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Who/What is god? Given the prevalence of the notion of god in the Abrahamic sense of the word, who or what really is this character?

Those who claim to be in communion with god, can they give a definition of this character that is logical, consistent and lacking in contradiction. How does one come to obtain information about god, and is it possible to know god's wishes?

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The atheist does not say "There is no God, but he says, I know not what you mean by God. I am without the idea of God; the word 'God' is to me a sound conveying no clear and distinct affirmation." - Charles Bradlaugh

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He's the Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent, Alpha and Omega

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the creator of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen

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God is the almighty beign, who is supreme, and who created and made all natural laws!!!!

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In this sense God allowed the Heart of Pharaoh to be HARDENED because it was already hard.

This is your opinion (which could be right or wrong). Tell me in the bible where it was stated that his heart was already hard. I never read it anywhere in the bible that his heart was hard, but it was repeated countless time that God hardened his heart.

No that is not what God thought. The practice of Helping the other gods as Baal and Ashteroth on their feet was not the way to help The God of heaven that created you.

God Does not need your reverence if it diminishes his glory.

No that is not what God thought: You were not God, how do you what was on his mind? Let us limit ourself to what happened in the bible and not what you think God thought.

The last time there was bird flu in Nigeria, what happened? ALL the birds were killed and the people concerned were compensated. What would Our 'infinitely benevolent, beneficent, true and holy' God have asked his people to do? Dress it well and export them to Niger Republic, Ghana etc and sell them to those people. What would be your reaction if flu-infected birds are exported here from Britain and one of your people bought it and died? Talk true jare.

Dont know where that one concern God.

Look at this: "Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself; thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it, or thou mayest sell it unto an alien." [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font](Deut. 14:21).

Do you now know where it concerns God. An animal that died by itself has some disesea. Consider the case of bird Flu. If it were in old biblical times, the Isrealites would have been expected to sell it to their neigbours.

It is only a 'just' God that will visit the sins of father on the children even up to the tenth generation. Do you know what happened to Ackan and ALL his family? Please read Jos. 7, especially 24-26.

Ackan's family knew he stole it and they Hid the Sin. The bible says they shall not prosper. You can not Judge God.  Where is that written in the bible? You have to differentiate between what you thought and was is in the bible. Nobody care conclusively state that his family members knew about it. Since it was not stated, it is only reasonable to assume that they were not in the know. We assume somebody to be innocent until proved otherwise.

The destruction was Ordered by God because He was Fed up of sin.

Do you realise that he did not even send a single prophet to them? To them, they don't know of any God, except the ones they are used to. If they have been preached to, If God had appeared to their fore-fathers as He did to Istreal's fore-fathers, they would have served him well

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He is the "I am that I am", the one who owns all the power, the beginning and the end, The one who was, who is and who will forever be, the alpha and the omega, the almighty God, Rose of sharon , , ti ba ni kin ka re oluwa , ile a su ile a moooooooooo,

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To OLAADEGBU: infinitely benevolent? He is INFINITELY MALEVOLENT. Can a benevolent God harden somebody's (his creation's) heart so that he can 'useless' glory? Please take time and read the following: Ex 4:21, 7:3&4, 13&14,912, 10:1,20, 27, 11:1,10, 14:4,18.

In this sense God allowed the Heart of Pharaoh to be HARDENED because it was already hard. USELESS GLORY ? hmmm how horrible to fall in the hand of the almighty. Harden not your heart to the word of the lord.

Can u recall when the ark was being taken somewhere. The bull or the whatever animals that were carrying the ark. One of the animals was about to fall. Somebody, out of concern grabbed the ark so that it won't fall. What happened? THE ANGER OF THE LORD GOD WAS KINDLED AGAINST HIM. The guy did it out of reference. Was that anger not misplaced. Put yourself in that man's position joo.

No that is not what God thought. The practice of Helping the other gods as Baal and Ashteroth on their feet was not the way to help The God of heaven that created you.

God Does not need your reverence if it diminishes his glory.

Let's say you were at home with your parents. Somehow the TV stand slipped and you ran there so that the thing will not kaput. What did your dad do? He ANGER WAS KINDLED against you and he started beating you mercilessly. What will be in your mind?

You are comparing mortal with Infinitesimal God? Know you not that Woe Betides whosoever strive with his maker.

The last time there was bird flu in Nigeria, what happened? ALL the birds were killed and the people concerned were compensated. What would Our 'infinitely benevolent, beneficent, true and holy' God have asked his people to do? Dress it well and export them to Niger Republic, Ghana etc and sell them to those people. What would be your reaction if flu-infected birds are exported here from Britain and one of your people bought it and died? Talk true jare.

Dont know where that one concern God

It is only a 'just' God that will visit the sins of father on the children even up to the tenth generation. Do you know what happened to Ackan and ALL his family? Please read Jos. 7, especially 24-26.

Ackan's family knew he stole it and they Hid the Sin. The bible says they shall not prosper. You can not Judge God.

