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Which One Of The Prophets In History Did Not Submit To God, Hence Not A Muslim?

The 64 Trillion Dollar question that baffles everyone, the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims

and even the others which the three above consider to be disbelievers, as pagans or atheists, is this;

If the Supreme being, Who created and or put into action all creating forces, chose a way to be

harmonious with, as in reverence/worship of Him, what shall we call it? Mankind, in the past, did not, or

in the present have not and future will chose the same way to relate to the this Supreme being. Is there

a correct way, or are we all wrong? But surely all of us can not be correct because we have

so many ways, each almost completely, but in a greater part disagreeing with the others. If we

factor out the Atheists, for their lack of focus on an LIVING Creator, and also factor out the pagans

for their representation of this Creator by idols, which they themselves create with their own

abilities to create or fashion out. What we have remaining are the three which in various ways accept

that there is a Supreme Creator and Sustainer, which they call God. The differences are ways that they

worship and relate to this God in their belief, and in worship. Therefore Starting from Adam, to the

this present time, looking at all the prophets, did any one of them came with the totality in the

definition of Spirituality that complements  any of one these different religions? For example, irrespective

of the ethnicity of Moses and or Jesus, did each came and preached the religion as their separate

followers practice the religion today? Did either of these prophet bring the religion and practice along

side with their followers, exactly, as we see those who claim to be practicing it do today.

Please present your argument to support your claim. Also, when you argue for or against a point of

view, please try not to stray from the topic, because you may necessarily but unintentionally drag others along from

this very important matter, to a less important topic, and all over the place presentation. Please consider using all

the proper resources in your possession, as long as you are honest in your presentation. We want to

start from Adam through all the prophets in history of Mankind, including Noah, Ibrahim, Musa, Isa son

of Mariam and lastly Muhammad son of Abdullah (May God's peace be upon everyone of them. Amin).

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Is only in CHRISTIANITY that GOD changes,they expect GOD to change his message on his his creations submitting to him,how can he?he can only send messengers to people to still obey the real message and not just changing it,Allah(SWT) LORD OF THE WORLDS never changes

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The bible is so full of lies that you begin to wonder if JESUS was JOSEPH in the lineage given in mattew and luke,and about the shepherds watching flock at night during winter,big lie and could that be true,how can the shepherds survive the winter,Alhamdulilahi Allah(SWT)proved them wrong that he was born in the midsummer and not winter.also most of these PROPHETS OF GOD except MOSES were born in muslims countries we know today e.g Abraham - IRAQ,JESUS-PALESTINE

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@abuzola; this is my problem with you. Cant you disagree without been abusive?

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Pastor AIO you are nothing but an empty vessel fake pastor, , your say on the religion forum shows that you are an agent of satan.

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@Pastor AIO,

Thank you for taking the time to outline your misgivings, especially as regards your perception of KAG's style and summations in those discourses. However, I fail to see how all what you have argued here should critically justify placing him and tpia on the same level (or rather, in the same box) with the said Abuzola. Now, of course, I have been here for just a short time and do not know all the details undergirding your conclusions. . but reason would have us believe that even from what you quoted, KAG actually tried discussing issues. That he may not have leaned towards your happy conclusions should not mean therefore that he is 'obnoxious'. I may not have come across Abuzola even trying to ever discuss anything - and we understand that discussions are key to the health and sustainability of any forum.

During discussions, people may make right or wrong, or even surprisingly remarkable, statements - as long as they are discussing. We often engage them and argue our points out with them until. . I, for one, have learnt never to assume my views are even close to being absolutely correct - they are the way I understand issues from what is available to me - unless, out of a queer peculiarity I just want to lie my way out of a hole I senselessly dug for myself! And no, I won't do that.

All the same, I might contain why you feel the way you do; although I don't have much in your reply to come to the same conclusions as in yours. However, I should not fail to mention my thanks for posting those links. . they opened my eyes to the fact that some philosophical discussions have already been on NL.

