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The Sin Against The Holy Spirit: What Is It?

God is an all forgiving Father. The Bible says in Isaiah 1: 18 that though our sins be as scarlet or red like crimson, they shall be as white as snow, implying that no matter how terrible our sins are God is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteosness. As to the extent of forgiveness, Other places like Ps 103 vs 12, Mic 7:19, Is 38:17, is 43:25 Ps 51:1,9, Jer 31:34 makes it clear that God not only forgives but forgets our sins and remembers them no more. However in Matt 12vs 31 and 32, Jesus made this statement;

" Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come."

Now how do we harmonize these or better still what exactly is this Sin against the Holy spirit?

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Hello guys. before i became a firm believer in jesus. i think i said something bad about a church or it might of been a thought. we where driving down the road if i remember right when this happened. ive not known fully about the lord or the holy spirit. anyway. i said something bad about a church i called them devil worshipers. i remember the day that peace came to me. i felt so happy and peaceful i swear it was the holy spirit. any way i came to the unpardonable sin in the holy bible and bam i was hit with fear. fear ive never experienced in my live. ive been praying about this alot. i know your not god and cant judge me i was just wondering if you think i blasphemed the holy spirit? please respond .

even jesus said something to my extent but he is god so, he said a synagogue of satan in revelations Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.

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Jesus spoke of the sin of the holy spirit when he though filled with the holy spirit and bearing his fruits was accused of having a demon in him[matt.12.28]. this means that his accusers were indirectly saying that the fruits of the spirit were same as that of demons.

this is what i THINK to be the sin against the spirit- doubting his authenticity and seeing it to be the same as demons or a fake. as the accusers did.

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Well said. The Holy Spirit is the only One who can convict us of sin, righteousness and judgment to come if we don't believe and obey Him nothing else will convict and convert us and such sins remain unforgiven.

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The Holy Spirit pleads with sinners to come to Jesus.God says as "I liveth, I have no pleasure in the death of a sinner but that a sinner should turn and live".Holy Spirit will plead with sinners till they die.Since they (sinners) refused to listen to the Holy spirit,there is no remedy and the result is hell fire.Therefore the sin against The Holy Spirit is to refuse to listen to the plea of the spirit to come to the living God.

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me i have questions bari kade

so why didnt Mary and Joseph name Jesus Immanuel

how does this show that Jesus is the son of man

it says[b] a virgin [/b] shall conceive not Virgin Mary shall conceive so how did u know the prophesy was talking about virgin mary

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i dont think he was talking about temptation rather he make know to refuse evil to me means he wud live and experiense evil(ie by coming to earth) since He never  knew anything evil before.

why do u say the Holy Spirit never incarnated. what if He did but was not recognised the way the jews didnt recognise Christ and are still expecting the Messiah.

dont you ever wonder if the COMFORTER has already come as Christ Promised, and that he was born too just like Christ(cos thats the only way you can be on earth physically) and that that is wat the prophesy was talking about.

they are just questions ohhhhh

i need clarification pls

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dont swear by Gods name or his world,

sin against the holy spirit is dangerous to human life, ma fi emi re sofo

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I've relly learnt a lot from you guys but the question still remains, if sin or rather blasphemy against the Holy spirit is saying He is an unclean spirit or speaking ill of the Holy Spirit, what is the fate of someone like Goodguy who admits having done same before he became born again. Is there no hope for him anymore? I'm thinking that Christ's statement there should not be just taken on the surface, there is a deeper meaning to that statement or what do you think?

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@otuwe,

If you carefully read me, I'm not one who goes out trying to criticize people, whether or not I agree with them. You simply don't come on board and make statements like this:

Now that you've tried to explain your input, I may let the matter rest. But then, there are people who are actually seeking answers who need to understand issues; rather than such off-handed statements.

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it seems u didnt understand wat i said or u were to eager to criticize me dat u forgot to read it properly.

now let me ask u, when u r being judged are u going to be pardoned wen u say its the Devil's fault.

what i was trying to explain is that blaming the devil is not an excuse, instead we should strive to be strong to overcome the temptation not relax somewhere and say its the Devils fault, the battle has been faught already and Lucifer has lost so lets just remain strong cos the Almighty has granted us that Grace which is sufficient for us.

AMEN

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Bari-Kade,

Excellent posts explaining the various sins against the Holy Spirit.

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Bari-Kade,

This is how my sister would be confused. In her mind she would hear terrible things about God but think she said them.

