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Muslims: Are We Bad?

its quite unplesant people giving bad impression about we muslims. several times castigation av been place on us, even friends do make so many falacies about us , some we say they are bad, fundamenatlist, extremist, i found it obnoxious all this allegation, even they would we re beligerent, we get angry easily . these are tough statement that is too strong to categorize a set of people that are meant to serve their God deligently. somehow if a young cool muslim is seen , they would say " You don't look like a muslim" for God sake how should a muslim look like ? dirty, poor and unkept, is taht what they thin k we should look like . this is quite embarasing someone was telling me yestaerday that we have copied christian doctrine talking about night vigil ,i know siance av been 5 years old av ben attending tahjud(night vigil) thou they might not be as pronouncd as todays. we muslinms are wonderful set of people until u move close to us then u understand us. i remebered a christian girl friend of a muslim friend who before she gained admmisin to university had been fed with bad tales about muslims that she sould not get close to them util she met my friend they se realized that those statemmnt are falacious indeed, soon they wil be getting married.

Muslim are we bad as they says?

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Is this not focused ? That terrorist

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@post :

Muslims are very wicked, vicious and forever willing to slay, kill, and butcher. They don't have the spirit of forgiveness. The evidence is there for all to see. Farouk Muttalab attempted blowing himself up. He was obviously motivated by his Islamic brothers and from the Quran. It is the truth.

Every Muslim is a potential terrorist. Islamic religion is a religion that thrives in denying facts and reality.

They deny other people of different faith equal opportunity in their Islamic state, but want to claim the same in western nations and other Christian nations.

Any muslim reading this may not like what I have written, but it is true

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But he was trained by moslems Al Qaeda members and as a good muslim he obliged them to destroy lives of innocent souls

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of course, Islam thought him to blow himself up. Every muslim is commanded to carry out that atrocity in the name of Islam. If you are liberal Muslim, then you are a bad muslim. Every muslim is a satanic terrorist. Its part of their calling as muslims. So stop denying facts and veracity.

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@post:

The truth is Islam is a vicious faith and the origin of it is from the Quran.

The evidence of all these is there for all to see. Recently Farouk AbdulMuttalab attempted to blow himself up in an aeroplane bound for Detroit.

What type of religion will teach someone to blow himself up ? Certainly that religion does not come from God.

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@Todak

The above happened during the war time and I posted enough fact when I replied Lady. It happened when hypocrite brokered the peace treaty and would post it for you again to read without being biased. Olodo

88. Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way.

89. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-

90. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

Why should they be killed after all they did not attack, and also no compulsion in religion, well, i sense here that muhammad felt betrayed and punished them by sending them to hell.

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Narrated 'Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

I dont understand the above hadith please. Which hadith is the above please?

Who collected the hadith please?

\How can you understand, since you could not find something to coverup for the prophet, you came up with non-understading, how come, you are a conversant reader of the queran, hadith and the corrupt bible, so do not give me no for an answer, ok, afterall i gave you where to find it in the hadith, so you must give me the usual explanation for muhammad's action there.

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The facts show that Islam tolerates non - Muslim minorities within the Muslim Nation and treats them as independent nations free to worship and live according to their own religious laws. This was outlined in the Covenant of Medina which became the world's first written constitution in 622 AD.

If atall this was true then, why is it not true now, If want to travel to Saudi Arabia now, and if i happen to take my bible along, i will be jailed or if granted pardon, i will be deported immediately, so you are the one getting it wrong here ok. No muslim nation tolerate non- muslims not even christians, cos they know therever light shows up, darkness will depart.

Muhammad invited the Jews to join the new society as an independent nation, governed by rabbinical court, within the Muslim Nation. The Jews accepted and an agreement known as The Covenant of Medina was signed in 622 AD.

The covenant guaranteed all the parties equality and freedom of religion; emphasized the sanctity of Medina, life, and individual possessions; and prohibited crime.

