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Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an?

Do you think its wise for a chirtian person to read/study the Quoran? What are your thoughts?

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I am interested in seeing what the person dat started ds thread thinks of the quran, I am assuming that he/she has had enough time to peek in the quran since the beginning of the thread till now.

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@kgdavid; if you said Jesus did not know the "end of time 'time of the hour' of the world" but knew other times somehow justify his full knowledge, making him more than a human being, ptophet, then you are a man fully drunk in ignorance. show me where i said i ws talking about his death, which never was, if he badly calculated a jewish calender 3 day period to be friday just before sunset to sunday just after dawn,when the abbath is a single day starting from Friday at Sunset to Saturday at Sunset?

Are you out of your mind, when you clearly know that Jesus said Only God knows the time of the hour,and jesus said he dd not know it, yet you have the boldness to tell us he is complete in knowledge?

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here He was talking about the end of the world as we know it and not about the hour of His death as you claim, hereby exposing your lack of knowledge of the subject matter. i have not yet, in my study of the bible, read the reason why Jesus said He is not privy to this information and as such i cannot reasonably comment on it.

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@kgdavid: Jesus said: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 24:36)"

This is a very serious statement against Jesus' GODhood when one tries to prove that he is the Creator of the Universe. How can he be GOD when he says he does not know?

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You don't know what you are talking about. Jesus knew when the 'hour' had come and began to give instructions to his disciples. nothing you have said above is true. do you just sit down and decide to type rubbish? the worst thing about you is that you think you have posting something sensible when all i see is perpetual nonsense devoid of any facts.

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kgdavid; if only you can hear yourself and or reason, you would have realised how self defeating the Bible is. While you post the john verse above, to justify your statement of belie, it is however not clear that Jesus sai this verse himself, but very obvios that it was said on his behalf, after the fact;

the facts are, Jesus was heard praying to God, even to the point that he cried, wept, lamented, petitioned loud and long enough that the disciples realised that he did all of these many times, over. what was he praying about? that the cup of the trial of being arrested, tried and hung to die be lifted away from him. Why? as a child of israel, he knew that to die by hanging means the soul is ccursed and shall enter hell. these were his knowledge. Howeverhe had no knowledge of the future; my evidence are many but I will say that him not knowing the time of the hour is enough.

Jesus, therefore did not simply lay down his life. if he did he would not from the pages of the Bible blame God by asking why and would He have allowed him to go through the trial, and even the mounting of the cross. Again, if any man had taken this position, completely inferior in faith to what the little son of Ibrahim (AS) took, he should be considered to be a disbliever, worse, a hypocrite, who believes only to the lips, but not reaching the throat.

the lack of knowledge of jesus about the future, is the reason that when jesus fainted, and not dead, blood was still circulating in his body, an never at anytime in the badly measured 3 days and three nights [from approaching friday sunset to before sunris sunday is not three days and three nights], that Jesus body reached rigormortis, the reason the women were oiling his wounded and aching body. it is not Jewish custom to keep their dead for a long time and even oil the body of a dead man is forbidden, untl they wash and stroud. these were not the cae of jesus, for sabbath as just a day from fridaysunst to saturday sunset, yet Jesu was already well enough by sunday morning; tell me you are not gullible to see the lies in yor bible, except that you are insolent in your decision to accept the truly unacceptable?

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as i said in the other thread, Jesus did not die because He could not save himelf. Jesus's very mission on earth was for that very purpose; to die as a sacrifice, an atonement for sins He never committed.

in John 10:18 it says and i quote-

'No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.'

understand that Jesus was on a mission

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kgdavid; you are almost correct about my age, except am few years older than that. but then if i am mortal because of my limited ability and orthat death will catch up to me, someday, then jesus and me are in the exact sme position; limited in knowledge and not immune from death.

what you fail to realise therefore, old man, is that you confined God Almighty Who is beyond allhuman reasons and capabilities to a mere human being, toyed around by satan at least 3 times and the rushing him to the wilderness, whe alland every prophet(s) used to preach o man in their habitations, not the wilderness where is no one except wil animals and vegetations.

a prophet wo ws killed by man, is believable. but to sa that God is killed by man, thats superior madness.

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o ye simple boy! i tire of ur lack of understanding!! do you think that the spiritual things are of the same nature as the physical? ye mere mortal! do you expect the all powerful creator for whom nothing is impossible to be confined to the dictates of physics and biology and chemistry, laws which He, in His infinite wisdom, set in place to govern our lives? the eyes of human knowledge cannot be used to decipher the spiritual things. these things are comprehended only when seen through the eyes of faith. your ramblings indicate that you are around the age of 16 or less.