It's hard to explain to people that the devil is not dumb. He knows to say something to you, to make you think, you alone said it.

Jesus made clear that even Peter's rather normal human thought: i.e. I do not want my leader to die.

Was really a thought placed there by the devil.

Thus Jesus rebuked the real culprit. Satan.

Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

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@otuwe,

If you're not willing to hear anything, even where you are greatly mistaken, then perhaps your points are not worth reading. Having a teachable spirit is one of the virtues of someone being led by the Holy Spirit.

If the devil influences people to live, say and do things contrary to the Lord, then by all means the devil should clearly be named as the culprit and thus defeated by the revealed truth of God's Word.

One thing the devil really loves is to hear people trying to parry with him and deflect their minds to something or someone other than himself (and this is what actually empowers him to wreck havoc in the minds of people). He hates truth; and when you tell the truth, his authority to deceive is weakened and defeated.

Cheers.

@Drusilla, thanks for that response.

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Otuwe,

The devil is real. And tempting believers to kill themselves or give up on God because they have "blasphemed" the Holy Spirit, supposedly, is a work of the devil.

I agree though that too many do not like to truly examine themselves and want instead the fault to lie outside of themselves and the devil is a great convenience, for that.

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why arepeople so eager to blame the devil for everything.

the fact we know is that we are stronger than the devil here on on earth cos He doesnt have the cloke we have to operate here on earth so he can never force anybody to do anything thats why He resorts to Temptations

so i dont want to hear anything like its the devils fault here. if u live against the laws (will) of the Almighty then u have sinned against the Holy Spirit whether its the Devil that Made u do it or not

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I have had an aunt and an sister bothered for years by the idea that they had blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

I think it is just the devil, mostly now a days trying to play mind games with Christians.

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girlfriend it seems we are operating on the same wave length.

as im about to give a reply i just see ur own reply and it really goes with wat i want to say.

thumps up girl.

u may want to go to the thread "how christains pray" and make ur contributions too. lets encourage these people to open their eyes.

one love

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what about your own analysis?

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i used to think that blaspemy was speaking in tongues when you've not being empowered by the holy ghost

and im sure its the same with a lot of xtians and that's why most of us don't speak in tongues

however, thanks to God i've learned that speaking in tongues if not done deliberately to mock it is not the same as blasphemy

or wot wld u say about actors.

So id say blasphemy like Jesus said is "saying that Jesus is not the son of God" or Jesus is a Liar

Al;ways speak in tongues, no let d devil make u fear, its ur right!

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thanks bari_kade for putting me right

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the law of balance.

this is so simple and yet so difficult. in life, everything must be balanced. there must be giving as well as receiving, you must breathe in as well as breathe out, you must eat all the classes of food (i.e balanced diet), the list is endless. when you upset these balance, you are goin against the laws of the holy spirit and you must face the consequences. e.g when you eat too much carbohydrate, or too much protein e.t.c you have a side effect. when you dont give, you do not expect to receive.

the law of sowing and reaping

you must sow rice to reap rice, you must sow wheat to reap wheat. likewise you must sow good to reap good and vice versa. so whatever you do, you must reap the consequences times over. again when you do not obey this law, you are going against the will of the holy spirit which is made manifest in these laws.

the law of cycle

here, everything must come back to the originator. so when you do something evil and think you have gotten away with it, my dear you havent just yet.all of mans actions i.e words, thoughts, actions or deeds must return to the originator, the cycle must be complete. so before yo go ahead and do evil, always remember that it will come back to you, probably worse than you metted out.

the law of gravity

again, very simple. whatever goes up must come down. if you are heavy , you sink if you are light, you float. thus if you are heavy with sin, you find yourself descending into the nether regions and if you are light (i.e blameless before god) you find yourself floating into the regions of light.

there are other laws that govern creation, but these are the most popular. that is why i hold the view that you dont need to have read the bible to stay away from blasphemy (cos a lot of people have read the bible and still cannot satisfactorily explain the concept of blasphemy against the holy spirit). if you live your life by obeying the will of God, i.e these laws that govern creation, you will never blasphem against the holy spirit or grieve him

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I think an example of sin against the HOLY SPIRIT [/color]is having SEX out of wedlock ,since we understand the fact that the HOLYSPIRIT lives in us.

A preacher analysed it this way:

How many of you will be making love to their spouses and invite the house help to watch?

