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Why Are Yoruba Moslems Considered Inferior To Hausa Moslems?

Does Islam have anything like inferiority or hierarchy because the Hausa moslems in Nigeria tend to view the yoruba moslems as pseudo infidels that needs more commitment towards their Allah? Is that notion found in the Quran or is just mere tribal politics mixed with religion?

I've heard from a reliable moslem that it's because Yoruba moslems intermarry with non moslems.

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Where are great  Olabowale the wise one  and brother Abuzola?

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Lose your temper now, what are you waiting for ? If you lose your temper, I go beat you join am self. Crazy boy

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Lose it, heaven will not fall down.

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*hiss* mr man get away before i lose my temper

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If you can quit lying and confess all the hate you spew here, it will save me a lot of headache unless you really want me to search for your comments. If Islam is not against lying, you may continue to ask for proof, otherwise, say the truth and shame the devil.

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@emeka- where is ur proof

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You need to extend your apology to Christians too for abusing them left and right and threatening to chop off their heads because they are kufirs. I have proof of that too.

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Mr okunoba- judging ur post shows you are brother of emeka, well let me give u this master piece gist:

i am a young Alhaji who had the privilege of going round saudi arabia. True talk some arab are racist. They are rascist because they don't know islam, Hadith and Quran says Allah does not Look at our colour or form but deed and heart. So those rascist are lost.

By God who created me we men in blacks were highly respected and they view us as extremely religious which they will like to imitate that attribute by the arab. Today saudi arabia blacks is 8%, i have seen it is not a story or news

@emeka- why are you exhuming a past discussion which i have already explained vividly before just to make sure there is drift between hausa and yoruba muslim, even if my msg was misunderstand i apologized. So warn yourself

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Mallam Moha Moha himself was a racist and pedo/phile.

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@Abuzola, funny that u "personally see some of d Yoruba Muslim inferior bcoz their belief  (faith) is weak" because that is the same way Arabs see black muslims, inferior because their faith is considered weak.

I have an Hausa friend here in London who was told by  some Arabs he shouldn't`t even bother praying to Allah  as a black man, since he stood no chance of getting to heaven.

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See chart below according to Nezan:

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Thank you Okunoba for exposing that tribalist who hid under religion to do his own. I knew I read it.

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Abuzola (m)

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Re: Why Are Yoruba Moslems Considered Inferior To Hausa Moslems?

« #75 on: May 06, 2009, 06:42 PM »

Good point ! I personally see some of d yoruba muslim inferior bcoz their belief (faith) is weak

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You already said it here before that Yoruba muslims are inferior to Hausa muslims but I can't recall the thread. And don't you deny it.

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Mallam toba the semi literate boy continue leaping

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Thats christianity for u my brother

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sad to see yoruba`s glorifying Islam the religion that was forced on us by Usman Danfodio. The brain washing is complete. How did we get to this stage? How did Ndigbo escape the jihad of the sokoto caliphate that colonised many parts of Yoruba land?

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@Aloy-Emeka, if you say tribal fine,but in ISLAM,everyone is equal

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@aloy,

Thats a lie, a kafir mean an unbeliever in english, no northern will call a southernern muslim an unbeliever except if he himself is a hypocrite. The Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) said anybody who call another muslim an unbeliever while he is not, it will go back to him.

Nobody is calling another muslim kafir this is just ur propaganda, tribalism and hatred

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hehehe

this thing has possessed this fellow.

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I didn't say Yorubas are hypocrites. I said your northern muslim brethren regard their yoruba counterparts as hypocrites and if you doubt me, ask around. The stereotype is strictly unIslamic if I must say. It's more of tribalism.

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@Aloy-Emeka,Tell me,in what way are YORUBAS hypocrites? is it cos we yorubas dnt tie rag on our heads simply cos we dnt have desert or dust in our region or must we tie rag and wear like they wear before they know we are practicing ISLAM or what?

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@post :

The reason is because Yoruba muslims are reasonable and they think with their brain while the Hausa muslims are unreasonable, they preaches HATRED, WARMONGERING, DISCRIMINATION, ELITISM, TRIBALISM.

That is the reason why they attack others who are not Hausa / Fulani in their midst. They also attack the Hausa Christians.

God have mercy !

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It doesn't matter what is the truth in this case rather, what matters is they think you are keferi. As a matter of fact, a keferi is better but most Northerners think you are a muslim hypocrite. I'd prefer to be known as keferi than a hypocrite. Ask around in your neighborhood and confirm.

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i dnt believe in YORUBAS being KEFERI,its just that YORUBAS takes things lenients compare to the HAUSA'S,so that does not make them KEFERI,A KEFERI IS AN UNBELIEVER,just like the christians,jews and others

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To me am a yoruba muslim and i practice ISLAM in it entirety, I believe a muslim is someone that follows the sunnah and the what the GLORIOUS QURAN says,So if you dnt do that,then you are not one but just a figure head,be you hausa or yoruba.

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I am a fundamentalist and so are the pious believers.

According to the definition of fundamentalist it is one who adhere strictly to his religion, are you saying the yoruba are not adhering to strictly Islam, i agree not all of them and the same thing applies to the hausa muslim not all are fundamentalist.

