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What Do Arab Christians Call God?

In all languages we have different ways we address and call our creator

YORUBA CALL HIM OLORUN, ELEDUMARE, ETC

IBBIRA CALL HIM, OHOMORIHI, IHINEBA ETC

IGALLA CALL HIM OJO

IBO CALL HIM, CHINEKE

HAUSA CALL HIM Allah

CALABAR CALL HIM ABASI

and other languages have different names for the mosrt high

WHAT DO THE ARAB CHRISTIAN CALL GOD

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Muslims can't ever make any sense in all of ther claims. They don't just understand YHWH as much as they don't understand their god called Allah... Muslim will object to limiting God but all they do is exactly what they deny! I dnt need to rebut much of the pouting of this muslim folks! I realise this thread is atleast worn out now!

Just a few questions though

John 16:7-10

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

John 15:26

26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.

John 14:16-17

16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

John 14:26

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 16:12-15

"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

So from the foregoing the question arises from the islamic/muslim view of muhammed as the comforter

#1: Is Muhammed sent by Jesus?

#2: did Muhammed Glorify Jesus? In what way?

#3: did Muhammed reminded the Disciples wat Jesus said?

#4 did Muhammed lived inside the Disciple? And abides forever?

#5 so all if muhammed is the comforter he was simply saying and declaring what belongs to Jesus?

Let me rest my case here! And I hope I won't be getting any response that the verse are corrupted! Then u will tell us why u applied those corrupt texts to identigy muhammed and perhaps tell us which texts are corrupted and which is not! Ofcos with evidences! Thanks!

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There are many gods while there is only One true and living God who is the God of Israel YHWH.

Please go to www.reluctant-messenger.com and read The Forgotton Books of Adam and Eve; First and Second and Enoch's Book of Secrets 1 &2, which can be found under the Misc. link on the left side if the page. Gain a better understanding just how decietful and conieving satan really is.

Learn how the white man stole our religion and mingled their Christian religion with our teachings; Jesus is the Antichrist and is not the Son of God nor is he an Israelite.

You can learn better of their deception by first understanding how all of this confusion came into play. Please go to:

- The History of Slavery In America.

You will read in the Forgotton Books of Adam and Eve that God is an Israelite and the He has not come down in the flesh (as the so called Christians) would have one to believe in a man the call Jesus Christ; because the 8th day (Apocalypse) not yet come nor has the promise the God if Israel made to Adam been fulfilled.

When you read Enoch's Book of Secrets 1 & 2, you will see how the Christians Holy Bible has reversed many things opposite to what is witnessed by Enoch and what God Himself has said. No wonder why death and destruction is all around us and there is so much confusion. The God of Israels children can understand their God and my God whom is the God if Israel is very much alive. He is not an Iron Age God, nor has He forsaken His people. Jesus Christ is not God's people, because if he was then he'd know that the God if Israel woukd NEVER foresake His chis r n people.

Satan is all of our master because Adam sinned in the Garden if Eden and obeyed satan, therefore satan becane his master and if all life came from Adam then our master is satan. ..however because God lived Adam he protected him from satan and GAVE us a choice to serve Him (God of Israel) and have protection from satan or serve satan and die. You can not serve two masters, you either love one and hate the other but you can't serve both.

Christians says "It's not robbery to be equal to God" but if this is true, then why was satan kicked out of heaven? And if it not been robbery to be equal with God, then why did the God of Israel kick Adam out of the Garden if Eden...could it be becsuse satan promised Adam the godhead? Then comes along this Jesus (a white man a leper) that the Christian world worships as God and an Israelite is a figment of whiteman's deceitful imagination.

There is no God in all the land but in Israel...so here we are prisoners if the land (America), enslaved and robbed of our heritage and basic human rights as we where and still are considered nonhumans in the eyes of the whiteman. All nations are being encouraged to forsake their God YHWh for Christianity...if you want freedom of religion come to America...the problem is you are serving satan willfully you just didn't know it up til now.

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You guys are very funny cos no matter how long we intelligenly or foolishly argue, it doesn't change the FACT that there is ONLY ONE TRUE God in Heaven who created the Heavens, the Earth and Everything else we can think of and that God is certainly NOT an "Author of Confussion" so if there is a single line of conflict btw the Bible and the Quaran then the same God can't possibly be the author of both books.