So as such,the HOLY SPIRIT [color=Black]lives within us and that's what we mean when we talk about conscience.

So when we do some things against all warnings from HIM,we have sinned against him and we cannot say that it is non-deliberate.

Likewise the things we say.

When we say things we've already considered in our hearts as being blasphemous we also sin against HIM.

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much i think has been said on the sin against the holy spirit,but i think it really bothers down on apostasy.(APOSTASY)willfully denying the lord,his spirit and bieng a part of the christian bla bla bla.i believe you all know what i mean. jesus making mention of not grieving the holy spirit is not refering to sinning against the holy spirit cause the holy spirit has feelings that means he can be grieved.but my point here is that the sin against the holy spirit is when one deliberately denies his faith by renoucing his faith publicly.that's why the scripture said it is hard for one who has tested of the holy spirit and then goes back to his old self by looking back and leaving the christian faith that for such a one to be restored back to the faith it will take the grace of God i.e it will almost be impossible to be restored. this is not talking about backsliding.i hope i made some point here

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I'll just like to quickly add this:

Who is the Holy Spirit?

There are so many answers and understanding that people have to this question; and while most of them are based on human inferences, perhaps it might be more helpful to see what Scripture says about Him.

Citing a common example: many people attribute justice to the Holy Spirit while Jesus is ascribed to love. I'm persuaded that this is a grave mistake. Justice and divine judgement come directly from the Father, who commits all these unto the Son. Remember what Jesus said in John 5? "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son . . And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man" (vss. 22 & 27).

And what about love? The Trinity is involved in this as well, for we read of love of the Father (1 John 4:9); the love of Christ (Rom. 8:35; II Cor. 5:14); and the love of the Spirit (Rom. 15:30). These are not all different kinds or even different expressions of love - they are all one and the same divine love of God which has been shed abroad in our hearts (Rom. 5:5 & 8:39).

So then, because the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are inseparable in love, justice and judgement, I think it's a grave mistake to arrogate just one role or element to just one of them. So, who is the Holy Spirit?

First and foremost, the Holy Spirit is a divine Person. He is not a 'force' as some have erroneously thought. Both His attributes and works demonstrate the fact of His divine Personality as are the Father and the Son.

Second, in context of our subject, He is the reality and very expression of God's holiness. For all that we would ever know or understand about God's holiness are found in the Spirit of God; for which reason in the NT we often read of Him as the 'Holy Spirit'. You know the Holy Spirit is present where you find holiness in reality; and where He is present, there you will find the very presence of God.

Later, I'll take up other issues.

God bless.

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Religious doctrines and rules are like goverment constitution,wise people thought of it as moral standard and guidelines of their time,it is subject to amendment based on the time and the need of the people.It is mainly used to control and manipulatate the adherents of religion so that they keep believing and keep looking forward to the salvation that is their birth right.As far as i am concern,we don't have any religious belief in africa today that is original to us,just like every other thing,that is why we are still yet to grasp the basic fundamental mechanism of life,we live in a fairy world where we expect the angels to come from heaven to teach us how to think and do things.Another great sin in life is IGNORACE of any kind.Those who have eyes let them see,christ said it,yet people have their eyes open but can't see.Christ was a rebel,rebel against his time,a rebel against religious beliefs and most of all a rebel against ignorance.

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Hi @chatykrew,

If you go by what Jesus Christ Himself stated, you'll find that sinning against the Holy Spirit is not the same thing as blaspheming against the Holy Spirit - they are two different things; and that is what bari_kade has repeatedly been calling attention to!

Jesus did not say that anyone who sins against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. He did not state it so. Please read Mark 3:29 again: "But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation."

Believers are capable of grieving the Holy Spirit when they do not yield to His leading (Eph. 4:30); and believers sometimes find themselves falling into several of the sins outlined in Gal. 5:16-21. But are they all the same thing as BLASPHEMING the Holy Ghost?

I think many people often miss the point by confusing this issue - and that is why the restlessness in many hearts. I'm certainly not advocating that we should sin against the Holy Spirit merely because sinning is distinct from blaspheming. I'm certainly not making any excuses for any sin at all. But confusing this issue is getting us nowhere.

Good people, make unu hear the Word: if you're a believer, rest your heart on His precious promise - for Jude 1:24 says that He "is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy"!