This is 1Sam 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and UTTERLY DESTROY ALL HAVE, AND SPARE THEM NOT; BUT SLAY BOTH MAN AND WOMAN, INFANT AND SUCKLING, OX AND SHEEP, CAMEL AND Bottom. Charles Taylor and the Butcher of Belgrade did not do 1/100th of that and they faced International Tribunal. Haba. What will a mere infant and suckling do to deserve that treatment. Even prisoners of war are not treated in that way. 'infinitely perfect ' indeed. Saul was punished for being kind, for saving a fellow human being.

The destruction was Ordered by God because He was Fed up of sin. Now look at the same Isreal He ( God) Killed thousand because David Numbered the people. Now that is God he is no respecter of Person.

Do you know that God has evil spirit? 1Sam 16:14 says But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, an evil spirit from God troubled him.

Yes God allows the Religious LYING FALSE SPIRIT TO DEAL WITH ANY ANOINTED BACKSLIDEN MAN OF GOD

Is God really reasonable in his judgment? I don't think so. Look at Samuel and Saul. There was war between Istreal and the Philistine. There were 30,000 chariots and 6,000 horsemen and the infantry (as the sand which is on the sea shore for multitude) as the bible puts it. When the men of Isteal saw this, they were frightened and most of them ran away. Saul was the king and Commander-in-Chief. So the lot fell on him. You know, in that kind of situation, there would be a lot of advice and conjectures. They waited for Samuel for SEVEN good days, yet he did not turn up to come and offer burnt sacrifice. Yet Saul did not go to war without the burnt offering. You know then, there was no GSM service or ordinary telex. He still wanted God's favour. After waiting for seven good days and almost being deserted, he decided to do what a reasonable person would have done. He offered the sacrifice. As soon as he finished, the 'alakori' came in. He did not even deem it fit to apologise for not coming on time. What was his comment and what was God's judgment?

The Lord is reasonable but note he does not reason as men do.

Saul had entered into false doctrine (disobedience) and He continued in it. The priest is higher than the King. but today we are king and Priest blended in One.

Somebody was born blind. When Jesus healed the man, Jesus was asked: who sinned?. It coudn't be the man since he was born blind. Jesus said it was God that did that so that his glory can be shown. A man's whole life (he was 40 years old then) was wasted so that God's glory can be shown. Nawa oh. Gowon was less than 40 when he became the HOS, one of his governors then was only 25 years. Donald Duke was in his 30s. Joseph became the Prime Minister in Egypt at the age of 30. David became king at the age of 30 and even Jesus was 33 years old when he completed his ministry. Elumelu was in his early 30s when he became head of a major bank.

God wants to heal your wounds he created us not anywhere imperfect but satan made imperfection because he is the father of Falsehood.

What do you think of a God who will waste his creation's whole life so that he can be glorified. If you ask me, I don't think much of that God. Peace!

A thousand years is as a day in the eyes of the Almighty. He lives in Infinity but comes to us in Space and time.

It is a blessing to Worship the Everlasting God

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God, the Father has other names, titles and offices in the trinity.  He is The;

Almighty God  Gen. 17:1; Rev. 19:15.

Buckler  Psa.18:2; 91:4.

Creator Isa.40:28.

Deliverer Psa.18:2; 91:3.

Everlasting God Gen 21:33.

Father   1Pet.1:2; 2Jn.3

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Ex.3:6; 2Sam.23:1.

Horn of Salvation  Psa.18:2.

I AM THAT I AM  Ex.3:13-15

JAH (Jehovah)  Psa.68:4.

Jehovah-Elohim, Adonai-Jehovah, Jehova-Jireh, Jehova-Nissi, Jehovah-Ropheka Ex15:26; Jehovah-Shalom  Judg.6:24.  Jehovah-Tsikeenu Jer.23:6;33:16.  Jehova-Mekaddishkem Ex.31:13; Lev.20:8; 21:8; 22:9,16,32; Ezek. 20:12.  Jehova-Saboath 1Sam.1:3; Jehova-Shammah Ezek. 48:35; Jehova-Elyon Psa.7:17;47:2; 97:9; Jehova-Rohi Psa.23:1; Jehova-Hoseenu Psa.95:6; Jehova-Eloheenu Psa.99:5,8,9; Jehova-Eloheka Ex.20:2,5,7; Jehova-Elohay Zech. 14:5.

King of kings and Lord of lords 1Tim.6:15-16

Living and True God 1Thess.1:9

Mighty God Gen.49:24

Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent God Rev.19:6

Refuge Psa.91:2

Strength Psa.18:2

True God Jer.10:10;John 17:3.

Uncorruptible God Rom.1:23

Only Wise God 1Tim.1:17

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@MisterMan,

If you have already jumped to the conclusion that you arrived at about God hence your mind is made up then I guess that you are not enquiring for answers.  But if you want my advise on this I guess there is little or nothing that I can offer.

Nevertheless, there are at least some facts that are non-negotiable

1. That God created you.  You owe your existence to God, If He decides to withdraw the breath of air that you breath you know that is the end.

2. That you are a spirit, have a soul and live in a body.

3. That everyone is going to die sooner or latter.  This is when your spirit and soul is separated from your body.

4. That after death is judgment, and that God is going to judge you based on what you have done with Jesus who has been judged on our behalf.

