God!!! I heard this few days ago and I couldnt stop crying. Its in papers everywhere. I just pray that its not true
God!!! I heard this few days ago and I couldnt stop crying. Its in papers everywhere. I just pray that its not true
Sin is a dangerous thing and it can lead to people ending up their lives in hell. However, this whole story seems to be pretty controversial. I would not be so intimidated and concerned over it. If that pastor is in hell, there is nothing to be done about it. If she is not, well, good for her. Apostle Paul said that each and every one of us should watch ourselves, because our own lives are the only thing we have the power over. So, just make sure you live in grace and close relationships with Jesus, as He has paid the price for you and forgave your sins. You can never make it to heaven on your own because of your good life. Stay in the grace of the Lord and bless His name and do not be confused or bothered with such “revelations”. The Word of living God is enough for you to be safe and saved.
It is either heaven or hell, whether christian, pagan, jew, greek, barbarians, musician, pastor, evangelist, bishop, chorister, prayer warrior, politician, reverend father, boy, girl, female, male, american, nigerian, ghanian, whoever you are, wherever you are from or whatever position you occupy, it is either your name is written in the book of life or not.
Ignorance Makes Us to Talk too much and Listen too much. Jude 1:7 talks about Sodom and Gomorrah set as an example of those suffering the judgement of everlasting fire. What is an example? An example is something you can see and learn from. We can see that Sodom and Gomorrah is completely non existent. Everlasting fire means complete non existence NO HOPE FOR RESURRECTION. WHEN PEOPLE SAY THESE THINGS THEY DENY THE HOPE OF RESURRECTION.
Please let us remember God's word concerning dead believers (no, who sleep):
1 Thess. 4:
13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1Cor 15:58 ¶ Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
IT IS A RUMOUR. OBADARE DENIED THE RUMOUR AND EVEN CURSED THE RUMOUR MONGER:
Bimbo Odukoya: Report on Obadare, a fabrication – CAC pastor
By THERESA ONWUGHALU
Friday, December 25, 2009
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More facts have emerged on the controversial publications about Apostle Timothy Obadare’s four days death, his resurrection, his vision of Pastor Bimbo Odukoya in hell as well as the CAC division.
Assistant General Superintendent of Christ Apostolic Church (CAC), Apostle Jimmy Olufemi Alabi has thrown more light on why the reports should not be relied upon.
The minister, who said the church was weary about the false allegations, dismissed them as malicious and slanderous write-ups.
In an interview with Daily Sun, Alabi, who is also the Patron of CAC, Obadare Centre Assembly, Agege, Lagos, said that Obadare was never in coma or hospitalised. “Okay, if he died, where did he die? Was it in Nigeria or abroad?” The cleric asked rhetorically.
Alabi, who was accompanied by the Assembly Pastor, Akin Aikulola, and Pastor Akin Alabi, pointed out that there was nothing true about the stories.
The publication is malicious
We are very much disturbed about the publications. According to them, Apostle Obadare died and rose after four days later and that he saw the late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya in hell and a number of other allegations. The news is not fair, it is not balance, it is malicious as well as slanderous.
Apostle Obadare did not die
Apostle Obadare did not die for four days. He had never died. He is alive, advanced in age and no longer conduct revival as he used to do. However, the magazine fabricated story and has published twice the same story yet no confirmation from the family. Nobody spoke to the family; nobody spoke to any pastor of the church or the ministry. Authorities of the Christ Apostolic Church were not cited. That of WOSEM, which is the evangelical arm of CAC was not contacted too. No family source was contacted or quoted.
They made wide allegations, the source is not credible. It said the pastor of the Redeemed Church of God was with us. No name was mentioned. To the best of my knowledge, the Redeemed Church has over 5000 pastors worldwide yet no name was mentioned. No branch or parish was mentioned. There was no reference to name or identity. So the source is fake.
