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What Do You Feel About Black Jesus?

Are you offended by a Black Jesus?

Will a new movie “Son of Man” that portrays Christ as a contemporary African revolutionary change your perception of Jesus?

The film is set in the black townships near Cape Town and is performed in the African language of Xhosa.

Director Mark Dornford-May said "Christ has been hijacked a bit, he's gone very blonde haired and blue-eyed. The important thing about the message of Christ was that it is universal."

What do you think of a Black Jesus? How does it change your perceptions of Christ? Send us your comments using the form below.

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http://www.tektonics.org/books/snowdenprejrvw.html

Book Review:

A review of Frank Snowden's Before Color Prejudice

by

Aurelia Glenn

Regarding issues of inter-ethnic, and specifically interracial relations, a commonly expressed opinion is that ‘people of different races have always hated each other.’ This view stems from projecting our current mindset into the past. Americans, with our disdain for history, are especially prone to assume that the current state of affairs has always existed. Instead of taking interracial hostility as a given, scholar Frank Snowden examines artistic, folkloric, and textual evidence to ascertain the range of attitudes that ancient peoples held about each other in Before Color Prejudice. Specifically, Snowden’s book is an exploration of ancient Greek, Assyrian, Roman, Egyptian, and Jewish attitudes toward sub-Saharan African people. Like other scholars who have examined ancient evidence (such as St. Clair Drake), he notes that, “nothing comparable to the virulent color prejudice of modern times existed in the ancient world.”

Snowden mentions that ancient authors, such as the poet Virgil, often wrote in detail about the physical characteristics of the people they encountered, Africans being among those they described, as contacts between Africans and Mediterranean peoples were more common than many might suppose. Moreover, he wants to bring to our attention an often overlooked source of information: “The vast evidence of ancient art is an invaluable source of information concerning the black populations of antiquity.” To that end, he marshals an impressive collection of photographic plates of Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and Assyrian art to support his assertion. The vases, sculpture, and murals which he gathers to make his case make one wonder where all this paraphernalia was hidden (or was it under our noses all along, as many of the articles exist in Western museums). The photographs of the sphinxes and sculptures of the pharaoh Tiharka (mentioned in both Isaiah 37:9 and 2 Kings 19:9) are prime apologetic evidence. [Unwittingly, they serve the purpose that the explorer Livingstone had hoped, as he desired to explore the ancient history and culture of the peoples along the Nile, in part to prove the Bible true.] Concerning standards of physical beauty, Snowden contends that there can be a difference between people holding to a somatic norm image and racism-the former being the narcissistic perceptions of beauty common to any culture, and the latter (and more modern) notion that only one group is beautiful (and that other people confirm that assessment). He thus summarizes ancient attitudes toward the different types of physical beauty:

Thus “white” was for many in the ancient world a basic element in the somatic norm image, as it has usually been in predominantly white societies. The number of implied or expressed preferences in classical literature for white beauty exceeds slightly those for black or dark beauty. About this there is nothing strange. But what is unusual was the number of those in the Greco-Roman world who rejected the norm of whiteness and openly stated their rejection. As far as the Greeks and Romans were concerned, it seems that the matter was basically one of individual preference.

Such attitudes are in striking contrast to those expressed in the not-too-distant past, in which open denigration of African physical features was endemic in American society-a crumbling cultural pillar from which we are still recovering. Notes Thomas F. Gossett in Race: The History of an Idea in America, “It is striking how often one finds among intelligent and sensitive people of the period-North as well as South-crude reflections of racism. One thinks of Henry Adams’ contemptuous references to “n[**]gers” and of John Fiske’s account of a visit in 1877 to Baltimore, where he saw “elegant n[**]gers” promenading on the streets. Rayford W. Logan has studied the files of eminent magazines of the last part of the nineteenth century and found in Harpers, Scribner’s, Century, and to a lesser degree the Atlantic a fairly constant barrage of epithets applied to Negroes…” An example of such denigration was mentioned by James Loewen in Lies My Teacher Told Me, in which he mentions that when he tries to get people in all-white settings to sing a political song popular in 1864, they usually balk, replete as it is with petty negative references to body parts of black people (“ebony shins and bandy,” “blubber lips,” “bully feet to have the heels extended”).

