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Why Must We Complete A Form Before Seeing A Pastor?

When Jesus came to the earth,there was no place were we were told that,people complete forms to see him for either prayer or healing.But for our dear pastors before you can see any of them fo counselling,you will have to book and be given an appointment before you can see him,.Pls why is it like this?

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I will do that tomorrow ok getting tired

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bashy_demy,

abeg, I need your contribution to posts # 17 and 18 here: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-554674.0.html

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So are you saying the church are about competition?

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^^^ Guys, c'mon! If a church puts what it deems 'administrative measures' to ensure 'smooth running' in place, and you don't like it, just go to another church where you don't need to fill in forms to see the pastor. There are quite a few churches around!

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Well, not at all brilliant and not knowing a times joking is taking part rather serious discussion parted to dogma, but the dude must come to know as long as if he/she is staying long here.

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You're welcome peace maker. . . . hope, you didn't come with some suicide bomberz .

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pls stop quarelling and dont let us forget the Topic of this post.

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@ogajim

You can read 2 Corinthians 12 v 3-6 (kJV) . you can as well read the whole chapter for better understanding

4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

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Thank you my dear. . . . but , if you like shake your head, it isn't new we're ruling the world . please get it right SATAN time is now .

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Una go tire.

***shakes his head and feels sorry for them***

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my friend you don't know anything about me afterall , so don't say i claim . I was a proud atheist and i have the freedom to fly my identity where ever i find myself in the world. now , i have exposed to the very lifestyle every human being need , im a proud atheistic satanist and so far , im a member to so many new age organization--- our time is now and nobody can stop us.

here is france our team is working great to proof the world religion is wrong and expose their so called top secrets.

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You guys should stop decieving yourselves.

Every human being believes in something and what you believe in, is definitely ur god.

Like it or not.

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and that's why we have to do something about it because those guys are big disgrace to the world for cheating people in the name of virgin mary. . . .Jesus . . . .DOGS! and God (s) to extract money. too bad.

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I am interested in the Bible verse to support this " administrative doctrine" of yours

Matthew 15:7-9 (King James Version)

7Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

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God is a God of order.

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You ve spoken well,but i still believe its not proper to complete any form,the do this to boost their ego.

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Anytime i see or hear peple talking abt man of God am always being careful of what to say because pastoring is the work of God and all pastors are answerable to God and is only God that really know who among the pastor are serving him or doing his will.

Let stop castigating pastor about what they are doing if u know that any pastor is deviating from the bible, it is yr responsibily as a child of God to open bible to him and tell him what bible say not to come to a forum like this and start casting aspersion on them.

In Christianity there types of doctrine, we have bible doctrine and administrative doctrine, bible doctrine is a must for all xtain to follow irrespective of their denomination while administrative doctrine is peculiar to each denomination. You may not be able to trace administrative doctrine directly to the bible but it must not go against or contradict bible doctrine.

Example of administrative doctrine is complete the form b4 u see a pastor, data and information is very important for planning, somebody has giving the example of moses in the bible when his in law has to advise on him on division of labour. so also complete the form we enable the church to have information about the likely problem people are coming for counseling, have data on number of pple coming for such in a week or month or year so that the pastor will be able to schedule his activity.

However, the only problem is that if the motive behind it is for selfish interest then is left to that pastor and his creator.

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You are in d spirit brother.

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Easy what? cant you see how shes stretching out her arrogancy to me . . . JESUS or her PASTOR must hear this!!.

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Joegbaje,you are entitle to your own opinion

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All these irrelivant writings and post. Is it anybodys business. different churches have their administrative structures for different reason. if youre asked to fill form why not ask them the reason. why bring it here?.

I dont buy this form idea either but it non of my bussiness, the man is the one that knows his assignment.  but by common sense we should know that things are different now compare to the time of jesus. a pastor may ask them to do that for the people convineience so that he could know which matter is more urgent and to be abe to schedule proper time for their matters. he must not attend to everybody. imagine a pastor line up 500 people per day , when will he pray or study.

Acts 6:1-4

And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. [2] Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables. [3] Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. [4] But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.

Moses tried it before he almost cut his life short until his father inlaw intervened.

Exodus 18:17-18

    And Moses' father in law said unto him, The thing that thou doest is not good. [18] Thou wilt surely wear away, both thou, and this people that is with thee: for this thing is too heavy for thee; thou art not able to perform it thyself alone.

It only a man that knows his calling and be focus there[b]. JESUS NEVER COUNSELLED ANYBODY[/b]

A man that ask peope to fill form to see them still did better than the one that will not even give their matters attention

Luke 12:13-14

    And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. [14] And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

So my counsel is ,you go to the pastor in question and ask in humility for clarification on this matter if all these explanation are not sufficient to answer your curiousity

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For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity Ecclesiastes 7:6

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Nobody need that Guy's help my dear. . ., after all i didn't give him a slap and see no reason he has been hiding his Ugly face?, hehehehe. . . i remain on my ground and refuse to accept that so called careless thing into my Life.,Period.

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Make una leave ogaga alone oooo

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to separate the wolves (Terrorist) from the sheep

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May God save his soul.

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He is a devil worshiper for real.

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Do you mean he is joking sean?

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Ogaga are you just joking or you are realy for the devil?cos all your contributions on this thread make u sound like anti- christ.so are you just joking or?

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Ogaga come of it my friend

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hearing from u again is my pleasure,our pleasure? my dear,Life must sure be great Forevermore for those that knows what it takes,Fewer trouble?,No!,iw need to help if you permit me,Sean i tell you everything around me has been swimming with Success,Satan"myself"-has been so helpful in my life,franckly speaking there is Wealth,Riches,peace and Joy in Satanism.i can be a proud testifier.

peace & Love as always

Hailz!!!!!!!

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Even if the church members are over 100,000 worshippers,mind you is not all of them that will come and see the pastor at once, the ones that will come can sit in the church hall and be going to the pastors office one at a time. But come to think of it why do people go to pastors for counselling while they have their bibles to study,are the pastors saint? I have seen alot of homes that pastors have wrecked.

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It depends on how big the church is. If a church have a huge body of members then there is nothing wrong with filling up a form. If its quite the opposite then U can see the pastor directly.

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A fake pastor will need you to fill a form before you can see him so he can cook your stories ahead of your appointment. Can't remember people feeling forms to see Jesus. Some pastors have body guards, wonder why God's guidance/protection is not enough.

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its not necessary to complete any form,cos the house of God is to be opened to all at any time

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Ogaga,d guy is a pastor,so he need to choose his words.

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this is not a laughing matter.

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ogaga, I didnt ask for a sermon-no be church (or in your case, coven) you dey. You're saying nothing I havent heard before. You're not the only satanist in the world.

I posted the words of a song and asked you to peruse them.

That's all!

God bless you!

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ogaga,you are getting too harsh, are you a christain? cos it seems you have a problem with Jesus.

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ogaga,do you have any problem with me?

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