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Is There A Need For Pastors To Have A Sound Biblical And Theological Education?

It is sad but true that when you consider how some ministers of the gospel handle the Holy Scriptures from their pulpits, administer the affairs of their churches, respond to social and other societal problems, it becomes glaringly evident that some of these people need have an educational upgrade in Biblical and Theological disciplines.   This is particularly true amongst charismatic/pentecostal ministers who think that getting theological training is a waste of time since they have the Holy Spirit to teach them.  Consider your various church contexts and tell us: Should pastors get biblical and theological training?  Does such education obviate the ministry of the Holy Spirit in any way? 

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There is no need to setup a university to have the knowledge of divinity. Didnt the great teacher chose from ordinary people instead of the learned pharisees and saducees. This is to show to you that the way to heaven and understanding of divinity is very simple that can be understood by simple men. We humans have so erred that we no longer understand messages from on high. There wouldnt have been no need for this so-called pastors. The israelis cried unto GOD, and he heard their cries. There was no intercession made for them by 'pastors'.

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@donnie

Will you shut up? Oyakhilome is a typical example of a daft and dubious pastor who constantly spews out rubbish and calls it teaching to the bunch of deluded lunatics that idolize him. It is ignorant preachers like oyakhilome this thread seeks to address so stop insulting our intelligence by using the crook as an example of a good preacher.

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You must be very fortunate to be part of the Word centred fellowship or ministry. There are those who are not so fortunate; they are exposed to erroneous teachings from pastors who have not been taught themselves. It is sad o; so sad.

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I remember growing up as a young christian how i devoured the scriptures and saught God with all my heart I grew quite fast (thanks to the kind of ministry i belonged to- we are taught the word raw with practical sessions). In a short while, i began to teach  the Word to pastors from other ministries whom i had as friends. They will invite me to come preach in their churches but i'll say "No sir, go see my pastor".

I said this to say that God has endowed our nation with ministry gifts  but not very many church ministries know how to partake of these various gifts given to the body.

Most of the preachers we have in our country are evangelists. Not many teachers. You do not learn this teaching gift or earn it. It is not bought and sold. It dosnt come by fineness of speach or of accent but by the Holy ghost who gives freely as He chooses. It is one of the five- fold ministries: Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers. Eph 4:11-12.

The evangelist may preach and inspire the people  but only the teaching ministry brings the people into a union or participation with the message that is preached such that the people leave the place with the mentality of victors and they overcome when faced with  challenges because now they know how to use the word by themselves.

Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is an annointed teacher of the Word. He is a gift, not just to Christ Embassy but to the body of Christ all over the world. That is why the God will do it for you message is not popular at Christ Embassy. The people are being brought into their inheritance in Christ through the teaching of God's Word. That is why i feel sorry for those who fight or speak evil against the man. Because they fight the very help they need. . . just as they did Jesus. That's why I am excited to be in church, cos its a time of fellowship with the Word and the Spirit. It's a time to hear God speak to me one on one. The pastor speaks from the outside but there is another teacher speaking on the inside at the same time.

You are motivated to put the Word to work for yourself and testimonies abound everyday to the glory of God.

I remember years ago we went on street evangelism and a young girl who joined us tried to convince a man of Christ but the man argued, refutting her claims  about Jesus, calling himslef an atheist. Then all of a sudden the girl spoke by the Holy ghost, you have a sick mum at home and mentioned the exact illness. The man was in shock at hw the girl  got to know and surrendered his heart to Christ.

This is the kind of christian upbringing i have.

We study the word and give ourselves to training as though our lives depended on our study.

We fast and pray as though our lives depended on prayer.

We evangelize as though Christ is coming today.

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I'm sure you mean "the love of money is the root of all evil."  By the way I am not into judging the motives of the heart; that is the sole prerogative of God, what I am most concerned about is the downright ignorance of preachers who mislead God's people from the pulpit.