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kgdavid; your girl ayettymama is using kk to identify me. whats the meaning of the kk, sine you are cut from the same clothe?

who is more juvenile; me or you people who say three fully Gods are On God? think about it, and ponder if your heart truly accepts it. can you imagine if your exam question is this; one fully god, and nother fully god and yet another fully god; how many Gods are there: possible answers, though one is correct; a; 1,

b; 2,

c; 3,

d; some other numbers of gods,

e; none is God?

just imagine how eager examiner/marker will be to read your choice, and an argument you may present, if necessary. the case of the muslims is different; Gd is One and he has a proper name. your denial will not change the fact that here is a God Who is beyond all human comprehension, does not die and always in Full Power.

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kk now ur just chattin breeze

and from now on are officially

*ignored*

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But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

can u imaaaagine! as compared to 'kill the infedels' 'burn the infedels' 'jews are pigs' etc etc!

the bible truly is inspirational!!!!

poster above me u are making absolutely no sense!!!-- but one cannot have a decent debate with most of u so i wont bother!

conclusion as u can see from the verse above the bible really and truly is very beauiful

i wont advise any chritstian to waste his or her time reading the qoran- it will teach you nothing!

somebody even said muhammed occasionally read it!

anything to be learbt will be learnt from the bible

where words of peace and inspiration truly lies!

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@Davidylan; « #96 on: March 11, 2010, 05:18 PM »

@ayettymama (f)

palmgrove onipanu mushin ojuelegba ketu ajegunle, brooklyn

« #97 on: March 11, 2010, 05:44 PM »

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^ exactly

even satanists know when u read shizz backwards your injecting curses into your life!

@blank (f) « #99 on: March 16, 2010, 11:51 PM »

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the woman who posted above me; show me an arabic word that means infidel? You will never see it inthe Quran. And jesus called a whole tribe Dogs, even the jews vipers, adulterious generation, and just for good measure, fool when he had jsut said those who say something like that will end upin hell. Tell me where you will find the Biblical speaker who said the above word (FOOL)?

i see that your lying mouth is not bleeding; Muhammad read the Quran somethimes? Opuro. you should be ashamed because it is unladylike, if you are truly a woman.

what will inspire a person about the Bible and or indeed Christianity: is it the 3 gods passing as one, or the unfulfilled prophesies coming out of Jesus, or the disregard of the old testament engineered by paul? tell me, except that your heart s so gullible it will accept anything that will absurb you from taking responsibility for your action?

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Be careful o about reading it. I think it was in Bauchi that a lady teacher was killed because she touched the Qu.ran that someone was using to cheat in an exam. They said she was killed because as an 'infidel' she should not have touched it. Also, if u r in the north, u can be killed if they see a non-mu.slim reading it.

Be careful.

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@Davidylan

That is exactly what I mean. You are on point.

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^ exactly

even satanists know when u read shizz backwards ur injecting curses into ur life!

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See it this way . . . no one wants to be caught reading a book on satanism as it may have negative spiritual consequences. The quran is a book from hell . . .

Of course . . . it has no power to convict.

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@the three posts preceeding this

If you truly believe what you say about the Quran, what do you have to protect yourself from it?

I thought "Good triumphs over evil", yet you are afraid of the Quran. Surely, you must know that the one which you hold on to is FALSEHOOD.

Lord, even pagans are not afraid to read the Quran!

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@ Poster

It is not totally good but for a matured christian it is ok. I have a site where I read it. It is has no inspiration at all i.e it is empty. You will never understand it without the hadiths and the commentaries. It is more or less like a poem that tickles the Arabic ears.

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@post :

Strictly speaking, It is not safe to read the Quran. The Quran is evil and demonic.

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i dont think its 'safe' there are alot of things in it i would say boderlines demonic

but its important to know the basics of thir holy book

so u understand how to relate to them and the reasons they behave the way they do

some things in there are simply ridiculous u will fall over laughing

but if anyone must read it i direct them to;

the skeptics annotated qoran

its wiked!! really breaks it down

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kgdavid; for a starter, moses said his God [Yahweh] is One and Everliving. the christians say that the same God of Moses is Jesus and Ghost and Father and one of the three was a human being, with all the trimmings of human qualities, including eating, deficating, slumbering, tiredness, and then dying and waking up in a badly calculated 3 day. i dont want to even put you through the emotion of your God the ghost is getting virgin pregnant so that his comrade the son can come about, yet the son knew not some future events; the time of the hour.

now if the above is not evidence of two distinctive qualitative Gods, of the same God, please tell us what is correct? maybe Moses and his people were incorrect. seeing three gods and say He is One. but both of you use the same book; the Bible.

i hope you will have a real soul searching in your reading the Quran and analysing it against the Bible.

