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Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos?

I Am Sick & Tired Of Yoruba Movie Producers/Directors! They Make Me Sick!

I think most of the Yoruba movie producers and directors are uncivilized and lack foresight.   I am in a fowl mood now and ready to bash these so-called primitive people called producers/directors.

I have seen hundreds of their movies of recent, and my Gawd, detest every bit of it! The actors/actress are ok by me , and even most of the story lines are fine. The most annoying part is when every difficult situation the cast face(s) has to lead to a babalawo. The Producers/directors tends to focus your attention to the 'wonderful role' these so=called herbalist play in their lives.

Ogogo and his wife are childless, next thing you see is babalawo. Although they often said they're revealing what most Nigerian does, this is often not the case. The Producer is the brain behind the fetishism, casting shadows of what may or kill his/her people if alternate source is not used.

However, most of the Yoruba actor/producers are Muslims (Yoruba Muslims sees nothing wrong with aajo- alternate source) thereby making the Christians amongst them look rather sheepish or marooned. Murphy Afolabi is one of the worst Yoruba Producer of all time. Always showcasing his diabolical power or most times herbalitical prowess. For goodness sake, does every misfortune in  Yoruba Movies have to lead to consulting a soothsayer/herbalist?

I think its high time we stopped this madness and discourage the use of these babalawo's in almost all the Yoruba movies. What happened to the positive side of things? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not in any way insinuating that some of these things don't happen in real life, but i'm on the positive side of things. Let us boycott their use and be more civilize. Bukky wright (a Muslim) is sick, you see her first with the herbalist, then  Alfa, and finally the Church (Cele or C&S). Any spiritual place that sees vision and give something to use for remedy suit the Producer/director perfectly. These so-called think they're discouraging people from the use of native powers, but in essence, encouraging it.

Yoruba Movies always ridicule the Christian faith but encourages Islam and fetishism (both goes hand-in- hand). I am tired and tired of this non-sense. These people are just too overly cultural and traditional and refuses to see the positivity of Jesus's salvation to their ignorance.

Just waiting for the day I'd catch any of these miscreant; I swear I'll teach them a good lesson. I dey vex, make nobody stop me.

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Besides, all those elderly actors who play these babalawo roles and can't sem to play any other roles, need to be kept employed. That is another real world reason why these producers keep these roles alive in their movies.

And it also seems that their target audiences love these babalawo angle. I, personally, will love to do away with them. I love movies in which characters think up solutions to the challenges that face them.

Immidiately these characters head off to the babalawos' hauses, or some pastors' churches, or some alufa's place when they face a problem or two, i just get tired of the film and simply switch off. Nothing is as boring as watching people who can't use their brains to solve problems on the small screen. Sheer waste of time and money.

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And what is wrong with yoruba movies promoting babalawos? Afterall, christian movies are seriously promoting their christian babalawos (pastors) and their imported judeo-roman fetishes.

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I appreciate D views of posters bt wat i C dia z Dt nothing wrong in Dt cos itz local/traditional movie which shd promote traditional solution 2 D prob

Hence Ds doesnt mean U mst Blive since it jst frm idealistic view of writer

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Honestly, i share partly from sentiment of the poster on some of our Youruba films.

I must admit that there are quite lot of them with very good story lines, but i hate this idea of "every problems must lead and be solved by Babalawo syndrome".

We need to understand that almost all Nollywood movies (Yoruba, Igbo, english and others) promote spiritual angle to almost every problem.

The profiteers are the spiritualists who have over the time made financial gains from vulnerable Nigerians where ordinary and unconscious  people were made to believe that they are spiritually weak. Hence, they must consult spiritual masters before their problems are solved even when it is obvious that their problems are purely medical problems.

This ugly trend is not limited to Yorubas alone, it envelopes the whole tribes and religious in Nigeria. Traditional believers have been brainwashed that if they have not consulted Babalawos or Occult priests their problems will not be solved likewise some Muslims who also nurture the belief that they have to consult one Alfa or malam before their problems are solved. Christians are not spared as well, as many believe their Pastors are mini god, as such, needs to be consulted before their problems can be solved.

Yoruba films producers can always showcase the rich culture of Yoruba in their works without necessarily promoting the Babalawo prowess.

