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Why Do Churches Pay Salaries To Musicians?

As a Christian I would like to have different views on why churches pay musicians or employ them on a full time contract.

I understand that musicians have to eat, but shouldn't we do everything for God free of Charge.

Some Musicians are only committed to the church because of the money and that they are on a signed contract, don't churches have a responsibility of leading everyone to the right path.

In America for example, most churches pay their musicians full salary, sometimes even more than their circular counterparts. These Musicians are fully committed to the church, and they must go for every single rehearsals, service and events that the church holds. Some people believe that if you do something free for God, the Reward will be greater

What is your Opinion, Is it right or wrong to be paid as a musician for your services to the Church

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AKO,

I would presume you read my entire post and no the first line before hitting the reply button.

The post was satirical and was intended to show my disgust for this attitude. The church needs to pay bills and the salary of drummers and pianists should not be inclusive. They are there to serve God and should do so!! The other 'church workers' are also serving without pay anyway.

Any musician who feels agrieved should go and release an album because that is how musicians get paid!! not by blackmailing pastors and defecting from one church to another seeking bigger handouts.

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It looks like youre missing the point. If you're looking for entertainment why not invite secular musicians to come and jam gospel songs i your church?

It's more than entertainment, my brother.

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Yes the church should pay their drummers,guitarists and pianists because they keep the flock entertained.

The choir members (who come for rehersals more than once a week), ushers, prayer band members and children's department minders do NOT deserve any monetary reward because the wage bill would be too high besides you do not need any special skills to stand for 4 hours for instance. But the drummer can walk if the price is right and there would be no dancing that sunday.

I would prefer the pastor's to be sincere about this fact and stop this work for God nonsense they are selling. Church admin staff should be paid because its their day job but hell if you pay the drummer, then you should pay all the sunday morning workers because if they walk, sunday service ain't getting done!

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I think

if the motive of the church is to have the best musicians to increase their 'reputation'

or to prevent the good musicians from going elsewhere

then they shouldnt be paid, those kind of people should not even be allowed to play in the first place

people who [b]insist [/b]on being paid, i.e.

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if a musician does not insist on getting paid

and the church deems it fit to give him/her something, to say thank you and as compensation

then it is not wrong.

Many church musicians today have no clue as to what their role in the service is all about.

There is a difference between entertainment and ministration, although they sometimes 'romance' each other well.

In a service, Church musicians are supposed to minister, primarily, and to entertain, secondarily.

The evil spirit left Saul because David played the harp. That tells you the potential that music has spiritually, how much more in the New Testament.

But you find out that many of them see it the other way round, and demand for money as though they were hired to play at a jazz club or something.

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And church that pays rent for it's premises is business.

And church that pays water rates, and electricity bills is business.

If everything in church is free then what is the point of making offerings?

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Church that does that is a business.

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abi ooo, even in my chruch , na only me no dey get pay every sunday cos i belive the talent should be used to glorify God and not an avenue to make cash

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meaning most churches dont care if their workers enter heaven, all they care is giving a great customer service to the congreagration, so as to increase offerings, tithes and congregation number

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When will people understand that church is just a business like any other business?

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I guess some people just don't get it.

Anyway(s) i wanna appologize to anyone(esp musicians)that was hurt in anyway by the coment(s) on my previous post(s).

Thanks

God Bless y'all.

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What an absolutely pitiful question. Why doesn't everybody just do everything for free? Even God required payment for our salvation and Jesus PAID IT ALL with his blood!

You know I was on staff as a paid director and musician for a very large A.M.E. church. And I believe I did my parents proud who PAID for music lessons for me for 15 years! Every music book they bought every ounce of gas the spent driving me, every time I told my father (who was an atheist to the core) that I had to have that Andrae Crouch Record, or that Walter Hawkins record to learn the songs for the choir, they now know that it was not in vain. I am so sick and tired of cheap broke people questioning if a skilled learned musician should get a salary. I also went on to study music on a college level as well. I'll tell you something. The day anyone can walk up to a college, a conservatory and you tell them, "I'm going to work and use what you teach me for a church, for ministry," and THEY in turn say, "oh well please, then every class, notebook, text book is FREE, when that is done maybe I will consider playing and working for free. And please know IT IS WORK! Can we move on to discussing something more relevant than if you should pay the musician? I mean please I have never heard of any musician becoming financially independent playing for some piece of a church, most if not all have to work a 9-5 as well!