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^ evidence that the bible has been tampered with

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what evidence are u asking for here?

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Christianity is a religion that follows jesus and to my believe despite all changes that had occured in d bible,i still know that some basic truth can not be replaced,

islam in the other hand is a religion that was founded by prophet mohammed,

mohammed didn't condem any thing in the bible expect what has been tampered with,

and d Qur'an contain everything in the bible and more details,

this is a sign that prophet mohammed is a prophet sent by God to mankind just like jesus.

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i intend to purchase a quran soon as i regularly engage in discussion with my muslim friends. should be interesting. the koran was written at least 500 years after christianity. most of the books of the bible were written separately and at the time period of the ccurence of the events described therein. big question is why the koran has such striking similiarites with the bible when the two books are clearly not united in their message?

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@godson: « #78 on: March 04, 2010, 02:17 PM »

by the way, if the Quraan was from Muhammad (as), he was a genuis, better than the work of your three gods and their worshippers, paul and the apostles who wrote the books of revelation.

@t.truth « #83 on: Yesterday at 08:48:56 PM »

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but where is the evidence of such, by whom, how and why?

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look at ogboni which started less than 100 years ago,and its membership now?they simply did like mohammad by validating themselves with christianity

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what is ur point when we say equating God with any body? Read my post and read again did i equate any body with God?

If u say islam is a man mad religion just as Paul made ur religion.

If ur religion is bible based then justify ur religion with ur holy book and i will do same to islam

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dont equate GOD with mohammad,islam is a man made religion i am pragmatic when it comes to the fundamentals of religion and i simply cannot reconcile thecontradictions in islam, you cannot have a more objective individual than an academic approaching islam for a research work because the essence of a literary research is to show both the negative and positive without being subjective or you will get a zero

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@godpickin,

God says i will hav mercy on whom i will hav mercy on.

If u read d quran a thousand times and also learn the arabic language if God refuse to show u d light u will never c and if with his mercy show u d the Light u will never go astray. Its not about reading but its about d mercy of God on u.

Millions hav read and have seen d way and thousand  hav read and still remain blind, so its all about mercy of God.

To whom it may concern,

Open your heart and stop being bias just as the jews did to Prophet Isa(Jesus)(peace unto him)

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@poster

iit is and i personally recommend all christians doubting their faith should read it to be sure of their religious convictions i read it because of my dissertation which was about juastifications for islamic terrorism and i can tell you without a shadow of doubt that i have been a better christian and more sure of my faith as a christian having uncovered the many lies and contradictions contained including unanswered questions especially about the justifications for the gender inequality,non forgiveness intolerance

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? But i think your religion teaches u not to be rude? can u tell me d reason dis statement cos am very sure if its a muslim that say this to any 1 of u guys u will start shouting .

Anyway i will never trade insult with u.

@To whom it may concern,

If God leads u to the right path u will never go astray and if he leads u astray u will never get the right path.

Its not about reading the holy Koran but getting good understanding about it, u can never understand a book with a biased mind no matter how hard u try.

Read d Holy quran with the guidiance of God and u will see the Light and / or secret of islam

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@4 him, the land is said to be flat not the earth.Read with your brain.By the quran full of wisdom!!!

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You are the one who is deluded. Deluded daughter of satan

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Keep laughing. Your Islamic utter stupidity and mind buggling violence is really laughable.

God have mercy

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If God leads u to the right path u will never go astray and if he leads u astray u will never get the right path.

Its not about reading the holy Koran but getting good understanding about it, u can never understand a book with a biased mind no matter how hard u try.

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Really? Laughable, wallahi.

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I think it is better for all christians to read the Quran so that they can know the Muhammedans for who they really are. The Psychotic mindset the Muhammedans have is from their evil Quran.

The Quran is evil.