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This is Ishawuru in the English version of Agbara Nla.

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Enter "Ishawuru" the numero uno "Babalawo" of "Muwonleru" in the "Yoruba land"

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Very disappointing comment! Pls do come up with a very constructive and more meaningful post, ok!. Na beg I beg u

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@beetee44 If you are out of words, why dont you go to bed rather than blaspheming another religion.

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Maybe you can buttress your point with statistical and scientifical evidence that support your "true statement"

BTW, the churches and the mosques and their priests should equally be wiped out because they preach decay. We also know a lot of them through their deeds, I mean the pastors and alfas.

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Should read: Or was it not also written: You shall not steal?

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Monday - the day the unbelievers worship the moon should be erased from the Christian calendar

Thursday - the day the unbelievers worship Thor the God of thunder should be erased from the Christian calendar too

Saturday - the day the unbelievers worship the planet Saturn should be erased from the Christian calendar as well

And especially you should stop going to church on SUNDAY because you go to worhsip the SUN when you do. The Jewish Sabath is Saturday not Sunday!

Stop celebrating Christmas because Christ was never massed on the 25th of December. Xmas is a pagan ritual. Most if not all Christian rituals have their origin in paganism of the JEWS and the Europeans. Being Christian is in effect bieng pagan, The same goes for Islam. That rock in Mecca that you circle is a pagan ritual shrine etc.

The continued observance and performace of the so numerous pagan rituals in the socalled "true religions" is in itself primitive and uncreative. Stealing the ideas and shrines of other religions and to label the people you have robbed as UNBELIEVERS is also very primitive and CRUEL. Now, get rid of those things, Or to put it in the language you understand: Get rid of the logs in your eyes first, Then we can talk. Or was it not also written: You shall steal?

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I SEE ABIT SENCE IN WAT D POSTER SAYS, FOR EXAMPLE NIGERIAN MOVIES ARE WATCHED WILDLY BY ALOT OF AFRICANS ABROAD, I WONDER WHY EACH TIME I GET INTO GATHERINGS OF AFRICANS ABROAD THE FIRST THING THEY TELL ME IS "TOO MUCH VODOO NIGERIANS"

AM MARRIED TO A BRITISH ETHIOPAN NOW FOR 3 YEARS AND YET SHE IS SCARED OF VISITING NIGERIA, SHE LOVES NIGERIA TO D CORE , U NEED SEE HER FIGHT IN OFFICES WHENEVER THEY REFUSE OUR PROJECT SIMPLY COS AM A NIGERIAN, STILL SHE IS SCARED OF GOING TO NIGERIA,

COME TO THINK OF IT, 150 MILLION PEOPLE HOW MANY SELF IN THIS MODERN DAYS DON ENTER BABALAWO HOUSE WEY B SAY ALL OUR MOVIES NA SO SO VODOO.

GOD SAVE THIS PRODUCERS AND SO CALLED DIRECTORS OF NO MODERNIZED SKULLS

E DEY PAIN ME COS I DEY SUFFER BIG TIME FROM AM

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poster you need to watch more YORUBA movies because it looks like you are left behind. i watch them and they are improving and next time watch how you paste you may cause religious crisis.

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The only way Yoruba people can be free from the evils of their society which stem from the immoral teachings of elders immersed in occultic, pagan

rituals and all manners of communion with evil demon that pollute the soul is to simply wipe out the Yoruba occult and pagan religion, its priests and its

followers. The kidnap, murder and use the body parts of their human victims in all kinds of barbaric evil demon worshipping ceremonies. Everyone

knows this statement is true. The propagate the false doctrine of goodness is bad and worthy of loathing. And that evil itself is worthy of veneration.

And they rejoice in the might and triumphs of evil.

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@Poster

I tell you, these past few days, my mum is beginning to get worried about the same issue raised here. She is a great lover and supporter of quality cultural Yoruba movies and does rent upto 10 to 15 movies each week.

However, she's now beginning to get irritated by the amount of lack of self-belief of the producers and the use of almost same story line . She told me and I quote " Did you know that out of the 40 DVD's I've watched so far, only 1 doesn't contain a babalawo scene?" Oh boy, that was a lot!