Snowden raises the question of whether symbolism regarding the color black had any significant influence in shaping Greco-Roman attitudes toward Africans. He concludes that while there were negative references toward the color black in many societies (as well as in some extra-biblical Christian writings), ancient Mediterranean peoples did not extend negative references toward black in the abstract to black people. It took the Atlantic slave trade, many centuries later, to accomplish this dubious feat.

We are reminded by Snowden that initial encounters between Africans and other ethnic groups in ancient times were qualitatively different than those which occurred during the Renaissance era and the age of “Enlightenment,” which, ironically, was the period when the Atlantic trade was at its peak. Often, Africans were soldiers, even mercenaries, in various armies (as in part of Xerxes’ troops). Indeed, their fighting prowess was apparently well recognized; thus, they were often sought out for that ability. Such was apparently the case of Judah during the period of King Hezekiah (as also explained in the article in the August 1998 edition of Bible Review entitled “From the Land of the Bow”), which may be why Snowden declares, on page 45, “Kush appears conspicuously in the Old Testament as one of the great military nations of the time,” before mentioning the episodes in the Old Testament in which Kush and Kushites are mentioned (but does not provide verses in the body of the text).

In addition to the general social context, Snowden notices patterns of interaction and perception between various ethnic groups within various religious contexts. For instance, worship patterns of the goddess Isis were first mentioned, in which it was noted that the cult of Isis, though most prevalent among the Egyptians and Ethiopians, spread throughout the Greco-Roman world.

Interestingly, Snowden mentions that the “strong bond that united blacks and whites in the common worship of Isis was reinforced by Christianity. Like the Isaic cult, Christianity swept racial distinctions aside,” and draws the conclusion that “in the early church blacks found equality in both theory and practice.” What a contrast to the present! More important, such ancient equality is an indictment of the notion that forward motion in time necessarily brings about “progress” in terms of human relations. Professor Snowden has written an important book for people of all religious backgrounds (or none at all), one in which tired, intellectually lazy assumptions about Africans and relations between people of various ethnic groups are put to rest.

The reason that Romans were "racist" towards everybody else wasn't because of their skin color, it was because the Romans considered themselves civilized and everybody else were barbarians: northern Europe, Britain, etc; not skin color.

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http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/beforecolorprejudice.html

Before Color Prejudice: The Ancient View of Blacks

Blacks in Antiquity: Ethiopians in the Greco-Roman Experience

By Frank Snowden

Professor Emeritus, Department of Classics

Howard University

Here's two books published by Harvard University Press to raise the spirits of anyone of African descent who feels that he or she has nothing to do with the making of Western civilization. A must for your personal library. These books are highly recommended. Buy new or used to fit your budget.

According to Professor Emeritus Frank M. Snowden Jr., (AB, AM, Ph.D., ) Howard University Classicist Department --- reading of the sources, the Ethiopians "pioneered" religion, and were key to the origin and propagation of many of the customs which existed in Egypt. The Egyptians, it was argued, were descendants of the Ethiopians. Snowden states that the term Kushites, Nubians, or Ethiopians is to used in much the same way as the modern term "colored", "black, or Negro". "The experiences of Africans who reached the alien shores of Greece and Italy constituted an important chapter in the history of classical antiquity," he writes. "Using evidence from terra cotta figures, paintings, and classical sources like Herodotus and Pliny the Elder, Snowden proves, contrary to our modern assumptions, that Greco-Romans did not view Africans with racial contempt. Many Africans worked in the Roman Empire as musicians, artisans, scholars, and generals as well as slaves, and they were noted as much for their virtue as for their appearance of having a "burnt face" (from which came the Greek name Ethiopian)."

