that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
woooooo touchy touchy pls find me the place in the Quran where it atates that he married a[b] 6[/b] year old and had sex with her when she was 9
since you know enough already,
today has been my day really
davidylan and babyosisi called me a juvenile
m4malik said i didnt kbnow anything bout ma religion
now softie says i cant read
lmao keep em comin people
I hear this all the time, and yet as often those who react this way are proving my statements - you either have not been following the news, or you're simply trying to pretend these things are not so, or you have been told not to see things objectively, or a myriade other things.
The 'facts' you want me to get straight are staring you in the face. And your reaction is proving my point. If as a Christian I reacted the way you just did by saying "if Iran wants to wipe isreal off the earth thats for them," I would be branded 'politically incorrect' by the West, and applauded by the Middle East. If on the other hand I had said: "If Israel wants to annihilate or wipe Iran and her supporters off the face of the earth, that's their problem", what do you think I'd be branded as?
Your reaction is not helping your case, and you're persuading me all the more to feel that the so-called Muslim "peace" shrinks and disappears the minute issues are presented where the mula wouldn't tread.
mukina2, don't go round these issues. If anyone is trying to defend themselves against a sensless and insane hate, it is Israel fighting for her continued existence against the lunacy of the Muslims of the Middle East who have categorical been calling for her annihilation.
What you are failing to see is that while Israel is not out to annihilate Muslims, it is muslims themselves who are reading the Qur'an and believing that "Allah" through Muhammad has ordained that lunacy of killing the Jews for no other reason than the seething and perennial hate that the prophet of Islam codified in the Qur'an.
Dont just watch CNN, go and study the history of Isreal and the middle east. A good start will be from 1948! In what way has Isreal been the aggressor? The same people who have had to give up land yr after yr in the name of peace deals that are routinely broken by the sons of destruction? Who started this present war? Have you listened to the utterances of the president and Mullahs in Iran? Has Isreal been threatening them? What of Osama bn Laden? Was he threatened by Isreal?
Dont just state propaganda fed to u on fridays, read!!!
That is the lie muslims have been perpetrating for yrs! That zionists are persecuting them and they cant sit and fold their hands and watch their house burn!
Fat lie! From the utterances of the likes of Saddam Hussein, late Anwar Sadat of Egypt, Syria, Hamas, Hizbollah and the president of Iran, we know that these are people that will not stop until Isreal is completely annihilated. It is not about defending themselves as they wish us to believe, everyone knows who the aggressors are! The intolerant and murderous sons of Mohammed!
I know that personally you as an individual are averse to violence, whether as a muslim, hindu or whatever else. The point is, by what is going on in the world today, Muslims have proven Islam for exactly what Muhammad crafted it to be - intolerant, violent, and hateful towards people of other faiths.
Thank you for all your efforts in providing those links to create awareness of what exactly Islam is in true colour. I was just imagining what grave danger politicians have put the world by cowardly and surreptitiously claiming that Islam is a "religion of peace." Now I understand the boldness of people like Gwaine on this Forum to expose such cowardice. Imagine if Christians were the ones chanting and holding placards with the words as seen in that video clip in the Muslim demonstrations! What then would they have said? This only confirms one thing to me: Islam is not peaceful by any stretch and is as violent as Muhammad crafted it. Those who are still advertizing it as a religion of peace should stop deceiving themselves.
To butress my point,look at a 'peaceful ' demonstration in London by regular muslims after the danish cartoons and read from their placards and listen to them talking about bombing and taking wives as booties in their chants.
Don't ever let these clowns fool you of being a "peaceful religion".
The are all made of terrorists and potential terrorists
No the same cannot be said about christianity. I think you are missing the point, YES most def child-molest should be stopped now in 2006!! but you are going off topic, the point is that MOHAMMED that called himself a PROPHET sent from God had sex with a 9 years old. This is the relgions millions of people are dying for in hope that they get 72 virgins in paradise. NOTHING like this can be said about Christianity because God does not surpport such nonsense.
There is no freedom of speech in Islam m4malik that is why they act so ignorant when the truth is being presented.