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@PatorAIO: « #54 on: Yesterday at 01:30:25 PM »

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Yes, yes, yes -  O yes there is!!!  Plenty of basis.  One such basis would be the compulsion to be obnoxious.  Again, demonstrating idiocy in the sense of counterproductive.  Erupting utterances without so much as an argument to back it up.  It doesn't matter whether the argument is sound or flawed.  We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but first we need to get to the point where they can support their statements with arguments, any arguments. 

Consider this:

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-347209.0.html#msg4861390

This is typical!  Even if I was going to bother talking to her, I very much doubt that she can present an argument or line of reasoning that led her to make such a statement.  While I admit that Abuzola is a eeny weeny bit more obnoxious than she is, you've got to admit that they are cut from the same cloth. 

. . . And as for KAG! I wrote that one off a long time ago.  Again he's one that just opens his mouth to yarn dust without providing any supporting arguments.  What I find particularly irritating is that he does it so authoritatively and using such grammar and words that would suggest that he actually knew what he was talking about.  That works in Nigeria, I know, but it doesn't work on me.  Very early on when I first came to Nairaland I made my thoughts clear on that kind of hi4lootin' nonsense.

It's all that learning Jargons to spew out in the hope that it'll make you sound like you know what you're talking about that irks me so much.  When this is compounded by the fact the the person in question seems incapable of construct a simple argument to support his claims then I am forced to just dismiss that person.  I hate dismissing anyone like that, but I find that I have to sometimes to avoid headache.

I wrote the above in response to this:

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=137750.msg2311242#msg2311242

I then made the mistake of trying to discuss further with him to find out the premise for statements.  You can look up the thread to see how it progressed.  Sorry, it didn't progress, it went round in circles.  You need to understand that all this while I was actually taking the guy seriously. my bad!

For instance I tried to take him up on what he said above:It's not religious because it's not a philosophy that pertains to the worship of a particular deity. Although Heraclitus was vague about what he meant by the logos, it can be deciphered from the extracts that are available, etc, that the logos wasn't a being of substance. It was a part of Heraclitus's cosmology, and a staple element in his philosophy, but it isn't quite the same thing as the Christian conception of the word, nor the modern understanding of what logos entails.

I asked:

Then came the confessions, slowly:

He talks forcefully whether or not it's justified.  That's just the way he is with his thoughts. 

He is no expert on the Tao but he is expert enough to use it to make a forceful point.

He checked google and found vindication for his idiocy, yet he failed to present his findings on the forums for us to study.

And as for what he means by the Logos is not a being?

"Oh, geez, that's a tough one. May we save that for another thread?"

It was at this point that my radar picked up something dodgy.  But I persevered with him.  From there it was a struggle to stop the thread from going down all sorts of red herring paths.  He came up with a definition of being eventually that involved what he called 'Awareness' which however was different from consciousness.  We went round and round.  I showed him texts that suggested that traditional people didn't see any difficulty with seeing 'concepts' and 'beings' as one without incongruity, and perhaps they had a sophistication he lacked. 

I don't think he liked that.  It must have pricked his ego.

Moi:Quote

I would like to suggest that these traditional people were perhaps a bit more sophisticated than you are theologically and the problems lies in your inability to keep up.

Lui:Somehow I doubt that.

He even claimed that the fact that he could post responses on the internet was proof of his consciousness, at which point I knew I was dealing with a blockhead. 

You need to read the whole thread for yourself to really get the picture.

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=137750.msg2312719#msg2312719

No, this guy definately gives abuzola a run for his money.

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I believe what I actually said here was idiotic, not unfortunate. It wasn't a personal attack but rather an attack on the quality of his contributions. I believe I have every right to give such an opinion. Perhaps I should back it up with reasons why I say so, though. So here we go: Idiotic would include posting irrelevant koranic verses on thread that have nothing to do with Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_(person)

I believe the wikidefinition fits Abuzola's contributions like a glove to a hand. If the moderator has any beef with my use of the word then he should take it up with OUP, wikipedia, or any of the authorities of the English language.

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No, no and no - I'm sorry to have to reply to that line. It is not appropriate to equate Abu+zola with either tpia or KAG. There is just no basis to do so.

