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What Exactly Is Islam?

Dear people:

There has been a lot of discussions on what Islam is or is not. Having analysed the islamic faith from Origin; read the quran verses; researched the life and lifestyle of the Islamic chief prophet i.e. Muhammed; and look at the 'fruits of Islam' i.e. the muslimis' and muslimas; (whether they call themselves moderates or liberals or fundamentals, there is no difference), I have come to the following conclusion about the faith called Islam:

Islam is 'one of the products' of the devil, working through a false prophet, who takes an unscriptural ideology, adds some true scriptures to it for some credibility and also to deceive, and then makes it into a covert satanic ideology.

That's the conclusion of the matter: if you also analyse the islamic faith rigorously, you will see all the components mentioned above.

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@belloti,

In what respects?

Would you rather prefer the hard way out of hell fire? Care to explicate Sura 19:71, hmm?

I don't read your lips on that. What doctrines would you be able to table on the Forum for discussion that you could confidently hold your tuff?

We've been asking you chaps who travel the downward slope to oblige us some reasoned explanation for your indulgences. Should we keep our fingers crossed for you?

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Batu, i was tempted to i share your sentiment about christianity too but i guess its obviously worst than that.

To date i always ponder how anyone in his senses could be a christian. i cant see the rationality in it but i guess its an easy way out of believe in God and worship.

Islam is a doctrine you know very well but choose to hate with fear and uncertainties. you see islam as a threat and a barrier to life of indulgence. Am sure you know what exactly islam is just like your co-traveller david and other passengers. Its about time you look inward and re-assess your fake analysis, you probably missed the point somewhere.

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Lo @batu,

We know that Muhammad got so many issues mixed up. Muslims do not like to hear this; but if the Qur'an claims to have recognized Biblical characters and then fabricated recorded narratives connected to the Biblical characters mentioned in its pages, then indeed people should be asking questions and making inferences.

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i always have that opinion that anybody who believes that there are other gods is committing a sin because there is no other god apart from the one GOD. so i wonder why u guys are asking who Allah is.

its just like saying Oluwa is not God or Chukwu is not God.

am sure christains in germany and other non english speaking countries wont understand the word God but wud have their own names to refer to the creator.

that was why Muhammed used Allah which is arabic name for God so why do u guys have a prolem wit dat.

the problem i have with present day muslims is that they dont accept Christ as the Son of God when indeed Muhammed acknowledged dat. if u read the story of Muhammed not koran

*i know i wud be attacked very soon*

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this issue has been overflogged. The only way Abraham could have built the kaaba is if he lived to be more than 5000 yrs old. Do you have any archeological or historical evidence that abraham built the kaaba beyond the unreliable words of mohammed?

When did this fairy tale occur?

Since muslims do not believe in Jesus as THE CHRIST, it is impossible for you to accuse anyone of being the anti Christ.

If sura 19:30 is your own example of what Jesus Christ taught then i can accurately claim that you nor any other muslim really knows what Jesus taught. The plagiarised words of a maurading prophet do not make any difference. For a clear idea of what Jesus Christ taught, please read the bible.

The Jews rejected Jesus Christ as the promised Messiah. The jews are not fighting muslims rather it is the muslims who are struggling to carry out the fanatical and heinous wishes of mohammed that all jews would be annihilated before the end would come. No one is fighting islam save for muslims themselves, if in doubt please see pakistan, iraq, palestine e.t.c.

These great biblical heroes have nothing to do with islam. Mohammed merely borrowed their names to lend credibility to his fraud. The inability of the quran to do much more than merely mention their names when it is convenient to do so is sufficient proof.

No! It is because:

1. muslims are the most violent bunch of religious adherents on earth.

2. High birthrate

Based on what evidence? The mere words of mohammed himself?

Who is using Osama? Perhaps you meant to say the devil himself is using him. Osama is a religious terrorist! His myriads of acts and videos is enough proof.

