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Who Really Rules The World, Jehovah God or Satan??

Many people would answer the above question with a single word—God. But significantly, nowhere does the Bible say that either Jesus Christ or his Father are the real rulers of this world. On the contrary, Jesus said: "The ruler of this world will be cast out." And he added: "The ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me."—John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11.

There is no need to guess at the matter, for the Bible clearly shows that an intelligent, unseen person has been controlling both men and nations. It says: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." And the Bible identifies him, saying: "The one called Devil and Satan . . . is misleading the entire inhabited earth."—1 John 5:19; Revelation 12:9.

Let's consider a few points which shows that satan is the ruler of this world.

Point one, In the Bible book of Matthew 4:8-10, Satan the devil showed Jesus all the glories of the world and promised to give it to Jesus if he worship him. Think about this. would Satan had offered Jesus "all the kingdoms of the world" if the world is not his? No, he would not.

Point two, in the Bible book of 2Corinthians 4:4, we were told that the "god" of this system of this has blinded the mind of unbelievers so that they might not know Jehovah

Point three, Remember that Satan had been an angel created by God, but he became envious of God's position. He challenged God's rightful rulership. To this end he used a serpent as a mouthpiece to deceive the first woman, Eve, and was thus able to get her and her husband, Adam, to do his bidding rather than obey God. (Genesis 3:1-6; 2 Corinthians 11:3) He also claimed he could turn all of Adam and Eve's yet unborn offspring away from God. So God allowed time for Satan to try to prove his claim, but Satan has not succeeded.—Job 1:6-12; 2:1-10. With him ruling the world today are some of the angels he decieved from heaven down to the vicinity of the earth.

Do you believe Satan is the ruler of the world?

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U said 'God allowed satan time to prove ...' so, u need nt argue. God rules, satan is only trying to rule by d leave of God.

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Who was a murderer from the beginning? ...who instuted the shedding of innocent blood for the guilty?....the userper....the serpant become king who drew first blood to clothe his blinded servants....Think about it..."The prince of this word stands condemned." The god that Jesus came to set all creation from...The god of the jews!!!...the blood hungry one!

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somebody posted this on page 2 i think...I think I can make it better

GOD is the Landlord and owns the Building

Satan is the manager he collects the rent

and you rent the apartment

and have control who comes inside

We have to look at it like this

Satan is in control or rules this world for now

There are many verses that support this

I think this is more accurate:

God is the Landlord and owns the Building

Satan has a lease on the building with a lot of fine print

and you rent the apartment

and have control who comes inside

I say fine print because God allows satan to do certain things

I say it is like a lease because there will be a point it time that Revelation Chapter 5 will happen.

To really understand Revelation 5 you must understand the book of Ruth.

more specifically the role of a kinsman redeemer

Boaz was one, and Jesus is one for his followers

At that point in time the lease is up.

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satan ofcus. if red the christians bibles you see that it speak of satan in Revelation. All the worlds are under our kingdom and masters satanic

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You do err not knowing the scripture nor the power of GOD.Yes satan rules the world. BUT WHICH WORLD ?.There are two world or kingdom_ the kingdom of GOD( world of the redeemed and the world or kingdom of satan ( world of the unredeemed). Before Christ came, satan was totally incharcge of the whole world because Adam surrendered the world to him through sin. But when Christ came and paid the prize for our redemption, HE destroyed the power of the devil over the affairs of men .However one has to be redeemed before this is a reality in ones life.

After your redemption you are delivered from the power of darkness ( world of satan) AND TRANSLATED INTO THE KINGDOM OF HIS DEAR SON ( world of the redeemed) .COLOSSIANS: 1 VS 13.

After your redemption Christ said, " Behold i have given you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions and over every power of the enemy and nothing shall by any means hurt you. ( Luke 10 vs 19).You decide which which world to belong to by your receiving or rejecting redemptive packages offered by JESUS CHRIST.

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Hello Pastor Jo,

I will send you a mail shortly, sir.

Nyt nyt = Good night

Enjoy your day sir.

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^^ Is that the one that Agaba and co listened to? Or the one Ikeja whores sway their hips to? Or is it the one that made you ask wonder if Moses died? Or the one that makes you, a pastor, ask if Magic is real? Or the one that made you say God cut out Eve from Adam because Adam was originally bi-sexual? Dude, whatever you're smoking is weapons grade!

But you are right - something is eating me up inside. It is the insidiousness of you and your type - fat bloated pests living off the blood and work of others, offering them baseless hope in return for their livelihood which you use to purchase what you assume to be prestige. But is it really prestige, Jo-boy? Take NL as a sampling of society - how confident are you here with everyone expressing their disgust at you? How happy are you to be so ridiculed all the time. Can you show me one thread where you presented information that didn't embarrass you eventually?