The Covenant of Medina was a giant leap for mankind and established the basis for treating non-Muslim minorities within the Muslim Nation which ruled the civilized world for more than 8 centuries

The Crusades:

The "real" holy wars were waged by the Crusaders against the Muslims in the Middle East. The Crusaders were brutal in their treatment of Muslim prisoners of war and civilians. When the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem, they killed 70,000 Muslims. When the Muslims re-conquered the city they did not kill anybody.

Orthodox Christians were considered heretics and therefore did not escape the Crusaders' brutality. The Orthodox Churches, which were safe during centuries of Muslim rule, were looted by the Crusaders. The Holy Grail was not the only thing the Crusaders took from the Orthodox churches.

When Muslims ended the Crusades by re-conquering Acre from the Crusaders, Pope Nicolas IV barred Christians from selling timber to Muslims. This embargo did not result in persecution of the Christians in the Muslim countries.

Check my full response to Lady and be enlightened, Olodo Grin

Great history from a perfect liar, check out mine and tell me which come first

# 1.1 Byzantine–Arab Wars: 634-750

# 1.2 Conquest of Persia: 633-651

# 1.3 Conquest of Transoxiana: 662-709

# 1.4 Conquest of Sindh: 664-712

# 1.5 Conquest of Hispania: 711-718

# 1.6 Conquest of the Caucasus: 711-750

# 1.7 End of the Umayyad conquests: 718-750

# 1.8 Conquest of Nubia: 700-1606

# 1.9 Incursions into Southern Italy: 831-902

# 1.10 Conquest of Anatolia: 1060-1360

# 1.11 Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299-1453

The French Wars of Religion (1562 - 1598)

First Crusade 1095-1099

* 2.1.1 Siege of Jerusalem

* 2.1.2 Crusade of 1101

Second Crusade 1147–1149

Third Crusade 1187–1192

Fourth Crusade 1202–1204

Albigensian Crusade

Children's Crusade

Fifth Crusade 1217–1221

Sixth Crusade 1228–1229

Seventh Crusade 1248–1254

Eighth Crusade 1270

Ninth Crusade 1271–1272

Northern Crusades (Baltic and Germany)

Other crusades

* Crusade against the Tatars

* Crusades in the Balkans

* Aragonese Crusade

* Alexandrian Crusade

* Hussite Crusade

* Swedish Crusades

so tell me where did you get that, did Allah reveal it to you. Unfortunately you are wrong, go check again and next time do not evade from the truth, ITK

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@abdkabir,

Respect, i am really flabagasted by your posts, you seems cool headed to be a muslim, you treated the post with all sense of humour and backed out with dignity, i am impressed, but man, you really need to take alook at the islam world, what evil is being done to the world, take a good look at the Sept. 11. 2001, nigerians were amongst those that died, it is obidience to the words of Allah and muhammad, where do they get their inspiration from: the same quran you read which taught you to be cool headed taught then to be aggressive just like babs and others. well, keep it up, you will surely see the way out of the dark tunnel. ok.

NO, Muslims are not bad.

Only if you justify

1 Q.4:89 - "They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

2 And from the Hadith:Hadith Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57

Narrated 'Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Then will i agree with you. cos it is one thing to know a man's character and another to know what his religion taught him, and as far as muslims claim, ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE, now tell me WHAT IS THE PEACE IN THAT HORRIBLE VERSE AND DEATH WARRANT ISSUED BY THE COMMANDER IN CHEIF OF ISLAMIC FORCES IN THE HADITH. EXPLAIN.

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NO, Muslims are not bad.

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it is sad that you think this of Islam and if you are christian then you think most of every thing in the bible are bad because most the teaching in the bible are in the Qur'an hate is evil and if you hate then you are more evil then the terrorist. As a muslim i nor any muslim can condone violence and as for the ones that do bombings they are misled as you are and they do not enter the gates of heaven. But i do not hate you for that because thats what you been taught as they where to so its on both sides its pretty sad that you think the way you do and the only one that can save you is your self not anyone else nor apparently your beliefs. I will pray for you as a muslim and i pray for your family or friends that think the way you do.