The Image of the Black in Western Art, Volume One: From the Pharaohs to the Fall of the Roman Empire

by Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow, Jean Vercoutter, Jean Leclant, Frank M. Snowden,

Jehan Desanges, Ladislas Bugner

During the fifteenth century BC, the pharaohs of the Eighteenth Dynasty established an empire extending from the Euphrates to the Fourth Cataract (Nubia). The southern conquests brought Egyptians into direct contact with black populations who continued to resist and counterattack. In the previous millennium black warriors and captives had occasionally appeared in the art of Egypt, Crete, and Cyprus. The Image of the Black in Western Art shows us, from the mid-fifteenth century to Tutankhamun's painted box depicting blacks in Egyptian art increasingly portrayed realistic and unmistakable Negroes.

Click Here

Professor Frank Martin Snowden Jr. (July 17, 1911- February 18, 2007)

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I feel a sense of joy knowing brother Jesus' true race.

When I visualize the way Jesus was brutalised by the Romans, i knew they couldn't do that to their kind.

It was their racist nature that made them treat him so, and it was their racist nature that still made them try to whiten him when it had become apparent the whole world would soon accept him as their Lord and Personal Saviour.

The Devil is a Liar!

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Horus,

Back when I moved to Texas for work in 1979, I was told by folks around here that I had a "funny" accent; I replied to them that I thought theirs was a bit odd too. American English, different dialect.

Foreigner, just about everywhere I go, I "stick" out, even around whites, I "stick" out.

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@blue-sky

I will state this again. The Islamic Jihad of Arabia is what brought Arabs to Africa. This happenned between 600 and 800 AD.

At that time, the whole of Egypt and Libya was made of Christians, Jews and Nature Worshipping AFRICANS. When the Jihadists entered it was virtually impossible to convert these hardcore believers from their faiths. And the code of the Jihad is either convert or die. So most of them had to die.

There are still a few African Egyptians who are the descendant of those who could muster enough cowardice to convert to Islam. When you see the drawings in the pyramids and the tombs of pharoahs, including DNA testing on the last greatest Pharaoh, Tuttakhamun, you will realise that the Egyptians are Africans and not today's Arab occupiers.

It's the same with the Fulani in Nigeria. If the Hausas and Yorubas in their way had not converted to Islam, they would have totally be exterminated and replaced by Fulanis.

Do you know that the original Jamaicans were of Mongoloid race? They were more like the red Indians. The Great Christopher Colombus wiped the whole of their civilization because they would not become slaves. He then began importing Africans who were easier to enslave. But today you would easily mistake that Jamaicans are ancestrally of African origin.

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Horus,

God is all-powerful; Jesus can be any "color" His Father wants Him to be.

BTW, the late Vine Deloria, jr. wrote a book back in 1972, entitled God is Red.

Try telling the American Indian that their God is BLACK,

Head knowledge (Facts) won't save you on the Day of Judgement, faith in Christ will.

John 3:16-18;

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

18Whoever believes in him is not condemned,

but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

Even the Qur'an speaks against "unbelievers."

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I feel great honour to finally know who the chosen people of God are and that the messiah of all mankind is one of us.

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@Paulus

FACTS and Facts only,NOT belief.(Look my previous post)

and I even quoted your question before my answer.

Now you dont answer my question because you CANNOT answer it.

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Horus,

Why should I answer your questions when you do not answer mine?

Paulus

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@Paulus

Black Mary and her child Jesus at Black Madonna sites throughout France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Portugal and other Catholic countries. FRANCE is the country in the world where the image of Black Mary is most worshiped.(So they know something!!).This is not something we black people are making up to mentally liberate our people, this is something that they the White people are saying.