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I am not saying that paying musicians is a SIN all i am saying is that sometimes we need to look beyond just singing/playing and "getting payed" in the church and know that the work is for God.(esp when we are not into it full time)

And please it is a gift.If God did not give you the first skill and the grace and interest to acquire more,you wouldn't have them.

Thanks

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The church is now a full-fledged business enterprise. The bottom line for most of them is profit maximization. The better musicians get hired and are well paid to improve the quality of the product put out every Sunday.

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Hmm, in other words what you're saying is that there is no place in scripture for only one person to head up a church in scripture. Well, i guess that is food for thought, though i can't say that the present day disposition really bothers me sha.

Although another way you could look at it is that most churches today have more than one pastor - people you could call "a plurality of elders", but as among the Apostles there was a clear leader (Peter), in our churches too there is typically a Senior Pastor.

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I happen to be a pro musician, most of the time when i'm not touring, i play in a church and i get paid for doing so, now i dont see anything wrong with me getting paid for doping my job, Music is like every other profession, you spend money and time to aquire the knowledge, and please note. music is NOT one of the gift of the spirit, you'll have to spend hours on a daily basis to aquire the skill. so getting paid as a musician either within or without the church setting is NOT a sin

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Maybe we should ask the pastors and head of the churches!

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Hi Consultant,

In as much as we are trying to air our differing views on the issue, I think these are both informed by differing perspectives/approaches to our common faith.

We could spend forever making points without really understanding each other, and be non the wiser.

So for example, your comment "likening Apostles to present day pastors" does not resonate with my understanding. I personally do not see what you may call the "job spec" of modern day pastors in scripture (neither do I know precisely how it operates in your particular congregation). I see "plurality of elders".

I think we'd all be best served if we talked fundamentals more, as then we would clearly understand the basis for our differing takes.

I appreciate you comments and thanks for taking the time to reply.

God bless

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Deut 25:4 Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.

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I don't think it is every church that pays there Musicians i mean mine(both in Nigeria and over here) don't.

A musician has a gift and gifts are given to us by God for the edification of the church and the work is for God.If a musician has a Job and also demands payment from the church,then maybe he/she does not really know what he/she is called to do by God.

But all the same i think if a musician is working full time for the church, then there is nothing wrong in paying Him/her.

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@TV01

They didn't need to be paid then! Everyone in the church pooled their resources together and they all spent money out of a common purse. In the present day, that tradition no longer holds in the church but church workers still have to eat,

You can liken the role of the Apostles in the Bible to the role of Pastors in present day, i don't see any contradictions here, so what is your point?

Churches have administrative staff who answer phones, send out letters, schedule appointments, stuff like that. In the case of my church, we also run a christian school, a bookstore, orphanages, food bank etc. The Pastor of the church cannot single-handedly run all these establishments. That's the point i was making.

A beg, wetin concern agbero with overload? I don't have any reason to seek to justify my church's practices. I attend the church i do because i love the congregation and support the Pastor's vision. I didn't start the church, neither am i nominating it for "church of the year". It is of no consequence to me whether or not the workers are paid.

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Churches should pay their musicians period. Its like saying don't work on sunday but in some developed places, ssunday work is like everyday. Why not stop the nurses from working on sunday so that if a person is dieing, he or she will die on sunday, Increasingly due to the demand by the society, certain things must be changes. One of which is the notion of paying church workers. They should be paid however i am against paying them a salary wage unless they r full time employee working for the church. In my village we don't pay church singers. They get everything free except their talent. They beg to play for the church becasue that is how they advertise their talent. They eventually start winning contracts to play every weekend in occasions around the village, wedding, funerals etc. they make money this way. Like i said ealier, it all depends on the demand of the society.

