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Jesus Of The Bible Encouraged Hatred- Then What About Muhammad ?

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Jesus of the Bible methodology:

The Bible revised standard version

Luke 14:25-26  'Now the great multitudes  accompanied him; and he turned and said  to them,'if any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes , and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple'

Muhammad's methodology:

sahih Muslim, hadith 23

It was related that Anas said that the messenger of God (P.B.U.H) said,'None of you will have attained faith until he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind'

'O people of the book (jews and christian) ! Now has come to you our messenger (Muhammad) explaining to you much of what you used to hide in your holy books and pass over much (i.e without explaining). Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light and a plain Book (THE QURAN)'  5:15

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Thank God the christian ve bible let them go and read it and see whose lying, i or david

@godson. Your god was nailed and he cried, he was beaten, spat and struck. What a sewage

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why dont you put your focus on what he has enjoined us to do,and forget about his personality, do you read your books or do your exams in school based on the aesthetic beauty of the teacher?

im not interested in your assertions of either 3 gods or 1,point me in the direction of the new testament where christians have been told to do something bad or evil, the basic message of the bible is

do good,love everyone even your enemies as yourself,obey the words and commandments of god that is the focus not if jesus is god or not or if he wore a skirt or trouser,or if he had beards or not, which one of these commandments are you fullfilling in real life?

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1. It is NOT a christian "claim", it is a biblical fact.

2. That you find it much more "absurd" than quranic injunctions to "kill apostates" or "sex with 9 yr olds" says a lot more about you than the "claim" itself.

3. to believe in Jesus as Lord is not by force, you reserve the right to deny it just as much as we reserve the right to believe it without your validation.

4. The problem you have with the "claim" has less to do with its validity but much more to do with your own spiritual issues.

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Although i am not muslim, i must state that the christian claim that Jesus is God is a thousand times more absurd than anything contained in Islam. It's far more absurd and laughable than Islamic justification of their Paedophile prophet.

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Thank God you admitted it, alas

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@gerald.

Exactly !

Jesus even encouraged buying of sword so that they can fight for God see luke 22:35-36

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@Abuzola,pls send me ur email addy

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Did Noah fight for God? I think he did, by Gods power, he drowned a lot of bad guys there by killing them.

Why did God kill Jesus to forgive us our sins?

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@petres. We are not going to do anything to him, Allah has given him grace to repent else Wallayi He will grasp him with a final grasp. From death He will realize his greatest mistake, the angels will strike him, has he not travelled and see the end of those who blaspheme.

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@petres, uplawal had said the truth, very soon we are going to eliminate the scorn, he lacks manner, he is obsess with the successful of Islam and thats what is making him pour insult on God and His messenger. The hypocrite had forgotten that Allah is the arabic word for God. The insult have to stop and we are going to stop him by force, mark my word

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What a daft ! Is a pity to see you and your pastor acting imbecilic because of Islam. Thats very Good. It is God's punishment.

David fought for God see 2 samuel 12:13

samuel fought for God see 1 samuel 15:2-3

moses fought for God see Number 31:16-18,

Isaiah fought for God see Isaiah 13:16

ezekiel fought for God see Ezekiel 9:5-6

shame on you

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Ezekiel "fought for God"? You must be refering to another islamic creation here. The REAL Jewish Ezekiel was a mere prophet.

David and Moses "fought" NOT for God's message of salvation but as secular leaders of a nation.

Good try attempting to justify islam's thirst for blood.

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As for jesus, he was never a christian but a muslim even some christian acknowledged he wasn't a xtrian.

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@godson- It amaze me to see the christian so naive, david, moses, ezekiel etc all fought for GOD,

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Really ? What a hypocrite !

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Smile. He is in trouble

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@Abuzola,leave him let him continue,he thinks his dead god's blood will save him,before he knows it hes gone deep,and if you think you can use the best internet security,you missed it cos WE, i say again WE, UNLOCK IT,and u will be suprised

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@david-

Why is the christian denomination in doubt about jesus crucifiction huh ? So save ur lies. God knows it and thats why He revealed to Prophet muhammad the truth so that you will not be in doubt that jesus never die. ',,, and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowlege, they follow nothing but conjecture. For sure they killed him not, jesus the son of mary' Quran 4:157-158

God lifted jesus

158: 'And Allah raised him (jesus) up unto Himself. And Allah is Ever All Powerful, All wise'

uplawal is not threatening you she is telling you the bitter truth, in replying you used to insult God and Muhammad thats just ur crime, why not avoid insult and lets thread peacefully, with the few months i know thee you are obsess with the success of Islam

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@Davidylan and Uplawal: « #35 on: Today at 02:52:58 AM »

But am shocked that you say that they are followers of a religion with dead god! We in Islam do not have Jesus as god. It is therefore you who is the follower of a religion with dead god, since you claim that Jesus died if only for part of three (3) days! No?