I'm a lil bit concern as I don't know what message the producers are trying to get across.

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Honestly, this is beautiful.

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Well my good Pastor, first of all I must say that I admire your interest in the visual arts,  these myths and gods in our paintings, opera etc were once our beliefs and they general determined our culture and way of life hundreds of years ago, they are as you say it, our roots and heritage which we as Italians have preserved because we believe that even as Christians, we must never forget where we came from, it determines who we are and tells the stories of how our culture has progressed.  

We find our ancient religions fascinating and have chosen to preserve it and even sell it to the modern world.  You should see the Greeks or visit Greece to see how serious they are with all this.

And hey Pastor, Italian art is also full of Christian stuff.  Have you seen the sculptures by Micheal Angelo, the paintings in St. Peters Basilica, even the more famous pictures of Jesus have their origin from Italian art.   No vex o, so you no go break my balls, Bros I sabi o, I don dey Naija for 25 years now.

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Honestly speaking, we all need to respect ourself and what we are. The problem in middle east is that the Muslims want every living soul on planet to be a Muslim. I don't no how they will achieve that goal even if they kill everybody. So we all need to appreciate ourself and respect what we believe in, after all they all have their diffrent significant. I love Nigeria religion ideology. They respect each other. I can remember when the Muslims are celebrating the christian go along with them, even Ebenezer obey will sing and make record for them so also during the christian celebration.

Lets get along and make this world a peaceful place to enjoy.

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Not just babalawos, Yoruba movies have also started showing indecency. Watch 2[b].58 -3.58[/b]

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even if it does happen, if they're both adults, na them sabi.

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Yoruba film artists love to perpetuate ungoldly spiritism and all manners of idolatries. They play on the ridiculous fear of evil spirits, witches and sorcerers that Yoruba people still have in their psyches. They are still trying to establish the fear of evil in Yoruba people. They are carving out a sloppy horror movie genre.

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Humility is the art of displaying a modest view of oneself as against being arrogant

or having a bloated conception of oneself while at the same time looking down on others.

In Iworo-Wowo (Iwori-Ose), Ifa warns against being arrogant:

Asilu mo piki, ilekun ase

Adifa fun ajiwekun-wesa

Ti won ni omi ti yoo gbe lo ko ni kun aha

Ebo won ni ko wa se

O pe awo ni eke

O pe Esu odara ni ole

Ko pe o ke jinna

Eyin o ri Ifa awo ti nse bi ala more

A large door is that which when opened, make a big reverberating noise

This was the decalaration of Ifa to he who swims through oceans and lagoons early each day

they told him that the water which would make him drown would not be up to a cupful

he tagged the Awo as cheats

and called Esu odara a thief

Before long, not too far

behold Ifa as it has come to pass like a dream

The person reffered to here was so good in swimming that he thought that no water could harm him.

When he was advised to offer sacrifice against being drowned in the water, which would be up to a cupful, he thought it impossible.

Relying on his ability, he abused the Awo and Esu Odara and left. A few moments later, he took a small calabash to drink water,

the water ran into his windpipe and he died of asphyxation. A few seconds to his death, he remembered the advice of the Awo but alas it was too late,

Ela boru Ela boye Ela bosise

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Apart from Babalawos, producers here draw a lot of inspiration from Prophet Mohammed. For the fact that Prophet Mohammed married a woman older than him, this producers produce films of boys marrying women old enough to be their mothers.

In real life, that does not happen in Yorubaland. There have never been any case of a 25 year old marrying a mother of 50 years in Yorubaland.

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@topic,

This thread is a very sensitive one, and a lot people are taking it personal; especially those that comes from a babalawo background or have anything to do with them.

Culture is culture and should be respected, no doubt about that. @poster is only soliciting for a reduced appearance of babalawos in Yoruba movies, let us therefore either support or be against it without being sentimental about it.

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You this italian guy, tell me. Why must italian renaissance art be full of depictions of myths and gods. If it is not Leda and the Swan, it is andromeda, or Zeus/jupiter getting up to one thing or the other.