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we should have a lighthearted approach guy.no offence meant.cheers mate.peace

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baby boy if you check my post, you'll see that im asking questions, I havent actually made an opinion, I'm in the middle, The reason im asking all these questions is to have a decision on this matter through different peoples views and advice.

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U can use the gift God gave u to work in his vine yard without pay and that’s for a true Christian and mainly because he's not doing it full time for the church. The  unbeliver  is been motivetd by the salary he's payed.

  Gift or no gift u not going to eat sand when u working full time for the church, God aren’t going to comedown from heaven and give u money to take care of your needs. its going to take big big faith if u working full time without pay . u  not going to  beg or steal good cloths to wear,  trek to church if u living far away  or tell your   landlord (if u don’t own a house) that u aren’t going to pay your rent because u working full time for God. etc

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What about using the gift God gave you to bless him back. I know of a very web designer that did a website for a church free of charge and his business started booming after that.

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i believe music is one of the basic thingys that attract peeps to church,

then you have a good musician or a couple of them,

i thinks its fair you pay them,

we have gifts to seperate us from each other and also to feeed us,

web designers wouldn'e design for the church free,

cos we all gats feed,

that the basic point,

get paid to survive.

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I am one of four keyboardists in my church, and we are not on a salary. But that's because our church is lucky to have us all around.

There are churches that have instruments and no one to play them. In such cases, the church is free to engage the services of instrumentalists as they wish, but should make sure that such are actually christians, so as not to offer what the bible calls a "strange incense" unto God.

Conclusion? Nothing wrong with paying musicians (how much is the money sef?) but the church has to work on their salvation as well.

A true Christian musician on a salary will not just come to church because of the money he is getting, but will come to play in church because of God.

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Hi Consultant,

Read your post. Thank you. Read the scripture you suggested. Thanks again.

I'll respond, then comment and ask a few questions.

~ The deacons were appointed to ensure that distributions from the common purse were equitably made. The bible does not suggest they were paid staff.

~ The only two offices in the bible are elder and deacon. Simply because "Church" is about ministering to each other spiritually and physically.

Could you please explain, what are these other responsibilities you refer to? And why do they require paid staff,

Your "Pastor cannot do it all" comment. Could you please show me where in the Bible that a "pastor"

(singular) is supposed to head/run a church. Pointing me to a pastor's mandate in the Bible would suffice.

What I see is your reading the scripture to justify your church practice/tradition.

God bless

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Musicians dont do administrative stuff, they minister

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You should read Acts 6:1-7. In the beginning of the church, the Apostles concentrated solely on spiritual matters until the widows started to complain that they were being shortchanged when food was handed out daily (in those days, every member of the church sold their possessions and put the money in a common purse, so they all ate together). The Apostle's response to the issue? They handpicked seven deacons to take care of administrative duties while they concentrated on preaching the word. That is why churches need paid workers. Because in addition to preaching the gospel, the church has other responsibilities to fulfil and the Pastors cannot do it all.

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My dear, its hard to question people's motives for doing things, because as the bible says "the heart of man is deep". But remember when Paul was talking about some people preaching the gospel out of false motives? (Sorry, i can't remember the scripture reference) He said whatever their motives, he is happy that the gospel is getting preached anyway.

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@consultant doesn't it bother you that some of them come to church just because of the money rather than doing the job wholeheartedly (in the right spirit rather than flesh)

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Because a labourer is worthy of his reward - and church workers also have to eat and feed their families. Note that the Levites were paid in their day.

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Ok should we say why do churches pay church workers. I do not have any problem with paying workers, I just want to hear different views on the matter

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am in with consultant on this.

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Haba! Churches pay pastors, administrators and all forms of workers. Why are you singling out musicians for criticism?

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So you think having a salary takes away from the gift? My grandmother is an organist and has been her whole life, she spent many years learning and perfecting her talen, why do you think we are given talents? The church does not expect a person to do them jobs for free out of the goodness of their heart, everyone in the church must stay alive, and work is what gives you that. Having a job isn't a sin, especially if your job is an addition to the church.

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