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what i meant is that an unbeliever/baby Christian can not commit the sin unto death

an unbeliever can mock the holy Spirit out of ignorance but once he/she accepts Christ he/she is forgiven likewise baby Christian can deny Christ because of persecution/temptation but once they repented they are forgiven.

one of the instances of the word impossible in the bible is in Hebrews 6:4-6

and there is no need of praying for them they are lost forever

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my own little understanding of this topc and questions alike

1. what is really the holy spirit?

the holy spirit is a part of the Almighty, and is the arm of justice, while jesus christ is the arm of love. the activities of the holy spirit are manifested in the immutable laws that govern creation. a transgression against these laws amounts to a sin against the holy spirit which cannot be forgiven because it must be expiated or redeemed or atoned for. hence the words of the bible that sin against God and the son of God can be forgiven, but not blasphemy against the holy ghost (mathew 12:31-32, Mark 3:29)

the work of the holy spirit lies in the incorruptible laws of creation. these laws includes the law of sowing and reaping, the law of balance, the law of cycle, the law of gravity, the law of attraction of homogenious species.

2. what are the types and examples of sin that would make me condemned for life?

from the above, the answer to this question is simple. going against these laws that governs creation is synonymous with blasphemy against the holy spirit, thus you must atone for your sins, the arm of justice will surely catch up with you.

before i go on to explain these laws, it will interest you to know that if in future a person heeds and obeys the laws that governs creation/the laws of the holy spirit instead of opposing them, the Grace of God which rest in these laws will always be with him.

now for the laws that govern creation/laws of the holy spirit, i will go on to take them one at a time starting with the law of balance. when i return (have to go now).

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All this sin concept is just is one of the greatest trick used by white man to blindfold a typical blackman.There is no sin,the only sin you have is your conscience,do things right you feel good,do it wrong,you feel bad,just like what we are suffering in africa today,we are not getting the point,you get what you give.Be god's friend and don't be afraid of him.

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@ Grouppoint. Going back to your question, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. Behold, old things have passed away and all things have become new."

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thanks to that fellow who asked and posted this question.  My own opinion is that,as human begins- we all have sinned and come short of, so all we need to do is continue seeking God's grace and mercy 4 forgiveness concerning all our atrocities,as no one knows what the criteria for judgment day will be.

can some-one help me out pls. i need the break down examples of those sins,what type of sins do we refer to--as in this topic --sinning against the holy spirit looks like e.g is it stealing?,mocking people praying in tongues? etc. thanks God bless.

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@yemo,

Thanks for making the added points. However, there's a little fine-tunning I'd like you to consider in yours:

From the various verses in the Bible delineating the various sins against the Holy Spirit, it is quite possible that even believers can sin against Him - whether or not such believers are baby Christians or otherwise.

The need to carefully distinguish between the various sins cannot be over-emphasized. Following the question raised again by saints_1, here are a few of those sins against the Spirit of God:

Paul's warning in Eph. 4:30 to not grieve the Holy Spirit is for all believers, rather than merely to baby Christians.

When believers yield to the lust flesh and walk contrary to the Holy Spirit, they are sinning against Him (Gal. 5:16-21). Infact, reading the verses inbetween reveals other sins that are serious enough against the Holy Spirit:

adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations,

wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders,

drunkenness, revellings, . . . and such like.

Believers (baby or mature) can also resist the Holy Spirit when they on occasions when they do not yield to His leading (Acts 7:51).

All of these various sins do not compare to that which is called the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Mark 3:29). It is this very sin that the Lord Jesus warned against with the serious appendage that there is no forgiveness in this regard.

I hope by now we would try to not mix them up; for as long as people fail to carefully delineate issues, the confusion will go on endlessly.

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Hmmm,After review,Am so glad that a topic like this has being raused and thanks for the answers so far.

Nevertheless i will lov to ask these questions;

1.What really is the Holy Spirit.

2.What are types or examples of sin that would make me condem for life.(Types)

Thanks and God Bless,Let them keep coming.

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who is the Holy Spirit?

