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salam to the muslims outhere,

i really want to know why muslims are not always found organising wealth creation seminars for their members like their christian counetrparts.i will reall like to break this jinx because it is becoming very embarrasing to we the muslims.if you ave any islamic organisation i will ;like to organise a free wealth creation seminar for them.call me on 08080764159

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@babs787,

What do you understand by tithes and zakat? Please I just want to know what you personally understand by those terms; rather than someone else's material that I probably have seen on another website.

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@aproko

Sure Muslims believe in wealth creation and at the same time believe the rich should feed the poor through zakah. My sister don't you think that tithe should be treated in the same way zakat is treated?

Did you mean alms?

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@ ibrahim007,

take it easy my guy.

@ topic,

do muslims believe in wealth creation or they believe the rich should feed the poor?i guess that may account for why there aren't too many seminars cos a lot of the muslims just wait for arms. i hope my opinion is not misinformed though, and if it is i would like to be educated.

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OMOGE,thanks for the talk,i didn't do well at all,may Allah continue to bless you.Those folks got me,

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@Davidylan,

Thanks for educating the guy.  It is clear how ignorant he is about the issues he is dabbling with.

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@somze,

You no go kill person. I don laugh wound myself for here! Yours is undoubtedly the joke and sarcasm of the month! No contest! Excuse me while I keep laughing!

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@deeni,

What's happening to you? Even though you may wish things were somewhat different from facts on ground, is that reason enough for you to deny the Holocaust?

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first of all, you didnt even bother to refute ANY of the questions i raised in my earlier post rather choosing to hide under the banner of another bogus question.

Yes dear, the Jews were dispersed from their nation after AD 70 just as had been recorded in the bible thousands of years ago.

The lies you have been fed will prevent you from removing the blinkered glasses tinted with islamic anti-semitism! The Americans did NOT create Isreal in 1948. It had already existed and had a few jews and arabs who had remained on the land. After world war I, the Ottoman empire collapsed and handed over control of Palaestina to British control in 1917. In 1922, the Balfour declaration gave 75% of Palaestina to King Abdullah to form transjordan as the arab part of palestine! It is this transjordan that is the kingdom of Jordan that you see on your map today.

Now lest i forget, Jordan is NOT an arab name indicating that Jordan in itself is an illegal nation occupying what used to be Jewish lands more than 2000 yrs ago!

The remaining part of british controlled palaestine was to be given to Isreal so they could form a new nation.

One of the greatest lies that you have also perpetuated is that America formed Isreal in 1948:

1. It was the British and NOT the americans who controlled palaestine up until 1948!

2. Isreal has been in existence for more than 4000 yrs!

3. Where was the nation of palaestine before 1948? Hanging in the moon?

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AND WHERE WERE THE JEWS ALL THESE THOUSSANDS OF YEARS ! Why did the Americans have to create it in the again in 1948?

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I believe YOU!, need to get your facts right. The Palestinians have lived on that land for generations .Israel was only created out of that land for the Jews of Europe as compensation after WW11. Even the Americans,the Zionists( Note that not all Jews are necessarily Zionists) and the Europeans acknowledge this! That's why the hoax of the Holocaust still persists. If the Americans and The Europeans had RESETTLED them in Europe, perhaps this world would have been a better place.

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I chose to start from this quote ostensibly to expose your dishonesty and stark ignorance. You claim others should "know the facts" before delving into "divisive" issues.

1. Where are the "facts"? why not educate us on the "facts" since you know them.

2. What makes issues divisive? that we refuse to join the growiing crowd of hypocrites who struggle desperately to overlook the utter folly of the quran in order not to offend you?

To absolve islam of its violent doctrine based on the ridiculous assertion that other religious adherents are violent is dishonesty. Where are the other "extremist" adherents of other religions? Which other religion claims those who kill others avoid going to hell unlike other "righteous" believers?

Which religion calls others apes and pigs? which religion says those who leave it should be killed?

the so-called "appology" had more to do with politics and a covert attempt to improve the flagging population of the catholic church in south America.

this issue of palestinians being second clas citizens in their own homeland has been worn out and over flogged. Palestinians are usurpers to the land of Isreal period! Get your facts right.

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It is true that almost every religion has experienced sad cases of its adherents involved in violence in one way or the other.

The basic concern here is: does Islam promote violence as a tenet for the cause of Allah?

We can vouch that Christianity does NOT teach Christians to be violent, even though some have been involved in them for religious reasons. Yet, would Muslims say that the Qur'an does not teach violence as a a confirmed tenet of Islam?