Allah the great and all mighty

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I understand your concerns, but when moderate contemporary Muslims blame the atrocities of their fellow Muslims on excuses like "the work of devilishminded people. . .and . . . gualibility of the alimajiris," I'm forced to shake my head in disagreement because these same people get their inspiration both from the Qur'an and the example of Muhammad in the hadith.

Let's take a singular example - the killing of a Muslim convert to other religions, this is what the Qur'an says:

Q.4:89 - "They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

You are taking bits from the Qur'an and putting them in to context in which you want to believe which is what the the suicide bombers are taught it is easy to do it but islam does not teach to hate or judge people for what they do or believe. As a Muslim we do not condone violence and in my eyes anyone who does will not enter the gates of heaven and anyone who judges will not enter the gates of heaven you are misled as is 94% of americans and as a muslim i cannot be upset because you are uneducated about the concept. It is sad that many people are misinformed about muslims as a whole and only a small percent believe in bringing terror upon the innocence and when america does the same it is put into as casualties of war when americans bomb innocent women and children when they had nothing to do with bombings. Which is why alot of people dislike the views of americans. If you think your better than any human beings no matter what race,gender,or religion you are lower than that person or group.

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Well said.  The link below reveals some of the historical background as to the reasons why they behave the way they do.

http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/crusades_all_about.htm

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Are you delusional, or is it that you don't know history?

Please check history well and you will see that no one found trouble with muslims, they found trouble with the world. No one paid attention to muslims ans that pissed muhammad off, and then the whole "choose Islam or die" came about, and for 500 years of slaying and displacing christians and others from their homes no one fought back, it wasn't until muslims decided to touch the Holy Sepulchre (Christ's tomb) that Christians said enough is enough.

We didn't start the trouble, muslims did, and ever since then, muslims have sworn to make everyone miserable.

Israel didn't look for trouble with the muslims, muslims looked for trouble with Israel, you guys think they're apes and swine and all.

Go back and check history well please, and you will notice a trend with Islam. All these didn't start today, they started when Islam was started by muhammad. And ever sisnce then the world has had to protect itself from Islam.

I know there are mulsims that don't practice what the Quran calls for, thank God for that, but it would be nice if you guys actually reasoned a bit, and do some research to find out history. If you want to continue being a muslim, fine, but please acknowledge the facts about Islam and its history.

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In the whole world, if Muslims are bad who is good? You can believe that the good character you have ever came to meet, naturally comes out from Muslims. Nothing bad is from muslim when you take a look at the world's history.

In conclusion, the best peoples on the earth are MUSLIMS.

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and they are doing it in the name of Allah.

It's amazing how difficult it is for these chaps to condemn violence and provocative languages like this.

Even the so called peaceful ones cannot condemn evil because they are doing it in the name of jihad.

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@ abdkadir

did you take a good look at the picture on this page? It was not a picture from the 12th century but one from the 21st century! Unfortunately the message remains the same more than 9 centuries after:

slay, murder, butcher, kill!

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More and more intellectual Muslims are beginning to confess that Islam is not a religion of peace; and they speak thereto as a matter of its tenet rather than as one of recent events.

Islam is not the only religion that has been criticized. So many other religions have been slandered and blasphemed, and there have been bebates and dialogue to resolve issues rather than promote rancour. Admittedly, the slanders have not been abated by these efforts; yet people can move about their normal lives inspite of the unhappy situation.

However, a different response greets the situation when it comes to Islam. Just imagine for a few moments the reaction expressed by the following "peaceful" words: SLAY, BEHEAD, DEMOLITION, BUTCHER, ANNIHILATE, MASSACRE, EXTERMINATE. . . etc. Not to mention that Muslims who find such vocabulary expressive of "peace" are infact following the established doctrines of Muhammad in the Qur'an and the Hadith.

