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The Purpose of Life (why were we created?)

Why were we created? (Purpose of existence)

This question when asked so many people they couldnt answer. Well i don't think they don't really know but I think They havent discovered it.

Are we created to serve God or gods or to make real cool cash?

Your own view.

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I wonder why its so difficult to get reasons for creation. . .its not that hard, you guys can just make it up like you do everything else.

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I cannot answer for the OP. However, questions like that draw my comments. When you ask about 'proof' for this or that, it makes me wonder about a few things:

1. What kind of 'proof' are you asking for? And whatever type/kind of 'proof' you seek, one would hope that you are well grounded in the discipline of that type of 'proof'.

2. One the other hand, what 'proof' do you have (if any) to suggest the direct opposite - that we were not created?

3. I do not know what exactly is the purpose of creation; although that is something that cannot be narrowed down to just one thing.

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do u have proof that life has a purpose and that we were created?

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@Pastor AIO,

Thanks for the responses, quite interesting. This one first:

Well, it seemed possible that his statement was 'wrong', but I was being careful to not hastily conclude so - especially when I did not know where he was coming from. Perhaps, a small tuning ('dusting down') would be more preferable.

It's quite an enigma (IMO), whether we look at it subjectively or. . objectively. The subjective case may not be much of a problem, as we may each and everyone have our various take on the issue. But just how do we proceed with an objective realisation of what we intend here, before drawing any conclusions at all? Sincerely, I don't know - and it seems to me that previous attempts have not even scratch the surface of that enigma.

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Yes o. . . and there's of course the possiblity that its the work of super advanced beings like ourselves toying with an experiment. . .

The developing field of planetary engineering demonstrates this. . . man is already planning how to engineer planets. . . there is no reson to suppose that science cannot develop to the degree that in another 10, 000 years we are engineering new universes. . .

There are a million possibilities. . .

But all the possibilities do not obviate the cosmological question of a first cause. . .

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I don't see how the question is loaded. . . . Anyone willing to answer should do so based on his understanding or what his religion teaches. Religions don't presume they like to think they Know.

I just want an idea of Why according to different faiths.

This question bothered me while I was still christian and i'd love so see ideas about it.

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Tudor, have you considered that your question is loaded? First by asking 'why' you are presuming that there is an intention for creation, probably the intention of a Creator-God. I know that you don't believe in one, but if we are to 'presume' that this world is the work of a creator then, presuming that he/she/it is motivated like we are, the question 'why' could have any number of answers. It could be a whim. God created the universe just for kicks. Or there could be a specific purpose in which case we have to ask 'what is the source of that purpose/intention as separate from the universe for which the universe is created'?

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Pastor, i need your attention here -

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371493.0.html

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Nobody is answering the question as to WHY we were created. Basically all we've seen here is people laying down 'what' man is

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A philosopher once said that 'Religion was the opiate of the masses'. I don't think that his observation was sharp enough. If he looked closer he would have seen that Meaning is the opiate of the masses. Anything that provides meaning will serve as such opiate whether it be religion, political ideology, History, etc.

The question is: how objectively True are the meanings that we believe in? Which is better: to be in possession of unsound meaning or to be faced with an existential meaninglessness? The latter is what leads to the high suicide rates that yes are more common amongst the atheists.

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Could it be that Deepsight's statement is just plain wrong. Okay, if not wrong then in need of a dusting down.

That there is meaning at all is 'conclusive proof'(?) of a creator with a purpose? How do you arrive at that?

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Were you kidding? Weren't you kidding? I can't tell but either way that's a fine point, very well put, and I might yet use it myself in the future.

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What do we understand by the word 'meaning'? For me, meaning is simply a reference. When I ask what does something means, what I am saying is what does it refer to. Meaning suggests that there is an interconnectedness between events in the universe. So various events point to, refer to, are connected to, various other events.

When I ask what 'Je t'aime' means, you can answer that it means 'I love you'. In other words Je t'aime refers to, is connected to, I love you.

I walk into your room and I'm surprised to find books and papers scattered all over your desk. "What does this all mean I ask"?