Olabowale,when you have a daughter,I hope you do not marry her off to a mullah at 9.
Geekgirl,the only reason it seems like Islam bashing is because the truth is often bitter,it is the truth anyway.
I agree with you that we should talk about child molestations of today,how can we when the Muslims here justify it and many as in the pictures posted still follow Mohammeds sickening example.
olabowale call down hellfire all you want,Muhammad was not a good moral example with a history of murders,pedophilia,multiple wives, and concubines.
Told his followers to marry 4 wives but had multiples of 4 for himself.
Give me a break.
I can hardly believe what I'm reading in yours. First, please try and follow the ethics of good writing by observing the rules (paragraphs, spellings, spacing) - they help to make a good read, even though what you might want to say is hardly sensible.
At the ripe age or 54 years, one would have thought you'd drop all hint of misinformation and be reasonable; but I observe you threw caution to the wind and made statements that shame that age. Pardon me, but see for yourself:
I understand you're upset by the posts you read exposing some of the very questionable practices of Muhammad that you couldn't hold back your derision, and decided that Nigerians are what you just described them as above. But the big question is, "How do you deny or counter the fact that Muhammad did exactly what he was said to have committed?" Did he do them or not?
A few questions: (a) what makes Muhammad 'the noblest' of all mankind - especially with the questionable moral life that he lived? (b) what makes Aisha the mother of believers - especially by the known fact that she was underaged as a wife of an elderly man, and was known to be hot tempered and quarrelsome? I can't believe you used the word "crock" to depict the matter of the marriage between Muhammad and Aisha, for the word 'crock' simply means 'nonsense'; so it would seem like you're saying: 'the nonsense (or balderdash) of the matter is that no one in their days frown on it' - meaning it was rather nonsensical that no one back then frowned on that event.
Excuse me sir, but Aisha was not 17 or 18 when Muhammad had sexual intercourse with her - by her own confession she was only 9 years old, and she was married off without her consent. Isn't that more worrisome than you're attempting to euphemize the situation? You may try to sell us the idea that that maturity does not have a benchmark age - but Aisha was not mature when those events happened. From what she narrated in the Hadith, it's easy to see that she was innocently immature when she was being 'arranged' as wife for an adult many years older than her to even be her grandfather.
And what is this baffling statement that "in the west children are now reaching it" (i.e., puberty)?? If, as you defined it, 'puberty is when a woman begins her period', could you please supply statistical data to confirm that, and thus convince us that children are now able to experience menstruation?? Please don't shame your age by making bogus statements like that.
Let's stop all this empty ideologies, please. The righteous and holy God would not give a 6 year old kid to a man old enough to be her grandfather - that is called pedophilia. The chronology of events don't confirm what you're persuaded to believe; rather, they expose the fallacy of this make-belief dream of Muhammad. According to several sources, when Muhammad approached Abu Bakr about this issue of taking the child Aisha for wife, her father was surprised and responded by saying: "But I am your brother!" The prophet's response? Read it: "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." (Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18). It is only after all this maneuvering that Muhammad came up with the dream to brainwash the innocent child that she was shown to him in a dream.
These are not lies - unless you want to say that it was the Hadith and Qur'an that are perpetrating the lies. Please, reason out your emotionalism and be as plain as the facts show, rather than try to twist issues.
Blah-blah-blah at most of what you're saying - they have no substance; and please pay some respect to Nigerian women.
Now, having gone through the various threads, it's obvious to me that some Muslims have actually spoken harshly against some prophets - Biblical or Qur'anic. I've met some others who have carelessly spoken unprintable things about God's prophets, all in the hope they are disparaging Christianity. So, your point here is a mute one.
Your assertion is bogus, because you cannot even begin to compare the matchless splendour and glory of Jesus Christ with Muhammad. We're not mad but reasoning people; and if you'd be fair to yourself, then please investigate the life of Muhammad, especially his claims and morality, and ask if he could be applauded in contrast to several who outshined him, talkless of Jesus Christ.
