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Was Jesus Sent To The Whole World?

Much of have been said on the personality of jesus christ,while some christains regard him as their lord & personal savior,some regard him as: king of kings,son of God etc,but the most important christains forget is that jesus was only sent to the Israelites which the bible also revealed.Only prophet Muhammad(saw) was sent to the whole world. Muhammad is not the God muslims worship,he's only a man born of a woman like u and i, What then makes jesus christ also born of a woman to be equate with God.Jesus is not sent to Nigerians or any other generations after him except the Israelites.

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doesn't the fact that Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of israel makes him a messenger.

How then you christians call him god

Evil is that which you asserted to him

And this, He will deny on the day of recompense

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Thats a lie, jesus was sent to the lost sheep of israel. Mathew 15:22-28 'but he answered and said,'i am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of israel

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Jesus was sent for all humanity, people from different nationalities and races.

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I hope $Osisi will have the strength to be consistent about when an entity refuses an acclade from a one that is giving it to him, to actually mean that he does not deserve it: Examples, are as below, courtesy of $Osisi:

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Many verses forbid worshiping men, angels, or any created thing.

Acts 10:25,26 - Cornelius fell down to worship Peter. Peter forbade it saying that he himself was just a man. God deserves worship, but men do not. (Cf. Acts 12:20-23; 14:8-18.)

Revelation 22:8,9; 19:10 - John sought to worship the angel, but the angel forbade it because he was a "fellow servant." "Worship God."

Romans 1:25 - People who worship and serve created things, rather than the Creator, have left the truth of God.

To worship any created thing - whether man, angel, heavenly body, or some other object in nature (mountain, ocean, etc.) - constitutes idolatry.

Now here is my own presentation: And he was addressed "Good master, " Jesus immediately rebuked him/ escoriated him/cautioned him/refused the title, by saying "why do you call me good? There is only One who is Good, God in Heaven."

$Osisi, I thank Allah Who made your heart force your fingers to type these verses that my Lord is allowing me to use against you!

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Osisi, dont forget that I buttressed my argument against Jesus ever being any god, by my illustrating that equals dont beg their peers to elevate them! I dont ask my business partner to elevate me for example as a Partner. I am already that. If I do, while I am begging, the entity or entities am begging can accept or reject, they are higher and the decision is entirely theirs and i have no role in it. I finally asked you what was it that jesus could do against God Whom he begged (considering the many verses in the Bible that referred to God alone, and Jesus whom you sent, etc) if his request was unanswered by God, as it was rejected at another time, which brought about his being nailed to the cross?

I am happy that you are providing me the right ammos in dealing with you on this subject.

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Biko, how does the passage you quoted in different versions prove your point?

What has partiality got to do with this argument?

You see why I say Mooslims have a one track mentality.

You should at least present the proper  argument from the website you copied then I'll answer you

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He thought himself equal with God,because he is

John 5:23 - All men should honor the Son "just as" they honor the Father. To fail to give this honor to the Son is to fail to properly honor the Father.

John 17:5 - Jesus prayed to the Father to "glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was" How shall $Osisi reconcile "He thought himself equal with God, because he is" with or to mean "Jesus prayed to the father to 'glorify Me together with Yourself'!

Question: What if God refused to accept his prayer as He did in the "let the cup pass over my head, etc?" What could Jesus do on his on? Considering that he did nothing to God except cried out on the cross? Could just a man/one be equal to God, when he is praying for elevation from his position?

$Osisi, I do not beg my business partner or partners to do what my authority allows me to do. That true partnership. If I beg a "partner" to be elevated, then am not really a "partner." Thats reality.

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Thank you $Osisi. I love my Title of being an UNbeliever in Christianity, Trinity, Deity of a mere human, angels, etc! Thank you, girl. This I truly appreciate. The first time I tell you this. Please nickname me "unbeliever!" At least you are my witness in a special way, now.

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@$Osisi; Read your Bible and open your heart, away from the hatred! lol. Look at the below. If you have the strength to claim that Jesus is the Overall master in the below, then I will bring many verses up from the Bible where Jesus himself that he was not God! Try it for size and lets see. So much to learn in the piece below.

New International Version

New American Standard Bible (©1995)

And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.

International Standard Version (©2008)

Masters, treat your slaves the same way. Do not threaten them, for you know that both of you have the same Master in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

GOD'S WORD® Translation

King James Bible

And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

American King James Version

American Standard Version

Bible in Basic English

Douay-Rheims Bible

And you, masters, do the same things to them, forbearing threatenings, knowing that the Lord both of them and you is in heaven; and there is no respect of persons with him.

