is the biblical account of the flood truthful?
Apart from: the literal interpretation of the Creation account, the story of Noah's flood, Balaam's Bottom giving him tips, Joshua and the Sun standing still, Joshua and his peeps singing the walls of Jericho down, David slaying a giant, Samson killing people by pushing the columns of a building down(after losing his strength because of a haircut, no less), Jonah getting swallowed by a whale, Jesus walking on water, Lazarus waking from the dead, and the many other myths I've forgotten; probably.
By Creationist, I mean I believe in the Bible account of creation viz:
That the animate and inanimate creation did not come into being on their own accord,or through a process of Evolution,or some kind of blind force.
That the existence of a Creation presumes the existence of a Creator.
That if the creation possess intelligence as we all do,the Creator must also possess Intelligence,and a higher one for that matter.
That the Physical Earth,and indeed the entire Solar System, was made by an Intelligent Creator.
That the same Creator is the Almighty God,who made Adam and Eve,our first parents,and gave them the power of procreation to reproduce their kind.
I am a Creationist and not an Evolutionist !
I'll be back soon.
The original commandments were known as the MA'AT. So i guess that is what Idinrete was referring to. There were more than 600 commandments. I dont think Moses acually stole them, he more or less borrowed and adapted them for the people to understand just like how the bible borrowed stories from older cultures i.e sumerian.
The latest and assured findings of modern science that I've seen still confirm what geologists over a century ago concluded, a worldwide flood could not have happened.
Well, whatever you present should confirm your claim. Also, when you say "creationist by modern definition", what exactly do you mean?
I'd like to see them, and if it starts to go over my head, then I'd pass it on to some geologist e-acquaintances of mine. I hope you wouldn't mind that.
I have to say from the start that the Bible's account of a Universal Flood about the time it was said to have happened is not only true and factual but also agree with the latest and assured findings of modern science.
I should know better for some few reasons:
Number one,I am a GEOLOGIST by training,and consequently,a Creationist, by modern definition.
Secondly,our non-sectarian organization has done extensive work on the subject since the beginning of this century.From our results,we are fully convinced that there was indeed a Universal Flood about the time the Holy Scriptures said it took place.
In the days ahead,I shall present Biblical and extra-Biblical evidences in proof of the foregoing.My evidences will cover such fields as ARCHAELOGY,PALEONTOLOGY STRATIGRAPHY,HISTORY etc.
I shall give a prelude first,and that would cover the historical events leading up to,and necessitating the Flood.This will provide a foundation for what shall be said later.
It is not likely that non-Creationists will learn much from what will be said here.I do hope,though,that they will begin to appreciate from the facts to be presented here that there must be an Intelligent Creator behind the vast creation that we see around us.
I am also sure that many of us will begin to look at the Bible from a different perspective hereafter.
Only Noah and his entire household were innocent in God's sight.
Only Noah and his entire household were innocent. No other was. And. . if you've read the Bible well, no animal was destroyed. They were all taken into the ark.
P.S. Did you check the links I provided on page 1?
BTW, see this thread: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-19927.0.html
AS I UNDERSTAND, THE PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT WERE THOUSANDS OF YEARS IN EXISTENCE BEFORE THE MOSAIC BIBLICAL ACCOUNT ipso facto BEFORE NOAHS FLOOD. THERE ARE NO ARCHAELOGICAL EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE PYRAMIDS WERE DESTROYED BY THE FLOOD. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE FLOOD MAY HAVE JUST DETOURED ON GETTING TO PISA, LUXOR, ALEXANDRIA CAIRO AND MANY PLACES IN EGYPT OR THE FLOOD ANOTHER COPYRIGHTED HISTORY OF AFRICA ( MORE ISSUES TO COME ON THE BIBLICAL STORIES STOLEN FROM OUR AFRICAN HERITAGE--FOR A START THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WERE NEVER RECEIVED BY MOSES NOR WRITTEN BY YAHWEH OR JEHOVAH) PLEASE DONT START SENDING YOUR BALLISTIC MISSILES ON THIS BRACKETED TOPIC YET I WILL POSE THE QUESTION VERY SOON.
ON KING JAMES BIBLE---- THE REASON KING JAMES DECIDED TO WRITE HIS OWN VERSION WAS BECAUSE HE WAS A POOF(HOMO) AND THE POPE CHALLENGED HIM ON THIS. HE TOLD THE POPE TO Bleep OFF. HE SAID HE WOULD WRITE HIS OWN BIBLE. THENCE, CHURCH OF ENGLAND STARTED AND BROKE AWAY FROM ROMAN PAPACY
hello everybody this is IDINRETE the poser of the question regarding the flood.
so only Noah and his entire household were innocent in the eyes of the God of the Bible
what about the little children, all the adults that were innocent and all other animals that were just destroyed.
that God must be a very wicked God o.
Interesting, it does read like an extremely weird exegesis, but thanks for it. I suppose there's nothing left to say but, wow, the Bible got it wrong twice (if you hold to a literalist interpretation, and interpret the beginning as talking about a flood)) on worldwide floods. What are teh odds?
King James version. if you check the beginning it mentions the creation twice. Afraid I am not one for remembering chapters and verses, i just read.
I came across an old version about 2 years ago, belonged to a preacher in Dominica. I have been scouring all the second hand shops looking for old bible as they reveal more than the revised modern day bibles.
Since i could not help you with the chapters and verses maybe this will. www.branchministry.net/bibleteachings/floods2.htm+two+floods+in+bible&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1">http://22.214.171.124/search?q=cache:7HVy8qCyEyoJ:www.branchministry.net/bibleteachings/floods2.htm+two+floods+in+bible&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1
Let me know what you think.
I remember posting that link on another forum, a good while ago, with something of a rebuttal after it (some of you who frequent that forum would of course remember it was the one titled "Noah's ark found…again.). What I liked about the article - and I still find it hilarious - was this part:
"Bob's team consisted of a "Who's Who" of business, law, and ministry leaders including Barry Rand (former CEO of Avis), the author and Christian apologist Josh McDowell, Frank Turek (co-author with Norm Geisler of I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist), Boone Powell (former CEO of Baylor Medical Systems), and Arch Bonnema (president of Joshua Financial)."
I mean why bother taking somebody who works in a field that deals with things like artifacts, petrification, etc, like say - I don't know - a geologist, or even an archeologist. Nah, businessmen, lawyers, and ministry leaders are just as good, because as we all know, Creationists are usually excellent at geology anyway…especially the Young Earth Creationists.
Perhaps, these links below could answer your question.