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Is Mohammad Really The Last Prophet From The Biblical God?

So we've often heard muslims say that the God of the Bible and that of the Quran are the same.

We've often heard that Allah sent Mohammad as the "last prophet"?

But very few have ever pondered what the bible had to say about who was the last to be sent by the Lord God Almighty . . .

Read this parable - Matthew 21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:

34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.

35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.

36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.

37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.

38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.

39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.

Verse 37 is crystal clear . . . the God of the bible sent His Son LAST to die on the cross of calvary for our sins. He sent no one else . . . Christ we know, Jehovah we know . . . but who is this Allah?

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@ babs787

Ignorance is really a disease which both of you demonstrated here.

babs you seems to pre-occupied with the word ignorance when you are almost defeated or even defeated, when you have no more words to say, you simply use the word "Ignorance". and i really think you do not know what it means, what you are displaying here is defeat, short of words and defiant in acceptance of christianity to islam.

Since both of you claimed that the word means Idol, quickly check where you tried running to then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_(Arabic)

Whaooo, you really surprise me alot, so you can refer some one to a website to butress your point,you condemned me of going to the wbsites to back up my post. Now you have done the same thing when you are so so defeated. so you really go to other websites to prove your points in the post, oh oh i do not really know what to say than call you a coward, i am dissappionted in you. i thought you know the bible, an expertise in the quran and historian from you bunch of post. but you are just like any other muslim who seek for backups at the website. Shame on you.

Having digested that, Allah was known to be God in pagans of Arabia back then but they believed mostly in idol worshipping beside Him. Some of the major idols they worshipped are Laat, Manaat, and Uzza in which they believed were daughters of Allah. Allah has been known since the time of Adam but they prefer worshipping idol which they believe provide all they need.

You LIAR, you can only decieve those who do not know, go to the post (Todak, We have unfinished business here) where i have replied you. and for the sake of others, who do not know, Allah was not the true name of God in pre-islamic time, not even Adam call God Allah, Allah was the Moon-god, the chief god of mecca out of 360 gods in mecca who has three daughters, and was worshiped before muhammad was born, just like david posted, Abdullahi the father of muhammad served Allah, so if you want to know more please go to the post i refer babs to.

Also, do we say the word as being seen in the bible means god?

Go back to the post (Todak, We have unfinished business here). It is because of the dominance of islam and also the ignorance that made the word Allah to be used as God in the bible, which needs to be rectified.

Do we also say northern. arab christians that call Him Allah are referring to god?

Go back to the post (Todak, We have unfinished business here). Northerners(Hausas) call God, Ubangiji, Allah was a borrowed and substituted word just as islam dominaterd the north.

So babs, you can decieve all, only those who do not know are those who would fall to you series of blatant lies.

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@Davidlyan and No2atheism

Ignorance is really a disease which both of you demonstrated here.

Since both of you claimed that the word means Idol, quickly check where you tried running to then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_(Arabic)

Having digested that, Allah was known to be God in pagans of Arabia back then but they believed mostly in idol worshipping beside Him. Some of the major idols they worshipped are Laat, Manaat, and Uzza in which they believed were daughters of Allah. Allah has been known since the time of Adam but they prefer worshipping idol which they believe provide all they need.

Also, do we say the word as being seen in the bible means god?

Do we also say northern. arab christians that call Him Allah are referring to god?

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"We don't care yet we care enough". . . .

I was not even talking to anyone when I made that comment. And another reply. Let me see whether anything concerning stealing bible verses was in my former post. . . . . . .

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We dont care, but we care enough to make sure we dont let these slaves of Allah get away with brazenly stealing the bible and its characters to lend legitimacy to the quran. We dont care when you post your "sermons", we dont care when you choose to pray, we dont care if you restricted urselves to mecca instead of trying to rob the jews of Jerusalem . . . BUT WE DO CARE when you try to denigrate the bible as corrupt and yet steal from it, we care when you cry about peace and tolerance then deny others this basic right . . .

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I just read a post somewhere that christians do not care about muslims. And yet this thread still runs. And the comments are always replied.

Hmmmm.

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No he is not and that is abundantly clear except to a mischievious slave of the devil like you.

What a completely dishonest muppet . . . Here is the verse with the VITAL INGREDIENT TO QUALIFY FOR HEAVEN IN BOLD . . .

Romans 6:20For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22[b]But now being made free from sin[/b], and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Again i reiterate, Romans 6 was not refering to "slavery" in the sense that we or muslims use it today . . . if not how can you explain being a slave to sin? Is sin a person? Did sin physically go to the market to employ you as a slave?