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Listen, Mr Man, I don't know what I could done or said to make you think that you can engage me in dialogue. Whatever it is I apologize and revoke it. I have no interest in discussing anything with you. This is going to be, if not the first then, hopefully the last time. And I will make it short and quick.

And before you claim that I'm attacking your islam, I'm not. I talk to muslims frequently about their religion both here and in the real world. This is not about islam, this is about you so take it personally. I find your contributions absolutely idiotic. I'd rather not engage you on any level at all. I put you in the same box as I put tpia and KAG. Please don't respond to this. Thank you and bye bye.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dont you get tired abusing people?

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Pastor AIO, all am saying is, YOU ARE UTTERING GIBBERISH

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Who dey follow you talk?

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Pastor A O, what the hell are you saying ?

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Good day to you Olabowale, would you say that you are a muslim? I don't think that in your life you have followed absolutely every injunction in the koran. Since you have not submitted fully to Allah then it follows that you are not a muslim.

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@nezan,what about you that called Allah an arabian idol raised up from the KAABAH by the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)pls mind ur own business and remove ur scale so you can see clearly to remove others from others eyes

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@Playboy08: « #50 on: Today at 12:15:23 PM »

What did Muhammad say? Is he the Author of the Quran? Did he say that Quran is his speech or rather the Speech of his Creator?

Now you will find your answer in the above, if you open your inner eye, instead of discarding religion/way of worshipping God altogether making you therefore an atheist, or a confirmed disbeliever!

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@Jairzinho: « #45 on: January 04, 2008, 09:58 AM »

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hi, members, i think the issue of religion should be left with those who imported them into this country. reason most time,i'm a bit confused; imagine, the bible stated that ''who so ever did not believe that jesus christ is the saviour, has been condemed' and the quran made us to understand that Allah will not accept any religion than islam. now, which  do we believe? or are we serving a different GOD?

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@op, Good thread with wisdom, exquisite ! Keep it up

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Olabowale, if you say that the definition of a muslim is one who submits to will of God then i have no problem with that, but the question is, can a ''muslim'' still be called a muslim even if he doesn't believe in mohammed?

Jesus was born a Jew, He was infact called rabbi, Christianity is not a religion as its a term used to refer to the disciples at antioch which means ''like Christ'', the church is a gathering of Christians(those who are like Christ or those who follow Christ)

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Let me get you staright

Allah revealed stuff to different prophets before ,during and after Jesus,but they all kind of distorted it,then came along th holy prophet Mohammed(SAW) and he corrected all the previous mistakes?

Is this what you're saying sir?

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@Jairzinho: There lies your ignorance. Telling your Creator that He should have revealed something different, other than Joseph, for example from the Old Testament and other than Jesus from the New Testament. If this were to have been the case, would not the like of you states that the NEW REVELATION has nothing to show any thread or association to the Old Revelations, which it came to correct? How do you correct something when your Material is not relevant to what you are intending to correct. How could Qur'an have been able to correct the lies heaved up on the personality of Jesus, except the true quality and personality was presented? How do we know that there is Only One God, except that the concept of three godheads/son, father,spirit, is all destroyed to nothingness?

I know am incoherent, but I know the truth when I read it, when I hear it and my SOUL and HEART have no disagreement with it!

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Jairzinho was part of the Brazillian 1970 World Cup team(with Rivelino,Pele etc)

Honestly most of what you've written in a bit incoherent(forgive me),but I'll advise we both wait for 'judgement' day.

Judaism is the religion of the Jews.

There's no such thing as the religion of Mary, Catholics are Christians(followers of Jesus Christ)

How can the Koran 'correct' the Bible,Allah should have revealed the truth & new things to the Holy Prophet Mohammed(SAW),not correct what was already written,you people underestimate the power of Allah o !

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Is the religion of Virgin Mary different from her son's religion? Or neither one of them practice any religion? For sure, we see verses in the Qur'an that commands Mary to bow down with those who bow. Without wanting to go to the Tafsir of that verse, we know that she was commanded in the way of Islam. And she obliged and obeyed the command. Zachariah also was commanded to make praising Supplications to Allah, in the period of after Salatul Subh and Asri. This time, he was already told that Yahya would be born at his old age, in the old age and wrinkled form that he and his wife were.

