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What Is Atheophobia?

Atheists have long been looked down upon and criticised for their beliefs. While open debate as to whether God exists is widespread, so are prejudiced views that paint atheists as lesser people. These views lead to insulting comments and occasionally downright hateful attacks aimed at atheists, the majority of whom are happy to live alongside religious peoples.

What Is Atheophobia?

Atheophobia is an irrational fear or hatred of atheists that manifests as a strong prejudice against those who do not believe in a God. Put short, it leads to anti-atheist bigotry.

This bigotry includes claims that atheists:

- are morally inferior

- are a cause of evil

- have rejected God and embraced sin

- intend to destroy religion and religious holidays

- have meaningless or decadent lives

- should not be allowed to express their beliefs

- are unsuitable for positions of responsibility

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Hmmm....a great thread before my time

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lol, ok.

@ David, amebo no fit u.

@ Chris, there I said it are you happy now?

It's very relevant to my point, I was going somewhere with it.

You were right on one, Reproduction. You do not need to have sex to have recreation, you will be satisfied by other means. You don't need to have sex for relation, before sex occurs there already is a relation, you don't just point to a person and have sex with them. Even in one night stands you at least know something about the person.

Reproduction is the only thing that is reliant on Sexual organs. It is the main purpose of sex. The ends is procreation, the means to the end are recreation and relation.

IVF is unnatural and even that cannot be done without the reproductive system, and that's what I've been getting at. Most people don't choose to have sex for procreation, yet procreation occurs, why?

Most people choose to have sex for relational purposes and yet they end up at procreation, that's why we have abortion and birth control pills and condoms, why do we need this if the main purpose of sex can be relational or recreational?

I am not a sex professional, but I don't need a textbook to tell me that when a man and woman have sex the end result is procreation. These professionals only elaborate more on the practice of people today. They don't state what the main function is for, they only state that well nowadays people are using sex for exercise and relational purposes, because these just happen to be the benefits.

Sex is not rocket science.

We have shifted the purpose of sex to include many other things, and that is why we are having homosexuality and are now trying to define it as natural to the human species.

For goodness sake you can get the same feeling from humping a chair or sticking your joystick in something with a "hole effect", and yes you can get recreational benefits that way, should we all start humping chairs and calling it natural or sticking manlinesses in something with a "hole effect?"

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http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquinas/summa/sum005.htm

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I am sure you know that whole dog talk is irrelevant to this discussion so I will stick to the point.

I answered your question in my last post. The main function of the sexual organs is SEX.

Sex achieves the following purposes

1 Reproduction

2 Recreation

3 Relation

Because we are complex beings we have found means to seperate them, thus one can gave sex for a variety of reasons. I hope you know there is something called IVF and so sex per say does not have to be involved for one to reproduce.

One can choose to have sex for any or two or all of the three purposes.

That wiki page contained links to books and from professionals in this field, surely you are not one ( thats obvious from your posts) so how do you know that you are right? Is it just your basic human instinct?

Can I have the answers to my questions now? Be fair to me na

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Lol, leave David alone jo.

Eya pele, I will continue to see it that way until you answer my question. All you did was give me information on what people do nowadays, which isn't always right. Just because it's done that way doesn't mean it is supposed to be done that way, or is the function of the anus for sex?

Some women are havin sexual intercourse with their dogs (I've actually come across some that do, yuck) soon enough it will find its way into Wiki as something that people for sexual intercourse, for sexual pleasure, should we accept that too.

Just because wiki posts it doesn't mean it is supposed to be done that way.

So I'm going to ask you one more time, WHAT IS THE MAIN FUNCTION OF THE SEXUAL ORGANS/REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM?

These are things that come with it. The usual end result when proper sexual intercourse takes place is procreation, it just so happens that it is pleasurable. Pleasure can be derived from many things, but you can only procreate through the sexual organs/reproductive systems.

A benefit of sex is a boost to the immune system, whoo hoo, however, the immune system can still be sustained with other means, infact if one needs a boost in the immune system the cure is not sex, but you can only procreate through the sexaul organs/reproductive systems. Sex is also beneficial for good exercise, but we all know that when someone is obese the doctor doesn't prescribe sex as a type of work out, they are to go running, walking, dieting, lifting weights and all that. So as you can see exercise can be gotten by other means. But you can only procreate through the sexual organs/reproductive systems.