No you are a slave to sin (in the spiritual sense) because you are bound by it . . . when you are made free from sin by the blood of Christ, you become a "servant" to God IN THE SPIRITUAL SENSE TOO, you are now controlled and guided by the Holy Ghost, no longer under the control of your own sinful nature . . . that is the essence in which the term "servant/slave" is used.

You dont and NEVER WILL gain paradise (you cant "gain" it, it is a gift of God . . . see verse 23) by being a slave, you recieve the gift of eternal life by accepting Christ as your Lord and Saviour.

Go back and read post #46 you liar!

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I wasn't even talking about the fatherhood part. But never mind. . . .

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Allah didnt even promise fatherhood to you. Pls read what he says about your eternal end in Sura 19:71 . . .

no i didnt put that sura there.

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So it's true afterall.

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You dont understand the bible at all . . . God is a father ONLY to the saved. The rest - He says . . . i know you not.

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I am appalled that you could make such a statement. - Really?

Heaven is not mentioned in the bible alone. It's mentioned in the Quran. - Actually sir, heaven is NEVER ONCE MENTIONED in the quran. What is mentioned is al jaanat - paradise which is not the same. Besides does "heaven" being mentioned in religious books mean you qualify to be there?

Heaven is not only perceived by christians and muslims alone. - it is also percieved by atheists too who dont believe God exists anyway? Where did you find this heaven that you percieve? Where is it and who told you to go there?

Heaven is a general word used for the place that everyone thinks they'll end up in the after life. - That sir, is a blatant lie. Heaven is a word adapted from the christian belief which was predominant in Europe and North America. Why do all dead people, including those who despise the bible all want to go to heaven?

The ancient egyptians believed in heaven, even budhists who worship their ancestors believe in some sort of heaven - The ancient egyptians believed in an "after life" not a "heaven". they didnt know what that word meant. Christian words have become so abused that now they have literarily become mere english words.

There is nothing contracdictory my friend - There is a huge contradiction . . . can you describe this your "heaven" to me? how can i get there?

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David,since you have a problem with the word 'slave',how could a father throw his children into hell for life just because they disobeyed him? Does that potray a caring,loving and merciful father. Can you as a father condemn your children for life cos he disobeyed you?

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I am appalled that you could make such a statement.

Heaven is not mentioned in the bible alone. It's mentioned in the Quran.

Heaven is not only perceived by christians and muslims alone.

Heaven is a general word used for the place that everyone thinks they'll end up in the after life.

The ancient egyptians believed in heaven, even budhists who worship their ancestors believe in some sort of heaven

There is nothing contracdictory my friend

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It doesnt encourage false passivity either. The bible said christians would be hated for their faith . . . so i dont understand why christians struggle so hard to be liked by those who debase Christ the ALMIGHTY to the level of being a slave to an idol. The muslim idea of "peace" is when we bend to their own tune and try to paper over gaping differences to kow tow in their fight to destroy christianity.

When muslims call Jesus Christ a slave of Allah they damn well mean to insult, offend and demean Him. Christ plays absolutely NO part in islam, neither the quran nor the hadiths contain ABSOLUTELY any words directly from Him, He is of no consequence except of course as a subtle way to denigrate and destroy christianity. There is a position better than being Allah's slave - being a redeemed Child of the Almighty . . . the One who lives forever and is Mighty to save to the uttermost. Slavery to Allah is slavery all the same . . . you can garnish a slave all you want he will NEVER have any rights to the inheritance of his master.

I dont make statements to hurt you, unfortunately i am no politically correct charlatan, for far too long christians have tried to "accomodate" muslim beliefs in the false idea of projecting peace - Christ called us to be separate not to seek common grounds with falsehood, especially those who are only bidding their time until they are strong enough to subject us to dhimmitude. Sorry if the truth hurts, islam is built on the quicksand of lies, violence and deliberate appropriation of other religions to give it a facelift.

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Okay. I still don't believe christianity encourages the viciousness you display. And when muslims call Jesus Christ a slave of Allah, they don't do it to insult him or offend you because in our opinions, there is no position better than beign Allah's slave, (slavery to Allah is not seen at the same low level as slavery to humans). We call ourselves the same, so we cannot be doing it to insult him, unlike your making statements with the intention of hurting others. And I am not using emotional blackmail on you, am just beign civil.

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Ndipe, you seem not to get me. I'm not waging a jihad either physically or verbally . . . i am only pointing out hard cold facts. The only problem is that muslims tend to respond to any form of criticism with violence, negativism and blackmail.

I am not one who is comfortable with the pacifist pseudo-christianity being practiced today.

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@David

Olodo. Is God not a father to the unsaved too?

What of this verse that says you would gain paradise by being a SLAVE:

Roman 6 v 22.