Which is why I told you to stick to the pulpit - there, no one can ask you questions or show you up. They may shake their heads and rightly think - this guy is definitely a slowpoke, but they can't say it out which helps you somewhat in your delusion. Here though, you'll find people who study the Word and know God - so you are toast!

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Something is definately eating you up on the inside gradually . Just like hitler! It's driving you crazy. Send me you e mail I will send an electronic rhapsody to you to help you. Especially children rhapsody. With cartooon!.

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^^ fake self righteous postulating from a bag of smelly hot air.

So truth is "dirt" now? Well, I like that kind of dirt.

But your perversions are whats good, ehn? and clean, and nice - for it to be "us versus them" and truth be damned, ehn? For me to join in idolizing a man like myself making Christ out to be not more than a pastor; for me to see obvious error yet support it in the "my brother" spirit, ehn?

You're a joke if you expect such from anyone who knows God's Character and honors Him.

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O God,this guy's heart is full of dirt!,

Matthew 12:34

34 for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

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@ mabel: You could have fooled me. Much as I'd love to agree with you, I can't. And we both know that Chris Embassy is always on the front page here and always for disgraceful matters. As a guide, count how many times you find it on the 1st 3 pages here and tell me how many make you proud. Its not personal - just sad truth that God knows I wish wasn't so. But when people post without thinking and expound without knowledge, thats what you get

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@Nuclearboy,

but you know thats not true.

we in christ embassy are known for our giving,soulwinning, expanding God's kingdom and radically giving for the cause of the gospel

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^^^

Got a prompt someone had replied to this thread. Came in, took a look and shook my head in irritation - another vacuous and deluded chris-follower with nothing to say.

Why don't you go commit fraud OR molest a female OR rob a bank OR burn your hair OR spoil Christ's Name as your peers usually do? Those are what Chris Embassy is known for and that you all are wont to do? Why irritate a kid like me?

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^^^ Inter-wrestling? Twould be like Mighty Igor fighting a 4 day old baby. Joagbaje is a baby in these things.

@Jo-boy:

[1] Satan will truly be terrified that we've found out you're his number 2 agent on NL (behind ogaga-whatever)

[2] Me and SirJohn never met and owe ourselves nothing except truth. Sychophancy is what you do with mr oyaks, not when I agree with someone who has found truth and rejected your evil ways

[3] The Bible defines faith clearly and its not what you say it is. You know naught aside Er[b]ROR[/b] which is mutually exclusive of the Bible?

[4] God's Religion takes care of the poor, the widow, the "needy" and favors truth above all men. THAT is the Bible. Your religion subjugates truth and God for chris-yaks and takes from the poor for your pockets.

BTW, were you on suspension from CE? You disappeared for awhile and I was hoping chris yaks had gotten tired of your empty defence of CE shallowness and fired you? The shock would have been God's greatest gift to you as then you'd have seen life from the point of view of those paying rather than those collecting and learnt what love is and the effect your insanity has on innocent people

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joagbaje: twould have been nice if your statement above were true. Sadly though, when satan looks at you, what he sees is his mirror image. Consider firstly, that you don't even know what faith is as proven in your conversation with Sirjohn. The Bible defines faith as trust, belief, obedience etc in God whist you and deluded chris (actually, he likely knows truth but prefers cold cash) say it is making noise and claiming whats not yours to command. How then would anyone in their right mind say its me that that follows God's Word that is anti-faith and you, high on sapele number 5, is of faith? Better wake up

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Satan is defeated but he still has pseudo authority on anti faith individuals like you guys. but we that believe in the Word of Faith. our faith has overcome the world system!.

1Jo 5:4

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

I and Christ are one ,so his victory over the devil is mine. The name of Jesus is now my name. His seat in heavenly places is my seat. When satan takes a look at me, he does not see joagbaje, he sees Jesus Christ.

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, and who is jehovah if not devil,

Twounity, 1*1=1

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^^ Thought you took orders from pastor chris! How then, does that translate to you ruling the world for surely, it ought be him ruling and then he too has mentors so they rule etc etc etc. All these just suggests confusion in you and yours!

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Satan took rulership from Adam so he is the god of this world system. But christ has obtained a name above this world system. We have a kingdom that supercede the world system. We have dominion over the world. So I can say:

I am the one ruling the world

1 John 5:4-5

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world,[ even] our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? D

Romans 5:17

17bthey which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall[b] reign[/b] in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

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Isaiah 9:6 NLT

6 For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. And the government will rest on his shoulders. These will be his royal titles: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

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Isaiah 10:27 NLT

In that day the Lord will end the bondage of his people. He will break the yoke of slavery and lift it from their shoulders.