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I quite agree with you there; however even the apostle Paul did not consider himself perfect in any sense of the word.  His claims: (see Philippians 3:12,13 as well as Romans 7); he went on to declare that he was what he was by the grace of God.  No one is his/her right frame of mind, or have an read the book of Acts would deify Paul since he even rejected same in the book of Acts (Acts 14:8-15). 

Well said Krayola2.  However the main issue at stake concerns these pastors who have no form of training whatsoever and stand to teach God's people what they have not learned themselves.

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I've read soooo much about Paul, any more and I'll have to change my last name to Paul. I'm not sayin he was a fake. . . .I'm saying he wasn't perfect.

We need to stop deifying human beings. We can revere them without pretending they are without fault. That is one of the problems with the way religions evolve. We start to treat one man`s perspective as the be all and end all of everything, and then there isn`t much room for growth. Just my opinion.

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A brother like you who has cultivated the habit of critical study will always pose a threat to these pastors who have nothing to offer God's people beside "God tole me".  I do not see how anyone could possibly question Paul's credentials as a divniely called individual.

Our problem is the lack of sound Biblical teachings in our churches.  Why is this the case?  The men/women (if the men will give the women chance) in our pulpits do not qualify as teachers-- they are simply ignorant of God's Word.

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@Krayola2

If you read about Paul's past when he was a jewish persecutor of chrisitans and his travails as an Apostle you would realise that the man could ot have been fake. I studied his writtings critically and i am certain that the man must have been truely called and divinely inspired.

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haha. I don't have a problem with anybody.

I just think that as human beings we need to recognize that no human being is perfect. . . including Paul.

"God told me" has always been how religions have spread. . .it isn't anything new

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How/why is Paul's "God told me" different from anybody else's?

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That is soooooo true; this "God told me" syndrone. Every pentecostal pastor has now become a prophet of some kind -- foretelling people this, that or the other. This is a classic example of the pastor who has nothing solid to teach God's people; therefore the "God told me" or the "Holy Spirit revealed to me" cpmpensate for their lack of the knowledge of the Word. It is so sad.

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Anytime you hear "God told me" from a preacher/pastor, RUN!

Most of the charismatic/pentecostal preachers/pastors we see today are in it for the money, they are doing this because they couldn't find jobs or cut it in other areas or just because this is more lucrative with no accountability whatsoever. I am skeptical of a whole bunch of them for good reason.

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again motive and understanding matters, in my opinion most pastors don't even understand the true essence of the gospel of christ as it is hardly ever mentioned or emphasized in churches talkless of practicalizing it. As pastor AIO implied, the gospel cannot be that complicated as the disciples that preserved it and were commissioned to preach it by christ were mostly illirate or with limited educational background with the exception of Paul who was a lawyer.

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But how much of a literary tradition is christianity? How many of the early christians were literate people? Were those slaves and fishermen and outcast of society really expected to 'read your bible, pray everyday and you will grow grow grow'? Pray everyday, yes, but read your bible? oops, I forgot, the bible didn't exist then. So let's just say scriptures instead.

I'm not saying yea or nay, I'm just perusing the matter.

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Furthermore, I think the very idea of a pastor claiming the "Holy Spirit" teaches him all he needs to know and uses that to justify his ignorance of the scriptures if false. The Holy Spirit no longer gives anyone any new revelation other than what's been revealed by the prophets and ultimately, by God's son (Hebrews 1:2) - and by extension, the apostles. Everybody else (ministers) should defer to what was laid down by them.

Here's a clear example of what our ministers should be doing, rather than waiting on some voice to speak to them:

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the

word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15

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Apart from the fact that most of them have no business being pastors because they have the wrong motivation [they see it as a profession/means of income which shouldn't be] i agree with you that a good number of them are very poorly trained especially in the pentecostal/charismatic movements that have now commercialized the religion. A lot of these pastors are sooo shallow that sometimes i feel like mounting the pulpit and slapping them for the utter rubbish they are spewing out. It can be very discouraging listening to a pastor that has no knowledge to offer you as far as the scriptures is concerned or whose understanding of the scriptures is much poorer than yourself.

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