So let us hold firm to our Conviction and not blind in our Action nor gullible in our Decision but let us ask Questions with the Intension to walk in the right Direction but remember, it is only God that knows who TRUELY SERVES HIM. As for me and my household, We shall continue to serve the Lord. God bless you All!

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Useless to read. meant for Pagans only.

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http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/symbols3_index.htm

Illuminati / Freemasonry / Satanic Symbolism

Fez

One of the most widely recognized symbols in all of Shrinedom is the red fez. The Shrine fez, adopted by the Shrine's founders in 1872.

As a Mason goes through the 32 degrees of the Scottish rite, he ends up giving worship to every Egyptian pagan god, the gods of Persia, gods of India, Greek gods, Babylonian gods, and others. As you come to the 17th degree, the Masons claim that they will give you the password that will give him entrance at the judgment day to the Masonic deity, the great architect of the universe. It is very interesting that this secret password is "Abaddon".

Revelation chapter 9;11 it says, "The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss [the bottomless pit], and smoke came out of the Abyss like that of a great furnace, " (It goes on to describe those in the abyss, then continues) They had a king over them, the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, " The 'angel' of the Abyss (Hell) is really the chief demon whose name is Abaddon. Masons claim then, that the deity they worship is Abaddon!

In order for a person to become a Shriner, he must not only go through all the degrees of Masonry, make all those blood-curdling oaths, worship gods who are not gods except they are of Satan, but he must make a blood both of allegiance to a.l.lah as his god and mohammmed as his prophet. The Shriner is then given a red fez with an i's.lamic sword and crescent jeweled on the front of it. This originates from 7th century Arabia when the Moslems, under the leadership of mohammmed, slaughtered all Christians who would not bow down to a.l.lah. a.l.lah, by the way, was not another (generic) name given to God by mohammmed; a.l.lah is the tribal deity --the moon god-- of mohammmed; it was the name of the god in the tribe that mohammmed was born into. That is why every mosque today has a crescent moon on the top of its spire.

Now when mohammmed's army of men, out to slaughter all the 'infidels', came to the city of Fez, in Morocco, they found a community of Christians. After killing all the Christians there with their i's.lamic-style swords, they took their hats (called a fez) and dipped them in the blood of the Christians, and wore the fezzes throughout the land glorying in their victory over Christianity. Today Shriner's put on red fezzes (representing the hats dipped in the blood of Christians) with the i's.lamic sword and crescent showing their allegiance to a.l.lah and mohammmed (and the defeat of Christianity). Men in Obscene Red Fezzes!

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@pilgrim.1 , I don't really know why and where all this will take you to. If your are a christian -DOES BIBLE ENCOURAGE WHAT YOUR DOING, FINDINGS AND POSTING. WHERE WILL IT TAKE YOU TO.

WHY NOT DO THE RIGHT THING. Must you prove others wrong and the other figers pointing on you.

HOLY BIBLE SAID PREACH THE WORD OF GOD. Do not fight for JESUS. He has done a great thing for you. Emulate CHRISt.  All your pictures are nonsence. YOU PROVE NOTHING BUT DISOBIDENCE TO THE WORD OF GOD.

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Well, the Arabic word for God is Ilah not Allah. Though, many Arabs refer to God as Allah, I believe it does not really matter. God knows.

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The Prophet Muhammed tried at first to popularize the name Rahman instead of Allah. Rahman was the word used in the southern part of Arabia for God. However the name Allah prevailed.

The Hebrews also had several names for God including El Shaddai and El Eyon. As for the Holy Ghost, it is female noun in Hebrew.

Muhammed declared he was not trying to make a new religion but to restore the original purified religion of Abraham.

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Pilgrim.1 what a smart challenge!! lol

Your Images does not look real to me! Can you prove to me and to the blogers of nairaland that this image you posted was not from an anti-islamic site? lol

The internet world has always been a place of scam! there are alot of sites online that blackmails islam (Muslims to be precise). I will start an investigation on the site you have provided and get back to you.

