wider group of religious terrorists thus equating them with muslims. It is NOT a tiny tiny minority of muslims who advocate terrorism, while anti-abortionists are relatively confined to the US, muslim terrorists span the middle east, Europe, Africa, Oceania, Asia . . .

Another huge difference; while 70% of English muslims tacitly supported terrorist activities after 7-7, virtually NO christian group supports anti-abortionists.

this is again proof that you really have a problem with mental vacuity. Terrorism in the Palestinian region "may" be excused on the grounds of political motivation, but is 9-11, 7-7 (by British citizens), the mohammed cartoon outrage, teddy bear killings . . . all motivated by territorial disenfranchisement?

your oor attempts to excuse islamic terrorism is apalling. Is it because your attempts to engage the muslims ended up in your being hounded out of here?

It is not clear what sort of motivation you claim they draw from the bible? Is it the portion that says "vengeance is mine saith the Lord" or that which enjoins us to "love those that hate us and those who dispitefully use us"?

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Would you love it if islamic terrorist focussed on abortion doctors? I most certainly would NOT love it. I don't believe you said this. A testament of you twisted mind and the damage religion has done to your thinking.

Some Islamic terrorists and anti-abortionist (of the Army of God variety) are motivated by the same ideology, their belief in their religion. It is only to this extend they are in common, an that is what I said in my earlier post. You are so keen to twist my words and impart meaning I never meant. I chose my words very carefully to convey the exact meaning I intended. If I were to rephrase it, I would use the word "some" to describe both religious groups as it is only a tiny, tiny minority within both groups that advocate terrorist activities.

I agree with you point about support within their respective communities - there is a subculture within the islamic world that support the terrorist but it is difficult to tell if this is politically motivated (with their territorial disenfranchisement) or religiously motivated. However, I am not aware of any support whatsoever within the mainstream christian community of support for the killing of abortion doctors. Having granted that, the point I made in my post still stands;

Some people (a very small minority) commit terrorist activities, drawing motivation from the bible.

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this from the same hypocrite yelping about the crusades earlier on? Were the crusaders my forefathers?

My dear we have heard this same puerile excuse for too long . . .

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bunch of religious MORONS

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Should we remind you of the mohammad cartonn-related killings in Borno state? Hypocrite.

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Did Muslim committed any atrocity to your life and you accusing the entire muslim world?

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hahahahaha wont you just love it if islamic terrorists simply focused on abortionists? At least the rest of us wont have to worry about Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Kano, Borno, Sokoto, cartoons, teddy bears, aircraft hijackings . . .

To equate criminal anti-abortionists (who absolutely have ZERO support within the christian community and is ABSOLUTELY condemned by theh scriptures) to islamic terrorists is to expose yourself as a complete fool desperately clinging to straws to save a drowning argument.

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Check out the work of Army Of God, with respect to target and killing doctors in USA and Canada - http://www.armyofgod.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Army_of_God

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Please tell me their names or better yet show proof of it.

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You can not hate every Muslims because a few of them made bad choices. I know some wonderful Muslims.

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Not only moslems kill in the name of religion - Christians have and are still killing in the name of their religion. Think about the doctors killed in America in the name of the Christian religion.

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