I'm sorry to observe that Muslims have not been able to provide us with reason, common sense, and thoughtful discussion on this issue. The point is that most of them would rather applaud this act, whether Aisha was used as bait or not; only very few of them would admit that it was wrong by any standard. What Muhammad did was wrong, and it's up to his adherents to convince us otherwise with thoughtful discussion devoid of dogma and frenzied emotionalism that the act of Muhammad's child-bride was not wrong. Otherwise, trying to deal with the issue of child-molest now is not going to yield any fruit.
Softee, truthfully speaking, the same can be said about Christianity. It doesn't have the most pristine of histories, either. And, I'm not negating what happened 1400 years ago. But, my point is that we can't change the past, but we can do something about child molest right now, because it's happening right now.
However, sadly, this is an Islam-bashing thread and Aisha was used as emotional bait. I am disappointed and his will be my last post in this thread. It is evident that thoughtful discussion was not the reason this thread was created. I am one who seeks real TRUTH, not dogma or frenzied emotionalism devoid of reason and common sense.
Please do not make excuses for mohammed, even he was not even sure if he was going to heaven. God said there are many FALSE prophets out there and a prophet who slept with a 9 year old MUST BE FALSE.
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Those of you who critized the beloved of the Allmerciful, donot you have any brain and be aware that calamity may befall you. You Nigerians, whose moral yardstick is so low that it is unbelieveable and your nation's nameif it is affiliated to an individual in business, he /she will be held in suspecious statue. I am almost 54 and my sexual drive is not as when i was 25 for example. The Arabs at that time are differnt from the people of this day. There are many classifications of adiths; very weak to very strong. As it concerns this relationship with the Noblest of all mankind, Muhammad (AS) and Mother of believers Aisha (RA), the crock of the matter is that no one in their days frown on it. Even now, in the USA, a woman who is not yet 18, say she is 17 if her parents gives written consent for her to marry, there is no law that will prevent it or charge any of the parties for wrong doing. Ther is no specific age for a person to reach puberty. Puberty is when a woman begins her period and in the west children are now reaching it even before some reach 9years of age. Yet others who are in their 20s may look so frail and immature that she may be considered to be under age. Maturity does not have a benchmark age. it is an individaul thing. Aisha (RA), was a special woman. She was from a noble family, whose father was also very wealthy, so it was not that she was not previleged. None of the Arabs who by and large were not Muslims and enemy of the prophets at that time critized him for this. God, the Almighty who sent him with the message of truth did not critized him. In fact, there are other adiths that pointed to the devine process in which the marriage occurred. The prophet (AS) dreamt where he met two angels and they presented him a gift. He ask them to unwrap the gift. It was Aisha that was in the wrap. The second dream was like the first, except that he Muhammad (AS) ask them what was in the gift and ased them to unwrap it. The result is the same thing. Oh, enemy of Muhammad (AS), you are for sure enemy of God. If you do not stop and mend your ways and seek the mercy and forgiveness of your lord Supreme, you will definately end up in hellfire. If you lie against the beloved of the creator your work will be naught. You see no muslim will talk harshly against any Prophet of God. I wonder wher you evil doers are from in nigeria, nay in the world. Look into yourselves first before you look into any one and you are not fit to talk about the character of Muhammad (AS) and not to even think you can critize him. Ask your male family members if at their age, no one wants a young bride. Your mother will be replaced by your father with a girl even less than half her age, if your father were allowed to make his own sincerest desire. How many of you men at 25, still a virgin. Very rare and you lack the moral statue to be so. Now, ask yourselves if you were 25 a virgin, would you marry a woman who is 40 years old as your first marriage partner and she had twice married at this time. How many of you women, who will marry a twice married man while you were still a virgin at 25, unless you have that special money issue associated with it. Nigerian women are known for their golddigging mindset and I am a Nigerian and i know it for sure. The statue of Muhammad (AS) is unattainable even for individual prophet that had passed on before him. For you to think, and you are all ordinary amounting to naughting that you can judge his moral value to the point that you begin to critize him, you have spoken in a mad person statue.
gwaine thanks for those links,I am so sickened by these perverts hiding under the cloak of religion be it Islam or Mormonism to inflict such psychological damage on Children.