As for the relics stuff, they must be out of their minds!! Muhammed's shirt (we are talking of a thousand year and more! of course you know what cloths are made of) in CAIRO, EGYPT!!! Not SAUDI ARABIA!!! what in GOD's Name are YOU THNIKING! You must be Kiding me!!! lol you know this is not true!!! Cotton decays! To prove to you that this is the Second-Greatest lie that have ever come to existence. No matter what, the shirt (in perticular) from the date the prophet died to about 200 years later, there have not been any presavative of whatsoever. So there is not point trying to make a false claim the "truth"!!! ofcourse the level of technology "now" is as high as you may think of, but not then lol. (This is a fast money making archeological museum!)

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@soladnet,

The Spirit of Truth abides only with those who are willing to receive and not deny His Truth.

One does not need a Harvard degree to see the simple statements identifying the Comforter to be none other than the Holy Spirit - John 14:16 & 26. I have pointed it out before, and I will yet point it out again. It is amazing how you dear Muslims could blind yourselves to Unclad truth - and if English is not a difficult language for you, please take another look at those verses again and simply answer this question as posed earlier:

(c) Does John 14:16 & 26 identify "the Comforter" to be "the Holy Spirit", or it does not?

Now, as regards the appellation "the Spirit of Truth", we notice yet again that an akin or similar term is used in the Qur'an by various translators in the English language:

Sura 26 vs 193 - [Yusuf Ali]

"With it came down the spirit of Faith and Truth"

Another question, soladnet:

(d) does that verse in the Qur'an refer to Muhammad?

(e1) Is Muhammad ever referred to as "THE SPIRIT of TRUTH" in the Qur'an or the Hadith?

(e2) Did Allah anywhere refer to Muhammad in the Qur'an as "The SPIRIT of Truth"?

Those questions are just tow sides of the same - and if you have an answer to them without dramatizing any further fallacy, please post the verses from the Qur'an or Hadith where Allah ever referred to Muhammad as your claim above.

Cheers.

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@soladnet,

If only you had carefully followed the discussion, you would have no problem with the way I framed my question. I had carefully discussed this and demonstrated that the verses under review between chapters 14 and 16 of John's Gospel lead to the incontrovertible conclusion that the Comforter is indeed the Holy Spirit (John 14:16 & 26).

John 14 vs. 16 & 26

(16)  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter,

that he may abide with you for ever . . .

(26) But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will

send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to

your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Following that, I also demonstrated that the phrase "the Holy Spirit" is also used in both the Qur'an and the Hadith; see below:

~ Qur'an

Sura 2 vs 87 (also vs. 253)

"We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs)

and strengthened him with the holy spirit."

Sura 16 vs 102

"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from

thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe,

and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims."

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~ Hadith

Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 1, Bk. 8, Num. 444:

"O Allah! Help him with the Holy Spirit."

Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Bk. 54, Num. 434:

"O Allah! Support him (i.e. Hassan) with the Holy Spirit?"

Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 8, Bk. 73, Num. 173:

"O Allah ! Support him (Hassan) with the Holy Spirit (Gabriel).'?"

However, we can see that the references in both the Qur'an and the Hadith not in reference to the Spirit of God, but rather interpreted for the angel Gabriel (Jibril).

When babs787 insisted that John 14:16 could not be referring to the Holy Spirit but rather to none other than to Muhammad, I initially posed a single question to him; and then later added two more:

(a) WHERE did Allah ever refer to Muhammad as "THE HOLYSPIRIT"?

(b) Has Muhammad been in existence since the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth?

(c) Does John 14:16 & 26 identify "the Comforter" to be "the Holy Spirit", or it does not?

The Muslim apologists who have fabricated the dubious fallacy to interprete "Muhammad" into John 14:16 & 26 seriously need to address those queries, rather than trying to entertain us with re-arranged excuses that are vacant of thought and honest regard for integrity.

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@Davidylan: Stop all these puffed up arrogance of too know; For starter, arent all human beings, indeed brothers and sisters to one another, from Adam? Thats your answer and stop to think for a moment. Ako e poju!

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Its obvious that davidlan argues without enough knowledge of what he is saying (argues blindly). If you realy know about the two religion then you would known that there are difference beween the Qur'an and the Hadith. There is no difference of what so ever b/w what muhammed says and the Hadith. In other words, what ever Muhammed says, His tradition, the sayings of his caliphs (succesors) are what is refered to as hadith.