David is probably regretting that he called my attention to this thread, just about now! no, as you are reading the reality of your Biblical Jesus, please limit it to your side of the aisle, we do not worship or follow a dead god in Islam, we are worship of the Unseen God the Creator Allah the Almighty, the Irresistable. Is there any God but He alone, the one Solely sort out as to be deserving all worship?

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If this is your dissertation i hope they send you back to do over, except that it was a Christian professor who you fooled with your mutual emotional leaning!

A fool is actaully born every day!

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@Davidylan: « #13 on: Yesterday at 11:22:28 PM »

The same word that you have used to qualify him, Muslim have used to indicate how he was created, a commitment that God gave of a thing that He God must do, through the virgin Mary because God decided it, and a command of bringing things to reality as in command to begin to happen, same was used for bringing Adam up as a living fully grown man from admixture of sand and water!

And without wasting any valuable time, did Jesus meet Abraham, yet he said he was before Abraham, but Muhammad who is the Messenger and Prophet of God to all mankind does not have to meet them before his Lord reveals ithe story of these men and indeed Jesus included to him. Or did God not know Jesus?

But wait a minute, Muhammad (AS) met Jesus and others twice: He led them and Jibril in a prayer called salatul Al Ibrahima in Masjid Aqsa in ilya.

Secondly when he was ascending to the the seventh heaven and beyond. He saw jesus and his cousin John in the 2nd heaven above Adam who was in 1st heaven to see the souls of his children as they die and passing, and below 3rd where Idris (Enoch) is elevated above the second is residing!

The facts are the Quranic stories are divergences and truly correct and unique from the Biblical Jewish since the Christians dont have their own, and you can make a litmus test on any story you wish to make as your trial run between islam and Judaismm and Christianity.

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@Bobbyaf: « #11 on: Yesterday at 10:49:35 PM »

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@Davidylan: « #9 on: Yesterday at 10:27:17 PM »

If you say binded to a single Book, yes, not written down is an absurd statement! Jesus reading of the four instead of everything with his claims that the scribes entered what they wished to enter, is an admission that the Bible was already corrupt, and by the time the Quran verse that proclaimed that the Bible is impure, and going by your statement that the copyist made mistakes, we must not accept that it has 100% purity, for whatever has mistake can not be without mistake, hence an indcation of corruption!

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Davidlyan,if you wanna see ur grand children becareful,about ISLAM being protected,yes its been before u were born and it will everly be protected till judegement day,but that does not mean you should run ur mouth like water,anything can happen,BEWARE,and if you think JESUSBLOOD will save you, o, you get it wrong,it wont and u will blame yourself for causing your own death in HELLFIRE

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Satanic coward . . . i'm patiently waiting. Spineless followers of a religion with a dead "god" who needs them to run around threatening others when they cant defend the apparent lies and deception.

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if you like make it bolder than that,who cares? its for you and nobodyexcept they wanna have a share,KELERU GBERUE,

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If Allah could save he wont need you threatening to kill me to preserve islam and its many many lies.

If there is "no single fraud in islam" you wont need to threaten us with physical death to protect islam.

your very words condemn you and Allah.

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i would tell you again,theres is no single fraud in ISLAM,and if you think this is a THREAT continue and see if JESUS BLOOD would save you

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whre? Please show us!

Lets even humor your lies and assume its there . . . in what capacity would it be there? Retelling a jewish story more than 500 yrs AFTER it happened? What a fraud Allah is.

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How jesus was lifted is in the Quran, So stop being naive. Jesus a messiah of Israel and coming to defeat the enemy in near the last day.