Isaiah 10:27 KJV

And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.

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Psalms 24 NLT

1 The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it. The world and all its people belong to him.

2 For he laid the earth's foundation on the seas and built it on the ocean depths.

3 Who may climb the mountain of the Lord? Who may stand in his holy place?

4 Only those whose hands and hearts are pure, who do not worship idols and never tell lies.

5 They will receive the Lord's blessing and have right standing with God their savior.

6 They alone may enter God's presence and worship the God of Israel. Interlude

7 Open up, ancient gates! Open up, ancient doors, and let the King of glory enter.

8 Who is the King of glory? The Lord, strong and mighty, the Lord, invincible in battle.

9 Open up, ancient gates! Open up, ancient doors, and let the King of glory enter.

10 Who is the King of glory? The Lord Almighty- he is the King of glory. Interlude

Psalms 24

1 The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.

7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

10 Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

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Roman 8:26-34 NLT

And the Holy Spirit helps us in our distress. For we don't even know what we should pray for, nor how we should pray. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words.

27 And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God's own will.

28 And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them.

29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn, with many brothers and sisters.

30 And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And he gave them right standing with himself, and he promised them his glory.

31 What can we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us?

32 Since God did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won't God, who gave us Christ, also give us everything else?

33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! He is the one who has given us right standing with himself.

34 Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for he is the one who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us.

Roman 8:26-34 KJV

26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

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Jehovah and satan are one and the same entity. You guys have been thoroughly fooled if you have accepted that they are two different entities. Even when the bible gave you enough hints to discover this great deceit, you still remained fooled. Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah/Satan is who is ruling the world right now. Get wise, folks, don't get manipulated via word plays.

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GOD is the Landlord and owns the Building

Satan is the manager he collects the rent

and you rent the apartment

and have control who comes inside

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What do u wanna hear?

To hear that God rules, and

raise another question and vice versa.

Nigeria Is Blessed!

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No amount of argument can change what has been written. The devil is the god of this world. Adam and Eve handed over everything to him by their act of disobedience. If you,re in doubt please check the scriptures very well ( 2 Cor 4:4). But the good news is that we have all it takes to overcome him. To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne as I also overcame and sits with my father on His throne. Lets be determined to overcome him through Christ.

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All will agree with me that the Bible says 'God is Love'

can a loving father CAUSE his children to suffer? Not at all!

Who says he/she is not experiencing suffering in this world today?

this is a simple logic to know that T[b]HE WHOLE WORLD IS LYING IN THE POWER OF THE WICKED ONE[/b].

Jesus taught us how to pray, he includes praying for God's kingdom to come, just like in heaven, so also on earth, so that our suffering will be eradicated.

Have u prayed for it today? if not, this is the time to join millions of sincere ones who say 'our lord's prayer everyday.

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Who rules the world? Are u still asking this question?

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@matate

''We know we originated with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.''1 John 5:19

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the earth and everything on it belongs to god, so he is the one ruling .

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@ ademiife

It means that Christ, who is also Himself fullyGod, who became fully man for us will always be in a position of submission to His Father. That was always the plan from the foundation of eternity. However, some have taught that this proves that Christ is inferior to the Father. Nothing is further fom the truth. Christ and His Father are co-eternal and co-equal. From eternity they stood side by side, until it was time for the Son to play the forever role of a humility, even after He is exalted as King of kings and Lord of Lords.

All the text is saying is that the Devil transported Christ from one point to another. Its very straightforward. I must hasten to say that your translation is not correct when it says: "if you are a son of God" The correct translation is "the son of God" and not "a son of God"

Just as it said. How clearer can you get it?

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Bibi has raised a good point in that it is God who has ultimate control. Yes the bible has said that Satan is the god of this world, but what exactly does it mean by that? Does it mean that God will allow Satan to do as he pleases? Certainly not!

Originally Adam was given dominion over the earth, but when Satan came and decieved the woman, Adam had the opportunity to stand up for God, but instead he chose the woman. In deliberately sinning he gave up that right of rulership.

Satan through deception claims the world, and which is brought out by the scripture. No one can deny that. Bear in mind however, that satan can only be a god if we choose to let him, or if we worship him. He is the god of this world but not the god of the christians. There lies the difference. He is the god of this world because the world worships him whetehr or not they realise it.

Christians have been called out of the world, which is the enemy of God, at least as far as its principles are concerned. How the world views things is different from how we as christians should view things.