I recomend that you read the Qur'an and i asure u, u will c the true history of Abraham, u will get, in full details, stories that are half told in the Bible. Not only that, check (read) the Hadith, and you will realise that it contains alot of history of the prophets. All these was said by an UNLETERED MAN (A stack Ilitrate, he neither knows how to read nor write)

So, posting your view to nairaland without proof does not make sense, i think you are geting short of ideas (I think, )

Lol, it seems u dont know what u r saying,

Abraham was the next prophet after Noha (Nuhu). If you read your Bible Very well (No need of reading other scriptures), it will tell you that the people during Nuha's time were distroyed only those that stayed with Him in the Boat. Meanwhile, those that stayed with him did not believed in what he preached, they enter the boat just for entering sake, when they get back to the land, they started all over again with their idol worshiping. years later after the death of Nuha, then comes Abraham (as a prophet). Now, God did not call Abraham only for friendship, but also to preach the truth. To identify the true GOD who is one and has no partner, and so on.

As pa the ritual stuff, lol

Dont tell me you have not read that in the bible, lol

have you forgotten the promise Abraham made to GOD?

Have you forgotten how Ismaeel was replace with a RAM?

ofcourse the bible would not tell you more about the ismaeel cause it has been altered to concieve the truth!!!

If you u want to know about Isaac then i will tell you.

I saac was a Jew, he is the forefather of Jesus, but he is not the forefather of Moses (let that stick in to your head too) while Ismaeel is the founder of the Arab world (this too, lol). If you go through the genealogy of Moses and Jesus, that where you will know that genealogically, they do not relate at all!!! that where Muhammed comes IN

According to my research all the prophets are genealogically related. that of issac stops on JESUS while that of Ismaeel Stops on MUHAMMED!!! (did you religion tell you that? lol)

I strongly recomend that you go for studies about you religion. cos you only know what is being preached in the church which only teach you how to sing and dance to songs. lol

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Thanks for your post olabowale, i think you are more reseanable to the issue onground

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@Pligrim.1: Good morning. I wish you a successful week ahead and really to everyone on Nairaland!

As per your response to Solanet dated November 01, I see in John 16: 13, that the comforter which is the spirit of truth will come after Jesus leaves. This spirit of truth/comforter, will testify of Jesus (meaning whatever that spirit will say of Jesus will be the whole truth and nothing but the truth, right?). The spirit of truth/comforter, will guide you into all truth (I guess it is not meant for that generation that Jesus was talking to alone, would know this truthful guidance. It must have to be prevailing and unchanging, in its purity and content, till the end of time, covering all gereations).

This spirit of truth/comforter is so because he does not speak of himself (I am assuming he receives everything that he says from superior authority, in this case God; is there any higher power? Therefore, he will not make up stories/stuffs and pass it on as authentic. He will give credit to the source of the materials he will pass on)

This spirit of truth/comforter will speak only what he hears (Nothing els, nothhing of his own is permitted, nothing!) The spirit of truth/comforter shall speak ( He is audible, not a silenced speech. Audibility to mankind, not ghostly. Unless you have heard voices from being or beings which is not body infused with soul. Humanbeing is body and soul)

This spirit of truth/comforter will show you things to come ( Either by speech or actions, he will tell you future occurences and events. There will nothing that he says that will not happen before the end of this world as mankind knows it)

From the above on that verse of John 16;13, please first correct my assumption. If am at least not defining it to fit my purpose, please say so and then move on to define and pinpoint this man (because the masculine gender is used to describe it). We already know that Paul cannot be that comforter and none of the Bible writers can be this also. What have you gotten from this spirit of truth/comforter that have been transferred to this generation, exactly, from the generation that witnessed the fulfillment of John 16:13?

Lets hear it and give us the source. No copy of that source should be differen from another copy. they must be exactly alike in sound/ letter and sentence structure, etc. The whole christian community must agree with it.

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Babs is a very good example of reversion

A big Amin for your prayer

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We've been through this merry-go-round before. Claiming that Abraham built the kaaba is akin to saying that the kaaba is more than 4000yrs old. We know that is not true.