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@godson, what you posted doesn't make sense. Next time make it elegant. The fact that God said the pagan said God have angel daughters doesn't need any story, they accuse and is their saying

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Is Allah now claiming the ascension of Christ as his own? Who lifted Christ up and why is this monumental miracle COMPLETELY absent from the quran except as a mere claim? Virtually 90% of the new testament books attest to this FACT and even ALL 4 gospels mention it by eye-witness accounts.

This is frankly absurd . . . what does being a "saviour of Israel" mean?

And why have you not addressed the term "word of God" as pertains to islam?

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check your quran in 53;19-23

have you considered el lat,el uzza and manat the third the other,what have you males and he females?that were indeed an unjust division.they are naught but names yourselves have named and your fathers;GOD has sent down no authority touching them.

as you can see mohammad is justifying them,these verses so called the satanic verses were later removed when he realised how contradictory it was lol lol

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Jesus is coming back because he was lifted and he will descend and die then be buried.

Jesus being a messiah is because jesus was the last saviour of the house israel, moses was the first saviour. Jesus came to guide them after they have differed and he will the indeed messiah when he descend in his second coming and kill the unbelievers who are terrorizing the muslim

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We dont need google search . . . why is Christ refered to as the Messiah and the "word of God" in the quran? What do those mean in islam? Pls Explain.

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Go and do ur google search and bring just 3 contradiction and see if you won't be whpe off ur ignorance

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we know jesus is coming back,you lifted that from us,is mohammad coming back?

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Godson, i will be glad if you can point to me one contradiction in the Quran.

@david, jesus is a muslim so shut up , he is coming back and we will see.

CHRISTIAN TOO STEAL THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE JEWS AND EDITTED IT LYING THAT JESUS PROPHESIED TO BE CRUCIFIED WHICH IS ABSENT IN THE JEWISH BOOK

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this is a muslim lie . . . made up to steal the rich religious histories of the jews to lend legitimacy to the fraud called islam.

I wonder why islam CANNOT STAND ON ITS OWN TWO FEET . . .

i wonder why it must BY FORCE associate itself with the God of the jews.

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alhaji could you tell me why you muslims look miserable and sort of angry anytime you r worshipping your own god?seeing as you r used to plagiarising from us, our origins in the bible,our doctrines,you even followed redeemed and pastor adeboye to redemption camp lol

i learnt just last month that muslims are now doing open air revival in their camp along lag ibadan expressway lol lol got me guffawing

i think you should learn from us i.e the way we sing and dance and worship GOD

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which is funny because we dont see any trace of this "true Jesus of God" anywhere in the quran save for a few haphazard claims by people who never met him.

funny because the main source of the words of this "true Jesus of God" comes from the bible that muslims reject.

Funny because this "true Jesus of God" is called the Messiah and "word of God" in the quran . . . words that have NO MEANING in islam.

Isnt it funny this same person says he hates lies.

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@boby, no no no, the true jesus of God is our beloved, do you know that in Islam if you single out one messenger of God be it moses or jesus or isaiah you are not a muslim ? The God that sent them was the God that sent Prophet Muhammad

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So why is it that Muslims are free to be Muslims in Christian countries and the reverse isn't tolerated in Muslim countries?

Its obvious that the text under quote has been misunderstood by you, because deep down you know what Jesus was trying to say.

Incidentally the word hate is a strong word in that verse, but when one is faced with a decision betteen Jesus and family, one has to choose Jesus. In essence that will cause hatred in any family.

I am sure Muslims who have accepted Jesus have been treated with hate.

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Its not unbelievable, there is no doubt there are a few copyist errors in the bible that do nothing to invalidate its authenticity. That same bible goes on to CLEARLY tell us which age was correct (22 or 42).

1 Kings 8:17 tells us what age Ahaziah's father died (40), unless Ahaziah was born before his father there is no way 42 is correct, the right answer would be 22.

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Which is absurd because Christ is recorded as quoting from Deuteronomy, Genesis, Isaiah and the book of psalms.

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Hey godson. Hope you opened ur bible and confirmed the vivid descrepancy on Ahaziah.

The bible was written by men in the 4th century, jesus never of it so don't be chewed.

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i bet each time the bible comes up with an answer to everything,it burns you up with anger right?lol lol

dont hate,appreciate lol lol

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What a freaky liar

how old was ahaziah when he began to rule jerusalem ? Twenty two (2 kings 8:26)

is a lie, its forty two (2 chronicles 22:2)

unbelieveable right ?

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