On the internet (Google)look for the 3 words:France Black Madonna,and you will see at least 2.500.000 Pages of results.Don't believe me, Check this things out for yourself!!.When will our people begin to wake up?.This thing has gone on for far too long.

PS.(And still you did not gave me answers about my post on Blacks in Asia)

[img]https://www.gardenandsoul.com/v-web/ecommerce/os/catalog/images/Black-Madonna-greeting-card.jpg[/img]

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Horus,

You still haven't answered my question: Who (or what) do you put your faith (or trust) in?

Paulus

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Notice when he said:even if Jesus was 'black' .So for him he is white.

http://mysticlovenetwork.com/heisinnocent/Doctrine/TheBibleIsEgiptianBook.htm

646 Bible References on Egypt.

Read them all and these Biblical references will

prove that God came out of Egypt Jesus was Taught in Egypt,

Moses was made a God over Egypt

(Exodus 7:1)

and much, much more. 

Do YOU  really believe in the Bible?

If  YOU do then YOU must stop praising

False Caucasian Images of Divine,

and learn the Truth about The BIBLE

Source: http://mysticlovenetwork.com/heisinnocent/Doctrine/TheBibleIsEgiptianBook.htm

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But do you follow Jesus the Christ because of the reason you gave, or because He has the words of ETERNAL LIFE?

Do you believe that He died for your sins, and that He rose from the tomb, and ascended to His Father?

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i feel good about brother yashua's true identity and i am glad he is one of my ancestors.

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And this show that they are Hypocrite.

This thread is about:  What Do You Feel About Black Jesus?

(I hope you did read my post above about Blacks in Asia)

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Horus,

You are stereotyping, cousin. I had thought that this debate had been

between sensible people but you are trying to take it to a different level.

Like Hollywood is going to listen to a follower of Jesus Christ, hah.

What pictures I have of Jesus, he has a brownish hue.

White pictures of him IN [my] CHURCH; sorry, but I haven't seen a

"white" rendition of Jesus at church.

Something else, Horus, you have a hateful tone in your posting --

-- get rid of it.

Have I called down "the wrath of God" on you; NO, I haven't.

You, on the other hand, apparently have an axe to grind; have I

personally mistreated you before we got into this debate? Unless

our paths have crossed previously, you are taking your rage out

on me for what someone-else has done to you. I am not to blame

for what they did to you; by the same token, if a person trips me

at school -- I don't blame my neighbor for what happens at school.

I got a question for you, Horus --

Who (or what) do you put your faith (or trust) in?

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@ denex

I think is is a mistake I was replying to paulus

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@Horus

I have no idea what you're talking about and I don't know where you're quoting me from because I'm seeing those words for the very first time.

Me, I mentioned Buddha's race? i must have been high on something I've done no research whatsoever on the race of Buddha, and thus I have no right to discuss it. Maybe you're quoting someone else.

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Horus, that's one of the ways men "wear" their hair, it's not an effeminate style.

Seems that you like to pull things out of context.

We didn't "worship" his picture, we worship Him in our hearts.

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Yes, pilgrim.1., if our Lord Jesus looked like an Eskimo, Apache, Comanche, etc, -- it don't matter, it's not what He looks like; it's what He did for for all humanity.

Thank you, my brother-in-Christ.

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@Dios

Em, lemme see, ye think probably the Arabs could have come from Arabia?

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@ Denex So where did the arabs come from

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@Dios

the arabs you see in Palestine, Algeria, Egypt and Tunisia today invaded during the Jihads, 700 years after the death of Jesus. 700 years after the Roman Churches had continually attempted mass genocide of the original Jews.

@felom

People have often expressed their desire to kill me when I mentioned the Original Semitic Emigration From Africa.

But now BBC is suggesting that Jesus is most probably from Nigeria and people will not challenge them. We want the "white" people to return our stolen heritage.

And I repeat, that for those of you who think it is irrelevant if Jesus in African or European, ask yourself if it is irrelevant, why did he have to be converted to a European in the first place?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3958241.stm

So what colour was Jesus?