- there are NO quranic or hadith records of this bogus claim besides the unreliable words of mohammed. No where does either Allah, abraham or ishmeal authenticate this claim.

Biblical sources on the other hand show that abraham parted company with hagar and ishmael when ishmael was but a little boy. It is doubtful that a 12 yr old would have been strong enough to go building a kaaba with his father in the desert. Abraham's entire journey of life from his call by God is recorded in the bible, no where are we regaled by tales of his building a kaaba.

- Mohammed claims the kaaba was built 40 yrs before the al Aksa mosque in Jerusalem. The al aqsa mosque could not have been built BEFORE 70AD since the temple of Jerusalem was not destroyed until then. Based on this, the kaaba would have been built at about 30AD at the earliest!

Now comes the most ridiculous of all . . . was Abraham alive in the yr 30 AD?

The Jews had the Temple of Solomon, pilgrims travelled from far and wide to Jerusalem every yr to worship at this temple. It is imcomprehensible that they would have needed the kaaba at all. Infact no record is made of the jews ever heading to a site of worship in the arabian desert.

The christians have the Holy Spirit, they dont need the kaaba either.

They left 3 behind . . . one each for Allah and his 2 daughters. Go back and read your history books again.

The erroneous claim that the religion of Abraham is islam is not just fraudulent but frankly inpossible. Besides the words of mohammed, what is the proof of this?

Where are the words of abraham in the quran? Where is his history in the hadith?

You must be feeling very sleepy, every point of yours simply sinks lower into the abyss of grandiose delusions.

God called Abraham into a FRIENDSHIP with Him and not to set up a religion. I read through the bible (since of course neither the quran nor the hadith contains ANYTHING on Abraham that i may compare with) and i see no set of rules or rituals that Abraham was compelled to perform.

Isaac inherited his father's faith and covenant with God . . . care to tell us what Isaac's religion was since we see nothing about Ishmael?

Keep dreaming. Wake up before it is too late.

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1. The Ka'aba was built by Prophet Abraham with his Son Ishmael.

2. The Idolaters later take over the Ka'aba thus Christians and Jews cannot take it from them

3. Prophet Muhammad arrives, Islam took over the Ka'aba and removed all the 360 Idols in it.

4. The Ka'aba once again becomes a sacred place for all that believe in the religion of Abraham (Islam)

5. Islam perfected the religion of Abraham and made it utmostly perfect, do not look at the People in it, please look at the religion itself.

6. Islam is the last and final religion which will live with us forever, we will be with it forever, Qur'an will stay for ever, Islam is here to stay,

Shame on you hatredsss of Islam, I wish God will direct you to the right way as He does to many others that are more violent and hate Islam thousand times as you do,

It is not a fault if Muslim convert to Christianity but the ratio is clear it is 1:100, 100 Christians converted to Islam before 1 Muslim convert to Christianity,

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did you read the history of the 360 idols in the kaaba before coming up with such a bogus lie?

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abeg hang yourself,  d world is too small for you,

this your hate against Islam and Muslims will not reduce anything from us, and will not add anything to you,

we have Jeff Tiger (Now Muhammad Salim) after spending 40 years biasing Islam, and writing against it, finally he converted to Islam now,

I hope you will also do convert one day,  but we don't want you to come and start biasing christians or jews please,  (Personal Invitation for you),  Do you have a Church? I don't think you have one, but a friend I know with a church have converted to Islam and converted almost 80% of his church members,,, they were asking of membership fee to Islam, ah its totally free there is no form to fill, nothing to pay, and they converted without getting a penny, because they saw d truth, and they follow it,  Christians sorry woooo,  I do not mean to say anything against Christians, I have lots of christian friends and we are living happily together,  and understanding each other, though always commenting on people with davidLIER's attitude,

oh sorry, a friend of mine living in abuja, just converted to Islam,  what can you say,

RE: What do Arab Christians Call God?