There is nothing you can do to change these facts of life and death and its attended consequences.  The decisions you make here on earth will determine where you will spend your eternity, heaven or hell.   The decision to either become a new man in Christ or not will determine your destiny.

As to your questions, you may not be able to understand the scriptures from the perspective that you approach it from.  Your spirit has to be awakened to discern the Word of God.  In 1 Cor. 2:14-16 states "But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated." 15But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him]. 16For who has known or understood the mind (the counsels and purposes) of the Lord so as to guide and instruct Him and give Him knowledge? But we have the mind of Christ (the Messiah) and do hold the thoughts (feelings and purposes) of His heart."

There are 2 races of people on earth and you fall into one.  These are the Homo-Sapiens and the Homo-Novus; In other words, of Adam or of the last Adam.  What I mean is that all Homo-Sapiens on earth today came from Adam and Eve and they are natural but spiritually dead.  "Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man, and death as the result of sin, so death spread to all men, [no one being able to stop it or to escape its power] because all men sinned."

Those who are new creatures in Christ who is the Last Adam are those that are called the Homo-Novus.  2Cor.5:17 "Therefore if any person is [ingrafted] in Christ (the Messiah) he is a new creation (a new creature altogether); the old [previous moral and spiritual condition] has passed away. Behold, the fresh and new has come!"

When you turn from your sin and confessing them to God and forsaking them, then turning to God by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ that has paid for our sins, we would have passed from death to life, from the first Adam to Christ and therefore become a new man.  When you have received Christ as your Lord and Saviour He will send His Spirit to guide you into all truth regarding His Word and give you understanding as you read, study, meditate and memorize the word of God.  You will not only receive the head knowledge but the understanding, comprehension and revelation knowledge of His Word.

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To OLAADEGBU: infinitely benevolent? He is INFINITELY MALEVOLENT. Can a benevolent God harden somebody's (his creation's) heart so that he can 'useless' glory? Pls take time and read the following: Ex 4:21, 7:3&4, 13&14,912, 10:1,20, 27, 11:1,10, 14:4,18.

Can u recall when the ark was being taken somewhere. The bull or the whatever animals that were carrying the ark. One of the animals was about to fall. Somebody, out of concern grabbed the ark so that it won't fall. What happened? THE ANGER OF THE LORD GOD WAS KINDLED AGAINST HIM. The guy did it out of reference. Was that anger not misplaced. Put yourself in that man's position joo.

Let's say you were at home with your parents. Somehow the TV stand slipped and you ran there so that the thing will not  kaput. What did your dad do? He ANGER WAS KINDLED against you and he started beating you mercilessly. What will be in your mind?

The last time there was bird flu in Nigeria, what happened? ALL the birds were killed and the people concerned were compensated. What would Our 'infinitely benevolent, beneficent, true and holy' God have asked his people to do? Dress it well and export them to Niger Republic, Ghana etc and sell them to those people. What would be your reaction if flu-infected birds are exported here from Britain and one of your people bought it and died? Talk true jare.

It is only a 'just' God that will visit the sins of father on the children even up to the tenth generation. Do you know what happened to Ackan and ALL his family? Pls read Jos. 7, especially 24-26.

This is 1Sam 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and UTTERLY DESTROY ALL HAVE, AND SPARE THEM NOT; BUT SLAY BOTH MAN AND WOMAN, INFANT AND SUCKLING, OX AND SHEEP, CAMEL AND Bottom. Charles Taylor and the Butcher of Belgrade did not do 1/100th of that and they faced International Tribunal. Haba. What will a mere infant and suckling do to deserve that treatment. Even prisoners of war are not treated in that way. 'infinitely perfect ' indeed. Saul was punished for being kind, for saving a fellow human being.

Do you know that God has evil spirit? 1Sam 16:14 says But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, an evil spirit from God troubled him.

Is God really reasonable in his judgment? I don't think so. Look at Samuel and Saul. There was war between Istreal and the Philistine. There were 30,000  chariots and 6,000 horsemen and the infantry (as the sand which is on the sea shore for multitude) as the bible puts it. When the men of Isteal saw this, they were frightened and most of them ran away. Saul was the king and Commander-in-Chief. So the lot fell on him. You know, in that kind of situation, there would be a lot of advice and conjectures. They waited for Samuel for SEVEN good days, yet he did not turn up to come and offer burnt sacrifice. Yet Saul did not go to war without the burnt offering. You know then, there was no GSM service or ordinary telex. He still wanted God's favour. After waiting for seven good days and almost being deserted, he decided to do what a reasonable person would have done. He offered the sacrifice. As soon as he finished, the 'alakori' came in. He did not even deem it fit to apologise for not coming on time. What was his comment and what was God's judgment?

Somebody was born blind. When Jesus healed the man, Jesus was asked: who sinned?. It coudn't be the man since he was born blind. Jesus said it was God that did that so that his glory can be shown. A man's whole life (he was 40 yrs old then) was wasted so that God's glory can be shown. Nawa oh. Gowon was less than 40 when he became the HOS, one of his governors then was only 25 years. Donald Duke was in his 30s. Joseph became the Prime Minister in Egypt at the age of 30. David became king at the age of 30 and even Jesus was 33 years old when he completed his ministry. Elumelu was in his early 30s when he became head of a major bank.

