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Which Is The Real Jesus?

Going through the bible, I came across some Jesuses. There is nothing wrong in coming across names when reading any book but christians made me believe that the name is one of the reasons why Jesus is God. The holy spirit told him that the son shall be called Immauel Jesus, meaning God with us. So if the name Jesus shows that he is God , how many Gods are we having because we have the names in four or five different places.

Secondly, I found out that the Jesuses share different attributes,as a result want to know which is the real jesus out of them all.

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Acts 13 v 6: when they had gone through isle unto paphos, they found a certain sorcere, a false prophet, a jew, whose name was Bar-Jesus.

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Mathew 27 v 16-17: And they had then notable prisoner called Barrabas. Therefore when were gatyhere togwther, Pilate said unto them, who will ye that I release unto you? Barabas, or Jesus which is called Christ?

Note: Other ancient manuscript have Jesus Barabas

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Mathew 2 v 13 – 16: Now when they had departed. Behold an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, rise take the child and his mother and flee to Egypt and remain there till I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child and destroy him. and he rose and took the child and his mother by night and departed for Egypt and remained there until the death of Herod.

Note: following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt where they stayed until after Herod’s death in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughtered all male infants two years old and under. There were 28 generations from David to Jesus and the annunciation occurred after Mary had conceinved Jesus.

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Luke 2 v 22- 40: ( a long story, I cant type)

Note: following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remained in the area of Jerusalem for the presentation (about 40 days) and then returned to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There was no slaughter of the infants. There were 43 generations in all and the annunciation occurred before conception.

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Colossians 4 v 10-11: Aristechyus, my fellow prisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sister’s son to Barnabas (touching whom ye received commandments; if he come unot you, receive him).And Jesus, which is called Justus…

Thank you.

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as willy wonka says, arguement is a wasteof time

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Jesus story is not anywhere close to zeus and jesus is not a myth. There are tonnes of historical evidence supporting the fact.

However, arguing with you is simply pointless.

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@ REVEREND

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU FOR COMPARING HIS SON TO ZEUS, THE GREEK gOD.

IF U SEE JESUS, U NO GO FIT STAND, BECAUSE HE IS FULL OF GLORY.

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Jesus was really Zeus!

The resemblance is uncanny and clear to all!

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Zeus and his wife are portrayed in the painting below.

Could that be where the Myth of Jesus and Mary Magdeline came from?

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ONLY and I repeat ONLY IDOITS deny that someone called Jesus Christ once existed. Even Historians and Scientist dont go down that path becuz there is more than overwhelming evidence saying he did.

We all know who the Jesus is in the bible, lets all non-christians stop this crap. Just like we know who the mohammed is. I wont bring up a thread titled who is mohammed and instead on focusing on his life. I'll tell you there is one mohammed in my street.

Jesus is the english name, greek name Yeshua. Even at this you make no sense.

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The real Jesus Christ lives at 26 Acacia Avenue, Croydon, UK

You can call him for miracles on +44 207 345 6547

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@jeshua

But i thought you said you have tried Christianity before, this things you mix up are things that you can ask from just kids in my church back home and they will give you answers. It is clear you tried to decieve me that you were a Christian-you know nothing about what you were saying only trying to raise objections to monistic ideas you don't know anything about. But Jesus Christ is ineluctable, you meet him alive to idea make a decision or meet Him when you die at the judgement sit to recieve his Judgement. I still love you though and I know you lied in the other thread now about "Islams guarantee of salvation" but the Scripture says, all liars shall have their part in hell, only christ Jesus can help you now. It is your game, play your cards well, it will determine you destiny.

Honestly, I weep for your soul. So you thought that I have been deceiving you about my reversion, well if you dont believe, thats your problem and not mine. How many of your doctrines have I laid to rest? My reversion is justifiable. On salvation in Islam, a liar will think that everybody is a liar.

You know babs very well when it comes to debate or argument, i believe in proofs, evidences, facts or whatever. By God's grace, the religious thread or debate will resume soon and all your allegations or claims will be sorted out, trust me for that.

Good day.