To have sex, one needs to move, that gives exercise, exercise is moving, and it helps boost the immune system, but we all know that the sexual organs/reproductive system are used for procreation. That is the only way you can procreate, that is the main function.

The mouth is not a sexual organ, the anus is not a sexual organ, the hand is not a sexual organ. The sooner we start remembering that the better for us.

This actually helps my argument. The male and female sexual organ compliment each other, even for men to get pleasure they need some kind of a hole. For MouthAction, the mouth is formed to have a "hole effect" even when he self services the hand is formed to have a "hole effect" (hope you get the picture I'm painting)

For females, they need a pointy thing, hence the Romance-Machine, the finger, the tongue (for talented men), they need something that is fashioned after the male sexual organ, and males need something that is fashioned after the female sexual organ. They were made for each other, they compliment each other.

Can a joystick satisfy a joystick? Can a womanliness satisfy a womanliness? Even if it's not for procreation. Why do they need other things, why can't they be pleasured with their sexual organs alone?

My point is, we've gotten away from what the purpose of sex is and attached so much to it and it terrifies me to think of where we are going to end up. Soon enough we'll be figuring out how to help a woman and her baboon husband get a child because they are so in love and want to grow their "family"

The line between humans and animals are wearing thin and trust me it will soon disappear. Now we're using the fact that some animals are naturally homosexual to define human homosexuality as natural even though we cannot truthfully say that homosexuality is natural within the human species.

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What does the word concealed mean?

Do women show external signs when they are in estrus?

You are telling me of counting. *hisses very loudly*

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Lol, so when did humans become bonobos and dolphins? When did humans and dolphins and bonobos get on the same level?

What's next a driver's license for a dolphin? A voter's registration card?

Why is it that you can't show evidence of homosexuality being natural in the human species (as I asked)? You always jump to the animals.

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I guess you meant to write "If the bible is not the word of God". I do not go into debates on why I do not believe that the bible is  the word of God. Each person should find that out for himself. As per your other questions, I think we have debated such in detail so time last year and it may not be necessary to repeat our well known postions on the matter.

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If the bible is the the word of god, then what is it? Does god speak to us? If so, how does he speak to us?

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Hi huxley. I do not believe that the bible is the word of God. In many debates that I have had with you, I have always made this point whenever you asked about. All religion without exception has a history of bigotry or violence commited in the name of God. My position is and will always be that those acts are not from God and the pepatrators of these murders, violence or bigotry acted out of their own free will. Murder is murder in the sight of God wheather pepatrated by a christian, an islamist, an atheist or an agnostic. It is the nature of the activity that determines wheather something is evil or good and not the religion, sex, social status etc of the pepatrator. I hold that the manifestation of the will of God has the intrinsic attributes of LOVE and JUSTICE. That means that where love and justice are lacking, then the activity or event or process is not from God but rather the evil activities of men. Obedience to the will of God will produce human beings who will love other human beings and will not seek to harm them in anyway. Indeed genuine service to God demands that one love even those that hate him or her. Thus for a genuine worshiper of God, bigotry, intolerance, violence, crusades, jihads etc are completely out of the question.  Whenever violence, hatred, animosity, bigotry and enmity against those of different convictions  arise in us, then evil is lurking even when we call ourselves "children, men or prohet  of God" Evil is alien to God and it should and must be alien to those who truely serve God. Stay blessed.

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And you say there is no God, we say show us. Abi u no dey make claim as if na fact? so show us.

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Lol I know we have attached several purposes for sex, but oga abeg be truthful with yourself and others, what is the main purpose for sex and the sexual organs. If you want to enhance your immune system does the doctor prescribe sex? If you want to reduce prostrate cancer does the doctor prescribe sex?

Abeg be truthful with yourself, what is the purpose of sex and the sexual organs, the reproductive system? Can you procreate without these? Can you procreate by taking immune system enhancing pills?