What do you think of a God who will waste his creation's whole life so that he can be glorified. If you ask me, I don't think much of that God. Peace!

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Yahweh's greatness is infinite, His majesty is unique, His independence is absolute , His sovereignty is undisputed and indisputable, He is the Everpresent I AM THAT I AM, The mighty Strong One Elohim, The El-shadai All sufficient God, The covenant keeping never failing Jehovah, The only wise God, The Almighty God and The Eternal God.   He is beautiful beyond description, too marvelous for words, too wonderful for comprehension, like nothing ever seen or heard, who can grasps the depths of His wisdom? who can fathom the depths of His Love?, He is the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent God.  To Him be all the glory and majesty, honour and victory forever and ever.  Amen.

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The ONLY wise One. The ALL knowing, Algbada ina, Oba ton je EMI NI, Gbani Gbani tan saba, Eledumare, Oba kiki Ogo

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WHAT A NICE QUOTE BY ADAM CLARKE.

I THINK OUR BRAINS ARE VERY SMALL TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHO GOD IS.

I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT EVEN THE ANGELS CANNOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PERSON OF GOD.

THAT IS WHY WE CALL HIM

"THE ALMIGHTY: OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT."

HALLELUJAH!

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"God is the eternal, independent, and self-existed Being whose purposes and actions spring from Himself. He is absolute in dominion; the most pure, the most mighty and powerful, infinitely benevolent, beneficent, true and holy, the Creator and upholder of all things; infinitely perfect and eternally self-sufficient; illimitable in His immensity and indescribable in His essence; known fully only to Himself. He is infinite in wisdom; He cannot err or be deceived and from His infinite goodness, can do nothing but what is eternally just, and right and kind".

- Adam Clarke

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Lord in three persons

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GOD IS THE ONE THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE

READING RIGHT NOW. FOR HIS MERCIES YOU ARE NOT CONSUMED. THAT IS GOD--THE

CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE,THE UNCHANGABLE CHANGER. I BOW FOR GOD O.

WITHOUT HIM NOTHING WAS CREATED INCLUDING YOU.

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God is a Supreme Being. The Father of the fathers

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Hi all,

Can I ask a question from those of you who says there is no God? Especially to Idinrete who says the writers of the bible know no science etc.

I myself have been thinking of this for some time now. You see I did a bit of science before I went into accounting (at least I had an A2 in physics in WASCE O level.)

I look at the universe or the solar system as science have taught us with all the many bodies; sun, moon, the stars, earth, mars, venus, pluto et al; and I hope you know that there are many millions of them.

Science makes us know that all these bodies are in motion either rotating or revolving or both. All these bodies have been in these motions for years, many, many years.

I try to imagine that if these bodies are left to randomly move as they do on their own, there is no way that they would remain in such perfect motions and positions that they are now and have ever maintained.

My question is do you really believe there is no 'influence' on the organised motion(s) of all these bodies in the solar system that they have at no time crashed into each other?

I know science made several attempts at explaining with several 'laws' such as Newton's laws of motion; Law of universal gravitaion etc, etc. Yes but think beyond these 'laws' and look at the very basics.

Methinks the fine order we have in the solar system is the biggest proof we have of God's existence because if there was no 'influence' from him, the whole planet/solar system would have crashed.

P.s. Please don't even raise the issue of the so-called "Big-Bang-Theory".

To me, the big band was what happened in Genesis when God created the heavens and the earth!!!

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God IS IAM THAT IAM. THE BEGINING AND THE END

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People love the painting drawn by the 15th Century artist Michelangelo that is displayed in the Sistine Chapel in Rome. Where did this concept come from, drawing the Gods, Neteru on walls for all to see and tell a story with it? It came from Egypt. (Not the Egypt you see today)

That’s right, hieroglyphics of Egypt—it came from us. The painting is called The Creation, and portrays a so-called God pointing a finger to create Adam. So again, God is being depicted as a physical being. The Christians personify God in their image to form the many statues that don the many crosses in Christianity. Muslims symbolically present God in a black stone in the corner of a cube-shaped building in Mecca. Yet, when Egipt says it (God can be a physical being) and uses the Bible and Koran to back it up—he’s called a blasphemer.

Egipt teaches that a God is anything in control. The arrow tip that takes the life is God over death. The sperm and ovum meeting in procreation in life is God in life. The nourishment in food for health is God of health. The bacterium in sickness is God of sickness. ANYTHING IN CONTROL IS A GOD.