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Beast that Christians are worshiping.

First let us have a look at 1 Corinthians 11:14 [/b]where it states that [b]it is a shame for a man to have long hair. This goes to show you that the image of Jesus with long hair could NOT[/B] be the true image of the true Son of God, Jesus Christ.

[B]So why Christians are worshiping an  image of Jesus with long hair?

Revelation 22:18-19 in part states If any MAN shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. (19) And if any MAN shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. ( Don't this mean that even to portray Jesus as something he is NOT, is in essance taking away from this book , which means those who has lied about Jesus's apparence has lost their parts from the book of life and that the plague have been added to them written in the book of Revelation? (Hummmmm )

[B]So why Christians are worshiping an  image of Jesus with long hair?[/b]

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Does it really matter what skin colour He came with? How does that otherwise affect the salvation He came to give all races?

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Children of zion, do not go out of your way to subject yourselves to the degradation and humiliation of the agents of Babylon all in the name of enquiry.

Desist from referring to thyselves as BLACK. This is the definition that Babylon has inflicted on the brains of Africans to rob them of their heritage and paint them BLACK.

I have told them about the Bnai Ephraim (yoruba jews) of Ondo, and the Ibo Benei Yisrael, the Ozubulu families of Anambra, descendants of the Zebulun tribe of Zion. I have showed them that all these tribes including those of the Malian, Ethiopian and Sudanese Jews who made up the ORIGINAL SEMITIC EMIGRATION FROM AFRICA.

Yet they choose to believe the Babylonians who have invaded the land of Jerusalem and are laying claim on our heritage. The Europeans who have copied our religions and tried for centuries to dreadlock their hair without success are now passing themselves off as us, meanwhile our people are here asking ridiculous questions and trying to mock us.

The world is in the grips of Babylon and the agents of Babylon. Self absorbed in its decadent lifestyle.

The agents of Babylon have infiltrated even within the children of Zion.

Amongst us they tarrieth. That they may destroy and condemn us, even as Judas condemn Christ into the hands of the enemy.

Yet as Christ knew the betrayer, before the betrayer knew himself, so we know in here are but some of them.

Our eyes have been opened and we can see the enemy clear.

The destruction of the agents of Babylon shall be no less than obliteration of Babylon itself.

Nations of The east rise to "mash down" Babylon then Zion shall rise, rise so high to proclaim the glory of God.

It is written that there shall be some of the Children of God in Babylon of whom will love the life of Babylon. O ye agent of Babylon, in whichever way or form, ye shalt be smote from the face of the earth and the Lord God shall restore Zion.

As the Lord God said:

"I will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places which you have been banished and will bring you back to the place from which you were carried into exile."

I said Ibos are part of the Real Jews of Nri and Ozubulu from which THE ORIGINAL SEMITIC EMIGRATION FROM AFRICA took place but somebody in Nairaland wanted to kill me. How do you account for this their lifestyle and behaviour similar to those of the true jews in the Bible? I said it that the European jews we see today in Israel are fakes but people wanted to slit my throat.

Anyway, to the matter at hand, Jesus, my ancestor.

The Europeans have proven for years that Ham, the son of Noah is African. But they were afraid that would mean Noah too was African, so they lied through the "HAMITIC MYTH" that the curse on Ham was what made him become African.

Now they have started to discover that Shem in fact, was African too. So what are they going to say? That there was a curse that Africanised Shem too?

When I complain that these Europeans converted to Jews claiming Israel are not being fair, they say I'm anti-Semitic how the Zap can I be anti-Semitic to you when I'm actually the Semite?

Well, for those of you who do not know that truly, Shem is one of our ancestors, you better search on google and find out what the ORIGINAL SEMITIC EMIGRATION FROM AFRICA is. Search on google! These facts are being gradually erased from the internet.