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Totally overwhelmed by the huge response to this Thread.I don't even know how to start.

Here we have a thread filled with the Intellectuals reeling out their English and the non intellectuals expressing themselves. Interestingly, @ times the correct person necesarily doesn't have to be the Sophisticated one.

Perhaps tonnes of years Back, when ISlam was controlling the then civilised World, Islam wouldn't be viewed as it is Today. Attempting to interprete the Quran out of the context of the revelation of a verse is indeed very very unfair. I advise those who relish attacking Religion to do a proper & fair study of the religion rather than jump @ conclusions.

Interestingly 4 me, i do not blame 2 much the majority of those here accusing Islam, The media has greatly helped in causing this Misinformation. So has a group of non tolerant , violent people who call 'em selves Muslims.

4 me, i will remain a Muslim and my allegiance remains to One, The One of all Days, Lord of Incomparable Majesty, The Lord of Host, the Father of us all, God of abdkabir,Muhammed,Jesus et al, THe Supreme One without whom there's no Power. I take Joy in Sharing this truth with my Fellow Xtains and nowadays i rather share testimonies or miracles in our lives than argue .Because we get no where when we argue.THis has been my personal Experience.

I strongly advise anyone who wants to take a critical look at the Quran to be Fair and use Commentaries like "The Holy Quran by Yusuf Ali". U will indeed be doing some justice by consulting such a Interpretaion/Commentary , which attempts to paint the prevailing circumstances causing that Revelation.

The harunyahya website is also a nice site to visit, to know what Islam says about various contemporary issues(www.harunyahya.com).

Cheers.

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muslims r not bad, they just like killing people n being violent = THEY R BAD!!

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u bet muslims r not bad!! just lyk d foto says!

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Muhammad did not do that to little Children. He had just one child bride, and not children.

There are a few well-educated Muslims who live very exemplary lives - morally and socially. Islam may be argued against by the very tenet preached in the Qur'an; but I don't think that people are bad just because they are Muslims.

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@ the topic: Muslims r BAD!! infact they r EVIL!! more than EVIL!! all they know is Violence!!!

Muslims r Bad!!!!!

Mohammed fuked little Children!!!!! n yet u ask if Muslims r Bad?!?!?!? HELL YES!!!!

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but the iliterate ehhh mm

THE NIGERIANS CNT BE FOOLED !

TRY AGAIN slowpoke

now u stuck im afraid u know. no let off

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never knew we are in grammar school hmmm

na waoooo! i tire oo

im sure the nigerians are still laughin @ this eurowhore hahha

that dnt mean $hit u bloody slowpoke fark that haaaaaaaaaaa

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see SUPPERDUMMY THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE IN THE UK you can't even construct a sentence , you never make sense, you talk your own topic on all threads, you really are SUPERDUMMY according to my girl Radiant. I like the name it suits you

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muslims are we bad?

hell no

we are just being misunderstood

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in a paper or in a bottle am not with you

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AND HOW DO U SMOKE IBO pls tell me

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haha thinkin! what inside hahaa just hate imaginin now

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diyobdw

baby is that u on ur profile

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Bia, muki muki,what is your own?

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JosBoy4Lif i take no effect to ur useless wish! wat more can superman say! but neither way i still wan vist kano and kaduna hope i dnt come across people like u!

sure there are good malams out there

god bless emm equal nigeria!

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babyosis you dont have to repeat urself,

i know what you are

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wishing death is forbideen but killing is not! When you read obviously contradictory and downright decietful posts such as these, you wonder if these people ever take the pains to read the quran they profess to follow! Where in the quran is the soul of man considered sacred? Is it not the same Allah who commanded the killing of Apes and Infidels?

Islam has nothing to do with a violence that is the bedrock of its philosophy?