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Allah (swt ), says

And I created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship me. I seek not any provision from them, nor do I ask that they should feed Me. Verily, Allah is the All-provider, Owner of Power - Most Strong" (Qur'an 51:56)

Allah (swt ), says:

" And verily, We have sent among every community a Messenger [proclaiming]: "Worship Allah [Alone] and avoid the Taaghoot .1 Then of them were some whom Allah guided, and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied [the truth]" (Qur'an 16:36)

Allah (swt ), says:

" And your Rabb has decreed that you worship none but Him, and that you be dutiful to your parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age in your life, say not to them a word of disrespect [uff!], nor shout at them, but address them in terms of honour. And lower unto them the wing of submission and humility through mercy, and say: "My Rabb! Bestow on them Your Mercy as they did bring me up when I was a child."" (Qur'an 17:23-24)

Allah (swt ), says:

" Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinfolk, orphans, the poor, the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer and those [slaves] whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not love those who are proud and boastful" (Qur'an 4:36)

Allah (swt ), says:

" Say [oh, Muhammad!]: "Come, I will recite what your Rabb has prohibited for you: Join not anything in worship with him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty - We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to shameful sin [adultery, fornication etc.], whether committed openly or in secret, and kill not anyone whom Allah has forbidden except for a just cause [in accordance with Islamic Law]. This has He commanded you that you may understand" (Qur'an 6:151)

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Did he tell you to take him as your personal lord and savior?

Can I have the verses where he said you should take him for that and where he also said that one would perish for not taking him as personal lord and savior?

Thanks

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HE is the I AM that I AM, THE EVELASTING ROCK OF AGES, THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE AUTHOR and FINISHER OF OUR SOULS, all you need to do is to seek our LORD Jesus CHRIST first and he will reveal HIMSELF to you, and you will be glad to know HIM. for there is no salvation in any other than the name of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST and the moment you confess HIM as your LORD and personal saviour you will be free.

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The Bible is a nice book. It teaches—to some extent—morality and guidance. But it was not revealed by a Deity. It was written by inspired men and maybe women, like all other books. These men and women based their values on the understanding of their time. Going through the Bible, one is able to capture a perfect evolutionary process in theology. We begin with Yahweh, a tribalistic God, who loves the Hebrews and hates other people. This God later evolves to become the Father of Jesus Christ who surprisingly loves all people. How strange!

In reality, God never evolved. It was human understanding of the nature of God that evolved, hence the transformation from the vengeful and unpleasant Yahweh to the loving and kind God the Father. The Bible is a compilation of Jewish/Christian understanding of a Deity over centuries. Thus, while it was okay to stone someone to death for adultery in the Old Testament, the New Testament is filled with nothing but love, love, love. Same God? Then why such different laws?

I could go on and on but let me end with this: in what language were the Gospels written? Some scholars think in Aramaic (the language of Jesus). But where are the original Aramaic texts? The fact is, it is becoming increasingly accepted that the Gospels were originally written in Greek! Yes Greek, and the oldest texts we have are all in Greek. Not a single Aramaic codex is known. So, how could fishermen who probably barely knew how to read and write Aramaic, learn not only how to write in Greek but also how to state: “In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God and the Logos was God.”

Sounds rather Aristotelian doesn’t it? It sure does, because the Gospels are most likely nothing but personified forms of mystical stories that existed long before they were written. Replace Mithras, Horus or Krishna with Jesus. Modify the theme a bit and change the setting from India or Egypt to Palestine, and you have a perfect story. Of course, the story has to be set to real history, so you choose as the time when Palestine was under Roman occupation. Once in a while you mess up so much with history, like asserting that Herod the Great existed at the same time as Caesar Augustus (according to Matthew’s Gospel) because your story isn’t based on facts but on ancient myths.

Let those who are interested study history and other religions and find things out for themselves.I do not subscribe to dogmatic theology based on a “Word of God”.

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Say He his Allah

It is a known fact that every language has one or more terms that are used in reference to God and sometimes to lesser deities. This is not the case with Allah. Allah is the personal name of the One true God. Nothing else can be called Allah. The term has no plural or gender. This shows its uniqueness when compared with the word god which can be made plural, gods, or feminine, goddess. It is interesting to notice that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and a sister language of Arabic.

The One true God is a reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a Muslim, Allah is the Almighty, Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing and nothing is comparable to Him. The Prophet Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries about Allah; the answer came directly from God Himself in the form of a short chapter of the Quran, which is considered the essence of the unity or the motto of monotheism. This is chapter 112 which reads:

"In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.

Say (O Muhammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone."

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pilgrim.1,

Don't be hard on me. I didn't write those verses. The're written by those inspired by God Himself !!

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Just like you, I was trying to reach God through the Bible. I've done some research and the following are some of the results to help guide you,

In the Bible, words having to do with killing significantly outnumber words having to do with love.

GE 3:1-7, 22-24 God allows Adam and Eve to be deceived by the Serpent (the craftiest of all of God's wild creatures). They eat of the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil," thereby incurring death for themselves and all of mankind for ever after. God prevents them from regaining eternal life, by placing a guard around the "Tree of Eternal Life." (Note: God could have done the same for the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" in the first place and would thereby have prevented the Fall of man, the necessity for Salvation, the Crucifixion of Jesus, etc.)

GE 4:2-8 God's arbitrary preference of Abel's offering to that of Cain's provokes Cain to commit the first biblically recorded murder and kill his brother Abel.

GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.

GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.

GE 19:26 God personally sees to it that Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt (for having looked behind her while fleeing the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah).

