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The koran say in sura 2.62 & 5.69 that all Jews and Christians will go to Heaven and in sura 19.71 it says that all muslims will go to Hell.

Who will explain these verses objectively to me, Jews/Christians going to heaven and muslims going to hell?

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@Noetic

I have never asked for too much

Kindly post the verses here and we move on please. You may lift the verses from there and we treat.

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@Noetic

Read again please:

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That reminds me of one expression I read somewhere; stop expecting to be taken to the sky by the kite. I mean to say; stop expecting an answer from that noetic2, for he has none.

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@Noetic

Let me have verses to your claims.

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@Noetic: What to do, man? What to do? Afterall, it is true; There is one sleek29 who worships 3 gods!

Abi?

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must u reveal u biblical ignorance on every thread?

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The Bible told us to commit any prophet to test before we accept his prophetic calling, mohammed fails all the basic tests.

And you choose to believe in Allah and his three daughters?

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Jazakallahu anakun Khair, Abuzola. I also got your email response, yesterday. I appreciate it and may Allah bless you by your resonse.

@Nezan: Ahadith comes from Muhammad (AS), alone. And ahadith is the explanation of Quranic verse. Before you explain anything to anyone, you must hear what the statement is that you need to give explanation on. And the one who needs explanation from you, must tell you about the need for explanation, or at least give you the impression that the matter is murky, and not clear, needing clarification.

A good example, daily salah did not give rakah for each in the Quran. You find that in ahadith! Abuzola gave you simple and direct expananation, that a new born baby with wisdom can understand!

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Let me give you an instance: Quran 9:80 Allah is telling the muslim whether the Prophet or we pray for a dead unbeliever 70 times He (Allah) will not forgive them' in Quran 9:84 Allah strictly forbid the prayer for the dead unbeliever. Hope you understand. The Quran was not reveal in a day, it took 23 years, Allah's command is step by step, for example the drinking of alcohol, Allah did not forbid it but instead said 'do not come near salat when you consume it, later it was completely Forbidden likewise temporary marriage which was first encourage then later forbidden. Thus is the law of Allah suitable for mankind

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Was the hadeeth an after thought? because the koranic verse didnot specify any time limit.

was the abrogation carried out after mohammed died?

What is the difference between Christians today and during mohammed's time?

Do Allah changes his mind? does he makes mistakes? why abrogate what he had said at all? is he not all-knowing?

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BTW, what makes you think this hadith is reliable?

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What is it you do not understand.

Quran 2:62

'verily, those who believe and those who are jews and christians and sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve'

Quran 5:69

'surely, those who believe and those who are the jews and the sabians and the christians- whosoever believed in Allah and the last day and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear neither shall they grieve'

Note: This verses were referring to their respective time and not after the coming of Muhammad, the christians of nowadays are excluded from it

Page 156- Tafsir Al Tabari: Ibn Abbas said Quran 5:69 and 2:62 should not be misinterpreted by the reader, the provision of this verses were abrogated by the verse 3:85. And after the coming of Prophet Muhammad no other religion except Islam will be accepted from anyone, Muhammad was sent to all mankind, moses to jews and sabians, while jesus to Israel,

Quran 19:70-72

'Then verily, We know best those who are most worthy of being burnt therein. There is not one of you but will pass over it (hell). This is with your Lord has Decree which must be accomplished. Then We shall save those who used to fear Allah and were dutiful to Him. And We shall leave the wrongdoers therein humbled to their knees in Hell'

hadith volume 9 number 532 of sahih bukhari 'there will be a bridge and the muslims will pass through it saved'

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If you are a prophet, then you can complain. When you get to judgement day, complain and see how quick decision will be made on you heading to the firelake! Awon okunrin to njo wewe.

The muslims have no problems with it, and there you are complaining, when you are devoid of all morality and spiritual understanding. Example, there is one sleek29. But sleek29 has 3 gods; god the son (1), god the holy spirit (2), and god the father (3)!

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