Now, if Ham is an African and Shem Is an African, you will have to wonder about Noah himself. You'd have to wonder about Abraham, Jacob, Solomon and David. Then you would want to wonder when Jesus was converted to "WHITE".

It was when the Romans under the Emperor Constantine himself decided to convert to Christianity as the imperial religion. During the Nicene Conference, they decided that rather than Worship a Semitic Jesus, why don't they just convert him into a Caucasoid. Afterall, they'd tried. They'd converted from Idolatory to Christianity. Why can't one man just convert from Semitic to European? And afterall even the Semitic people whom he came for, they didn't care about him. In fact, they rejected him. So why not? This was how Jesus became "BORN AGAIN" from African one day to European the very next morning without his consent or even his presence, 300 years after his death.

For those of you that say it doesn't really matter, I'm afraid you are very lost. If it didn't matter, he wouldn't have been converted to white in the first place. If the truth didn't matter, a lot of Bishops wouldn't have been killed before, during and after the Council of Nicea to hide it.

If the truth didn't matter, Jesus himself would not have said that the truth would set you free.

Go into the Egyptian pyramids and see the writings and painting about Israelite slaves. Are there any "white" people there?

This is the same Grand Deception that made them try to convince us that the ancient Egyptians too were European. They just wished so much that Cleopatra and the Pharoahs were Europeans that even when they went into the tombs and found out otherwise, they still kept on lying. Thank God however that the Pyramids were so valuable that they didn't destroy them to hide the truth.

When more than 40,000 jews were found with ancient Torahs, speaking languages littered with Amharic in Nri (pronounced by the Europeans as Eri) and of the Ozubulu family (pronounced Zebulun by the Europeans) and they named them among the LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL.

Lost?! We never went anywhere. It's you who is lost. What family did you descend from, because you look kinda different.

Anyway, the "Israelis" came and donated a whole library of books to them. Books with new knowledge that would teach them that they, the Ozubulus, the Nris and also the Bnei Ephraim of Ondo descended from these new European Jews.

Well, then how can this be possible when all of science has shown us that the original people on Earth were Africans before several Albino mutations who were made outcast, migrated from the main populations, intermarried, stabilised their genetic make-up and now became the Caucasian. So how come only the Yoruba Bnei Ephraim and the Ibo Bnei Yakov (Jacob=Israel) reconverted back?

Then forget all these fancy names they keep giving them. Go and find out the real Amharic (Aramaic) names of these biblical characters and you will see that they are African Names. Jesus, Emmanuel, Isaac, Jacob, John the Baptist, Moses, Abel, David, Solomon. All these are fake names designed to Europeanise our ancestors even more. They have real African names.

JESUS (YESHUA HA' MESHIACH ) WAS AFRICAN whether you accept it or not is your own kettle of fish.

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Well, does gold look white (Pale) to you!

The Judahites were blacks (Nubians) and there are ample quotations in the buybill (bible) to justify this.

The Slave master want you to believe Jesus (Yashua) was pale-skinned (so-called white) with straight hair.

You try and prove that Jesus was white and had straight hair.

I bet you can't do it.

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This is because gold is not the same element as bronze (which is copper and tin combined).

First, you need to overstand the definition of the word furnace.

A furnace could be defined as a :-

Large oven or enclosed fire

a round brick structure in the blowing room built for the blowing of glass; in early times it was fueled by wood, later by coal, and now by gas.

Now, Stimulus, Go get a bronze utensil from your kitchen and place it on your cooker and come back and tell us what colour you get.

If you get white, please come back and tell us how you did it.

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Well, Acts 13 : 1 describe Jesus brother "Simeon" as a niger which is the same a nigger. And this implies that he was indeed a negro or black which ever you feel comfortable with.

Also in Revelations 1 : 15 it says that ": And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace;"

Now anything you burn in a furnace or oven will come out black. If you burn wood, paper or anything else for that matter in a furnace the fact is it would come out black. Like those nubians in Sudan.