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@deeni

Spare us the relativist claptrap.Violence by Islamists shouldn't be explained away by pointing to violence by other religionists.To pretend that ISLAMIST violence is no different from any other like violence is utter folly.At best it smacks of ignorance,at worst it reveals your dishonesty   in this regard.

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Well I feel strongly about your assertions as to Muslims being violent. There's no religion on Earth that does not have adherents who are extreme in their actions. Remember that only as recent as last week Pope Benedict was apologising to the Latinos. If the truth is to be told about the Israel and the Palestinians you will realise that the fact of thematter is that noone will accept to be a secind class citizen in his own homeland. The Israelis daily bomb and kill Palestinians who, incidentally are both Muslim and Christians( Which most of our Christian brothers fail to realise) and the Palestinians in turn respond with the only weapons at their disposal. Please lets always know the facts before delving into divisive issues such as this.

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Its so painful that muslims dont want to take responsibility for who they are. In my opinion accepting that islam has a violent history  and  in most cases they are aggressors rather than the aggressed they make themselves out to be would be a very good start to proffering solution to most relegious problems around the world or is it just a coincidence that they are killing hindus in india, pakistan,thailand, malaysia, phillipines,christains in nigeria,lebanon,jews in israel(everywhere) using despicable methods and practices. thanx to all objective nairalanders who dont revert to unwarranted invectives when they realise how weak and unreasonable their argument is.

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holy books, both preach goodness now.

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HOLOCAUST never happened. The twin towers are still standing, train bombing in UK was imaginary and ISLAM DOES NOT IN ANYWAY SUPPORT OR ADVOCATE TERRORISM. ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL PEACEFUL RELIGION.

Osama who? Never heard of him.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,by their name{@ibrahim007}you go know dem,anoda TERRORIST ON THE LOOSE,abeg make we ignore the mad man,before him BOMB nairaland.

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Mallam's location is Hell. U can imagine his agony cos of the heat and he's venting his anger by abusing others. mallam, there's no way out for u, Allah threw u there not us. at least u're locating u can stil communicate via internet.

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@ibrahim007

I have no doubt in my mind that you are seeking for attention, and very unfortunately you woun't get it.

@Babyosisi and @davidylan well done for ignoring him.

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@ibrahim007,

I don't think that your slobber here was necessary. You Muslims really don't realize that unwarranted statements on people like that only help to feed ill-feelings with fellow discussants.

Without pretences, perhaps some of my posts may have fallen short of Muslim sensitivities. While I've tried to maintain balance (and still do), one cannot avoid discussing issues that we read of in Islam's holy books. Yet, I agree with you and most on the Forum, tha we should endeavour to be avoid unnecessary sparks in our debates.

Let's all endeavour to observe some modesty in debating very sensitive issues.

Cheers all.

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Telly B

nice question my guy,if you've noticed pretty well on this site that this LovePeddler that calls herself babyosisi talks poo,imagine her saying the holy prophet was poisoned by a woman with kaikai,so many of her talks towards the prophet is arrant nonsense,she's a damned Dam i wish i knew her.I like your question,and guy you r correct in every sense.

Nossycheek

gurl you should bi cultured first i think,u r nasty.How can i ignore someone that kips irritating me wit senseless talks.

mr pataki

guy access ur name and see you wants to pataki himself on nairaland,you r also among the chain of silly fellas on nairaland.you trying to defend an that doesn't know anything in her life than to criticize muslims,guy if you like babyosisi go toast am now why you defending her crazy n burnt Bottom.I know you r one of those guyz that want to earn attention on nairaland.Get sense learn from guys like SEUN,TELLY B,GAME,so many of em,u r silly in short.

somze

Guy why me now,wetin i do,why you dey talk like person wey 'em chain down watching 6 mad men gangbangin' ur gurlfriend.Please learn.This doesn't warrant for dat poo,pls learn.

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Crime and Punishment in Iran-http://www.trosch.org/moh/sharia-law.html

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Look carefully at what you posted and hide your head in shame.

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please ignore him, we give him too much relevance when we quote his drivel.

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My dear brother,you know belial always agrees with belial but when one with the Holy Ghost shows up,the demons start manifesting.

All hell breaks lose but thank God for the power to bind

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[center]WORD!!!!!!!!!!![/center]

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@babyosisi,

Something or someone in you must be agitating some demons somewhere. Do I here it is the holy Spirit?!

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my dear,the uncircumcised philistine is dying to make an impact on nairaland,let's notice him

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@ babyosisi,gurlz like you r too useless for my liking,instead of you to face what you have you still go about poking into another ppl's biz,its like a woman fornicating,you can never be faithful to your husband.BET IT WIT ME.

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honey,wherever you see seminars on how to acquire wealth,attend if you desire,it would benefit you generally regardless of your religion.

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