GE 38:9 ", whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his Fluid on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked , , so the Lord put him to death."

EX 2:12 Moses murders an Egyptian.

EX 7:1, 14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7 The purpose of the devastation that God brings to the Egyptians is as follows:

to show that he is Lord;

to show that there is none like him in all the earth;

to show his great power;

to cause his name to be declared throughout the earth;

to give the Israelites something to talk about with their children;

to show that he makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt.

EX 9:22-25 A plague of hail from the Lord strikes down everything in the fields of Egypt both man and beast except in Goshen where the Israelites reside.

EX 12:29 The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt.

EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people.

EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly.

EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.

EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men.

LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword."

LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children."

LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.

LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39)

NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague.

NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses.

NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.

NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious.

NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.

NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people.

NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites.

NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites.

NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og ", and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left , "

NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun , "

NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly."

NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord.

NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children.

NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and ", every woman who has known man , " (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)

NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.

DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.

DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.

DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and shown "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.

DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males , As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."

DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."

DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.

DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you."

JS 1:1-9, 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to follow.

JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho men, women, and children with the edge of the sword.

JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing.

JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.

JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites.

JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah.

JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites.

JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish.

JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites.

JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites.

JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites.

JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land , ; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.)

JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, , utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed , "

JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."

JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.

JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.

JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his thumbs and big toes.

JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites Jerusalem.

JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath.

JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.

JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad.

JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the ground.

JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to Gideon.

JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel.

JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.

JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people in the city.

JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through, and he died."

JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved daughter, his only child, according to a vow he has made with the Lord.

JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a man and causes him to slay thirty men.

JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an Bottom.

JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's eyes.

JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other men and women.

JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish.

JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men beat on the door of an old man's house demanding that he turn over to them a male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and beasts and all that they found," and set their towns on fire.

JG 21:10-12 ", Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones, every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred young virgins whom they bring back for their own use.

1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers.

1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for having stolen the Ark.

1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's abode.)

1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines.

1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the Ammonites.

1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines.

1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.

1SA 15:3, 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and Bottom , ' And Saul , utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."

1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord , "

1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands."

1SA 18:27 David murders 200 Philistines, then cuts off their foreskins.

1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.

2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.

2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.

2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take his head to David.

2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed, their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies hanged by the pool at Hebron.

2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded him, and smote the Philistines , "

2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren throughout her life.

2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's murderous conquests.)

2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the horses.

2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.

2SA 8:6, 14 "The Lord gave victory to David wherever he went."

2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made the rest slaves.

2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.

2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.

2SA 12:1, 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead for the sin that David has committed.

2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, Molests her, then hates her.

2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.

2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim.

2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.

2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and leave him ", wallowing in his own blood in the highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him, stopped."

2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel that kills 70,000 men.

1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.

1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.

1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.

1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating bread and drinking water in a place where the Lord had previously told him not to. This is in spite of the fact that the man had subsequently been lied to by a prophet who told the man that an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright to eat and drink there.

1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians.

2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and consumes fifty men.

2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God.

2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with leprosy.

2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.

2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."

2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.

2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.

2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands remain.

2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then sends the heads to their father.

2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.

2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he had wiped them out, according to the word of the Lord , "

2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the Baal worshippers.

2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.

2KI 14:5, 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites.

2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for not having removed the "high places."

2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant.

2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.

1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes."

2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.

2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.

PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones.

PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains hands for war and fingers for battle.

IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their , wives will be ravished."

IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children."

IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers."

IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become drunk on their own blood as with wine.

JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth."

LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off than those who die of famine; racked with hunger, they waste away for lack of food. , pitiful women have cooked their own children, who became their food , "

EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: ", they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the people lie slain among their idols around their altars, on every high hill and on all the mountaintops, under every spreading tree and every leafy oak , "

EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: ", slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women , "

EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of their first-born children.

EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall go against all flesh.

EZ 23:25, 47 God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those who were whores.

EZ 23:34 "You shall , pluck out your hair, and tear your bosoms."

HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."

MI 3:2-3 ", who pluck off their skin , , and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron."

MT 3:12, 8:12, 10:21, 13:30, 42, 22:13, 24:51, 25:30, LK 13:28, JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth.

MT 10:21 ", the brother shall deliver up his brother to death, and the father his child, , children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death."

MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own family."

MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of] three cities who were not sufficiently impressed with his great works.

AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though not permanently).

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@geegee

God really cares for you. He says you are fearfully and wonderfully made. He loves you. Please open your heart to Him and just call on the name of Jesus with a sincere heart and he will help you and heal you of all the hurt and pain.

The bible is really deep. There is alot to know. God promises to heal and deliver us through our circumstances not out of our circumstances. He also says his ways are not our ways and his thoughts are not our thoughts so please do not be discouraged or disappointed when he seems quiet. He is not. He is fighting battles for you behind the closet.

Be strong and i will be praying for you.

God bless

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@geegee:

Allah the Almighty is always ready to accept repentance from His creations!