Opera too na the same thing. Imagine Wagner depicting the Valkyries in his operas. I don't want to see any more classical gods or heroes in this modern day christian world, so you better watch yourself or I go vex for you o!! I will break your balls if you continue.

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I have really enjoyed this thread, most especially I have enjoyed people's response to b444's post, some are really hilarious, like Tudor, however I must say that even though I try to understand the logic behind the topic I really don't think the arguments holds enough ground.

@bee444:

Yoruba movie portraying balalawo's are just as good as you watching a Harry Porter movie that portrays witchcraft. These themes are more symbolic than real life. Although there are elements of these themes in today's society (not just Nigeria but all around the world) their purpose is to tell a story about where people are coming from i.e. their roots, heritage and early culture etc. These are important aspects of society because they tell about your history. Because you see babalawo being the solution to common problems in Yoruba movies does not mean that the producers are promoting babalawos. This is a movie, it is fiction (although possessing an element of truth) and what is seen in not as common as you have put it.

Secondly, Nigerians are not traditionally Christains nor Moslems. They had their own beliefs tied to their own culture way back. It is the introduction of Christainity and Islam that has (sadly) demonized the old beliefs (exactly what you are doing in your response to some people). The old beliefs are just what they are -OLD- however they are not meant to be condemned or demonized. I say this to you as a non-Nigerian. I am italian and I can tell you that Nigeria does not have as many Old traditional beliefs as we do. We are born Catholics in my country however, we have preserved elements of our old beliefs so well we have even sold them to the world as classical beauty. E.g. the nine planets of our solar system are named after famous Roman gods. These gods have been used in movies, story books for children, video games etc.

bee444, I encourage you as a good Christian, movies have symbolic meanings and serve their purpose in reminding us of all our history and elements of what our society was, so that tommorrow you and I can tell our descendants, this is where we came from.

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Babalawos are herbalists with a lot of knowledge of the medicinal value of herbs. Pastors don't have any medical training. That could be the difference.

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I have seen people who have been healed by Babalawo, but I've never seen anyone who has ever been healed by a pastor

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Rano walks in

read's the reccent posted thread . . .

doze's off suddenly . . . zzzZZZZZZZZ,

woke up later . . . still boring, then he said . . .

@poster, pls wake me up when u have something resonable to talk about.

then he went back to sleep!

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You're right bang on the point my dear!

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Religion cannot set anyone free. No religion can obliterate the blight of poverty and disease and man-made problems. It is education. There are no religions in Africa, there are pseudo-religious enterprises. The so-called religious enterprises are a burden on these hapless villagers. What they need is how to grow their crops and get better yields, how to save their excess income and not squander it in ostentatious living, how to avoid or treat snake bite by wearing long boots, how to avoid tetanus infection and not call it attack, how to send their children to school to better their lots and not thinking of them jamming luck someday, how to protect themselves from adverse weather condition through weather information, how to avoid mosquito bites through proper usage of mosquito nets, how to organize themselves into civil societies to confront their representatives and claim their civil rights, how to take advantage of civil arbitration and not take laws into their hands by resorting to jungle justice, how not to have too many children that they cannot take care of. Put simply, how to master their environment. Religion cannot do it. It’s science that does that. The early missionaries in Africa and Asia used this simple technique to develop their host communities, unfortunately since they left, we have gone back to our primitive ways.

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Analogy my sister, analogy. Don't take offence, se otigbo aburo? Just trying to make a statement. Not dissing muslims,ok.

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Exactly ma point.

Just like God always prevail over evil in Mount Zion movies is the way God always prevail in the Yoruba movies the OP is talking about.

Yoruba movies don't promote Herbalists. . . . .Showing the audience that Babalawos exist is not promoting them.

Are Nigerian movies also promoting pros[i]t[/i]itutes, hired assassins and armed robbers as well?

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Much ado about babalawo.

It is very interesting to note that something as irrelevant as Babalawos in movies can generate so much heat, anger, and ill feelings. B4 y'all continue with ur bickering just get some things str8

1. Babalawo in yoruba movies  have been here a long time and will continue to be produced and enjoyed by many no matter how much U hate it.

2. Ur rantings [ or anything else u may do] can't stop the production of babalawo in yoruba movies,  or people from watching [and enjoying] babalawo in yoruba movies.