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"For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." can someone explain this verses?

what about these:

5 Then the Devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him upon the battlement of the temple 6 and said to him: “If you are a son of God, hurl yourself down; for it is written, ‘He will give his angels a charge concerning you, and they will carry you on their hands, that you may at no time strike your foot against a stone.’” 7 Jesus said to him: “Again it is written, ‘You must not put Jehovah your God to the test.’”

8 Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, 9 and he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.”

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Two things I cant stand are:

1. Christians who are really boring and outdated, who are bible bashing freaks who give christianity a bad name as well.

2. People who label ALL christians as boring and nerdy unfortunately the many who are, give us all a bad name.

Not all christians are boring stereotypical bible bashers though and I am one of the ambassadors. There is hope in the world.

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Hey guys! I when it comes to religion,dont say things from your mind.ALWAYS quote from the bible,

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@thekrafter, in other words, you don't believe in God, right?

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Satan rules this world. All we have to do is to look around us

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Are you serious? That's a strange reason to give. I would have thought that Satan ruled the world precisely because of the way it is!

But seriously now, I think the world works by natural rules. Nobody's in control. It just works, or doesn't. We're responsible for making the best of what we've been given. I don't think there's either a guiding hand making sure things don't fall into chaos, or a malevolent being, trying to make things as bad for us as possible.

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OK Rhodalyn

My dearly beloved, the banks rule the World!

Amen

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It seems to me that the banks control the World :-)

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if satan was the ruler of the world, the world wouldnt have been as it is!!

Jehovah is the same as God only the jehovah witnesses call him jehovah if not he's the same God who rules the world

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God created us out of his own image and gave us dominion over the whole world ,, but because our God will not force you on your decision. It's up to you to decide if you want to follow him or follow satan.

God is in control of this world in all aspects, and God said if u want to follow him be ready to carry the cross.  Following God is not an easy task, why because the devil is constantly around wanting to destroy steal and kill. You have to be firm and u will make it through God that strengthens u.

However because the devil's seems less difficult because of the earthly things Satan seems to be ruling but not in control.

And for those that decide to take this path then Satan is ur ruler.

As for me i am for God he is my ruler and my controller

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The whole world lies in the power of the wicked one satan the devil who is keeps transforming himself into an angel of light--- 2Corthinians 4:4. Jehovah God created the world but satan the devil is the ruler of the world.

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Have read the book by Leo Tolstoy " The Kingdon of God is within you ". I think that answers a lot of questions about who is ruling the world. Also depends on us.

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satan "ruled the earth" here but he still had to have permission from God

Job 1:6

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Job 1:7

And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Job 1:8

And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Job 1:9

Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

Job 1:10

Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

Job 1:11

But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

Job 1:12

And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

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GO HERE >> http://www.keyway.ca/htm2001/20010504.htm

this page has the scriptures to back up why "satan rules the earth" & the events that occured and will occur.

Thanks for this page, very informative guys!

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i agree with rhodarose.

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GoodGuy,

The devil is only the ruler of those who let him rule themselves

God rules those who let Him rule themselves

It is our decision who we let rule us

That is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the Truth, so help me God

RhodaRose

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@ layi

totally supoort u

may seem satan is in charge but i tell u God is in control any day any time

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what i know is.. satan controlled this world now.. and Jehovah God erm.. he wait until the time has came for Him to destroyed bad people.. erm.. im not enough knowledge to talk about this.. sorry..

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After all said, I still believe "God Has the World under Control"

All the terrible things in the world prove that a good, all-powerful God doesn't exist, right? Not necessarily. Even a perfect God might allow bad things to happen for a time, as part of some higher plan. God could know exactly what's going on all of the time and only allow so much, all as part of his grand scheme.

 

The God of the Bible is that God. He claims that nothing on Earth happens without his say-so. He is completely sovereign over all things. "Who can speak and have it happen if the Lord has not decreed it?"Lamentations 3:37

"I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please."Isah 46:10

"The plans of the Lord stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations."Psalm 33:11

"It is the Lord's purpose that prevails."Prov 19:21

This does not mean, however, that everything that happens is something God likes. For example, Jesus told his disciples how to pray; in that prayer, one of the key statements is: "Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."Mat 6:10

God's moral will is always done in heaven, but not on Earth. While God is sovereign over all things, he doesn't like everything that takes place on Earth. But for some reason, he allows those things to happen (his permissive will), maybe as part of the freedom of choice we have as human beings.

But the God of the Bible does have a plan, and he will not rest "until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart."Jer 23:20 What is that plan? God's ultimate goal is to dwell with people in a totally different environment than what we presently experience. Of that next world, this God says, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. I am making everything new!"Rev 21: 3-5

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