You stil ignored this:

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@Davidylan, I highly doubt that Jesus Christ would encourage you to wage a jihad against muslims or non-christians. That they so desire to disbelieve in Him as the Messiah isnt something that we should rage against them. The least we can do is to share the Word of God with them with Guidance from God, and oh well, if they choose to disregard the message, we can simply leave them in peace and wish them well.

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the contradiction in your words are absurd.

What "heaven" will your good life take you to? The one the bible (which you claimed was compiled by man) talks about? Do you know about any other heaven outside the bible? Why do you feel you must go there?

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Posted by: davidylan

As far as my bible is concerned - it tells me that EVERYONE who denies the Lordship of Christ (like islam essentially does) is an ANTI-Christ . . . there are no two ways about it. It would be utter deciet not to tell you that to your face. no i will not be like the watchmen who failed to warn you.

The Bible and Quran were compiled by Man. Can anyone prove the authenticity of the words/chapters?

Live a good life and you'll make it to heaven. You don't need any religion.

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As far as my bible is concerned - it tells me that EVERYONE who denies the Lordship of Christ (like islam essentially does) is an ANTI-Christ . . . there are no two ways about it. It would be utter deciet not to tell you that to your face. no i will not be like the watchmen who failed to warn you.

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Sorry i'm sure you would have made EXACTLY the same comment about John 8:44.

Sorry, when your religion calls Christ Jesus the Lord, a mere slave of Allah - you are being insultive, hateful and inconsiderate of my feelings and DISRESPECTFUL of what i consider HOLY.

When you lie and say my bible is corrupt you are being utterly disrespectful of the bible i consider SACRED.

When you LIE openly to say that all the biblical men of God are mere slaves of an Allah they never knew, you are being inconsiderate.

Thou hypocrite . . . when will YOU slaves of Allah start showing the peace you expect from others?

Sorry, christians come in all shades . . . like i consistently state, we have reached a point where christianity has become synonymous with passivity, empty and pretentious platitudes and a false sense of peace. John the Baptist wasnt afraid to call the pharisees a generation of vipers, he wasnt too "peaceful" to lambast Herod for marrying his brother's wife . . . Paul did not hold back when he handed over heretics to the devil . . .

Sorry again . . . this attempt to use emotional blackmail to muzzle christians will only work for the feeble minded and those who truly don't know their place in Christ.

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Sorry David, but you aren't beign brutally honest, you're beign insultive, hateful & inconsiderate of other people's feelings & disrespectful of what they hold sacred. No matter what verse of the bible you quote, I simply cannot believe that Jesus Christ encouraged behaviour such as the one you display, no offence. If that was what christians were supposed to do, I am sure I would not have had to draw your attention to it because I would have already received similar treatment from majority of the christians I deal with and I would known what the deal was long ago, after having found out from someone else before you. Be respectful, it's in the interest of peace. Thanx.

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sorry if it seems i am "insultive" but actually i am only being brutally honest when i call blabs and co slaves to a demon they do not know. Have you read how Christ spoke to the Pharisees? Being a christian does not automatically mean you become a nice fool to be taken advantage of . . .

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Was Christ being insultive there?

thou and slave of demons:

The Aramaic renders it "God" as - Elah

The Hebrew renders it Elohei

No they have absolutely NOTHING in common with Allah.

Now Arabic renders "God" as - Ilah or Elah (very similar to the Aramaic form)

It is common knowledge to even arabs (except devils who wish to decieve themselves) that Allah is the combination of two words - Al + Ilah = The God

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What do you expect from his type that doesnt know his bible let alone preach to people? You would have read how he ignorantly insult the word Allah without asking himself HIS name in Aramaic,Hebrew and what northern,arab christians call HIM

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Davidylan,

You really do not have to be so insultive with your comments. Surely there must be a part of the Bible that condemns that. Are you not interested in obeying the God you serve by living in peace with others?

I don't understand this incredible amount of hatred you have for non-christians. Even if it's due to something they did to offend you in the past, am sure that offence was not committed by the entire population of non-christians. And if you have this great amount of hatred for us why do you bother preaching to us at all? Why not leave us to whatever fate you think we are going to face. Sometimes your words make it seem like you are beign forced to preach to other people and you'd rather not be doing it.

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blabs . . . why dont you use the quran to justify the prophets that Allah STOLE from the bible? Surely Allah must have talked about Zechariah and Ezekiel in his fraudulent quran no?

Lying sons of belial. Forever rushing to the bible to paper over the emptiness that is the quran.

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You people have a very big problem. I could remember when using only the Quran,you claimed that you dont believe in it etc but while using what you believe in to expose you,you starts going im circles. You believe in it and i use what you believe in to expose you and i dont see any reason for your cry of corruption here cos its wat u believe in

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Except u are a lying piece of poo.