Darby Bible Translation

English Revised Version

Webster's Bible Translation

Weymouth New Testament

World English Bible

Young's Literal Translation

Geneva Study Bible

Forbearing threatening. The habit of cruel masters.

Knowing that your Master also is in heaven. That you have a Master who sees you, to whom your slave is just as dear as you are, and who will hold you to account if you wrong him.

Wesley's Note

your Master also-The oldest manuscripts read, "the Master both of them and you": "their Master and yours." This more forcibly brings out the equality of slaves and masters in the sight of God. Seneca [Thyestes, 607], says, "Whatever an inferior dreads from you, this a superior Master threatens yourselves with: every authority here is under a higher above." As you treat your servants, so will He treat you.

neither . respect of persons-He will not, in judging, acquit thee because thou art a master, or condemn him because he is a servant (Ac 10:34; Ro 2:11; Ga 2:6; Col 3:25; 1Pe 1:17). Derived from De 10:17; 2Ch 19:7.

 

Leviticus 25:43 'You shall not rule over him with severity, but are to revere your God.

Deuteronomy 10:17 "For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.

Job 31:13 "If I have despised the claim of my male or female slaves When they filed a complaint against me,

Acts 10:34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality,

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how the unbelievers like Olabowole reacted to his claim.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill Him (Jesus) {For their perceived blasphemy of Jesus calling Himself God}, because He not only had broken the Sabbath {customs, as they understood them}, but said also that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

So olabs,your reaction is in line.That's how I expect you to react.

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Claims Jesus made of himself

John 10:30 I and My Father are one.

John 4:25,26 The woman saith unto Him, I know that Messias (Messiah) cometh, which is called Christ: when He is come, He will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am He.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love Me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of Myself, but He sent Me.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am He (Christ), ye shall die in your sins.

John 8:18 I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.

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He thought himself equal with God,because he is

John 5:23 - All men should honor the Son "just as" they honor the Father. To fail to give this honor to the Son is to fail to properly honor the Father.

John 17:5 - Jesus prayed to the Father to "glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was"

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And they clasped his feet, not being afraid I might add, but then he quipped for a god story, do not be afraid! Is this the action of people who thought they just saw a dead man walking, or the action of a dead man who just came to life, fulfilling his sign like Jonas' "3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale (I know it is not 3 days and 3 nights in the cave, which really not a tomb; I just enjoy teasing her)"?

$Osisi, you proof ed nothing. Please let me finished disecting your story before you respond. Okay woman. Young girl. Thank you. Lol.

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Many verses forbid worshiping men, angels, or any created thing.

Acts 10:25,26 - Cornelius fell down to worship Peter. Peter forbade it saying that he himself was just a man. God deserves worship, but men do not. (Cf. Acts 12:20-23; 14:8-18.)

Revelation 22:8,9; 19:10 - John sought to worship the angel, but the angel forbade it because he was a "fellow servant." "Worship God."

Romans 1:25 - People who worship and serve created things, rather than the Creator, have left the truth of God.

To worship any created thing - whether man, angel, heavenly body, or some other object in nature (mountain, ocean, etc.) - constitutes idolatry.

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I have just proven to you that Jesus received worship.

I don't want to derail by your irrelevant questions to the topic.

There are sincere folks who would read and be converted by the truth I present

Those are my target.

Your personal opinions and useless questions here don't change a thing!

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$Osis is full of holy ghost this morning. The Question from Abuzola was direct enough, before your spindarella trick about it! Abuzola asked you to show where the disciple after Jesus said Jesus said that he should be worshipped as God. The other way is this, did Jesus say that he should be worshipped as God?

If you dont know the answer, you are a big woman (young girl), just say so. Spinning around in the fashion of "spinning the bottle" makes everyone woozy. A story that did not come from "the storyteller" could not be taking as the truth, especially when he could have told the story the way the "liars" said he told it, rather he chose to tell his own story differently!

Just for fun filled morning: What are the four living creatures? Which Angels worshipped him: Gabreil who was sent to strengthen him?

Osisi, you better not turn to pure pagan with idol in heart and idol on the dresser! All these worship remind me of the statement we have here "I am not worthy!" And another for good measure " I worship the ground he walks on". These are the statements of "believers" aka American Christians and even the Jews have adopted it!

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The question is did Jesus receive worship as God?

Yes he did.

4 Living Creatures and 24 Elders

Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!" The four living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped. (Revelation 5:13)

Angels

And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." (Hebrews 1:6)

Wise Men

On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold and of incense and of myrrh. (Matthew 2:11)

His Disciples

Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God." (Matthew 14:33)

Women

So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me."