The Holy Spirit is the the third personality of the God Head, He is the representative of Jesus Christ on earth.

when Jesus was leaving He said the Holy Spirit would bring glory to Him and so the work of the Holy Spirit is to reveal more of Christ to us. among other things the Holy Spirit is our friend,

comforter. b4 we do anything we are suppose to check with him.

who is capable of sinning against the Holy Spirit?

an unbeliever who doesn't know Christ talk less of the holy Spirit,

a baby Christian who is still learning the rope?]

or a mature christian who as seen the holy spirit at work and whom the holy spirit has even used to bring souls to

Christ, who is well grounded in the Bible

w[b]hat is the sin unto death [/b]

at one time or another we(Christians) have all sinned against the Holy Spirit.

a pastor who lost a wife to cancer accused God of not been true to His Word and promised not to serve Christ again. but after sometime he repented. though he has sin(the Bible says it is lawful for us to get angry but we shouldnt let the sun sets on our anger) but that is not sin unto death

the sin unto death is to willfully and deliberately deny Christ over a long period of time(consistently) and after repetitive warning from God by whom? by somebody who has tasted of the richness of the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, who has tasted of the Sweetness of God and who has experienced the grace and mercy of God over his/her life.

thus an unbeliever or baby Christian cannot sin against the Holy Spirit because they are yet to know who He is.

so it is not something to be overtly bothered about. we don't have to be obsessed with it.

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Oops!

The answer to your question can be found in the book of Romans 2:14-16. Find time to read through the whole chapter.

The Scripture says that for as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.

I wouldn't know if i've answered your question now.

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Since against the Holy spirit has been misconstrued over the years. The Holy Spirit is the justice of the creator. The Bible says that whatever a man soweth, thou shall he reap.

therefore when u sin, despite ur repentance, you will still reap the fruit of ur labour though the magnitude might be less. This is on one hand.

On another hand, there comes a time when u keep on indulging in sin without remourse and ur concience is subdued, hence it does not seem like sin any more. That is another aspect of it.

cheers

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@Aproko,

God bless you.

To both questions, I would point to Mark 3:22-30, quoted here in relevant verses:

           (22) And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said,

           He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth

           he out devils.

           (23) And he called them unto him, and said unto them in

           parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? (24) And if a

           kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot

           stand.

           (28 ) Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto

           the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall

           blaspheme:

           (29) But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath

           never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

           (30) Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

From this narrative, tow things would come to mind:

     (a) it is arguable whether or not these people had sealed their doom. The reason I say so is because a lot of people argue back and forth on the subject. But my persuasion is this: this very set of scribes, having carefully studied the Word, came to the conclusion that the Spirit by which Jesus wrought miracles was not the Holy Spirit, but an unclean spirit! For me, in the context of Jesus warning, they had committed this grievious sin. (But please not: not all the scribes were guilty of this: just this group which came down from Jerusalem).

    (b) what exactly did they pronounce to have fallen into this very serious sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost? Let's look at them again: they had called the Holy Spirit names such as "Beelzebub" and "the prince of the devils" (vs. 22)! It was this very unfortunate sin that that occasioned the warning the Lord gave in the subsequent verses. That they had fallen so grievously is indicated in vs. 30: "Because they said. . ." - that's it: it was because this was what they did that the specific case of blasphemy sealed their case. How could a "scribe" (who was supposed to know the Word) come away pronouncing the Holy Spirit as an unclean spirit?

But does one really need to know the Bible before they blaspheme against the Holy Ghost? I don't think so. The NT was not even written when Jesus made the statement we read in the Gospels in this case. However, if something about God's Spirit has been demonstrated before someone, and he comes away pronouncing that demonstration as the work of "demons", "an unclean spirit" or even of "the prince of demons", they are actually falling into this grievous sin. I hope this also answers the question of if it is possible to blaspheme? I pray not one of us falls into that sin!

It only would be a warning to all to be careful what they say!

Would Romans 2:12 help here? "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law."

What then? Romans 2:7-10 --

   "To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory

   and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are

   contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness,

   indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of

   man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But

   glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the

   Jew first, and also to the Gentile."

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Yes it is possible that is why we need to be careful with our words.

There are people that have grieved the holyspirit in the bible. I give you some of them later.

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@ bari_kade,

thanks for the simple english, i actually feel much better.

now i have another question. is there anybody that has been found guilty of blasphemy in the bible? and if blasphemy is pronouncing the holy spirit as unclean, is it really possible to blasphem?

@ olowo tee,

you havent answered my question. is heaven only for those that have come across the bible? are you implying that those in remote areas that can barely read are doomed?

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AS LONG AS YOU HAVENT COME TO A RECOGNITION OF WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT IS, YOU WILL JUST END UP DECEIVING YOURSELVES WITH ONE BIBLE QUOTE OR ANOTHER.

READ MY LAST POST AND YOU WUD GET WAT I MEAN

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that's true, i quite agree that not everyone is a christian.