So if his feet were black and the feet are joined to the ankle and the ankle is joined to the chin and the chin is joined to the knee and the knee is joined to the thigh and the thigh is joined to the torso and the torso joined to the chest and the chest joined to the neck and the neck joined to the head ,  guess what, he must of being black all over.

This is sound right reasoning ,  based on right knowledge, right wisdom and right overstanding.

But the devil has us looking up to the image of a Pale-skinned, blond straight hair and blue eye being.

So the church today is doing the opposite of what their own bible describes.

Why some people may ask?

I am no better than the rest of you good people ,  this knowledge does not make me better than you but it is the fact, Yashua (Horus, Haru who the european christians call Jesus) was a negroid.

Matthew 2 : 15

"Out of Egypt have I called my son"

Not the Egipt you see today in north eastern Africa and not the impersonators who reside there today, but pre-dynastic Egipt, which birthed the 46 dynasties. Which was black country. And blacks still reside there today,  but there are never shown on TV or in the media. Do your research. And you will see,  Ancient Tamare (falsely called Egypt by the Greek) has being invaded by many people of the Cauasian races. In 321 B.C  it was invader by Alexander the "Greek", the Romans invaded after that, and we have the 7 and 8 century Arab invasion. You can check these things up.

As a result the original people of the land have bleached out,  from mixing or being attacked and attacked by they invaders. That is why is place like Algeria, Morocco, Libya as far as Mauritania you will see Negroid with Cauasian features.

Why do you think Lamurudu (he was actually killed in battle with these pale Arabs of the desert) and Oduduwa fled the region? And settled in Ile-Ife.

And the only race of people who have hair like wool in the Negroid ,  Now take another good look at the so-called Jew and the texture of their hair ,  it is not woolly like that of the African and their skin is not like anything burnt in a furnace (Oven).

You can also investigate the forced conversion of Europeans (mainly from Russia, Germany and Spain) to Jews in the 11th Century A.D.

Why was there a force conversion of Jews? Who were the Original Israelites?

You have Israeliy and Israelites ,  they are not the Same. One is original, the other is not.

It's great knowing the truth about that Yashua (aka Jesus) was black, and it makes plenty of sence now , seeing the state of the world we live in today , and the condition of the black woolly haired people and their sufferings.

This is why Yashua wrote in the year 98 A.D the book of revelation

Revelation 2 : 9

": I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3 : 9

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

He could see what was happening , and we now know those people parading themselves as Jews today, praying in Synagogues.

Don't believe me, check it out for yourself.

Jews for Africa could be found at:

http://www.mindspring.com/~jaypsand/photos7.htm

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@ stimulus:

hehehehe. . . .times change bro, with it the lingo.

Besides, people like Horus need their holes clapped since their brains are empty cones.

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Hello naria land pls i have some friends who are in need of jobs. they read accounting,international relations and sociology.I will really appreciate it if i can get job opening relating to these areas.God bless and thanks again.

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@ stimulus:

i agree 100%. The latter seems to be the most viable option for now. . .

And if Aro doesn't curb the mofo, then it seems. . . .it's seems we'd have to transport good ol' Horus to Yankari Games Reserve as an endangered specie - racist psychopath, Genus - Homo retardus.

Obviously, he'd make good friends among the Laughing Jackals. . .

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OFF TOPIC,This Thread is  What Do You Feel About Black Jesus?

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@ stimulus:

i actually know a drugstore that sells them Purple Haze Hozac pills for the depressed, no questions asked. . .

Either that, or we take the next available option - bag and ship him to Aro Intensive Care Unit for the racist psychopath. . .

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@ Horus:

dude, you seriously need to take them pills.

As at the time of Jesus, the Romans had conquered most of the known world, Egypt included. Egypt was then a friggin pot pouri of ethnicity, cultures what have you. Being with or without colour was a non-issue there.