To which you respond, "I have that big exam tomorrow, remember? I have a lot of reading up to do." The open books are connected to the exam tomorrow, they are not just there independently for no reason.

"Why did the apple fall from the tree?"

"Because there is a force called gravity that emanates from material bodies and gravity pulls the apple to the earth"

The falling apple is a reference to a reality that we have not experienced first hand. No one has ever seen the force of gravity. If the apple falls slower to the ground that Means that gravity is lesser.

To say that there is no meaning in existence is to go against every instinct in the human mind, and against all our experience. We instinctively seek for meaning because we believe intrinsically that events are connected to other events and do not occur independently. Without this instinctive belief in meaning, there would be no science at all.

Most of the recalcitrance against the idea of meaningfulness comes from existentialists/atheists resenting the Idea that the perceivable universe makes a reference to another metaphysical reality.

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Ah, there - you had anticipated me on that one. I had tried to draw the same point in the link I provided that says "(These figures are from the [b]W[/b]orld [b]H[/b]ealth [b]O[/b]rganization)". This is why I worry about people claiming low suicide rates for so-called 'atheist countries'.

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Hahaha. .  I can't laugh. My guy toneyb, that is not even an argument up there. You only are confirming a case against your own argument by acknowledging a low suicide rate for those 'atheist countries' rather than a no-sucide-rate at all. If those Scandinavian countries are anything to go by that appellation of 'atheist countries', you won't have any suicide - if that is what you want to maintain. I wonder: why are there suicides in those countries at all?

The thing is that we all share a common humanity - atheists as well as theists of all shades are as damned to commit sucides and all sorts. Atheism does not make any better score on the chart as reason for low rates of suicide, and we should be careful about citing so-called research reports making this kind of silly connections. They are illiterate non-starters for the balance of views on matters like this. Why? Well, just as some may cite sources praising such 'atheist countries' as Sweden for low rates of suicides, other sources note that the same Sweden had a close tie with religious countries like the USA in that regard. An example below:

I often laugh at this totally unrelated quip of helping atheism with a face-lift on issues like this - as if atheism has anything to do with low rates of suicides, murders, deaths, crimes, etc. No, my guy. . nada, nothing, zilch. Our common humanity (religious or irreligious) record these problems and have nothing to do with 'atheist countries' versus 'theist countries'.

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You assume to much my friend, My concience does NOT feel "attacked" and it can never feel "attacked". You came with a false assumption that atheist have some imaginary thirst. That is false. As for your link here is what another person had to say about the ridiculous link.

"Please site the study you are referring to.

Edit: I found the study. It included 371 patients all diagnosed with major depression. Of this 371, only 66 where "not religiously affiliated." It does not even say that these 66 were atheists or agnostics or anything. Hmm, is there a correlation here that could be made about being "religiously affiliated" and having a higher risk of being depressed, ?

For starters, religiously affiliated *doesn't* mean atheist. Sure atheists are in that group, but it would include anyone who's not affiliated with a given church. You'll notice also that the religiously unaffiliated tended to be younger, unmarried, no children, and with less contact with family. ALL those things are correlated with poorer morale and higher suicide rates, irrespective of religion.

So what you're saying is, it's better to be, say, a Muslim than an agnostic or non-churchgoing Christian--and you have an ambiguous survey to back that statement up? All I can say is, color me unimpressed.

You should be ashamed of yourself. All you do is reemphasize to me how easily it is for people like you to lie or fudge the facts. Why is it so easy for you? Or did you not even read the study you are spouting off about?"

There you have it somebody had already answered you ridiculous and false assertion about atheist and suicide. If you want to make this argument, you would have to explain why highly atheist countries like Sweden, Estonia and Finland have such low suicide rates. Which other lie do you have up your sleeve?

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Suicide rates in the countries you mention are actually among the highest. Here is a WHO link for you to peruse http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/

I admit that i didn't do my argument a lot of good by giving the link to a study i haven't actually read. Am i ashamed? Not really. I was just looking for something to show you what the facts borne out in clinical practice by Psychiatrists say about the relationship between the absence of a religion and the incidence of suicide. There is a positive correlation, though Atheist psychiatrists like to argue against this, quoting dodgy 'confounding variables'.