The slide show picture of the 11 yr old bride giggling and covering her face in the picture almost drove me to tears.
How can we stop these monsters,are they too daft to deal with grown women that they have to molest children in the name of marriage.
I remember when our basketball superstar Hakeem Olajuwon at 30 something got married to his arabian bride that was barely finishing high school,I lost every respect I ever had for him.
I hear it is the nature of men to want to go where no man had been before but ppl,11,12 and 13 year olds are not women yet,they still need to be reminded to brush their teeth and wash their hands after using the toilet,this must be stopped.
@geekgirl,I also did feel like you were trying to make legitimate excuses when you said that the girl was of age.
We can mean something else and it comes across another way.No need for all the fighting.
Let's not deviate from the topic.
Give debosky a big hug and make up.Life's too short.
ma'am i'm sorry if i sounded like i was trying to antagonise you, but you stated i your post, you said it happened when she was 'of age' and that was what i was responding to. clearly u do not support it, but the fact that it happened 1400 years ago still doesnt make it acceptable.
a 'prophet' or 'saviour' should be worthy of emulation, in this case i respectfully state mohammed isn't. that is my small contribution to this thread.
now come here and give me a warm cuddly hug
@ Debosky - Your sarcasm was uncalled for and unneccessary. And your reading comprehension skills are weak if you think my post tried to justify what Muhammad did when I clearly stated that I was just passing on what I read. Don't post if you can't add anything meaningful to the discussion, which your little smartazz comment failed to do.
I understand you might be frustrated or angry about craddle-robbers. I am too. But, don't take your frustrations out on me because there will be trouble in Nairaland, ya feel me? I hate bullies.
It's true that the practice of child-brides is a present reality in so many parts of the world, including Nigeria. Most occurences stem from economic or social causes, as you'll find in this slide from the New York Times news feature (click on the highlighted link).
The problem is that when a person who claims to be a 'prophet' follows the precedence of a quizzical culture instead of setting people right according to God's mind, that trend will most probably be held as the norm centuries after, and in most cases would pass as doctrine for that religion. Another example is polygamy that was initially practised by the early Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints founded by Joseph Smith in the early 19th century). It passed into Mormon doctrine after several denials by its leaders previously, and then later it was abrogated by a 'revelation'. Even then, a splinter Mormon group still practises polygamy today in the United States, albeit in secrecy.
Certainly, most Muslims (especially in Western civilizations) would agree that, whether in the 15th or 21st century, child-brides are counter productive even in religious circles. Let us note also that some Jewish persuasions believe in the practice of pedophilia (sadly and shamefully so), but those who quickly want to equate that to the excuse of the Muslim practice in some parts of the world should realise just one thing: we are dealing with divine revelations in religions. I haven't read anywhere in the Pentateuch or the OT where God countenanced pedophilia by any Jew. It is simply wrong and should not be promoted.
In the face of this development, voices have not been silent, and several organizations are making concerted efforts to educate the general public that the practice is unhealthy, whether viewed religiously, socially or economically. Some organizations broaden their campaign beyond just the mere fight against pedophilia and child brides, so that the scope of such efforts includes the social ills of disrespect for women, trafficking in women and children for clandestine sex trades, prostitution tourism, etc. It's a whole racket that goes beyond child-sex. What is surprising is that some government authorities have been accused (with evidence) of these criminal activities, such as this report from Coalition Against Trafficking of Women shows (click on link). The same CATW reports that in America the issue is more problematic, including children ranging in age from 6 months to 6 years, being held in "involuntary servitude".
There are several other voices against the trend of the spiralling malady in contemporary Western culture, such as this article ("Religious tyrants twist tolerance for their own ends") - and guess where? In Canada.
Anyway, pedophilia is wrong by any standard; and particular in religious pursuits and insterests, it is sinister to excuse it under a 'revelation' that passes into doctrine.