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@Reverend

OYO = On Your Own

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If he did ever live at all then Jesus wasnt his real name.

There was no letter "J" until the 15th century. This form of His name came from the Greeks. The Greeks loved to hear their gods name, "Zeus in their names and cities. Hence, you can usually tell a Greek influence when a word ends in "us." Ephesus, Tarsus, Paulus, on and on. The Greeks give the Hebrew Yeshua a Greek name meaning "Hail to Zeus"

So you are all talking about Zeus in reality!

HAIL ZEUS!

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Jesus simply means - God SAves.

Anybody can answer JESUS

but have u seen anybody answer JESUS CHRIST?

JESUS CHRIST WAS HIS EARTHLY NAME.

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what is your problem? That they remained in Jerusalem or that they left jerusalem?

from babs787

Luke 1 from verse 26

The Birth of Jesus Foretold

    26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. 28The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you."

    29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."

    34"How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?"

    35The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[c] the Son of God. 36Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. 37For nothing is impossible with God."

    38"I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.

Mary Visits Elizabeth

    39At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, 40where she entered Zechariah's home and greeted Elizabeth. 41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!"

Mary's Song

    46And Mary said:

   "My soul glorifies the Lord

       47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

    48for he has been mindful

      of the humble state of his servant.

   From now on all generations will call me blessed,

       49for the Mighty One has done great things for me—

      holy is his name.

    50His mercy extends to those who fear him,

      from generation to generation.

    51He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;

      he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.

    52He has brought down rulers from their thrones

      but has lifted up the humble.

    53He has filled the hungry with good things

      but has sent the rich away empty.

    54He has helped his servant Israel,

      remembering to be merciful

    55to Abraham and his descendants forever,

      even as he said to our fathers."

    56Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home.

POINT OF CORRECTION. THE ANNUNCIATION DID NOT COME AFTER THE PREGNANCY as you are trying to make people believe. or are you reading in "Arabic" again?

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@nossycheek,

If you have been reading your bible, you would have read that he left Bethlehem for Jerusalem and not Egypt.

I am putting a stop to it cos hands of friendship has been extended to me, so you are free to say whatever you feel like after my post

Peace.

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@babs787

Luke 2:22 says  "When the time of their purification according to the Law of Moses had been completed, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord "

that is straight from the bible. Now what is confusing you? Jesus was taken to Jerusalem, which means he was not in Jerusalem.

Try to comprehend what you are reading and not just reading in order to ridicule christians.

matt 1:18

18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

You merely quoted out of context. The annunciation did not in anyway come after the pregnancy, far from that The annunciation

Luke 3:23

23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Assuming you truly want to know, there is only one Jesus Christ; that mentioned in the above verses.

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I think the new thead link is temporarily disabled or something,I wanted to start a peace making thread with babs and other Muslims.

Babs take me up on that and start a thread where we can shake hands and decide to live peaceably.

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The Bible said the anti Christ would deceive many,meaning he'll have some degree of intelligence.

If this is the antiChrist,no one will be deceived.

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Babs 787,

r u sure u're not the anti-christ referred to in the bible.

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@davidylan

Honestly, you are too hilarious. Are you trying to cover up the story? Your sister posted rejoinder on Luke and I replied but rather than read post before replying you never, but posted your rejoinder without thinking. If you care to know, Jesus of Luke did not leave for Egypt and no record of Killings. Please read Luke 2 v 22- 40 yourself and get back at me.

For your understand, this is the summary of the story in luke, so compare to mathew's

Note: following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remained in the area of Jerusalem for the presentation (about 40 days) and then returned to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There was no slaughter of the infants. There were 43 generations in all and the annunciation occurred before conception.

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You indeed are a comedy of errors.

Mathew 2: 13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

   14When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt

How do you come up with the lie that Jesus was carried into Jerusalem and not Egypt when the bible repeated same more than 3 times?

So since no killing of infants was recorded in the story of Luke we should safely assume that Mathew's account of same was not true? Can we extrapolate the same disingenous illogic to say since no miracles of mohammed are recorded anywhere in the quran that he therefore did not perform any miracles if indeed he is alleged to have performed any?