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Just freely accept Jesus Christ has your personal Lord and saviour.He has a great purpose 4ur life.The best of ur life is yet to come,In Christ u will never regret anything,you will always smiling and have a positive mind set,you will be the best among others and u will have a bless and fulilled future.

Sister dont think about what you have done that was wrong or ur pain and sickness instead give ur heart totally to Christ and watch and see how great u will become.the bible said Prov 3v5 Trust in the lord with all ur heart and depend not unto ur own understanding,in all your way acknowlegde Him and He will direct ur path.

God bless you.

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My dear just close your eyes and say God almighty i know u are dere and u are real, reveal urself 2 me cuz i want 2 knw u and my dear he will so reveal himself 2u and embrace u, welcome 2 d peace of knowing God

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I don't think the book is actually free. I also feel that it is best to support book authors by actually purchasing copies of their books. But the review is ok to post.

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dawkins the 'darwinism' specialist did a book called God delusion, so that the deluded will believe his own delusion. No crime in buying and reading but in believing a deluded = delusion

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Here you can download and listen to The God Delusion audiobook by Richard Dawkins.

http://www.kickasstorrents.com/the-god-delusion-unabridged-by-richard-dawkins-iloveatheism-t89528.html

It's free to download and even if you find it goes against your deeply held religious beliefs it is a very interesting eye opener to the origins and phsycology of the belief in god/s.

There is a reason why it was an international best seller. Human beings are finally entering an age of reason, enquiry, and understanding.

Here you can read some of the reviews on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0618918248/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275582943&sr=8-1

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[b]GOD [/b]is an imaginable supernatural being

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the OP said the below

Jenwitemi responded like:

And mudley did exactly the bolded

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God(s) are man-made creations in ancient times used to explain things not understood, like how the world came into being. Pity that a bunch of people in this modern day and age are still subjected to such stone aged beliefs

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How can you possibly expect anybody to tell you that? The best you can hope for is each individual's submission of who God is from their very limited POV or perspective. So expect myriads of different opinions.

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Christianity does not do this. God acts as He pleases, and Christians do not question Him or try to limit Him.

But God IS NOT cloud, pillar of smoke, gentle breeze etc. . HE IS NOT A THING. Clear enough??

My opinion is that BOTH are correct. God cannot be seen as He is. So, He TAKES THE FORM OF THINGS in order to be seen sometimes. God takes the form of Jesus (a man like us) in order to teach us and to redeem us and show us the way.

BTW, a medieval philospher/theologian, while thinking about the person of Jesus being God-incarnate, exhaustively discussed the two questions:

-> Is God man?

-> Is man God?

But his discussion is beyond the scope of Nairaland.

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@Imhotep:

Imhotep, it seems to me then, that no one on earth has ever seen Him. I know that a verse exist in the Bible that declares this special condition of God. Many verses verses do the same in the AlQur'an about Allah, the name of God in Arabic. In this respect we agree. Even the Atheist and Agnostics agree with us. It is this very reason of them not being able to capture or verify His being within the 5 senses that they concluded that He does not exist. So far w are alright.

But here is the difference, while the Muslims believe that He is never seen at anything by anyone n earth, the Bible turns around and make claims that He has been seen in forms; in a unique form when Moses saw His neck. In other settings as just ordinary human when He was in the company of His Angel to visit Abrahim to announce the birth of Isaac. The angels proceeded to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. He started the fight as Himself and ended it as Angel all in one single wrestle with Jacob. Then of course the famous one, Jesus being Him, as well as being His son while he is being His prophet, all the while being a child to Mary/son of man.

If these two camps of ideas are 180 degrees to each other, I ask you then which one is correct? Why is there not a disclaimer about the incorrect one? We do not have the same condition in the AlQur'an or for that matter Hadith that explains the verses of this Book. But when ever we have something that changes, it is always in progression to purity of faith. The earlier condition is always abrogated by a newer condition. The newer condition is always better, or similar in a way, but never a denial of the earlier existed condition.

But in this case with the Bible, the fact that the verse says no one has ever seen God, simply means that it completely opposes and denies every and all possibilities of sighting before, during and after this verse was stated as a matter of fact in the Bible.

Please explain. I permits you to use all means of instruments/tools of exegesis. But it must apply to both camps of sighting and unsighting in the same form and strength. Please apply "Sola Scriptura." I will like to see how these two camps of ideas come togethr to mean the same thing.

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God is the maker of heaven and earth. the one who was who is and will be forever.the first and the last.his is the same yesterday,today and forever.the saviour of world. the giver of life.

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@Imhotep: I have been waiting for your answer or response to Negro_Ntns, who thought the world of you. He seems to be leaning in the direction of the camp that you have great intelligence, and your love for God is superb. Please don't fail/disappoint him in this regard. Step up to the plate and explain yourself.

I thought Negro_Ntns, was very generous to you, since he did not truly challenge you to explain your deficient or almost negative thought about God, while he was over enhancing the aspect of you that gave a hint of love and reverence. Please explain yourself.