Of course they call God "Allah". "Allah" is a unique name seeing that it has not gender classification, that is, there is no female name for Allah or plural name for Allah. So it is referred to only the One Creator of everything that exists. Arab Christians do call Allah because that is the direct translation for "God" note the capital "G" not gods or goddess but God,  Allah cannot be used on idols, it refers to a supreme being,  while idols are of course created by Humans just like this computers are created,

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your lame attempt at an "analysis" is simply an attempt to islamically interprete the bible. How can you understand the bible when you dont even understand the quran?

Jesus Christ is God. . . Read Jesus Christ's reply to Phillip in the book of Jonh.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God . . . unfortunately you are struggling so hard to use human reasoning to explain this. The appelation "Son of God" does not imply that Jesus Christ was begotten of a natural father and mother thru sex! Likewise we are also called Sons of God, did God sleep with our mothers?

lol Another attempt to use human reasoning to define what you clearly dont understand. Again for a better understanding of who the Father is pls read Jesus Christ reply to Phillip - If you have seen Me you have also seen the Father!

- For I am in the Father and the Father in Me. those who have the Holy Spirit to guide them will understand this. For those trying to use quranic lenses to read this, it will forever remain a stumbling block to you.

Jesus Christ came NOT with a message (that is mohammed's lie) but with a clear purpose - TO LAY DOWN HIS LIFE FOR OUR SINS! For He came NOT to bring another law BUT to fulfill the law.

@ Soladnet, you waste precious time trying to recycle "contradictions" in the bible that have been explained more than 1000 times now. Pls concentrate on answering Pilgrim.1's cogent question. All of you have been avoiding it since.

WHERE did Allah ever refer to Muhammad as "THE SPIRIT"?!?

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wow wow wow. what an interesting thread. Arguments from different sides of the pond. Very insightful. My only addition is that some people will never change. all you have to do is just read their previous threads and you sure will get my gist.

Attacking, justifying, forcefully changing people's mindset/opinions about religion is sure not the way. Everyone is their own individual and have a right to believe/worship whomsoever they find comfort/peace with or through.

Ignorance should now be a thing of the past.

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soladnet

thanks for the explanation.Any reasonable person would understand.

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They call him ILAH. That is the arabic word for god

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@davidylan: Boy!, you are tough. Your heart man. thats a very hard heart! Nothing good comes out of your ink.

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I told you guys that the Original Arabic word for God is not Allah, but Ilah. I said that the word Allah is a contraction of two words, Al+Ilah= Allah, which in English language means The god.

Now, what is the implication of this analysis?, the implication is very momentous, reason being that the Arabians were known for Idol worship, which was very evident even before prophet Muhammad was born, Arabian then was full of Idol which with different tribe worship it's choice of god, due to the fact that there were 360 Idols in the Kaaba shrine, which later became one of the Muslim' most holiest place of homage today.

Therefore, it became pertinent for every tribe to chose it own god to worship and reference. But when Muhammad was born, he received a revelation from Allah to eradicate all the other Idol except Allah and that Allah is the only one that is to be worshiped, that was what gave birth to the statement of confession, which is called Shahada in Arabic language that; "There is no god except Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger" .

Now, why all these analysis?. the reason for these is to show that Allah which the Muslims claimed to worship was part of the 360 Idols in the Kaaba shrine, how can this be proven?, it was so, due to the fact that Muhammad has to Identify of differentiate Allah from other Idols, and the only way he could do that is to use a word or statement which will vividly isolate Allah from the rest of the idols.

To this end, he used an emphatic word in reference to Allah, he used the Arabic word Al, which means The, so for the Arabians not to confuse Allah for the rest of the idols, in reference to Allah Muhammad would use the word The god which is equal to[i] Al+Ilah = Allah [/i]in Arabic.

Hope you guys get this, I will continue some other time, till then stay bless.

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lol the cliched response from the clueless muslim. They are always singing the same tired old tune - "go and read, if you want to know learn, show love" . . . bla bla bla. The way muslims show love is to declare fatwas, declare days of rage, threaten us to convert on the pain of death, blow themselves up in city buses? What a very unique of showing "love and peace".

All these hiding under "go and read" is all a ruse . . . a sign that those making so much noise themselves have no deep understanding of that which they purport to follow. They are not even confident of the god they decieve themselves that they worship. . . question him and they start hyperventilating and accusing you of "judging" and "not showing love".

Showing love is not synonymous with accepting the alleged writings of an idol!