But, your question is as good as asking how do Primary One pupil understand abstract algebra? It's damn too difficult for them. They are far too low to understand the concept. Likewise with the group of people you mention, it will take divine intervention from God to bring them up to limelight. The Bible says that it takes the spiritual to understand the things of the Spirit. They are not children of the Light, because their ways are different from

Jesus died to take away the sins of the whole world e.g the atheist, satanist, gamblers, idolaters etc. Therefore, to such individuals they need to do first thing first, Acknowledge themselves as sinners, Confess their sins and ask God for forgiveness, Then, they become new creatures and start living in the Spirit. Christ has already paid the price for their salvation, it's left for them to accept or not.

By implication, Heaven is only meant for those who have accepted Christ Jesus as their Lord and personal Saviour.  

"Father, I desire that they also whom you gave me may be with me where i am, that they may behold my glory which you have given me; for you loved me before the foundation of the world" John 17:24. NKJ.

"In my father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, i would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." John 14:3. NKJ

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The BIBLE clearly states donot grieve the HOLYGHOST.

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not everybody in this world is a christain you know. there are still traditionalist, atheist, satanist e.t.c so how do people that do not believe in this spirit identify the spirit when it calls? or are you implying that only those that have come across the bible have a fair chance of heaven?

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It is the refusal to yeild to the Spirit's call to repentance, either before death or rapture. Such an act is Unpardonnable and the concerned person will have to face the consequence of eternal damnation in hell.

Also when a once professed Christian backslides and gets into a state of Apostasy. It's a state of 'No return'

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bari_kade,

i did read your post and my opinion has not changed, we have no way of knowing that he wasn't referring to the holy spirit, there is nothing in the context of those verses that point to the blasphemy against jesus or the holy spirit., he was before a blasphemer i still stand by my words that saying that blasphemy was against jesus is a safe assumption. or that he caused people to blasphem, again he didn't say against who, so that still is a safe assumption to me.

maybe i should repeat my question, who is the holy spirit?

and believe me, from all that has been said so far, i still dont understand the concept of blasphemy against the holy spirit, since it is different from a sin against him. please forgive my lack of understanding and kindly put it in simple terms and then bible verses. thanks for the patience.

@monshege,

no religious arguments intended, just curious minds on the forum asking questions.

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Lol, how did you come to that conclusion?

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Let's just say that the Hol spirit is the soft part of God and HE DOESN'T JOKE WITH IT

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Let's just say that the Hol spirit is the soft part of God and HE DOESN'T JOKE WITH IT

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Hi monshege and ganjaih,

I deeply appreciate your balanced insight and good pointers with the call for us to try and rediscover who the Holy Spirit is in Himself. I believe this will help progress this discussion and provide concrete answers to so many other questions some might have on this topic.

God's blessings.

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Hi gracious,

The sins of those thieves on the cross were not blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Indeed, they stole (any wonder why they were called thieves?); they also reviled Jesus on the Cross (Mark 15:32); but nowhere is it recorded that they blasphemed against the Holy Ghost.

Specifically, the Bible states their sin: "Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit" (Mark 3:30). Accounting the Holy Spirit as an unclean spirit constituted their blasphemy against Him.

Not every sin is considered a blasphemy against the Spirit; and I've tried to outline some of the common sins against Him. I think the confusion about this subject would be greatly minimized when we can understand this point.

I'll agree with you, but need to add this: even when a person is alive and grieves the Holy Spirit by refusing to respond to His gracious convictions or leading, such a sin (serious as it is) is not to be misconstrued as blasphemy against Him.

No one is automatically immune to committing the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The warning is strong enough to make us aware of its implications. Here, the apostle Paul's admonition might be quite helpful:

1 Cor. 10:12 - "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."

God bless.

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based on my understanding all sins shall be forgiven. remember the thief at the cross. he was forgiven. "a broken and a contrite heart, God cannot despise". I believe that the pharisees had sinned against the Spirit because they were hardened. They refused to receive Jesus as the messiah. therefore I would take it that every unbeliever has sinned against the HOlyspirit if he dies in doubt and unbelief. If he refuses to accept the finished work of calvary. but as long as a person is alive and open to God for cleansing of sin, I believe he cannot sin against the Holyspirit . but however a believer can grieve the Holyspirit . when we become bornagain the Holyspirit comes and lives in us. we could grieve him through sexual sin, lies etc. but there is always room for forgiveness and restoration.

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