Existential angst is common to ALL 'intelligent' humans at one point or the other in their life journeys. Some are pacified by 'religion', not necesarily Judeo-Christian. Those that aren't able to find the peace of religion resort to suicide (sometimes cloaked as euthenasia). Hence the unarguably higher rate of suicide in atheist countries.

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The thirst here is a metaphor for the desire of the created to reunite with the creator. Even the so called 'atheists', if they will be honest with themselves, have this thirst. It's just that a lot of them like to ignore it and then erect infantile ego defence mechanisms, all in the guise of trying to sound or behave 'intelligent'.

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Have you ever watched a nature flick? If you have theres no way on this earth you'd tell me animals aren't as curious too.

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^^^^Well i cant really argue with that given the run of human history replete with barbarisms, but you must still admit that the human stands higher than the animal in several respects including intelligence and an innate passion for wonder which is the wellspring of ambition that drives great acheivements like landing on the moon.

We are thirsty to see the universe and solve all its riddles which is not something that the animal can claim.

That thirst is partly what Beneli was referring to as being a thirst for God.

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Those 'meaningfulness' make no meaning to the basic man as like every animal its me, myself and I.

Its the society that has reformed man to a civilized being today if not we'll be every inch as wild as the lion i.e do whatever it takes to be comfortable and in control, stick with your pride when it favours you and when it don't to hell with it.

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^^^ Correct. There is duality in exstence. Positive and Negative elements are eternal. So yes, you have a point.

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God must indeed be dirty and rotten inside because anyone looking at mankind would dread the source of this wicked creature.

Like you said, a creator does not bequeath attributes it has not to its creation therefore all we are and all we will be is from God right?

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In my view, creation is nothing but intrinsic self-expression of the mind of the creator. I believe that the natural outward radiation of the substance of divinity is what emerges as creation.

God being a compound element, comprises an infinite mind that contains all and infinite permutations of existence.

This infinite mind being self-existent continuously pulsates in the reality of its live nature and that emits steady streams of creation which is nothing but the replica of the infinite permutations of existence contained in the universal mind.

Accordingly i do not subscribe to the belief that man was made to worship God per se.

I think that man is a natural manifestation of the mind of God, and in living (and living fully), God's thoughts reach expression and reality through man (and through everything else in existence).

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I agree especially with the bolded parts. My thoughts are that the 'consciousness' of man is a reflection of that intrinsic self-expression. This is the part of man that is created in the image of the divine and which yearns to be reunited with 'God'.  Recognition of that yearning for God and then acting on it is what I consider to be true worship.

David, the man reputably 'after Gods own heart', captured this yearning in the words of several of his Psalms. The first two verses of psalm 42, springs immediately to mind:

‘As the deer pants for streams of water,

so my soul pants for you, O God.

My soul thirsts for God, for the living God. ’

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Thanks for the question Tudor.

In my view, creation is nothing but intrinsic self-expression of the mind of the creator. I believe that the natural outward radiation of the substance of divinity is what emerges as creation.

God being a compound element, comprises an infinite mind that contains all and infinite permutations of existence.

This infinite mind being self-existent continuously pulsates in the reality of its live nature and that emitts steady streams of creation which is nothing but the replica of the infinite permutations of existence contained in the universal mind.

Accordingly i do not subscribe to the belief that man was made to worship God per se.

I think that man is a natural manifestation of the mind of God, and in living (and living fully), God's thoughts reach expression and reality through man (and through everything else in existence).

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The very existence of any meaningfulness in our lives, such as family, love, ambition or other reference points for meaningfulness, is evidence that life is not accidental, by chance, or meaningless.

Meaningfulness is conclusive evidence of the existence of a creator with a purpose and a personal nature.

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I wanted to create a thread with this title but decided to search and voila!

However I find no answers here.

My own question to the religionists would be in the frame of Why was man created? . . .why did god make Adam and Eve? What purpose were they supposed to accomplish.

If you're a creator you surely must have a reason for creating don't you?

And for the likes of deep sight who disregard the abrahamic faiths I also would be interested in what they think man was created for.

Anybody pls indulge me.