My badd, everybody. I could have sworn that in my readings (somewhere) it said that she was a WOMAN when he had sex with her. If that's not the case, and apparently it's not -- because the documents posted on the thread were of her own words -- then that's inexcusable.
However, to be fair, there are many ethnic groups around the world that marry off 9 year old girls and the girls are mothers by the time they're 11 years old. And, that's going on NOW. What happened with Muhammad was over 1400 years ago. If we are going to be outraged by stuff like this, let's be outraged by the stuff going on NOW, and maybe a difference will be made.
I'm not convinced that Muhammad's marrying 6 year old Aisha was a political move - and one would have to wonder if Muhammad was then a Prophet or a Politician.
Second, for a man over 54 years of age to have had carnal knowledge of a 9 year old girl is inexcusable - and the girl in question was NOT of age when it happened!
I'm not a Muslim and I'm not a radical Christian either. However, out of my own curiosity regarding the world's different religions, I have learned a lot about different ones. The short and simple answer about Muhammad marrying a 6 year old is this:
Yes, Muhammad married the girl when she was 6 years old. However, that was a POLITICAL move.
HE DID NOT have an adult relationship with her, UNTIL she was OF AGE.
We have talked about this pedophilic tendendecies of a prophet so much in other threads and I am so sickened.
I wish to draw our attention,however to the current after math of being a child bride besides the psychological damage,
Thousands of girls and women in Northern Nigeria (Christians and Muslims) living with a condition called vvf,literally a connection between their bladders and womanliness ,some to the rectum brought about primarily by prolonged labor sometimes days of labor on these immature girls who are unable to push out the babies due to underdeveloped pelvic bone.
I am in no way soliciting funds for this mission,I am not an agent but if you decide to help after reading this,I'm sure God will bless you.
The awareness is mainly what I'm after.
It is quite obvious this girl was a little girl when mohammed had sexual intercorse with her even if her age isn't specific. I don't know why you muslims keep trying to stick up for a craddle-robber. Instead you should want to get the hell away from this instead of striving to get 72 virgins in heaven (ever wondered what happens when they run out). Please muslims this is not the reality of heaven. You should be running to give your life to Christ and walking with a real Man of/in God who walked in the form of humans in order to save us from nonsense like this!!
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Aisha wasn't 18 when 54 y.o. Muhammad married and had his way with her. Even if a 65 year old married an 18 year old, I would have no problem with that. But Aisha herself testified that she was only half that age (9 years old) when the prophet had intercourse with her (Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, Number 2116) - and this is the very thing that the general Muslim community and imams would not want the world to know about; so they excuse it away with "no one knows her true age when it happened!" Puleeeeze!
most sickening,imagine a little girl still playing with dolls with an old 53 year old monster.
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151: Na 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of
the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my
dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would call them to join and play
with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for
'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)
He also died in her arms
From Ibn Hisham page 682:
, that he heard Aisha [one of Muhammad's wives] say: "The apostle died in my bosom during my turn: [the night Muhammad was to spend sleeping with her] I had wronged none in regard to him. It was due to my ignorance and extreme youth that the apostle died in my arms."
Unnecessary repetition. However, here is my reply again.
I seemed to have been in such a hurry to repudiate the inconsistencies in the examples cited by Gwaine, TayoD, Davidylan etc, that I decided to work based on their statements, without bothering to provide background proof. Thus my stance on making assumptions. But I took your advice and did some research the result of which is below.
I must confess, you and Davidylan and mlks_baby are very persuasive arguementators. If you should know, a lot of questions you raise here make me ask myself some questions which I hitherto would not have bothered to ask. But, just as I try to fix those scenarios into real life situations, and possibly view them from a human perspective or more accurately put, from your perspective, I also see other occurences which re-strengthenes my faith in Islam, which I suspect you may not know or will not even consider. So, while I try to understand the reason and rationale behind Fatima's marriage and some other sundry issues which prove the humanity and fallibility of the Prophet of Islam (SAW), I also see practical solutions to the myriad of modern day problems, like interest free banking, a strict moral code to prevent almost all the trouble between contending forces in today's world and a lot of other laudable aspects of Islam which are the primary cause for my attraction to the religion. Mention must also be made of it's practicality as regards dealing with people who are intent on persecuting you, self defence and cohabitation with people who do not share the same beliefs.