His sign was that he would be unable to speak for three days, so he only motion, by signing to talk to people. But during the two period of after Salatul Subh and Asri, Allah will return his voice to him, so that he can make the audible tesbir: Alhamdulillah, Shukrillah. These are 2 Miracles here. The first is the lost of voice and the second is that the voice will come back just for a particular function/commitment, as long as it pleased the Owner of the Throne Supreme.

We will not go to the birth of Yahya to these old believing people. The example was already in place with Ibrahim and Sarah, from the old time!

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@jairzinho: Your name sounds Portuguese/Brazilian, Sao Tome; Tuda ben?

Which Chapter of the Old Testament of the Bible was copied/was re-written in Arabic to form a chunk of the (Qur'an)? Please present them and place then side by side with the relevant parts of the Qur'an for your own education. Qur'an came to correct the 'Bible!' Qur'an does it by accurately presenting 100% truth of any matter, where by the Bible does not present the same 100%. Qur'an negates what lies and embellishments/exaggerations the Bible presents as sets of facts. Qur'an is against evil deeds and defines them with the appropriate punishments, where as the Bible begs the questions. Qur'an declares that the present Bible is corrupted/a watered down document of what was Originally revealed to the Prophets. Qur'an declares that any other form of religion that one comes with, except Islam will be rejected on the day of Judgement. And the person will be punished in the fire of Hell. Suratul Fatiha declares that Jews have incurred the wrath of God and Christians have gone astray! Where then does Qur'an give precedence to your TODAY'S BIBLE? You do not have authentic revelation anymore, Mr. Jew or Mr. Christian!

Do not deceive yourself, neither Judaism nor Christianity is a Monotheistic religion, in the pure form. They remain just that only in name. The mere fact that your Bible is not 100% pure prior to Muhammad's receiving the revelation of Qur'an is enough that you truly do not worship the Creator and Revealer of those Books; The Taurah to Moses, the Sabuur to David and Injiil to Jesus son of Mary!

Just because Jesus was born to a Jewish family does not mean that he was not a Muslim! I was born to a Yoruba family, even though I am an ordinary man and there is no prophet/messenger after Muhammad, yet am still a Muslim! Your ethnicity should not determine your religion. Their being Muslims was the primary definition of their being Prophets of Allah. They could not acll anyone to worship anyone else, including themselves. Their sole responsibility of their missions is Calling People to worship Allah Alone and no one else! Each was given complete command, and Jesus was from among these Prophets/Messengers to call their people to the worship of One God and never to associate any partnership with that God!

Your calling Jesus Christ, son of Virgin Mary your lord and savior proves that you are worshipping him. He was a person born of a woman, just like you. Hence, you have set up partnership with your statement which is false that you worship God alone. For sure you worship God and then you worship Jesus. You are a multigod worshipper and that is Idolatry!

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Just state facts & don't lie, ok?

You are communicating with very intelligent people.

Your holy quran confirmed Jesus was born of a virgin (3:47, 19:20),so whats your problem?

After Jesus,she had other children & DID NOT DIE A VIRGIN.

Get your facts right.

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@pilgrim.1

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Allah in the Quran that happens to be the last book tells us that Jesus was a muslim and if you think that he is not, kindly provide any verse from the bible, showing that he wasnt and supply verse that shows that he was a christian

Thanks

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For sure Jesus was not a Christian. And he did not instruct anyone to start any religion after he had left. Definitely he did not ask anybody to start Christianity or name a religion after him. With that in mind, all that is Christianity is without the John Hancock of Jesus son of Mary. And by the way why are you all still calling this woman a Virgin after you have said that she had two sons, brothers of Jesus for Joseph the capenter? If she remained a virgin after having children from a sexual relation witha man, then thats a bigger miracle than the birth of Jesus without father.