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What could be attractive in the life of a mere mortal, clayey humans, who in the name of civilization abandone God in their thoughts and lifestyle as if there's no place called heaven. Remember thy creator in the the days of thy youth, otherwise, He'l forget you eternally. Purpose is real.POSE FOR PURPOSE. www.menofpurposenetwork.org

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There are no purposes, you create one for yourself.

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my answer is in this link: www.menofpurposenetwork.org

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quite agree with the fact that we were created for a purpose which may vary due to individual differences and interests.

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i wonder many times why women respond better in church services than men.they run after men of God easily and attend programmes more.i'm yet to reolve in my mind wether they are easily deceivable or it's an act of religiousity and sincerity.

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All this is all about a wedding. We are all bride. It doesn't matter your calling. The ultimate goal is a wedding. Christ is the groom.

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dont let us confuse ourselfs here , " Purposeful driven life" , the purpose of creation or the purpose u work and set out goals, nature or nurture driven purposes?

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We were created to enjoy the good works of God and to just praise Him, worship Him and to live large.

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Ugly version.

There is no purpose but that you create for yourself. As much as you might want to believe that "God" has a plan for your life-- You made him have a plan. The funny thing is, you never know what the definitive plan is even after you die.

We seek meaning in life because we have evolved in cognition and consciousness. If we go back in time to nigeria, say 100 yrs ago, to them life needed very little purpose. Going back another 300-400, life was simply about survival.

So you see, if you break it down, it all boils down to pre-occupation-- what tickles you and what keeps you. People find their purpose everywhere and in everything; some find it in money/wealth, power, religion, sex, education/literacy, love/intimacy-- you name 'em.

My point is, perception is subjective.

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To affect lives positively

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SIMPLE!

To fulfil purpose.

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Good book! I recommend for the house.

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Check out " the purpose driven life" by Rick Warren. its a complete answer to the question

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The Word has this to say in 1peter 2:9: "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light".

It is a bit louder in the Amplified translation:

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a dedicated nation, [God's] own purchased, special people, that you may set forth the wonderful deeds and display the virtues and perfections of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

Also from Eph 2:10 of the Ampliofied Translation, it says:

For we are God's [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew] that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live].

Thank you.

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<? echo " no more yearn" ; ?>

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[center]"...thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." (Revelation 4:11)[/center]

We were created for God's pleasure!  God loves man and want a relationship with him. It was His whole purpose in creating us.

Mankind has been created as the object of God's love. He placed man on earth so man would learn (through the elementals) dominion in righteousness and take the full likeness of GOD

since he was suppose to spend eternity with GOD. God loves us and wants to be the Master (Lord) over us.  If we refuse, then sin and death are the alternatives.

So why didnt he just create us to be good.

He wants a relationship with us. He wants us to be like him with our own freewill and not just some robotic creation. Its his ultimate pleasure that man would choose to walk with him rather than operate in evil's domain.

But What About Hell?Why Hell?

...everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:" Matthew 25:41

Hell was created for the devil and his angels. It was not created for man! It was not His purpose for men to go there. God knew that we would sin so He made provision for us by providin us 100% God 100% man in the person of JESUS paying the penalty for our sins with His blood (source of life).

Someone may ask "But Was it Fair to Create Us?"

If God had not created us, He would have been overcome with evil, for it would have dictated that the righteous would never have an opportunity to love and be loved by the One who is everlasting and full of pleasures forevermore.  If the righteous were to miss out on the Magnificent God, would that be fair?

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"Purpose Driven Life" I think People in the house should read the book. Its really an insight to life .

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The purpose of my existence in this world is to accomplish a mission. No matter wat happens to an individual in this world, it is not by accident there is a purpose for what happens at that particular time.

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Every individual is created to fulfill God's purpose here on earth. Its now left for you to discover what purpose you are here for.

Its important because there's no sense in gaining the riches of this world and eventually miss heaven.

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Those things you listed, are the purpose.

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Why does life has to have a purpose? Now that I am alive, even if it's just by chance, I am going to make the best of it. I am going to pursue what will make me feel happy and fulfilled. I am going to explore what life has to offer, set goals, achieve them, and try my best to enjoy the decades I have left.

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