All these make me stronger as a muslim, even as your queries make me have a better understanding of some situations which existed in the time of the Prophet (SAW), his actions and reactions to those situations ( whether wrong or right), and if those same constraints apply to me, and whether I can possibly improve upon them by following the later day corrections to those situations. So, I wouldn't say for instance that the Prophet rode on a camel, and therefore it's compulsory for me to ride on a camel. etc. etc. I hope you understand that Muslims are required not to follow a dogma but the principles. This said, I went to research the validity of your proofs of Ayesha's age and found the following.
Deaths of Abu Talib and Khadija. In 619 C.E. Abu Talib and Khadija died. Among the Muslims the year 619
C.E. came to be known as 'The Year of Sorrow'. Abu Talib had been more than a father to the Holy Prophet.
In spite of the strong pressure of the Quraish he had protected the Holy Prophet. Khadija had been for the
Holy Prophet more than a wife. She had placed all her wealth ,which was considerable, at his disposal. She
had given him love. She was the first person to be converted to Islam, and had been a pillar of strength for
the Holy Prophet as well as the Muslims.
The passing away of Abu Talib and Khadija created a great vacuum in the life of the Holy Prophet, and he
felt very lonely and disconsolate. In this hour of bereavement Abu Bakr tried to console the Holy Prophet,
and he spent most of his time in his company. It was the endeavor of Abu Bakr that he should as far as
possible fill the vacuum created by the deaths of Abu Talib and Khadija.
Holy Prophet's marriage with Sauda. At the instance of Khawla bint Hakim the Holy Prophet married
Sauda bint Zama'a. Sauda was an elderly lady and was among the early converts to Islam. She was a good
housewife, and looked very well after the house and the children of the Holy Prophet.
Proposal for engagement to Ayesha. Khawla bint Hakim suggested to the Holy Prophet that he should
marry some young lady as well who could keep him company. Whom could he marry, inquired the Holy
Prophet. Khawla suggested that Ayesha the daughter of Abu Bakr would be a good choice. The Holy
Prophet left it to Khawla to pursue the matter with Abu Bakr. Khawla approached Abu Bakr, and his wife
Umm Ruman and made the proposal for the engagement of Ayesha to the Holy Prophet. Abu Bakr felt
honored at the proposal, but his difficulty was that Ayesha was already engaged to Jubayr son of Mut'im,
and it was against Abu Bakr's code of conduct to break his pledge. When this difficulty was brought to the
notice of the Holy Prophet, he said that God would Himself provide a way out of the difficulty.
Mut'im. Abu Bakr called at the house of A1Mut'im. Al-Mut'im was still a disbeliever, and Mu'tim's wife said to
Abu Bakr "O son of Abu Qahafa, suppose we married our son to your daughter, you would turn him into an
infidel, and convert him to your religion". Abu Bakr made no reply, but turning to Mut'im said, "What does
she mean? " Mut'im said indifferently, "She is saying what you have heard."
Abu Bakr said, "This means that you repudiate the engagement." "So let it be," said Al-Mut'im.
Ayesha's engagement to the Holy Prophet. At the repudiation of the engagement by Al-Mut'im, Abu Bakr
felt happy, and returned home relieved of a great burden. God had Himself provided a way out of the
difficulty. Abu Bakr hastened with the good news to Khawla, and asked her to invite the Holy Prophet to his
house. The Holy Prophet responded to the call, and formally asked for the hand of Ayesha. Abu Bakr was
overwhelmed with joy and emotion and said, "O Prophet of God, all that I have is yours".
At a simple ceremony Ayesha was engaged to the Holy Prophet. It was, however, decided that the
actual marriage ceremony would be held later.
