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Without The Existence Of God(Jesus) There Will Be No Atheist?

Those who believe there is no Jesus or God are religious because they have a believe in something

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Now back to the main topic:

It was G.K. Chesterton who rightly stated, "If there were no God, there would be no atheists." A thinking person will tell you that it's impossible to prove that God doesn't exist. Before someone can say, "There is no God," he or she needs to have all knowledge — because somewhere in the universe there may be evidence that God does exist. And there is, right under our noses. A building is proof there was a builder. A painting is proof there was a painter, and creation is absolute proof that there was and is a Creator. The question is, are you good enough to go to Heaven? Here's how to know: Have you ever lied (even once) or stolen (regardless of value)? Have you ever used God's name in vain, or had sexual thoughts about someone to whom you are not married? Have you ever hated someone? If you said yes to those questions, on Judgment Day God will see you as a lying thief, a blasphemer, an adulterer, and even a murderer. Jesus said, "Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart," and Scripture also says that if you hate someone, you are a murderer. This is the Bible's warning — if God gives you justice on Judgment Day, you will end up in Hell. Forever. Not believing in something won't make it go away. You need to be forgiven before that day, and because God is rich in mercy He made a way for you to be clean in His sight: "God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Jesus suffered and died on the cross, taking the punishment for your sins. He paid your fine in His life's blood, so that you could leave the courtroom. Then He rose from the dead and defeated death. Your death sentence can be commuted. Please, come to your senses— repent and trust in Jesus, and God will forgive you and grant you eternal life. Pray something like: "Dear God, please forgive my sins (name them). I turn from them and trust Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. In His name I pray. Amen." Then read the Bible daily and obey what you read (see John 14:21). Now go to www.livingwaters.com and click on "Save Yourself Some Pain."

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@Huxley: I see your reason for the Trinity and Christianity. What do you have for the M.su.lims? If you have nothing, then your mind is even more deluded than you can ever imagine delution.

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Does the mind that has been infected with religion make you laugh? Just see how convoluted and conflated the christian mind is,, with this idea of trinity etc. The is-lamic mind even more deluded.

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@Backslider: I hope the eyes of your heart are opened, soonest. You tend to be walking in the dark.

Yet as Jesus was asked about the hour, he said no one knew it except God. If he were ever God, he failed to seize an opportunity to declare his divinity here. But further you chickenly avoided the Mark 12 Verse 29 in your Bible which goes completely against your claim. You can not even explain in good conscience how Jesus was crying out to a God when he was on the cross. You are so confused and one human to another, I pray that God does not take your soul in this state of ignorance that you are in.

You make me laugh. It is even acceptable if I arrive in Ijebu Ode and declare myself as the Pakulopa of Ijebu Ode, a man who died some forty plus years ago. Afterall am his son. It could be excused. But to say that Jesus is God is the height of blasphemy. Jesus never claimed it for himself and many verses of the Bible are still ladenned with proofs that there is no way Jesus is more than just a human prophet/messenger/messiah to the children of israel, alone.

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@clearity

I have extensively dealt with the topic of however you wish to open a new thread please go ahead.

To me by scripture Jesus God and the holy Ghost are three person in a one Godhead

They are equal and yet one.

We worship the Monotheist God that has a trinity.

In hebrew there are different Use that refer to God(Jehovah)

I perceive you are a JW

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"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani." (Eli - pronounced like L and I in English) Utter the words - ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI; ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI,

"Eli, Eli," is not equal to "Jehovah

"Eli, Eli=God," does not sounds like "Abba, Abba!=father, father! in Hebrew)

Can't you see that the cry is to God? "Eli, Eli =Elah, Elah=God, God!"

Eloi =Eli=God then what is it in aramaic?

Father is not called Eli=Eloi in greek/hebrew and even not in aramaic

If you are not convinced open a thread with the title Is God=Father=Son? and let me educate you on that if you , but cares

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@Clearity

Please what is your question.

you seem to be loaded with something please outline them let me understand.

The Language spoken by Jesus was Aramaic.( Isreal were in capativity at that time)

Just as we had cornea greek spoken in the time of Jesus.

It was adultrated "jewish" Language.

Language is for communication.

Jesus was talking to a being in heaven.

He was talking to God the father.

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Do you remember your Gospel narrative, that when Christ was supposed to have been on the cross, he cried out with a loud voice:

"ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI? which is, being interpreted, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34).

The above is a translation from the Greek manuscripts "ACCORDING TO ST. MARK." Obviously his Hebrew has a Greek accent. Because, his so-called originals were written in Greek. But listen to Matthew, who is supposed to have written his Gospel originally in Hebrew, which was aimed at the Jews. St. Jerome, an early Christian father of the 4th and 5th centuries after Christ, testifies as follows:

"MATTHEW, WHO IS ALSO LEVI, AND WHO FROM A PUBLICAN CAME TO BE AN APOSTLE, FIRST OF ALL THE EVANGELISTS, COMPOSED A GOSPEL OF CHRIST IN JUDEA IN THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AND CHARACTERS, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE OF THE CIRCUMCISION1 WHO HAD BELIEVED."

Naturally, Matthew's accent would be more Semitic (Hebrew and Arabic) than that of Mark. Matthew records the same scene as Mark 15:34, but note the variation of the dialect:

Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI? that is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me'? (Matthew 27:46).

Please memorise the words - "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani." (Eli - pronounced like L and I in English) Utter the words - ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI; ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI, to your Christian friends and neighbours and ask them whether these words - "Eli, Eli," sounds like "Jehovah, Jehovah!" to them? No! is the answer if they are not deaf. Ask further, whether "Eli, Eli," sounds like "Abba, Abba!" (meaning father, father! in Hebrew) to them! Again the reply will be "No!" if they are not deaf. Can't they see that the cry is to Allah? "Eli, Eli - Elah, Elah, Allah, Allah!" Let them hear these words from your lips and watch their reactions. No honest per- son can help agreeing with you.

stop pretending am a believer without no prejudize

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@Olabowale

Jesus(God) cried to the Father(God)

GOD MAN

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33 ). He worshiped the Father (John 17 ).

He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8 ) He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5 ).

He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1) He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37 )

He is prayed to (Acts 7:59 ). He prayed to the Father (John 17 ).

He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15 ). He was tempted (Matt. 4:1 ).

He knows all things (John 21:17 ). He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52 ).

He gives eternal life (John 10:28 ). He died (Rom. 5:8 ).

All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9 ). He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39 ).

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@Backslider: Wouldn't your hypothesis be incorrect, since Jesus on the crossed cried out to God (not Jesus) about being forsakened? Do you care to explain who was Jesus crying out to, here if your Bible is even to be believed? Can Jesus be crying out to himself? Will that be a normal thing?

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Would you care to provide an argument?

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