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@Davidylan

So many a times have I done that for you and use the bible to discuss with you when you quote false prophecies and verses for me. Besides, you dont believe in it, so I use what you believe in to nail you.

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when have you EVER USED YOUR OWN BOOK oh hypocrite? Is it so empty that you constantly use the bible?

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@Davidylan

where have you been when I created a trrad for you on the book of Zechariah? What sensible things have been you able to say when I asked you who wrote the book of Deuteronomy, oe of your sisters claimed it was penned down by Moses while you asserted that it was written by those after him.

How many times have I used your book to refute and expose most of your lies?

Wise up if you want to have intelligent discussion with me. Lest I forgrt, could you direct me to where you asked me questions please?

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@ topic,

U say since u seem to know much about lslam.

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when have you ever answered questions?

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@Luvinghubby

What would you do if your questions is being answered?

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Apparently it has only moved on in the west. In Iraq, blacks are widely and openly refered to as "abd" meaning SLAVE, are forbidden to marry other non-black Iraqis, cannot hold elective office and are not protected by minority laws. In Mauritania, slave trading of blacks still goes on today.

Pls show us what is happening to the Iraqi christian community today. Here are a few teasers -

Iraqi Christians' murders condemned

Iraq: Businessman killed as attacks on Christians continue

Christians Fleeing Persecution in Iraq

We thank God he is an American.

In the early 1900s the demographic situation was largely in favor of Christians. On the basis of the number of eligible voters born starting 1910, the study reveals that 68.8 percent of the electorate was Christian, 29.2 percent Muslims, and the rest Jews.

Based on the number of eligible voters born starting 1930, the Christian electorate constituted 52.4 percent of the total voter population, while Muslims constituted 46.5 percent.

Calculations based on the number of voters born starting 1939 show a par between the Christian and Muslim electorate with each claiming 49.7 of the electorate.

The percentage of Christian electorate shrunk to 36.5 percent while that of the Muslims grew to 60.1 percent on the basis of the number of eligible voters born starting 1960. The percentage of Christian electorate further decreased to 27.5 percent while the percentage of Muslims climbed to 72.4 for eligible voters born starting 1979.

Culled from - LebanonWire

Rather than your statistic being an affirmation that christians thrive in arab nations, it is an alarming indication that christian populations are under severe threat. It is worrying if there will be any christians left in Lebanon by 2050.

Because Syria was a largely christian country before the invasion of the arabians . . . ditto for Egypt, tunisia and algeria.

The church was built in Syria long long before those sword-wielding slaves of Allah invaded the country.

In western nations.

It is not enough to debate with "honor and intellect" (two things that are largely absent when mooslims themselves debate) but it is also important to debate with facts.

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@ Poster,

That story was told by Jesus himself, and it wasn't even talking about Jesus dying in the cross.

Could you please provide "Biblical Evidence" that Jesus was the last Messenger?

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Gentleman !! The world has moved on,people do not castigate a whole race anymore. Racism is been stamped out and here is a black man painting another race in such a demeaning manner. Exposure would enlighten you to know there are thousands of arab christians ;Tariq Aziz saddams number 2 is a christian, General Abizaid Joint commander US Middle east forces is an arab christain, at least 30% of lebanese population are arab christians, one of the oldest churches in the world is in Syria and there are christains there and there are thousands of palestinian christians.

Racism is low and painting a whole tribe in a demeaning manner is even lower, if you have issues with islam that is no problem at all but debate with honour and intellect without insulting a whole race in such a manner.

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LOL

babatunde aka babs and his blabbings

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@Davidylan

God bless you David, you are realy up to the challenge, how can a muslim for that matter analyse the bible the book which is so corrupt to believe. and if one intepretes their quran they go haywire. they got to be careful, please carry go, fire on, probably, the light of God will shine away the darkness that beclouds them

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to expose the lie that Mohammad was the last prophet of the biblical God. That God certainly has no portion with mohammad.

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Like LagosBoy called you OPINIONATED, what then is the essence of this topic of yours?

Whose opinion against yours matters anyway?

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Like LagosBoy called you OPINIONATED, what then is the essence of this topic of yours?

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I wonder why these mooslims cant leave the bible alone. If you believe that the Koran is the word of God, why then do you still seek validation of your religion from the bible. The Truth is that even mooslims know that the Koran is nothing but a book of lies, written by barbaric arabic people.

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@javalove

Listen David is my brother in the Lord, so what do you expect from me, to watch you people play him dirty, or what, I think you should get your self a patner also. I'm sure it will not be dificult to get another slave like you to combat sons of God like us. javalove rasulilahi

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was mohammed a prophet (one who speaks by god and it comes to pass)  , if he was, can someone tell me one or two prophesies from him and their fulfilment.

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