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lol belloti please try and reason critically. Islam indeed is a barrier to life whether one of indulgence or of piety. Aye one needs only listen to some of the statements by muslims who claim to love death than life.

I agree with you that islam is a religion of "peace". One needs only look at the happenings at the al masjid mosque in islamabad to show how "peaceful", "loving" and "tolerant" muslims really are.

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@doyenn,

I know you opened that rejoinder to batu's with some reaction, but let me make an observation:

It is undeniable that most Muslims have actually done what you complain about here. Not long ago we were discussing Sura 19:71 on the Forum with another Muslim (babs787) and he actually quoted those translators who have added several words to that verse. There is no place in the Qur'an where Allah mentioned a "bridge" where Muslims will "pass over" the hell fire spoken of in that verse; and yet your own Muslim translators and disciples have added that word of their own accord.

Would you still regard them as "submitting to the will of God" after they added their own word to that verse in the Qur'an?

First, you haven't been able to 'treat' some topics you opened threads with.

Second, are you trying to force Islam on people because you believe that it is the only religion? We know how Muslims have tried to establish the religion of Islam - and it has always been a matter of "you like it or not"!

Don't let anyone deceive you. Even in the Qur'an, it is not said that Jesus called His religion "Islam" - and any attempt to dress it up as if He did will be analysed carefully to show that it is nothing but what Muhammad thought.

People are not born with a religion - not even Christianity or Buddhism or Islam. People make a conscious decision to become adherents of any religion.

How do you deal with the contamination and impurity in Islam?

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If wat is in ka'aba is wat is gettin you confused or the dealth that's following islam around let me say to you that,people have been working to the downfall of islam right from day 1. The reason is not far fetched,what really amaze them is exactly what is amazing you right now,they wonder how God is able to do all wat he's doing without omitting a sinlge one. Let me tell you,peolpe have been fighting in the course since the time of Abraham coz he's the one that built the ka'aba you just mentioned.

The people are the one that fought Jesus to the extent that God have to interferred. Dont you know the anti christ,it is Jesus they go against or what he teaches.The same people that are fighting islam were the one that fought Jesus.The fought Moses,Abraham,Noah and all the prophet.Why the Islam is more pronounce is because it's the religion that is meant for us all. Prophet mohammed is the only prophet sent to all man kind.All other prophet was sent to their people.

Look at the issue of Osama,they used him to destroyed some nations,their plan is to nail him after using him but when the plan fails,they change the topic to religious crises and called it terrorism. This issues are what we should look into. there are so many proof on the net if you want.

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No one is disputing that islam in arabic means peace, the question is where is this "peace"? Why does death, destruction, deciet, hate, rage and intolerance follow islam everywhere? 105 people where killed by bomb blasts in Iraq over the weekend. . . that is islam's definition of peace!

Not so sir, Allah was just one of the many idols in the ka'aba pre-mohammedan times. Did all the idols also translate to "god" in english? You can translate Allah to mean "god" in english however you like, the bottomline is he is NOT the God christians serve and adore!

the same "god" who allegeldy would not forgive pharaoh even though he begged with sand in his lungs?

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I wonder the type of person batu is,you don't even fear your God before u make conclusion.You that does not even know why your parent name you that name u're called with.you have the mouth to say such things about Islam. Islam means Peace and muslims are people of practice this peace religion.

The reason why the satan got himself into trouble is what people here are doing,instaed of you to ask what do not know,you start jumping into conclusions.

Do you now see clearly now that people on earth now are the end people,judging by what i heard in the house 2day,i can see it that most of the people behind now are not God's own people. Maybe some of you doesnt know that you use english when you say 'God' It's called Allah by the most gracious language God has created.

try and research t about God very well before you say anything because anything you say or do would be use hereafter to judge you.If you don't know,the first sin that nail the satan is his words of proudness. He called Gods names in front of some creatures he was leading before he turned to satan. maybe you don't even know the meaning of satan.

seek for forgiveness if you are truely for God. Islam is not a religion you can just jump into and start doing,it needs lots of knowledge,this knowledge require you to study wat the past prophet have done in their time,how they use their book in telling people how great God is. God said that we shld seek him b4 we worship,if it involves you travelling for research to investigate things that you're not cleared about,just do so.