@Huxley: When you said Identity of God is what you are looking for, please expalin yourself. This is so because I would like to clearly know the parameter you are working with: you need a name, a characteristic? What do you need exactly? Are you looking for what is unique about God, that no other entity has? Please make yourself clear as can be.

There is no reason providing you with an answer and then you move the post a little bit, later. In all of these, what is it that you are intending to achieve, or its just a matter of simple no beneficial dialogue? I hope this is not your avenue to let off steam? I hope Mrs, the African sister is taking good care of you? I also hope you are enjoying fatherhood? Atheist or Agnotist needs what is expected that "normal" human adult male needs.

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Imhotep,

Good day to you. For someone who is well read, I find it hard to comprehend that you will say God is darkness in our five senses. I do not want to believe you actually meant it in the way I perceive it.

A part of me suggests that you idolize God and revere Him in His Eminence so vast that no sense (touch, smell, earing, taste, sight) can fully comprehend. Hence the use of that metaphor in your statement. If this were the case, I would agree with you.

Another part of me wonders if you actually meant that our senses are void of God's presence. If as I suspect, this is where you are leading, then in its literal form and intent I cannot disagree with you more.

I do not want to pre-empt your conclusion on this statement so please clarify the meaning.

Thanks,

Negro.

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Thanks for the comments, my brother. I, for one, stand on the shoulders of many many giants. I try as much as possible to imbibe their thoughts, digest them, and extend them in my own experience.

Let me also add that God is darkness to our five senses. This is probably why the mystics (who have had wonderful, direct experiences of God), all speak of a self-abnegation that their path to God entailed.

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Huxley, Imhotep,

As I move around I am beginning to see that you guys bring arguments that provoke and incite the mind to reach into the depth of its sphere and reason for justifiable response, or as I am fond to say "search for the truth inherent in the soul". I give you guys credit. I hope your arguments are genuine intellectual responses emanating from within your own conscience and not word lift from intellectual and literary works produced by other people.

To understand God you must understand basic fundamental principles of creation - time, distance, space and reality.

Each one of those principles is in turn a complement of the other and they are all tied to one word - RELATIVITY.

Relativity is the existence upon which physicality is given limitations. When aspects are no longer bound to the limitations of relativity then they become METAPHYSICS - the absence of time, distance, space and reality. It is not a vacuum as some people might suggest.

God is all around us in manifest (consciousness) and He is also around us in spirit (unconsciousness). There is a self propagating drive in each of us and that drive is geared towards identifying, proclaiming and manifesting the TRUTH wherever and whenever we encounter and interact with the environment (people, trees, animals, elements, etc) There comes a time when the TRUTH shall be so saturated and has accumulated enough density that the individual can completely separate himself/herself from bodily appetittes and attain super naturality. That is becomes like GOD. Not GOD but like GOD.

In my opinion, GOD is the absolute force without which that self propagating drive would not have existed in the first place and the cosmic energy of life force would not at all have been a known phenomenon.

I can go on and expand on this thought but then it becomes an unending discussion on the search for truth and life purpose. We live in a physical world of relativities, somethings must end some time. So with that I end this one.

I will talk about this again sometime. I do have a feedback to give you Huxley. Concentrate your efforts. You are doing a fantastic job but your energies with these discussions are scatterred. I commented on your topic on Exegetical Analysis. Within that topic alone you could have accomplished all these searches that you have broken into different topics. Keep one topic and build on it, who knows you mighthave enough contributions to write a book. Be sure though that you make it clear that people contribute their genuine thoughts and if it happens that they are making reference, to quote the source. You don't want to write a book, make millions and end up loosing it all and in addition, owe money if your earnings did not fully satisfy the lawsuit. lol.

Take Care.

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God says in the Q.ur'an thus: And I did not create Jinn and man, except that they serve Me,,

The nature of God, no man can encompass it. No one who had ever walked on the surface of this earth. No even His Angels, who are spiritual beings.

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This is actually a great question. The sense of identity was created and is part of the human psychological make up. It is an effect of the brain. It is possible for it to abate. For instance there are times when you might 'lose yourself' in a moment, like if you are engrossed in a task of some sort.

That is one's sense of identity and self awareness, however such identity that another might form about you is a totally different matter.

Someone might point to my physical body and say that is me. But is it? Someone might list a whole heap of characteristics and say that is me. But would it be? Does anyone really get anyone else, or anything else for that matter. Are we all not limited by our perspectives? As soon as we experience something or someone we immediately mold the experience into a concept. Preconceptions too affect the way in which we experience things and conceptualise the experience.

So this question does not just apply to God but to everything that we might experience. Who is God? Who or what is anything?

Any description is a distinguishing thing. it distinguishes him from other agents that would be described differently.

To describe him as the creator of the universe is to distinguish him from other agents it would seem. Yet since everything has it's source and root from creation, actually what that does is it makes him the main Agent in every activities that occurs in the universe. In other words indistinguishable from every other agent. He is the original agent behind the agent. The source and the essence of all beings.

Seeing how hard it is to define and distinguish God from any other aspect of the universe I think . . . . hmmmm what do I think?

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if you want to know the identity of God Read the history of moses in median in Mountain of Sinai when God called Him

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