We see how convoluted the mindset of those who still call her a virgin is? Maybe their Bible still denotes her as a virgin. No wonder we all doubt the authenticity of the Bible and called it lost. We all agree that it is corrupted and watered down from its original. It is now a mere shadow of its undiluted and pure originally revealed Books.

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@pilgrim

Please if Jesus wasnt a muslim, what religion did he practised and try to back same with verses from your bible.

Thanks

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@Cgift: Why don't you just show us the quality of Jesus and show us the definition of

Muslim, who is truly obedient to God Almighty. Compare the two side by side. Lets hear

your conclusion about how Jesus, is not a prophet of God and how he did not fall under

the definition of Muslim, a practitioner of Islam?

Did Jesus submit his will to the Will of God? If the answer is yes, then he was a Muslim!

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@lafile: Read my entry after what your associates wrote. I only gave a fraction of

what makes a a Muslim out of prophet Adam. Again not all Muslims are prophet,

but all Prophets are Muslims. If you disagree with me, present your argument, in the

light of the definitions of Muslim/Islam and Prophet/Messenger. To help you to a better

understanding: All Messengers are Prophets, but not all Prophets are messengers.

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@Oluchia: From the rank of Muslims, you have Prophets. Not all Muslims are prophets.

However all Prophets are Muslims. Just to name some notable prophets who you must be

familiar with; Prophet Jesus, a Muslim, Prophet Adam, a Muslim, Prophet Noah, a Muslim,

Prophet Ibrahim, a Muslim, Prophet Moses, a Muslim, etc, etc. Have enough?

Madame, if you believe that any of the above person, did not obey Allah God Almighty

the Creator, therefore fails out of who is Muslim, then, pick your person and give me your

argument. Then I will pick that person with you and I will argue that he was a Muslim,

submitting his will totally/completely, solely, in obedience without waivering to his Creator.

Madame, Over to you. Call your instigator(s), those who see things the way you see them to

back you up. InshaAllah, I will argue and GOD Allah the Almighty will give me victory over all

of you.

I beg. Oya. Biko.

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WHERE are Adam's "prophecies" in the quran? Answer this fundamental question first before repeating the islamic mantra that has no basis.

1. Forgiveness is NOT a tradition. It is a virtue.

2. while the muslims can only rely on vain "hope" of Allah's mercy, Christians KNOW that God IS ABLE TO FORGIVE THOSE WHO TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS.

I am not a slave BUT a son. Keep on slaving away. No matter how hard a slave works, he has no part in his master's inheritance.

This "quality" can as well refer to just about any sango worshipper who decides to ask sango for forgiveness in the hope that sango has any fibre of mercy.

If this is the "quality" that determines prophethood in islam then just about any ragtag muslim can call himself a prophet.

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Adam was a Muslim. And he died as a Muslim. He was the first of mankind to sin and he was the

first to ask for forgiveness. All Muslims follow the tradition of seeking forgiveness, with hope that

God is Merciful and will accept repentance and therefore forgives His Slave Servants who is not

too proud to seek His Mercy. And not too timid that he sets up intercessor between himself and

the Creator. That quality in Adam, is a quality of a prophet, a Muslim.

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When muslims get cornered and their deceit exposed, they go down the weather-beaten path of adhominems.

Olabowale asks this question: Show by demonstrating the quality of the Prophet, that they are not Muslims

We need however pose this question; by what criteria do we measure the qualities of the biblical prophets? There are NO explicit accounts of these men either in the quran or hadith and muslims tell us the bible is corrupted so HOW are we to demonstrate the qualities of the prophets?

Olabowale says: Proof to me that there is a prophet who was not a Muslim, because he did not Submit his Will/obedience to God Almighty?

I ask sir, which "prophets"? The ones that are in the corrupt bible? If you can show us their revelations in the quran then maybe your question will sound a lot more plausible.

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@Cgift: Aburo, I love you as best as one man can love another. But I dislike your

immaturity. You have no finesse. One can imagine your behaviour around your peers.

Am actually advicing you to grow up. The question is very direct. If you have a good

sense, choose a prophet and argue for him or not being a prophet, based on his

attitude on the commandments of God. Can you do that?