Seriously the benefits of sex has become the function of sexual organs? For real? Please kindly explain this.

I would love for you to bring in the biology.

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chris read your bible.

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How does one prove a negative? You say there is a God we say show us.

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Lady

Like I told you earlier if you have no concrete proof of what you are saying at least admit that it is a hunch.

First of all what do you have a problem with?

Homosexuality as a sexual orientation?

Homosexuality as a sexual behavior?

Or

Homosexuality as a sexual identity?

Your knowledge of sexual issues is wish washy . Its a shame biology bores me, so I will not be going into some long assed explanation of those terms. But I am sure anyone reading can easily google up those terms and see the distinct differences, I am just tired of repeating them.

Finally your kindergarten genetics might work for the brain washed christians, but if you had taken the time out to at least google your claim before you made it you would have realised it was very ludicrous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse

So you see lady, sex is a lot more complicated than having kids, you can find loads of info on just that page alone.

You seriously need to brush up on the subject before making claims.

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By the way . . .

None of the atheists on this forum have been able to provide A TANGIBLE PROOF for the non-existence of God.

Its absurd, how can they NOT believe in a God whose existence they CANNOT disprove?

They post arguments here and there, which fall like a pack of cards at the slightest probing.

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that wasn't about atheists, you don't have to believe in a supreme being, but please stop allowing ridiculousnessis that even a word? and immorality and unnatural things in our society.

The human genetics shows us that male and male doesn't match, female and female doesn't match. In nature we are to reproduce, and we cannot reproduce with same sex. Even if sexual intercourse doesn't take place the specimen (male) and egg (female) have to come together. The human sexual organ was made for a purpose and that is procreation, if it is not we wouldn't take great precautions to stop the process of procreation. Since same sex cannot procreate, it is unnnatural.

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@huxley

You have been posting Theophobic messages on this forum for a very long time. What do you have to say about that?

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@lady

Here is what you said in your initial post

You went further to assert that an example of this "lawlessness" is the gay rights and that it is unnatural.

There is something in arguments known as burden of proof, you first of all said that it is unnatural, I said give me supports for your claim that it is, how hard can that be?

The burden of proof is on you, because they are so many people who have so much to loose for declaring that they are gay. Lady show the whole nairaland proof that being gay is not natural.

If you are screaming justice then we have to allow them get married, who did they harm?

No more assertions give us something to hold on to, like someone here on nairaland said, uncertainty is a very honest state of the mind.

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Where did I say that we have to go to the Bible? Please stop making assumptions as usual.

No the Bible isn't the last place you run to. It may be for you, but not for me. If you have truly read the Bible, you will see that the many problems we face today are nothing new. There is nothing new under the sun. We run to many books written by men and some tactics have been proven wrong, but if someone mentions something religious, you jump up and say they are written by men and can't be trusted. This sounds like you have a phobia towards religious people, instead of the other way around. Did it ever occur to you that you are victimizing us too?

Post the link for me pls.

I seriously want someone to define when life begins and if it's not conception, what is it at conception? A chair, a desk? which one?

You never debunked it, you still haven't shown me how it is natural within the human species, as that is what I've been talking about.

If you seriously want to have this discussion again, I will oblige you. It's high time you stop screaming foul. Society will be down the drain without laws. Everyone will do what they want and the earth will be destroyed.

How does the Chritian law support the jailing of women when they are Molested? Have you forgotten that the U.S. laws are based on Judeo-Christian principles? How many people are oppressed by it? Are you oppressed by the laws? The laws are geared towards justice. And sorry my dear homosexuality is not natural and therefore will be an injustice to us all, yes including you. And that it allows freedom for all. Seriously how does the sharia law compare to the U.S. law, it is not governed by the Church, the U.S. law is not a christian or jewish law, it is a people law and the people believe in the judeo-christian prinicples.

Our society has completely forgotten the appropriate functions of sex and that's why we are having this problem with homosexuality. Sorry but they are not oppressed people, the Christians who are called bigots for standing up for what they believe are the oppressed people. How is it that homosexuals can stand up for what they believe and we can't? How is that justice?

They stand up for something without proof, and unless you are willing to show me the proof, please don't start screaming foul.