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@Babyosisi: You are a smart woman. Can you tell us, for sure that it is Islam that makes one Muslim kills another. Islam has nothing to do with this. God has commanded goodness between Muslims and even the extension of it to all creations, humans and others. The one who kills any muslim wil have his/her place in Hellfire. Indeed, the one who takes life, violating the soul of the deceased, that one, will have a place in hell! Such a person has violated the commandment of the Most Powerful.

The issue of Darfur, is not as easy and straight forward as you may think of it. Most people professes faith with their lips, but the actions show different. A good population of Muslims is unhappy and saddened, by the general conditions of mankind, the killing that are taking place in the muslim communities.

African killing Africans, B;acks on Blacks killing, individually or communually is bad. The iraqi or others killing each other/one another is terrible. I am a muslim, i detest death. This quality, i take from Muhammad (AS). he said that wishing death is forbidden.

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Islam is more than evil; i support you.

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Google Darfur Sudan and see what the arab muslims are doing daily to muslim black women like you in the name of Allah.

Islam is evil,I still repeat.

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and so what?is homosexuality new?

wasn't Mohammed after little girls,what is the difference?

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This is the only intelligent posting not by a Christian in recent times.

The Muslims may need to ponder on this a while.

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really!

wait when the suya boys leave the mosque on friday! then u go remember who born monkei sound track ha

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Innocent Muslims have not been killed in this Earth ever?

You people should really go and study your history! It is only muslims who have shed blood?

Comeon lets be more realistic. Some riots in Nigeria have been also flared due to killing of muslims in the EAsT and Southern Nigeria. But this is called Retalliation?

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i hear you, you no hate christians and christianity; but why una dey kill christians for middle east plus northern nigeria?? Is that how to show love to people??

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its the same way christians need to inteprete their own bible well.

They keep judging muslims and its in the bible do not judge.

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Muslims are not bad, but they need to learn how to interprete their scriptures in a more liberal manner.

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babyosis is a christian on the net

no doubt a hater of Islam

and a hater of muslims

i dont hate her no do i hate her religion

i know it was her hateful comments that recruited a lot of people who claim to be holy christians.

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@Babyosisi: Am trying to be moderate. Its hard work. Unlike you have it down packed. Someday, you will have to teach me your method. Have you heard about the Homosexual congressman after little boys? That's something, heh?

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Moderate in food and drink and severe in swinging the blade.lol

Isn't Osama and them lot not fasting too?

You guys are confusing.

Did you hear the Pakistani president the other day who dared not speak ill of terrorists and call them by name or his head will be rolling on the river.

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Fast is not just skipping lunch or rearranging meals. Fasting, particularly, Ramadanentailsalot of day and night prayers and reading and supplications and doing good deeds.

Normally, Muslims and all people to eat enough food for 1/3 of the stomach, 1/3 drink and leave the remaining 1/3 for air. A meal that may be adequate for 1 person can accomodate 2 people. Muslims are supposed to be moderate ineverything. One is not to indulge in food and drink to much.

In Ramadan, extra prayers and reading of Qur'an are done at night. The fast must begin just before dawn. In the summer months, this is at about 2.45-3.15am. The fast is then broken at sunset. This could be very close to 9pm during summer months. Unfortunately, people are very weak and succumb to the pang of hunger. This should not be so. Muslims should be kind and merciful, in all cases.

the sweetness of Islam can only be experienced when you are in it. For one, God the Almighty Allah is the only focus. Nothing else. You will find the truth about Islam in America. This is what i have noticed. Of course, i was naive about Islam just until few years ago.

The good quality of the Muslims in American is not because of the law of the land alone, but the proper understanding of Islam. You see the exconvicts of violent crimes having the best of conduct. Most of them become a pillar of their core, extended family nd indeed their communities.

So you see, there is more than meet the eye. Take a second look at Islam. You will be descovering it for the first time.

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