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Very intelligent comment, well said.

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Yoruba films are dying because of the Babalawo problem. Bringing juju into everything has made me to stop watching Yoruba films. Its really disgusting. Its due to lack of quality amongst the producers. They usually involve the babalawos in cheesy idiotic and moronic plots.

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Everyone, please please please, try to discuss with each other respectfully. I'd hate to have to lock this thread.

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your analogies are off base and like i said, stop being so bitter that you cant even keep up any semblance of a normal conversation.  O ga fun e!!!!

this is what I got when i googled arab on google images:

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=arab&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

I googled hindu  (A RELIGION) and found idols, temples, etc like you said.    Now, is Yoruba a religion? Google India and tell me what you find.

so who's yawning now? I think you need to get your brain out of your behind!

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One funny thing the poster isn't realising is the fact that despite the over concentration on fetish films,these are the things that happen on a daily basis,if u doubt me.try walking into any market where herbs are being sold and try spending a day there.

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Mount zion movies have really touched lives positively. Most of their movies are based on true life stories like'just a little sin and the ark of God'

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Yes they show herbalists but did you watch what becomes of them? Mount Zion movies are an evangelistic outreach to people who have been stuck in the deception of these babalawos, they show what true Christians who are missionaries encounter when they go on evangelistic outreaches in remote villages. Religious people who stay in the cities don't know the spiritual battles being fought to set our people free. If you truly watch their films you will realise that God always prevail over evil.

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To show how entrenched this stupidity and backwardness is, I heard a story of a professor of economics from Africa, who said money supply cannot be tracked because it’s difficult getting the data of those monies that come from RITUALS. Can you imagine that? A professor who was trained in the science and techniques of economics said MONEY RITUALISTS have impact in monetary policy. He didn’t say currency counterfeiters, he directly mentioned money ritualists, how they do it he didn’t explain, probably he couldn’t.

That is why African’s problem defy solutions. That is why even our wars are most brutal. That is why the mind is so warped that nothing seems to be working. There is a nexus between this observation and the state of development of Africa as a whole. Can you imagine how the Hollywood has impacted on the American society and even societies outside America. What is more, these so-called Babalawos are dying of ordinary malaria fever in villages.

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what's the rationality in googling yoruba and seeing pages and pages of fetishes, idols, and whatever? Are yorubas the only people involved in fetish?

the point here is[b] the lack of diversity [/b] as if we're not capable of handling other subject matter.

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Wats d rationality in believing a man rose from d dead after three days or someone lived in a fish for 3 days?

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^^ the point here is try to control your foul mouth and stop lashing out at everything and everyone. Learn to present your points civilly, not always in such a warmongering manner.

most people have had hard knocks in life- get with the program.

you're like that goob character in meet the robinsons.

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I get your point poster. But, you probably do not know that you are up against a multi million naira, dollars if you like, industry that is sustained by fear, pseudo-religion, mass hysteria and ignorance. African people in general, refer to archaic, primitive and barbaric practices as culture because they want to sustain their economic base. Most of these guys in the Yoruba movie genre, I mean producers, directors and acts are not literate, the literates among them are directly from villages where these pre-medieval practices are strong. How can someone call killing of humans for so-called money ritual as culture if not villagers. That does not mean there are not some of them who are literate, but certainly not educated. How can someone leave civilization (city) to seek solution to his marital/finance/economic/health problems in the bush, with one old or young man who has never been to school, does not practice basic hygiene i.e. brush his teeth daily, probably has never seen electricity before?

You can rest assured that African mythology is very primitive, people are not encouraged to think through their problems or challenges except offered some silly remedy which makes things worse for them. Imagine for a second, someone runs into a hard time, and all he could think of is one man, or woman maybe his wife or mother or neighbor, being responsible for his misfortune. Or a woman who apparently cannot conceive and all the advice she could get is going to drink some toxic substance in the name of culture. Is the baby going to be from outer space with 9 fingers, two heads, seven legs? In other words, are they having babies that are different from normal humans. It's just plain irrational.

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It's all make believe, Hollywood movies have more diabolical plots than anything Nigeria can dish out. You either watch them or not, no cause for alarm!

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