Obadare never met Bimbo Odukoya
Also, the allegation was made that Obadare claimed to have met Pastor Odukoya’s wife in hell. I want to say that for someone who has worked closely with Apostle Obadare for the past 28 years, and as the Chairman of the National Publicity Committee of the Ministry, Papa never had contact with the late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya. They never met. He had never met her while she was alive. The person you have never met or known, to see the person and recognise her, is ridiculous. It is not true.
Division in CAC
What is more, there is also insinuation that Baba divided CAC; he should go back and return WOSEM to CAC. It should be known that till today, Apostle Obadare is the General Evangelist of the Christ Apostolic Church worldwide. He has not left CAC.
Secondly, WOSEM is the evangelical arm of CAC and has existed for 35 years. It organises crusades and does evangelism and if any church is founded, it is Christ Apostolic Church, where it is correctly called, Christ Apostolic Church, Obadare Centre. I can assure you that this church was founded through the evangelical activities of Obadare, through WOSEM. WOSEM is under CAC, Lion of Judah is also under CAC.
Baba is in the US now. When he heard all these, he was surprised and has committed everything to God.
For the Odukoya’s family
As for Pastor Odukoya, there is no contact. No message was received and none was sent.
Visitors to the church
People are coming around to ask questions and they are being told the truth. They are being made to know that, this newspaper is telling lies. They tell any lie just to sell their papers.
Advice to the public
They should be careful of what they buy and read in order not to be misguided.
On the government
We should pray for our president for quick recovery. Anybody can fall sick at any time. The constitution should be allowed to take its course. The constitution should be followed accordingly while we are praying for him. This government should not come to a halt. There are provisions in the constitution for any president who is unable to attend to his duty.
Please i want you all to read the above write up from Sun.all the informations about seeing Pastor Bimbo in hell are false.
Our God is not a partial God. He said in His word 'Without holiness no one will see the Lord. Do you know that this christian race we are into is not for the mighty and the word of the Lord is complete Be careful let not the first become the Last. What is just see in her case is that God has not count her worthy for the most precious gift i.e eternal life. you only see her on tv. but God sees all in all. what i can see is that every body should learn how to be the pastor,Prophet of his or herself.
read 1cor. 12:10
There are many intellectual idiots in Nigeria.why don't we confirm a story before carrying it about?
Immediately I heard the story, I told my dad who is a superitendent in CAC,then he called his friend,another Pastor(Pastor Kehinde) in CAC,who is close to daddy Obadare;when he(Pastor Kehinde) asked Obadare,the latter said it was all lies,that he didn't see and say anything.
Also,my friend that attends Life Oasis church in Oshogbo,said their pastor (Rev Olusola Areogun) said immediately he heard the story too ,he called his pastor in Akure to confirm from Prophet Obadare at WOSEM,Akure.On getting there,they said baba is in USA for medical treatment,so he collected his number to confirm from daddy obadare.when he asked Obadare,he said he didn't see and say anything that it was all lies from jobless people!
so Nigerians let's see visions that will better our lives not rubbish visions, [hiss],
I will like to let every one knows that Bimbo is in hell as written in all pages of the news papers. Let us change our ways for real and not to be in her shoe, knowing the reality after death. So many have been shown the heaven and horror of hell as record in the Bible. BEWARE Hell Is Real Heaven Is Real
please be careful of what u say.this cannot be judged or criticised just anyhow.this is a spiritual case that needs to be treated so.this can't be envisaged to be false.God's ways are are unknown, he is awesome.the matter can only be understood by real men of God.mere people can,t figure it out.be quiet if you don't know what to say.be wise
First of all, i'd like to say that all those who are using insultive words agianst prophet obadare, i feel really sorry for you 'cos the bible says that the only sin that will not be 4given you is the sin of blasphemy.
Secondly, why is everyone just concentrating on the part of the story that says bimbo odukoya is in hell? The story also claimed that prophet obadare was told by God to disband his church and return to the original CAC congregation. Let us use this as the criteria to know whether the story is true or false, if he indeed closes down his church, then the story is true. If he doesn't, then the story is false.