For boko haram to say western education is prohibited it is unislamic. The verse verse of the Quran to be revealed is 'Iqra' i.e read. The Prophet (P.B.U.H) ask zaid to go and learn with the jews and zaid learnt everything within a month, so the boko people's strive is unislamic.

Whatever the Prophet thought is the straight path, and we are going to adhere to it. The Taliban set a good example but the major problem is the barring education of women which is also unislamic, Aisha was a teacher, men and women use to come to her for lecture, she knows the Prophet more than any of us yet she didn't barred women. Taliban have a doctrine of sufism which is generally condemn by the muhsineen

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@Abuzola :

Fundamentalist:-           

According to the Oxford Dictionary- 'Someone who adheres to the fundamentals -core beliefs-of his/her religion.'

The leader of Boko Haram (Muhammed Yusuf) for example, is NOT a TERRORIST. He is a true FUNDAMENTALIST MUHAMMADAN MUSLIM.

He  is only obeying what Allah instructs him to do in the Quran. Therefore, Miuhammed Yusuf and his followers are only following their beliefs even though their acts are actually UNCONSCIONABLE and TERRORISTIC.

The Taliban of Afghanistan, who DEHUMANIZE their Muhammadan WOMEN (over 50% of their population); who do not allow any music or musical instruments because they are 'Satanic'; no painting or sculpting; no gambling; no sex before marriage; no drinking of wine; no poetry; no studying of any other religion except the Quran (because it contains ALL the knowledge that any Muhammadan requires in his/her lifetime), etc. etc.,

ARE NOT EXTREMISTS as the Media erroneously labels them, but are in fact representatives, of the TRUEST EXPRESSION of FUNDAMENTALIST MUHAMMADAN ISLAM as conveyed in the QURAN and HADITHS.

It is the Quran after all, which preaches HATRED, WARMONGERING, DISCRIMINATION, ELITISM, RACISM and the division of all of humanity in TWO distinct and totally irrecocilable camps:

1        The camp of the BELIEVERS, which is called in Arabic, DAL al SALAM, meaning the TERRITORY of PEACE

2        The camp of the UNBELIEVERS, which is called in Arabic, DAR al HARB, meaning the TERRITORY of WAR

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excluding u bro, am referring to the muslims, we are better than them islamically with endurance & preserverance

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Indeed if jihad should occur expect to see millions unlike d arab where a sect only wage it

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I ve been to arab country and from experience i will wallayi we are far better than them when it comes to islam

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Islam is not like xtrianity, islam is d total way of life from that u can say who is inferior

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Arab league is just like AU for those who may mistinterprete me, indeed saudi arabia re aware dat 9ja is d top in faith

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@Emeka, thats far away from the truth, Egyptians are arab and they will never deny that, they even join 'arab league'

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Yap, i like the word 'fundamentalist'. Go check the meaning of fundamentalist and tell me who are the true followers, conservative or fundamentalist ?

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OYB

do not vent on Jarus wasn't him . .

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Please could you give the hadeeth number referenced from where you copied it from ? Page number are not really used for hadeeth reference as it is mainly the page number in the arabic version which is different to the page numbers of the translated version. You could laso go a step further by quoting the whole hadeeth .

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@lagosboy thanks for managing to answer in a polite manner (does it not feel good to you), @noyb learn to be like @lagosboy (be angry but kill no one), be a good boy.

Okay now the the second question.

Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves". (Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47).

Pls expanciate on the above verse, once again pls remember no dancing around the subject.

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I have rested my case just wanted to expose his malicous intents.

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Now let me expose your falsehood and lazy research

you quoted from Bukhari Vol 1 book 11 hadeeth no 662 , this is the full quote - Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."

This hadeeth itself make you shoot yourself in the foot. The hadeeth is talking about the irrelvance of the complexion of your leader and the equality of race before God.

Now this is Bukhari vol 9 hadeeth no 256 "

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

Again we see the meaning of this hadeeth.

a simple independent verification by you will have saved you this embarassment and lazy research.

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The reason could be because Yoruba Muslims are liberal with the Islamic cult while the Hausa are the fundamentalist, just like the Taliban in Afghanistan

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Hmmm now u make fear, did i do wrong ? am only emphasizing that both d tribe disregard recognition when fighting

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@Abuzola

Did you say type OPC? You completely missed my point. Again, If the prophet of Islam (SAW) made no distinctions between muslims based on their race/country/tribe of origin, why then would any muslim with understanding and taqwa make such pronouncements?

Allah bears witness that I have tried to make you see the error in saying one muslim's faith is inferior or weaker than anothers.

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Ayinba illustrated d riot in d north and i as well gave a similar, so was ur problem

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Bro careful when u use dat word as it is heavier than what u think. Tribalism has no place in our faith bro , there is no way u can know if the yoruba that said that is muslim , any godamn person can say the salam. Nigerians have suffered from tribalism and those killings have nothing to do with islam. It is a big shame on us to think this way . Why will any real muslim slay his brother based on tribalism.

The fact is there are weak muslim hausas and there are weak muslim yorubas and there could be a stronger igbo muslim.

Pls note i haven used hausa muslim or yoruba muslim as i bieleive we are msulims first before yoruba or itskeiri or chinese.

Please lets be careful as we dont want to inflame or sow the seed of tribalism in oursleves please.

May Allah guide us aright and forgive our short commings

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