Matthew 2

   1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,

Clearly, Jesus was born in bethlehem and Herod specifically indicated that the children to be killed where from Bethlehem and environs.

Now where was John the Baptist all these while siince he too was just about 1 when Jesus was born?

Luke 1: 39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;

40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth

Clearly we are told that John was born in Juda and NOT bethlehem. So if Herod had all children of Bethlehem under 2 killed, we know John could not have been one of them as he was not living in that city.

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@pilgrim_1,

That is the simple reason why I asked him the question: which one of these characters is the Jesus mentioned and revered in therir Qu'ran.

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@topic,

I'm sort of amused at the disingenousness of this topic. Does the original poster pretend that he doesn't actually know which of the persons with the name 'Jesus' was referred to as the CHRIST?

When a chap has a mindset pre-programmed against JESUS CHRIST and what He represents, it is no wonder that we read amusing topics like this.

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@babyosis

You own you mouth, you may use it to eat it.

Now which is the real Jesus out of the two

Mathew 2 v 13 – 16: Now when they had departed. Behold an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, rise take the child and his mother and flee to Egypt and remain there till I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child and destroy him. and he rose and took the child and his mother by night and departed for Egypt and remained there until the death of Herod.

Note: following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt where they stayed until after Herod’s death in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughtered all male infants two years old and under. There were 28 generations from David to Jesus and the annunciation occurred after Mary had conceinved Jesus.

Luke 2 v 22- 40: ( a long story, I can't type)

Note: following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remained in the area of Jerusalem for the presentation (about 40 days) and then returned to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There was no slaughter of the infants. There were 43 generations in all and the annunciation occurred before conception.

So sort it out, one left for Egypt while the other didnt.

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How about the millions of Jesus Rodriguez and Perez in the Spanish world,very soon[b] "ba ba black sheep" [/b] will tell us they were the offsprings of Christ.

I gave up on his intelligence long long ago.

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To say the truth do not intend to convince you about the reality of the man Jesus Christ because i percieve that you have by yourself chosen to deny his existence.

The prefis 'Bar-' as in Bar Timaus, bar Jonah of bar Jesus is greek for 'Son of'. So while Bar Jonah refers to the son of Jonah, Barjesus refers to the son of Jesus(not the Christ-the annointed one).

Just as there still are today, there were a lot of Jesuses at the time but there was only one who was from above, annointed with the Holy ghost and with power; who died for sin, was buried and was declared to be the son of God by the resurrection from the dead.

This one is sitted at the right hand of God, far above all principality and power and has with him raised up many sons to sit with him right there; among whom i am counted.

Glory to God!

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They did not REMAIN in the area of JERUSALEM. They were outside of it, and only came for the ceremony prescribed:

Luke 2:22 - "And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord."

If they had REMAINED in the area of JERUSALEM, what is your explanation to "they brought him TO Jerusalem"??

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with the time you spend reading the bible,i wonder if you still have time to read your "holy" quran,but its good sa,cos very soon you will be giving TESTIMONIES in a Church,dont say God forbid,that,s your only way to eternal life.

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Good advice, I think he is closer to Aro than the rest.

Exactly what I think

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@babs787,

I like TayoD response to you, it is the best. It is the same method of teaching that Jesus used in teaching and confouding the pharisees. That approach of teaching is called "Agg'ada" in Hebrew, which is a moral approach that will stimulate you to think.

So therefore I repeat TayoD's question for you: "Which one of these jesus is the one spoken of in your Qu'ran?"

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No offtopic posts please

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@Davidylan

Address his questions if you can, bro. Not a very good idea to refer to issues on another thread here, especially since not everyone will be bothered to read up on them.

If you ask me, I do not think he wants any answers to his questions so I will not even bother to try to answer them.

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@babs787

there are many renowned psychiatric hospitals in Nigeria that i know of. Yaba in Lagos, Aro in Abeokuta and Uselu in Benin. Which one is closest to you? You should check one of them out.

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@babs787,

You just don't get it do you? May I ask you one question as well. Which one of these jesus is the one spoken of in your Qu'ran?

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