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I think that was Nick Clegg, the Leader of the Liberal Democrats.

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@Huxley

You are very right, infact this led to a UK politician (forgotten his name) having to claim agnosticsm when the pressure on him became so much and his political future was threatened by his atheist beliefs.

This is not totally true Lady, not all atheists support all those things you stand against; in fact some christians support these things.

I also don't beleive most people (athests and christians) who are pro-choice are foetus murderers like most of you religious folks make them out to be, there was a case in Ireland some years back that didn't make much sense where a foetus was diagnosed with a medical condition (didn't have a head) and the doctors couldn't abort the foetus becos the "Catholic" laws of the country prohibited it. The poor girl wanted to go abort the foetus in the UK and her passport was siezed.

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I keep reading kool aid this and kool aid that. I am presuming it is a diss, but what does it mean exactly?

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see this militant imaginary son of jehova. bindex no mind am. aks am btw the 2 of you who is drinking the cool-aid?

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I beg to differ. I suppose you are a Christian and believe the bible is the written word of God. If so, can you demonstrate using the bible that those true believers in God do not bear ill thoughts or hatred towards non-believers

On the contrary, there are dozens of places in the bible where the non-believers in the Jewish God are victimized and killed specifically because the worship other gods.

On a more recent note, the history of the spread of Christianity is littered with hatred, bijotry, violence and war in the name of the Christian god. Now you could argue that those who persecuted these violent campaigns were not true Christians. If so, in what way are they different for the belligerent god-inspired warriors of the Old Testament, the likes of David, Joshua, Moses, Ezekiel, etc, etc?

In what ways were Constantine's , Charlemagne's or the Crusaders' campaigns to spread Christianity different from those of David, Moses, Joshua? Were these people not true believers?

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M_ Nwankwo, i agree with you almost totally.

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There you go again lady, we have been through this before the bible is the last place to run to when we are looking for morality, the laws of any nation should not be based on any religion whatsoever so what are you saying?

Its good you say you have not been informed about when life begins and what can constitue murder, there is an abortion right or crime thread here that deals with the issue maybe you should read it.

As for people being gay we have gone through this countless times, maybe you have better supports for your claim this time around other than it is unnatural because that has been debunked, we all know it happens in nature. Where are the supports for your claims? Bring it forward because laws cannot be made or repealed because of what you feel or because of what some men who knew nothing of how the human body works wrote. No more assertions we need supports for those claims that homosexuality is not natural.

This is the reason why we cannot leave society in your hands, I am sure you will scream foul play if the sharia law became the supreme law in the US. Religious people will destroy this earth.

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Adam, your own attitude alienates you. nothing to do with ur religious inclination.

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truthfully huxley is right!

With intolerant christians like Davidylan and busybein, its difficult not be discriminated against especially when they hold the power of persuasion over their fellow christian folks to hate and segregate other atheists!

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I am reading of this word "atheophobia" for the first time. A true believer in God has no fear or phobia and neither does such a person express bigotry to anyone including those who share convictions different from his. However one must remember that what you openly or surrepticiously wish for your fellowmen comes back to you in multiples. You sow wind and you reap a whirlwind. Thus if you look down on others whose convictions are different from yours, you will certainly be looked down on, if you trample or mock the convictions of others, then the same will happen to your convictions etc. Our compalints about others are in all cases a reflection of what we do to other people, that is, you can accurately predict your character or that of you neighbour by the very things that drives you or them crazy . People who critisize others justifable or unjustifiably go into frenzy when critisized. Love is the fundamental basis of any genuine worship of God,and he who has this love of God loves all human beings irrespective of their beliefs, status, sex etc.

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eeyah pele, drink some cool-aid. u'll soon feel beter.

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1 I have never heard of atheophobia

2 Your post is quite ridiculous

3 When Religious fight you, we fight for our own right, and natural law also. Most atheists want morality to go down the drain, some may not even recognise that they do, we don't want our earth to become ruined by lawless people. example of this is the fight for gay marriage and acceptance of homosexuality in society, and abortion rights. sorry but homosexuality in the human species in unnatural and i haven't been informed when life begins if not at conception.

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