Age of Ayesha. In most of the accounts that have come down to us, it is stated that at the time of her
engagement to the Holy Prophet, Ayesha was a girl of six or seven years only. This appears to be an
understatement. We have it on record that when Abu Bakr became a Muslim his children included Abdur
Rahman, Abdullah, Asma, and Ayesha. Abu Bakr became a Muslim in 610 A.D. and Ayesha must be at
least eleven or twelve years of age at the time of her engagement, and not six or seven years.
Now to his marriage,
Marriage of Ayesha. When the Muslims were duly settled in Madina, and the families of the Holy
Prophet and Abu Bakr had come to Madina, it was decided that the formal ceremony of the marriage of
Ayesha the daughter of Abu Bakr to the Holy Prophet should be performed. Ayesha was now of age.
The crisis of Islam was over. The Holy Prophet was no longer a persecuted person; he was now the ruler of
Madina. The Holy Prophet needed a young lady by his side whom he could love. One day early in 623 C.E.,
the Holy Prophet accompanied by his companions went to the house of Abu Bakr at Sukh to seek the hand
of Ayesha in marriage.
Ayesha's account of marriage. Ayesha has left an account of the wedding day in the following
terms: "The Prophet of Allah came to our house where many of the companions were waiting. My mother
brought me sitting in a litter on two poles. She made me descend; then she smoothened my hair, and
washed my face with water. Then she led me to the door of the house where she stopped until I regained
my composure. Then she took me to where the Prophet of God was sitting in our house, and made me sit
near him saying, 'These are your people. May God bless them through you, and you through them'. The
people then left, and the Prophet consummated the marriage while in our house."
After the marriage. After the marriage, Ayesha was assigned a separate quarter adjoining the
mosque. Ayesha was handsome, intelligent and eloquent, and the Holy Prophet loved her intensely. The
marriage brought Abu Bakr still closer to the Holy Prophet. There is a tradition that once a companion
asked the Holy Prophet whom did he love most, and he said 'Ayesha'. 'And whom do you love next'
asked the companion, and the Holy Prophet said 'Her father Abu Bakr'.
Now, it is worthy to note two points;
Firstly, The Prophet got engaged to Ayesha at above 10 years since her father became a muslim at 610 AD, and Ayesha (RA) was already born then, and the year of the engagement was 619 AD.
Secondly, She was with her family until 623 AD when He (SAW) finally married her. Meaning she was probably older than 13 years, assuming that she was born in the year 610 AD just before her father converted to Islam. So you can see that the reports of six or nine years are most probably wrong.
When the Holy Prophet migrated to Yathrib he left his family at Makkah. When the Muslims had settled in
Yathrib (renamed Madina) the Holy Prophet and the other Muslims called their families to Madina. At the
time of migration, Sauda an elderly lady was the only wife of the Holy Prophet whom he had married after
the death of Khadija. About a year after his arrival in Madina, the Holy Prophet married Ayesha, a
daughter of Abu Bakr.
By this time, Fatima, the youngest daughter of the Holy Prophet had come of marriageable age, and the
Holy Prophet had to consider the question of her marriage. Abu Bakr waited on the Holy Prophet, and
asked for the hand of Fatima. The Holy Prophet made no answer. Thereafter Umar asked for the hand of
Fatima and the Holy Prophet maintained silence. In the Arabian society of the day, the disparity in the age
of the bride and the bridegroom did not matter. The Holy Prophet married Khadija when he was twenty-five
and she was forty, fifteen years older than him. Later the Holy Prophet, when over fifty, married Ayesha
yet within her teens. When the Holy Prophet did not respond to the requests of Abu Bakr or Umar he was
not bothered about the age question; his silence was due to the fact that he had to wait for the guidance
of God which was wont to get in all matters of importance affecting his person.
After the Battle of Badr, Ali made his suit. The Holy Prophet told Ali that he would give his reply after
consulting Fatima. The Holy Prophet consulted Fatima, and she maintained silence signifying her assent. In
the meantime the Holy Prophet received the revelation that God approved of the marriage of Fatima
with Ali. When Fatima the mother of Ali called on the Holy Prophet to press the suit on behalf of Ali, the Holy
Prophet was pleased to announce his acceptance.