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« #64 on: Today at 07:48:50 PM »

They did not have oil in their lamps, remember? And the brides who had oil were so selfish by not given any oil to their fellow brides who are waiting along with them! Typical greed of thr Christians in play. They could not think rationally, and practical, that it will be the best, since they were all together to formulate a process, whereby they will share the duty of keeping them out of darkness, in turn by sharing the oil with those who did not have. Then let one bride at a time for a short time light the lamp for all to see, and pass the duty to another, while still having some oil in the lamp. By the time they take a turn, the groom would have saunteered in, as expected if he was ever going to come!

Did he ever arrive to the brides, who probably burnt all their oil, while stil waiting? In Quran, there is a Chapter titled Nur; Light. $Osisi, read in the name of your Lord Who creates. He created you even though there was a time that you did not exist. Read in the name of your Lord Who taught by the pen, the things you never knew, until you now know them. Magnify the Praise of the Most Forgiving, Merciful! Magnify the name of your Lord God Allah the All Knowing, Creator and Never dies! Am sure known of these belongs to Jesus, or ghost or father who could not rule, alone!

Proof, please when you suggest otherwise!

If we look at the Muslim's kindness where 1 plate of meal is enough for 2, then you will see the generousity of Islam! You know what am talking about. Afterall, you said you lived in Northern Nigeria.

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Did you know that $Osisi is a big time liar? Proof: Read her "did you know", above! On another thread she quoted Quran verse passing it for Ahadith. Woman, I read you loud and charlie. The muslims will meet you in measured pace; all the way, "as you like it!"

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Thanks to the bible: if not we wouldn't have known

jesus who happens to be a god died

the christian god cried

the christian god was a gay

the christian god was killed with criminals

the christian god was carried by a devil and tempting him

the christian god was possessed with a demon

the christian god rised on the second day instead of third day, thus making revealing the truth that jesus resurrection is full of err

the christian god was strip Unclad and beaten severely.

The christian god was ogogoro master, his first miracle was to turn water into wine and his last super was wine.

The christian god became insane and started uttering jagons mathew 27:46 'myself, myself, why did myself forsake myself' lmao

and thousand more

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google and read the Koran and hadiths online and you will be flabberghasted by the depth of depravity sorrounding it's author and originator Mohammed and thank God for the light of the gospel.

Did you know for instance that mohammed had mental problems according to his wife and nurse and contemplated suicide several times?

Did you know he married a 6 year old?

Did you know he snatched his adopted son's wife after peeping and seeing her UnCloth?

did you know he abused aisha his child bride physically?

did you know he slept with his female servants?

did you he killed innocent people and ordered them killed ?

did you know he  was afraid of an eclipse?

did you know he died from a poisoned isi ewu dish?

did you know  that Allah says he could sleep with any  women that gave herself to him?

Did you know that Allah revealed passages in the Koran to suit his evil ways?

did you know he had the libido of 30 men?

did you know that people watched him have sex?

did you know he only got revelations from Allah when he slept with his child bride?

did you know he allowed lying?

did you know the Koran allows men to beat their wives?

so on and so forth.

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If God leads u to the right path u will never go astray and if he leads u astray u will never get the right path.

Its not about reading the holy Koran but getting good understanding about it, u can never understand a book with a biased mind no matter how hard u try.

GOD IN HIS INFINITE MERCY WILL NEVER LEAD ME ASTRAY(AMEN)

I DONT KNOW OF U OOOOOOOOOOO If u want God to lead u to the Right path u can read with unbiased mind.

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@javalove, i read it all the time and it makes me a stronger Christian, i was born a muslim, made to recite it in arabic but the moment i began to understand what it meant i was outraged, then i picked up the bible and could easily know its the truth.

CHRISTIANS KEEP READING THE QURAN AS ITS GOOD FOR EVANGELIZING, THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHAT ISLAM REALLY IS, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT IT IN ALL LANGUAGES, A MAN WAS ARRESTED IN AFGANISTAN FOR TRANSLATING THE QURAN INTO THEIR LOCAL DIELECT.WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF ?

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@netotse: « #56 on: Today at 04:11:11 AM »

Read it and digest it, with thorough digestion and analysis. Then you may be rightly guided.

I read the Bible. And I could read it, still.

@yoci (f): « #57 on: Today at 12:52:27 PM »

Arabic text, because you do not know how to read it. But when you read the english "what it means," please have an open mind. You Creator may just be talking to you. Dont miss the opportunity to listen and receive guidance.

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Chrisitans in genral are scared to tread the quran cos it wud shake their belief!!!!

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