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@ davidylan,

Dear Child, don't fret

A book has been recommended to you; go read it.

If u want to KNOW then LEARN.

You don't have to UNDERSTAND people in order to appreciate them fully.

Most of all show LOVE

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lola4ever, I completely agree with everything you say. You know some people would just judge another person's religion without knowing anything about it. I would like to discuss more with you on this if I can get your email. Mine is oaziz44@hotmail.com

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We were all created by the same God - Yes, His name is certainly not Allah.

We are all descendants of Adam - Yes, but some of us have become sons of the new Adam that ye know not of.

Muslims worship a god, same as the hindus, shango worshippers e.t.c. sorry if it sounds extreme but we cant continue sweeping facts under the carpet to avoid offending you. The God of the bible has nothing to do with the demon in the quran.

We dont forget at all, we only like to remind you to STOP reading only the part of history that suits your false idea of islam. The crusades were clearly aimed at taking back Europe from the bands of robbers and brigands called muslims who 400 yrs earlier had laid siege to it and burned it down with the sword.

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some people are so self rightous, forgetting that beleif means agreement to follow something right or wrong. as a xtian for example suppose you died and you now findout all your beleive on earth is wrong as you've not been serving God, no be wetin some people tell you, you beleive afterall, same goes for people of other religion, what happens then, the condemer becomes the condemned. many xtians are fanaticsbut because of the media trend islam is only associated with it, christians should not forget the crusaders who killed and maimed in the name of christianity/ God.[b]WHO IS RIGHT .WHO IS WRONG?until judgement day[

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i think some people's contribution to this topic is to the extreme eg david. we are all created by the same God and all descendants of adam. Muslims worship God, the word Allah is not god, it is very derogatory.

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Note Allah is The god of the Moon. Don't be deceived, Wonder why the muslims are so freaked about the moon in almost everything they do.

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That guy is right. Allah means The god, Issa also isn't Jesus, it's esau. Arabic name for Jesus is Yesuwa. The Qur'an is a book written by illitrates about a Man who wanted to impose his sexual, terrorist behaviour on planet earth. I wonder why Women believe in a Book that degrades them. Anyway i got thousands of errors and contradictions in the Qur'an, including the dumb things it said about the earth, thank God for the Bible and science.

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That guy is right. Allah means The god, Issa also isn't Jesus, it's esau. Arabic name for Jesus is Yesuwa. The Qur'an is a book written by illitrates about a Man who wanted to impose his sexual, terrorist behaviour on planet earth. I wonder why Women believe in a Book that degrades them. Anyway i got thousands of errors and contradictions in the Qur'an, including the dumb things it said about the earth, thank God for the Bible and science.

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[url=http://http://nairaland.comNa Allah now.]http://nairaland.comNa Allah now.[/url]

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Debosky, the title of this thread is not: How do Arab christians toast chics.

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yarinya da kyau, my hausa is only keremi keremi, yaya zaman naija?

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@ sokislam

and to ur interpretation Al -Illah means the god? so because it is Al- Illa it should be refered to as god with the lil 'g'  

listen do u know that in islam there is no single word that dignifies him no single word is good enough

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@ debonsky

dint u just feel a big slap on ur Face, u re so ignorant and unintelligent My goodness na wa ooooo a two year old knows that Hausa call God Allah and to inform u cos i see that u lack it Mulims dont have  a god we serve God and also Allah means God regarless the religion

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I baffles me when I discover that Computer literate can still be ignorant in this age of information, especially as concern the thing that are religious.

Who told you guys that Allah is the Arabic name for God?, it's a big lie that had penetrated the world for decades, which lots of individuals had swallowed even without checking its reliability.

To start with, Allah is the contraction or the Amalgamation of two words namely: Al-Ilah, well, it's wasn't my intention to load you guys with Arabic language, but I think a little knowledge of this will clarify the issue at hand, the Arabic word for God in Arabic language is ILAH, so someone may ask, how do we come about the word Allah?.

Like I said initially that Allah is the contraction of two words, Al-Ilah, Al denotes the Article The in Arabic language, for example: Al-Qur'an [/i]means [i]The Qur'an or Al-Kerim [/i]means [i]The Blessed or Al-Fathia means The Fathia, with these few examples, you guys should have the understanding that Allah means The god.