But as for me, Hell or no Hell, i have learnt the lesson God wants learnt from all this and it is, let us all walk with God uprightly and truthfully. The bible says: WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING. Don't follow any pastor, just follow wot is in the bible'cos on the judgemnet day, everyone is going to stand individually before the ALMIGHTY GOD!
Now to those of you who say wearing of trousers is not in the bible, have u not come across the scripture that says women should not put on men's clothing, we all know from time immemorial that trousers is men's clothing, then they started making trousers for women, i think christians should stop choosing parts of the bible they want to obey and parts they want to disobey, if head covering and wearing of men's apparel is not important, y is it in the bible? some say it was paul who said it but the bible says not a word of God in the bible will drop to the ground and all scripture is giving by the inspiration from God. So wot are we talking about?
i'd rather say every on e would give account of every thing he say.and the same bible says touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm.that could be interpreted in so many ways.those that criticised the man of god do not know the implication that's why they've been using their tongue anyhow.when every one dies, you are transformed from your physical fashion to into the spirit.and u will regain all your deficient physical disability.so i pray all u ve said won't be used against u on judgement day.watch
Can't believe there's a long discussion over this. When the answer is as obvious as day. . .
The man is SENILE.
And this is not an insult. Senility is not that far fetched in people his age. Add that to the fact that he prolly never approved of Odukoya in her life time and always believed she'd go to hell. . .and you have a good combination for this kinda nonsense talk.
Personally, i'm not shocked at it, what leaves me speechless is the fact that supposedly intelligent people are giving it more than the 10 secs thought it deserves. I tell ya, Nigerians never cease to amaze me. We just like to complicate things sha, if it doesn't make you twist yourself into a pretzel trying to understand it, them sum'n is wrong somewhere.
Sometimes it's okay to seek the simplest explanation which in this case is SENILITY + WISHFUL THINKING.
hmnnn, Well im really happy the said publication is false, cuz i cant imagine Bimbo Odukoya in hell, and im really amazed at wat some people here are saying about Prophet Obadare, mayb u guys dont know the man, cuz if u really do, then u will beg God for forgivness on all ur negative comments, cuz even the Bible speaks about speaking evil about Gods annointed, we shldnt speak in the heat of the moment, and commit sin,
Finally, a rejoinder from WOSEM Management (Prophet Obadare's ministry). It is in today's PUNCH (page 57).
It states among other things:
"The said publication is false, untrue, unsubstantiated and malicious.
"At no time did Apostle Dr. T. O. Obadare die, neither did he grant any interview to any pressman. "
So, what was the motive of the publishers of the said publication?
Fellow audience, I hav to summarise some issues about what geolabio and some other guys hav said inorder to clarify points:
(i) Pastor obadare didnt die bt might probably nt knw how to express the statement by sayin that he died.
(ii) In heaven u dnt need to be a mathematician to enter heaven or see it.
(iii) Obadare waz nt thrown into hell bt waz shown the picture of what it feels like ni!
@crude-oil, wha? nothing like hell? abegi, go read Rev. 21:5, 22:5. My broda, heaven and hell is real./ As for those critics am so sorwi. Go read the account of John in the book of Rev 1:1-7, , Obadare didnt die, he was translated. About the issue of skirt and trousers, it's not only dressing that God will use to judge, there many sins we commit and we dnt knw they're wrong!
I beg make nna stop analising if pastor bimbo's story is true of not. the bottom line is.we all still have life and we should live well. let God judge.
But hardly do you see true men of God die from such a painfull accident.i know some one who saw her been rescued from the reckage,he said he kept asking God why would he allow her to go thru so much pain?
i was told she was going to minister in a redeem church? but they did not even make a comment about it. thats the only part i can not understand about her death. as for hell or heaven, there is notting anyone can do about that now, its too late. forget it just learn from it.
Y'all have been very interesting so far, and needless to say, the heat generated by this (mis)story has been of monumental proportions.
However, answer me these:
Women Ministers who live in America, London e.t.c dresses in trousers, skirtsuits etc 24/7. Does that make them less of a Godly person?