To say, Olorun, Olodumare, Oluwa, Eleda are different is simply disingenuous and will

not deserve my attention. Se bi gende. Oya di de.

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Why feeling for me? I asked u a question and you have not answered and u are feeling. Will you still call me a muslim if I say I believe in Allah but do not believe in Mohammad? Afterall, it was not Mohammad that introduced Allah to mankind, Allah had been in existence before MO was born.

Pls answer my question? Again, here it is: Will you still call me a muslim if I say I believe in Allah but do not believe in Mohammad?

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Ok. I know what you are driving at. A muslim is someone who submits to God (not Allah) abi? Okay. Can i still be a muslim if I dont believe in mohammad the slave of Allah? Please answer.

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See how weak you sound to yourself? Is as if you said, Ikorodu is not a

proper Ijebu. Show by demonstrating the quality of the Prophet, that they are

not Muslims, duh!

Even the Christian Arabs, call your Jehovah, Allah in their Bible. You are not

sounding reasonable enough. I may just let you continue in your game of

languages.

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ok. ok. ok.

Jesus never submitted to Allah! So he was not a muslim. chi kena! Jesus submitted to Jehovah God. , and dont try to prove to me that Allah is Jehovah God. You know that wont fly with me.

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@Cgift: You never even attempted to do a tight rope walk, even on the

edge of the topic!! Proof to me that there is a prophet who was not a

Muslim, because he did not Submit his Will/obedience to God Almighty?

This is simple enough. I see many tap dancing around the topic. But you

came out of the gate break dancing! Thats not good. First, there is no

doubt that Muhammad (as), was a Muslim.

Even as bad as Muslims are, today, each claims that they follow him, as

the last link in the chain of prophethood.

Aburo. Listen very carefully. Proof to me that there is a prophet before

Muhammad who did not have to obey God/ and did not obey God, hence

he was out of what Muslim in Islam is supposed to be.

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Olabowale,

Like david said, i would have expected the revlations from all of these proohets to be very explicit in the quran. If you call somep one a prophet, where are his prophecies? Were are the prophecies fo adam you call a prophet? Where are the prophecies of esus the son of Mary? Where are they in the quran? I think those questions are very pertinent.

If you do not have their prophecies recorded in the quran, then they can not b called prophets by any standard at least in Islam. In Christianity on the other hand, prophets have revelations they brought from Jehovah God (not Allah) to his people and they are clarly written down without ambiguity. You call esus a prophet, where are his prophecies?

You call Moses a prophet, whre are his records? You need to humble supply them.

If however, you have a recourse to the bible to show their prophecies and study their actions then you must NEVER DERIDE the bible under any circumstances.

Back to you topic of picking prophets and discussing where they went worng. I will pick Mohammad.

Mohammad went obviously went wrong by killing innocent men travelling in a caravan. You know the story very well. This he did especially in a month that would have been considered a month of peace even by the arabs! If he unustifiedly killed someone, could we say he pleased God or your Allah? I think not so.

Mohammad was established as a sinner as we have numerous verses in the quran that testifies to this. He was several times. That means he was offending Allah. Allah even said he was forgiven Mohammad's numerous sins. ( I know you popl will say he was an ordinary human.) My question is this, why dont you just accept the [b]sinless [/b]and [b]living [/b]Jesus as even corroboratd by your quran?

If Allah is the same Jehovah God that christians serve (I know he is not), then Mohammad must have displeased God so severly cos, his lifestyle was not definately a defiant variance from Jesus whom also came from 'the same Allah source'. Why would Allah send two very contradictory personalities? I hope i am still within the scope of discussion?

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The idea of the topic is that an individual should pick a prophet of his chosen

and give us, in clear picture, how this prophet did not Submit totally and alone

to Almighty God. It is the descriptions of the non submissiveness that is needed

here. From my statement of the topic heading, it can be seen that I Olabowale

has declared that all prophets of God, starting from Adam and ending up with

Muhammad are all Muslims. Jesus is one of these illustrious people, creations.

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