Now, let us put this words together and see the results of thing, Al+Ilah=Allah, which means The god. I will give you more Analysis on this subject later. Till then, you guys should stay bless.

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I still maintain the simple but profound truth that the Muslim deity and the Christian God are 2 separate, distinct beings. never mind what the arab Christians call God. Actually, recent research has shown that the actual name for God in arabic is NOT Allah but "Lah", that's a general word.

one thing u shd all recall is that Mohd in his propagation of Islam by Jihad first of all sought to wipe out all contrary views as to his belief in Allah, and not even the Muslim scholars will deny that there once existed several versions of the quran until one of Mohamed's descendants and successors destroyed all others and upheld only one.

the differences btw the 2 are so vast that there is really very little meeting point. The Bible came b4 the quran, and inseveral places in the latter, Moh'd actually pointed his followers to Jesus as an example they are to follow.

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Arab Christians do indeed call God Allah --- among other names. I used to attend church with them when I lived in Egypt.

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God cannot die? Since when did we, mere mortals, begin to decide what God can and cannot do?

I'd probably walk out of the "church".

@ lola4ever, there is nothing like "respect for others religion". Muslims invented that to prevent others from criticising the fraud that is the quran.

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@ davidylan,

God ( by whatever name you call him) CANNOT DIE. If yours came to eartyh and then tasted death (which he created by the way) then you are correct that can not be the same Creator of heaven, earth and all there is that Arabs (its just a language bro!) call Allah.

And the capital G thing, as you can see grammar even affects the God spelling, so its just that, language.

And i understand your firm stand on your faith, its good. i mean if your pastor came upon sunday with a salamu alaykun greeting in church wouldnt you think he was possesed?

live your faith bro, God (Allah, Chi, Olorun, Jehova) etc) knows whom best serve him.

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@davidylan

i aint insulting you, but why do you keep spelling God when u talk of muslims with god, thats wat i meant by u classifying Allah as a muslim god and not God, noticed when u were talkin of christians u used God. Whatever your beliefs, muslims do not worship a god, u make it sound like they worship an idol or smething, anyways i think ive said too much already on this issue, u sound like u have a lot against muslims cos if u didnt u wuldnt use terms like shallow muslims or the insipid Quran, common this is someone's faith here. I also do not mean that pastors preach with the Quran , i only know that they respect muslims and do not judge them. I rest my case here, i wuldnt want to keep arguing with you, nairaland isnt for that.

@ifyalways- there really is a book with that title, the complete idiots guide is a collection of different books that covers various titles ranging btw education, entertainment, religion etc. The term in their own perspective means someone that knows next to nothing about a particular issue and then they try to enlighten you, simple.

So nairalanders , no be insult abeg.

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What then is Allah? the hindu or Rosicrucian god? Did you ever stop to think at all before expressing your "disappointment" and "shame"?

Honestly i admit a complete impossibility to understand the tripe you have written here. Since when has it become "bias" to declare that the christian God is different from that of the quran?

What is "radical" in declaring the truth that the God who inspired the bible CANNOT/CAN NEVER BE the same god who claims to have inspired the insipid quran? Pastors preach against "bias" but have you wondered what kind of bias? Please show me a church that uses the quran alongside the bible!

What have i judged? that Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour of the christian faith is NOT the same as the Allah in the quran?

I am honestly flummoxed at your silly resort to adhominems and knee-jerk reaction to an obvious issue. Perhaps you need to read the very book you recommended. . . The cardinal point of the bible is the death and resurrection of God who came down in human flesh, the quran clearly rejects this and yet you cry about "bias, judging and radicality" for pointing out these glaring differences?

Am i allowed to wonder why people are so quick to insult people when they express opposing oppinions?

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Don't you think you are going too far by abusing the God some people called Holy? Though you have your own right to say what you feel or think but not to the detriment of another man's GOD

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Yes, I cant agree more! The christian God, and the muslim one are very different beings.

The christian God is very manipulative, inconsistent and hypocritical.

The muslim God is quite violent and has severe punishments for both forgivable and unforgivable crimes against him and mankind.

They possibly cant be the same person!

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