You seriously need to lay off the hashish for a while. If you blindly continue to imply that Jesus was of colour, then of what Colour was Herod? If Herod was of Roman citizenry and a leader, how could he have been of colour? If Joseph and Mary were running from Herod, then doesn't that click in ur brain that Jesus' parents, supposedly of colour, would look out of place in a place/province filled with non-coloureds?

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yeah but we have AGREED that jesus was BLACK now! LOL

also, Egypt being the hustling and bustling nation that it was would have had people from every corner of the world so seeing a "WHITE" jesus would not have arroused any suspicion. also, they were not looking for jesus in egypt! (just trying to use MY common sense here)

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when Jesus was born, the king in his region got wind that a savior had been born. he ordered that all male babies in his land be killed. to spare him, mary and joseph were told to go to egypt to hide Jesus.

whether you believe in the story or not consider this:

If they could get away with hiding Jesus in egypt, he must have been a child of color, not blonde, not white.

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don't you just love the "peace that passes all understanding!" AMEN!

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What facts am I ignoring? As far as I can tell, all available scientific knowledge is compatible with my beliefs. I'm not sure what other facts there are that could make a difference.

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Puhleeze, will you shut your trap with all this recycled BS! Start thinking independently, dammit!

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debosky,

i need your address to send the first prize to! LOL

CASE CLOSED!

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Personally, I do not subscribe to putting any importance on depictions of Jesus Christ, it is not necessary for faith, neither does it enlighten me more about God's instructions or His will. the truth is, it smacks of an inferiority or superiority complex to try to paint Christ as either white (so the Europeans can 'claim' him and feel comfortable) or black ( so the Africans and co can 'claim' him and have some superiority over the whites)

its all a load of bull if you ask me. Jesus was the complexion of the Jewish people living in the area known as Palestine (Roman name) at a period in time roughly 2000 years ago. whether that is white, black, ash, yellow, purple, grey or polka dot is totally irrelevant.

afterall there are 'black' people in Australia and papua new guinea, yet they don't claim to be 'African' which is what I feel this claim is all about - to make Jesus an 'African product'.

it is a case of chasing shadows and leaving the substance behind.

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1)-Yashu’a Bar Maryam – Jesus The Son of Mary (The true one; a Messiah) (John 1:45)

But All 3 where Blacks

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Horus, i know you are going to throw more spittle about your prejudice against whites.

Just do us all a favour -

shut ya hole and answer Telly B's questions!

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Hey, i will like to know are you a Christian or what for the way you sound i find it hard to fit you in, but all the same if we want to talk about TRINITY, which means God the father, Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit.

For the three Jesus you are talking about they is no such thing has three Jesus, in John 1:45 they were still talking about this same Jesus and this is what was said "Philip went off to look for Nathanael and told him, "We have found the very person Moses and the prophets wrote about! His name is Jesus, the son of Joseph from Nazareth." and for Acts 13:6 the person been talked about there is not Jesus it is Bar-Jesus who was a sorcerer (a false prophet), and in Colossians 4:11 that is not also Jesus for as you can see he is a Christian co-worker which he was working with Paul and he is mainly called Justus. With all this you can see that we only have one JESUS.

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@Horus,

# what is your proof that Jesus was BLACK?

# what did your BLACK jesus do for you?

# what do you know about your black jesus that no one has heard of until recently?

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@Horus,

The Bible did not say Jesus Christ the Son of God was BLACK. Don't try to be patronizing here after losing your black jesus identity.

Where is the connection with the sorcerer being the "son of Jesus" or of Mary Magdalene in Acts 13:6?

And this is assumed to be your black jesus, yes??

We hear you; and yet you have not been able to explicate issues clearly even when YOU read the same Bible.

And in spite of the common occurence of the name "Jesus", where is your black jesus among the many? Is he such a shadowy figure that you have looked in vain and still not found him?

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