11 Disciples

Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. (Matthew 28:16)

11 Disciples

While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven. Then they worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. And they stayed continually at the temple, praising God. (Luke 24:51-53)

Pharisees

Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?" "Who is he, sir?" the man asked. "Tell me so that I may believe in him." Jesus said, "You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you." Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him. Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind." (John 9:35)

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Nezan is just throwing dirt all over the places. God is a spirit now for him so he worships Him in spirit. But Nezan conveniently forgot about Jesus! Look here mister, am not a Christian so I paid attention to the Fleshy "Jesus!" He was and still your god, aint he?

Well then, your whole "spiritual" argument falls flat on its face!

And you suggested that Muslim does not have any spiritual worship because the muslim washes his "body" before he prays, and he claims that even the washing removes sins. Now lets analyse these; If a mere washing removes some sins, then the muslim must truly have a great belief and his spiritual strength in the mere washing must be equal at least your belief that jesus blood "washes" away your sins! You have to kill Jesus for yours, while the Muslim needs to get mere clean water.

If the washing, ablution is preparation for a greater event known as Salah, then this event, Salah must at least have a forgiveness level than the ablution. All those who make salah face Kaaba. Those in Nigeria do this my facing the east and not Aba or Onisha. Their hearts (body) and Souls (Spiritual part of the body) are directed and immensed into the Salah to The Lord God Creator Allah Who they cant see and never walked the surface of the earth, never was killed and never was in need of anything! Is this not a great spiritual element, effort? I have not even spoken about Zakat, Sadaqah, Saum (fasting for minimum 29 and maximum 30 days, every year), Hajii and Ummrah! And others and the Big daddy of them all is the Actual declaration whereby all possible things to adore are killed of in the soul, from the heart and by the mouth accepting Allah alone and Muhammad as the Last messenger/Prophet (AS)!

Now tell me how the Christians have spirituality and the Muslims do not have a purer and better spirituality? How do you even worship in spirit as a christian? Tell us, what do you say and who is it that you are connect to in your spirituality? Which of the three gods? Father, Jesus or ghost? Who exatly? We know that of the Muslims. They Use Arabic Quran as the source of the ever flowing fountain/word! We know that the are focused on Allah, in the way that Muhammad (AS) taught.

What do you use: English Bible, Yoruba Bible, Hebrew Bible, Aramaic Bible, Syric Bible? What version; KJV, NIV, ASV, Catholic Douwy? What exactly?

Interestly, I have been copying the Arguments on Nairaland about the authenticity or Corruptibiity of NIV Version of the Bible. Thanks JeSoul. Thanks to all the contributors. I am keeping them for future refernces and shall use it when appropriate!

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They always like to desist, God as 3. God sent another God. Hilarious

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Nezan, ngbo ogbeni, whats spiritual in making 3 gods becoming 1 God? At best it is a wrong concept. At worst, it is magic and thats worse. But both ideas are lies.

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You should simply answer my questions.

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read John 1:1, Jesus Himself is that word (logos), the message is the gospel (good news of the coming of God's kingdom and of the promise of the Holy Spirit and also two laws which are love and faith)

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Where was the message from?

Who gave it to Jesus?

What was the message?

Thanks

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Show me where the disciples said 'worship jesus or jesus was God before he died'

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He gave His message to the lost sheep and chose 11 of them to pass the message to the gentiles.

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A liar will always claim to be truthfull, says the elders

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I know you are too young to grasp a matured argument.

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Why don't you just post facts, quote the context instead of writing a prankish verse.

Jesus was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. You can do better by quoting a verse where jesus said 'i am sent to the whole of mankind and to the world'. Understood ?

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@OP,

Jesus' ministry before his death, resurrection and ascension was primarily to the Jews, though far from being restricted to them. After these events he sent out his disciples, whom he had thoroughly prepared, into all the world with his message of good news of salvation by grace (Mt 28:18-20, etc). That is why Jesus knows, when he hears that the Greeks are pressing to see Him (Jn 12:20-22), that his hour of death is imminent (12:23-24, 27). For Jesus must suffer, die and be glorified before his universal message of salvation (12:32) can be carried to the Gentile world.

Even in the koran, the universal ministry of Jesus was attested to:

Jesus is a sign to all peoples - 19:21 (alnas, cf 7:158); 21:91 (al`lemeen, cf 21:107). Cf 2:124; 43:46-47.

Jesus is held up as an example for the Arabs - 43:57.

The Bible is for all mankind - 3:3-4, 187; 6:89-91.

The Qur'an refers to Christians many times (e.g., 2:62,113; 5:85; 57:27). Probably few, if any, of these were from the tribes of Israel. Such being the case, are we then forced to conclude that the Qur'an is in error for calling non-Jews Christian? Or is it the traditional Islamic interpretation of the extent of Jesus' ministry that needs correcting?

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