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Is Jesus Christ Really Archangel Micheal?

I read an article dat said that Jesus Christ is now arch angel micheal.wel personally i dnt think so.wat do u think?

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [Quote]John 1:1-4

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.[/Quote]I bet Genesis disagree with this John, above.

The beginning [Genesis] has God.

The middle [John] is claiming beginning of 2 Gods; The real God and His word, as in speech/ audible word?

[Quote]3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.[/Quote]What role did the Speaker of the mere word [His means of commanding things to come to existence [made]] play in the making of what you are now claiming for the 'word'? Who is the maker, the word or the Speaker of the word?

who is more important; the Speaker of the word, Who, if He does not speak the word does not exist, or the word that can not exist unless spoken by the Speaker?

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4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

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3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

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There is no suggestion in the bible that the Arch Angel Michael is the same in person with Jesus Christ infact that is an insult because you see Jesus Christ is God and by all things were created

John 1:1-4

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

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PROOF JESUS IS NOT ANGEL MICHEAL

Angel Michael cannot be Jesus as the Bible says that God the Father NEVER called angel son

Hebrews 1:5

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Also Angel worship is forbidden

Colossians 2:18 (King James Version)

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

It was because lucifer wanted to set up angel worship in heaven that he was kicked out of heaven as lucifer wanted to be worshipped like God Himself

Isaiah 14:

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

and Jesus is worshipped as God

Matthew 2:11

And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

So while Jesus is worshipped angels are not, so Jesus and Michael angel are NOT the same

ABOVE ALL JESUS CREATED ALL THINGS EVEN ANGELS, SO JESUS CANNOT BE AN ANGEL

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

3 ALL things were made by him; and without him was not any thing m ade that was made.

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@Joagbaje If we twist it from another angle, what makes you so right and the Witnesses so wrong? How true is your judgement or should i call it reasoning?

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one cannot blame the JW and co for their different interpretation of the Bible. the Bible has always being the source of confusion and division of Christendom. since the message god has sent down is muddled up, faith is the only tool and god is incompatible with reason, and that supports every beliefs; then everybody sticks to he or her beliefs and chill still judgement day. no one is right or wrong then.

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Your link shows that he was a former member not a current member, so he is not a JW. People around the world know Witnesses as a religious group with high moral standard.

Remember Satan too was equally a former member of God's household likewise Judas Iscariot.

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^^^ Way too emotional to warrant a substantive response. When you calm down read my post again. Goodluck to you.

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Those who perhaps amaze the most are those who prefer long discussions of fine matters of doctrine than practical matters that affect the lives of the least protected amongst us: children.

Exactly how does a discussion of the practice of faith by Jehovah's Witnesses distract from a discussion of one of the major Jehovah's Witness doctrines marking them quite distinctively from the rest of Christiandom?

And how does information about child despoil among Jehovah's Witnesses equate to hatred?

What is vulgar and absurd and nonsensical is butting into a topic only to nitpick without contributing substantively to the discussion.

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Then you didn't carefully read the link mentioning the reward; here again: http://www.silentlambs.org/RewardMcclean.htm

Take a look here: http://www.justice.gov/marshals/news/chron/2009/mclean.pdf

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The article on the child molestor didnt show that he was Jehovahs witness

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Jehovah's Witnesses have been under fire in developed countries for serious cases of child molest (this is the appropriate/descriptive term for 'child abuse').

The most wanted child predator in the US is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. This monster, Frederick McLean, used his position as a Jehovah's Witness to lure young girls. See some here: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/01/61099832/1 ; see more details here: http://www.silentlambs.org/RewardMcclean.htm

This website: http://www.silentlambs.org/ is dedicated to fishing out and exposing Jehovah's Witness child predators. There are many cases, including out-of-court settlements at the site. If you need more specific details, just ask here.

One thing to note: in less-developed contries like Nigeria, Jehoavh Witness predators have a field day: the mechanism, within their congregations protect the child rapists. What you hear in the US is only a bit of the rotten system of this disgraceful group.

Yes, they sound nice and clean and dedicated; but watch out for them when they come knocking. Many times, it isn't what you see that you get.

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Jesus is not angel michael, It is one of the misconceptions of Jehovah witness, based on wrong interpretation of certain scriptures.

Daniel 10:21

But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but[b] Michael your prince.[/b]

Just like satan has certain beings as principalities over nations ,lands and families.

God has certain angels with certain responsibitities over lands,families and individuals. The bible talks about a demonic prince of Persia who is a demonic being over the kingdom of persia.

Daniel 10:20

Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the[b] prince of Persia[/b]: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.

Thesame way,Michael was the angelic prince over the nation of Israel

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Daniel 12:1

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. [/color]

.In the book of revelation we could see how God attached certain angels to certain churches.

And when God sends a mean , he sends an angel also.

Genesis 24:40

And he said unto me, The Lord, before whom I walk, will send his angel with thee, and prosper thy way; and thou shalt take a wife for my son of my kindred, and of my father's house:

Exodus 23:20

Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

Exodus 23:23

For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

Another scripture that they may quote is 1 thessalonians

1 Thes. 4:16

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

And the question is ; "Why will he use the voice of angel if he is not the angel"?

Jesus had said already thAT ANGELS WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE HARVEST OF SOULD WHEN THE LORD COMES. iT IS NO jESUS THAT WILL BE BLOWING TRUMPET BUT HIS ANGELS THAT ARE COMING WITH HIM.

Matthew 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

2 Thes. 1:7

And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

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interestingly,christians are still debating if jesus is God and another is up about if jesus is angel michael.what nonsense!

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Heresis of the highest other.

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@Nimshi, haba, how do you mean? Can you expanciate, the detail of that their illicit acts.

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Below are 2 links to webpages where I think they did a good job in straightening this issue out -

Is Jesus Christ the created archangel Michael? - http://www.letusreason.org/jw22.htm

Archangel Michael.:IS JESUS CHRIST THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL? - http://www.4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witness-archangel.php

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petres_007: you're yet to summon the scriptures Jehovah's Witnesses point to speaking to Michael as Archangel . . .

In any case, when will the leaders of the Jehovah's Witnesses make public apologies for making their congregations a safe haven for peadophiles? When will they apologise for those doctrines that continue to victimise children and make heroes of child rapists?

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Another.  .  .

15 He is a visible image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;

16 for in him was the universe created, things in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen, thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers; by him and for him all have been created;

17 and HE IS before all, and in him all things subsist.

18 He is the head of his Body, the Church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, in order that in all things he may become preeminent.

19 For in him all the divine fullness chose to dwell;

Col 1:15-19 (MNT)

And another.  .  .

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 He was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

John 1:1-3 (RSV)

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you better not beleive this.

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Micheal? Or Michael?

If you meant Michael, well, yes; some Christians do teach so. Jehovah's Witnesses do teach that; perhaps some other Christians do too, most likely the 7th Day Adeventists. . .

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