If Pastor Bimbo were to go to hell because she wears trousers(ha ha), then those other women ministers that wears trousers all over the world too would go to hell -right? surely there can't be double standards applied?
Is it only in Naija that a Christian woman commits sin by wearing trousers? If the same woman travels out of Nigeria to US for instance, then it suddenly is alright for her to wear trousers and "God" would understand abi?
If Pastor Bimbo were to live in London and wears trousers, would she then be allowed to "enter" heaven?
Do Jewish women not wear trousers? and mini skirts? and hot pants? e.t.c ? wake up people!!
Who says Trousers is the exclusive preserve of Men anyway? and where does the Bible mention trousers?
If women are condemned to Hell for wearing trousers, then all Scotsmen (who traditionally wears skirts called skittles) would go to hell as well; all men from Delta state in Nigeria as well as Igbo men would surely go to hell because their traditional attire incorporates the female wrapper,
The point Im making is this: As educated people, there's nothing wrong in applying logic and reason to issues(religious issues included). Indeed, the Bible encourages us to "search all things" so that we can hold that which is true.
Did Prophet Obadare die? No
Was he in a Coma? Yes
Did he see "Visions"? Maybe
Does his Visions translate to fact? Definitely not! Its his own opinion.
Is there any way of verifying this "visions"? No
See? so why should we lose our cool over outrageous claims like these?
The questions we should ask are:
1. Did Prophet Obadare actually call the husband of the deceased as reported? If yes, what did the husband say? The response shuld have been provided to autheticate the story
2. Did Pastor Bimbo ever wear mini-skirt during her lifetime? If yes, when and where was this seen?
3. If indeed the prophet's son refuted his father's alleged interview and did apologize to Pastor Taiwo, why has he not refuted same in the media as promised over 2 weeks ago? This suggests that his most likely said something similar to that cos I was once in the fold of the Apostolic and I knw what they can do and say abt. new generational churches arising out of envy that most of their children that are supposed to take after them now diligently follow the precepts of the new churches.
4. Why was wisdom not applied by the prophet by telling it to the christian association (at most) so that the christian movement is not ridiculed by the unbelievers and even believers who are just strengthening their feet in the ministry from a shallow past? Or don't we think this can further delude the souls we are suposed to be winning as fishers of men?
5. Why was the newspaper so quick to publish the story without confirming the authenticity of what Baba said abt. calling the deceased's husband? even if they think he will deny it, this should have been verified at least to confirm the authenticity of the interview. This in itself, calls for the media association to regulate the prcatice of the profession.
So many questions but no answers, I just think the point could have been made without mentioning names and people will still have gotten the message to look inwards and reconciled their ways to God, To God be the glory!
I was not in the country when this news started making the rounds, but my first reaction to it when I returned was: When and where on earth did Pastor Bimbo wear mini-skirts? I should know if she ever wore a mini-skirt because I worked closely with her husband for about six years before she passed on to glory. I saw her practically everyday (whenever she was in town) but not once did I see her in a mini-skirt.
Because of her SU background, there were just some things Pastor Bimbo never did, and that included wearing trousers and mini-skirts.
As a rule, Pastor Bimbo did not allow anyone in 'mini' to enter her home. No member of the praise and worship team in church was allowed to minister if she wore a mini-skirt or trousers. And that rule still stands till date. So why would she be sent to hell for what she did not do?
Well, her husband, Pastor Taiwo Odukoya, reacted for the first time to the news yesterday during a church service. He debunked insinuations that his former wife, Bimbo, ever wore mini-skirts. According to him, one Paul Obadare (Rev. Obadare's son) called him about three weeks ago to deny that his father ever died or saw a vision of Pastor Bimbo in hell.
Pastor Taiwo could not make a public statement before yesterday because there was an agreement between the said Paul and himself that their ministry (Obadare ministry, which I believe is being supervised by the said Paul right now) would issue a refutation. It is amazing that, till now, no such refutation has been done.
I am really curious to know what the motive of the publishers of the magazine (a relatively unknown one at that) was for publishing that story.