Submitting to the will of God means one must totally accept the preaching of God as instructed us in the holy book. A muslim must not in any way add or remove to the words of God no matter how little. total submission means absolute adherence to God's way and abstainance from what he forbids.

guys in the house,there is no religion except islam if you like it or not. I've seen lots of things and i'll keep telling you.Any topic you want us to treat i'll tell you.

Traditionalist-idol worshipping starts from the day of Adam-one of his son kills his brother and satan trick him to mould his image so that he can ask for his 4giveness,that was what started building images of dead people.

Christianity-there is no such religion before jesus and Jesus himself does not call his religion christianity,followers of Jesus are called christians and not his religion.

Other practices came from people and not God.

Islam is the only religion that followed me and you to this world because God said We are born being a muslim. Look at rain,when it falls from heaven,it's pure but when dropped on our dirty container,it turns to something else. the same goes for us,when u're born by a tarditionalist,your life become contaminated and unpure.

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Most Muslim today will tell you that Islam means to submit to the will of Allah , however, there is no attribite for Allah that refers to him as the Submitter.

Who does Allah submit too? If Allah submits to anyone then he can not be the Most High.

The fact is that Islam as it's root from the word Salaam (Shalom) which means peace

When you call yourself a muslim ,  the word "mu" means up salim has it's roots also in the word Salaam.

So basically the word Muslim means up peace makers and the word Islam means peace.

The brand of Islam practiced in Gambia is peaceful, not to be confused with the fanatical brand which is practiced by the Turkish and Hindu Arabs which is related to the opposite of peace.

Also the Al Islaam as taught by the "Al Madhi" of Sudan in Africa is peaceful, This is where Islam originated, before it was infiltrated by the turks and the rest is history today.

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Nobody argues that Islam means submission to the will of Allah. The question is who is this Allah that they submit to. Cant be the Creator or this Universe sha.

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1. what does "submission to the will of Allah" mean? Does anyone know what this amorphous will of Allah really is?

2. Sorry dear, for the bible declares that the devil has turned himself into an angel of light! The bible also acknowledges that the devil and his cohorts acknowledge the Sonship of God and bow down.

What part of mohammed's message did his followers twist? Marrying 30 wives, child sexual abuse, murder, intolerance, hate? I would conclude that his followers are following his teachings to the very letter. The moderate muslims (aka those in denial) may conclude otherwise.

What part of the teachings of Christ has His followers twisted?

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@otuwe,

That again is your personal opinion.

Please could you give us how many such teachings you know that his followers twisted?

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this is ur opinion so its better if u dont generalise.

islam means submission to the will of Allah how can the devil take part in proclaiming that there should be total submission to the will of God.

i wouldnt call Prophet Muhammed a false prophet because there is no evidence to call him dat. He was another messenger of God who brought His message to his people, left and his followers twisted his whole teachings just the way church goers are twisting the teachings of Christ

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Well, there are many Muslims (men and women) who are very intelligent and live exemplary lives. I know because I've met some of them. What could be argued is that some of them may not actually be following every tenet, or interpretation, of Islam as offered in the Qur'an.

Extremists and fundamentalists (includining "Christian" extremists and fundamentalists) may give a religion a bad name. However, when one takes the time to investigate the religion of Islam from the "best example" to the ummah (Muslim people), the question to be asked is:

Are such extremisms in Islam different from the type of Islam Muhammad offered?

Some Muslims have deep respect for the beliefs of other people; but the majority of Muslims clearly do not, because they believe that Islam is the only religion acceptable to Allah. That is why such extremism will continue - because they are encouraged by the Muslim authorities who encourage them as a means of achieving the spread and establishment of Islam.

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i am afraid to say i share the same views as you.

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