According to all accounts that have come down to us, the marriage of Ali and Fatima was an ideal
marriage. It was a union of two great souls. Hafsa, a daughter of Umar and later a wife of the Holy
Prophet wrote some verses highlighting the greatness of the pair. She said: Fatima is superior to
womankind in the world; she is the lady whose face shines as the full moon; she is the bride whose groom
excels all in Scholarship.
According to some authors Ali was twenty-one years old at the time of marriage, while Fatima was
sixteen years old. According to my research the date of the birth of Ali is to be placed around 599 C.E. and
on this basis he was 24/25 years old at the time of marriage. Fatima was born around 604 C.E. and on
this basis she was 19/20 years old at the time of marriage. There appears to be a tendency with the
writers of old to under estimate the ages of persons particularly women. In most of the books, for example,
it is said that at the time of her marriage with the Holy Prophet, Ayesha was a child barely nine years
old. Ayesha was more or less of the same age as Fatima or very nearly so, and was well within her teens
at the time of her marriage.
Undoubtedly the marriage of Ali and Fatima was an ideal marriage as the marriage was performed
by the Holy Prophet in accordance with the will of God, it could not be anything but an ideal marriage. As
an ideal marriage it should have been a happy marriage. In this context two aspects of the case need
special consideration. One is the economic factor and the other is the temperamental factor.
Now, having seen all these, you may accept or reject them ONLY if you can give proof of more authentic hadiths about these incidences. Most of this history is culled from Sahih Bukhari, and the commentary given by established Islamic teachers.
So, my friends please keep asking questions that attack the very morality that I cherish in Islam, so that I can put to test my knowledge about my beliefs.
Please always remember this revelations are from Hadith not Al-Quran.
* According to the generally accepted tradition, Ayesha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Ayesha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl". The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Ayesha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.
* According to a number of narratives, Ayesha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Ayesha's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them.
* According to almost all the historians Asma (ra), the elder sister of Ayesha (ra) was ten years older than Ayesha (ra). It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha (ra) should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Ayesha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.
* Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr (ra) reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the Jahiliyyah -- the pre Islamic period. Obviously, if Ayesha (ra) was born in the period of jahiliyyah, she could not have been less than 14 years in 1 AH -- the time she most likely got married.
* According to Ibn Hisham, the historian, Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam quite some time before Umar ibn Khattab (ra). This shows that Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam during the first year of Islam. While, if the narrative of Ayesha's (ra) marriage at seven years of age is held to be true, Ayesha (ra) should not have been born during the first year of Islam.
* Tabari has also reported that at the time Abu Bakr planned on migrating to Habshah (8 years before Hijrah), he went to Mut`am -- with whose son Ayesha (ra) was engaged -- and asked him to take Ayesha (ra) in his house as his son's wife. Mut`am refused, because Abu Bakr had embraced Islam, and subsequently his son divorced Ayesha (ra). Now, if Ayesha (ra) was only seven years old at the time of her marriage, she could not have been born at the time Abu Bakr decided on migrating to Habshah. On the basis of this report it seems only reasonable to assume that Ayesha (ra) had not only been born 8 years before hijrah, but was also a young lady, quite prepared for marriage.
* According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of Khadijah (ra), when Khaulah (ra) came to the Prophet (pbuh) advising him to marry again, the Prophet (pbuh) asked her regarding the choices she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)". When the Prophet (pbuh) asked about who the virgin was, Khaulah proposed Ayesha's (ra) name. All those who know the Arabic language, are aware that the word "bikr" in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine year old girl. The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady, and obviously a nine year old is not a "lady".
* According to Ibn Hajar, Fatimah (ra) was five years older than Ayesha (ra). Fatimah (ra) is reported to have been born when the Prophet (pbuh) was 35 years old. Thus, even if this information is taken to be correct, Ayesha (ra) could by no means be less than 14 years old at the time of hijrah, and 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage.
These are some of the major points that go against accepting the commonly known narrative regarding Ayesha's (ra) age at the time of her marriage.
Now the question is why the emphasis? Since the age at which she married the prophet is not really known specifically?