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Is France An African/black Team?

I thought France is in Europe, a continent of white people. You would not have thought so if you have just landed from another planet. Eight black players out of eleven started for France today against Mexico. Don't white french boys play football?. The french are stealing players from Africa. What do good people in the house think?

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the french national team often has a heavy black presence when it comes to football/soccer. The blacks arent always african though. Many are from the carribean.

some years ago, i recall one or more french citizens took exception to that [it was in the news].

however, the french representation in other sports might not be structured the same way [ ie with a heavy black presence].

one has to check.

at the recently concluded eurovision song contest, the musician who represented france, was french congolese. That was the only black artist in the entire competition, i should think.

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That the only opportunity they have to shine,since their fatherland no appreciate them

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You guys are just confusing yourselves. The term English is used to describe someone of english ancestry(Ethnicity) and someone who is from a country called England. Here's a case scenario. If today Eastern Nigerians have a country and names theie country "Igbo" maybe because the largest ethnic group is IGBO. Efiks, Ibibios, Ijaws will all be classified as Igbos becaue that's the name of the country but that does not change their gene in any way. Meaning that does not make them part of the Igbo ethnic group.

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I can confirm these playes are English because at least they have an English blood with them. As for me, I have no drop of English in me.javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);

Now you have corrected yourself because you made a general commet in your previous post: So all the black players in the English squad are English because they were born in England.

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I brought up the FIFA rules because we were discussing football.

I never referred to you as English and so your annoyance is unjustified.

In the UK you are encouraged to state your race on application forms but the last time I checked 'English' was not a race

With those things out of the way, I understand your view but please understand that others don't see things from your perspective. You were born in England but your upbringing (which I assume was in Nigeria) and outlook is very much Nigerian and so you consider yourself one. However that is a vastly different view from a another individual who was also born in England to Nigerian parents and who also spent all their life in England, surrounded by English culture, food, people, educated wholly in England etc.

You have a right to identify yourself how you want but neither you or anyone one else has the has the right to lambaste a Black person who refers to themselves as English because that is all they know and feel comfortable with.

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France is a European team and is currently representing the UEFA in this World Cup, along with countries like Italy, Spain, etc.

The fact that their players are predominately of African descent (including former Zidane, an Algerian) may imply to non-followers of soccer that they are a "Black" team, but they are not, and do not compete in the African Nations Cup, nor CAF competitions.

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As a result of the poor performance by the majority of CAF teams in this World Cup, along with terrible referees from CAF in this World Cup, and bad officials of FA's of CAF, France might as well claim to be an African/Black team.

They have a bad coach, no team harmony, no team leader, bad preparations, qualified by chance, and play like the chickens on their emblem.

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This woman, you are still confused. Forget FIFA rules because it is artificial. If FIFA rule says you can play football with men, it does not make you a man. o.k. As I said earlier, Nationality is different from ethnic origin. I am a proud Nigerian man (yorubaman, to be precise) because both my parent hail from Nigeria. The fact that I was born in England does not change that fact. You are insulting me by saying I am english and that is why I am annoyed with you.

In the UK, you are encouraged to disclose your ethnic origin when making application for jobs, education benefits etc but you choose to ignore that fact though you said you live in UK.

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Yes I understand your perspective but with all due respect those are not the views of everyone. The current football England 2010 squad is a testament of that. The FIFA rules are very clear. One must be a citizen of country in order to represent it at an international level. However. . .

So all the black players in the English squad are English because they were born in England.

http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamBack/Eligibiliy.html

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Well, my definition of been English is when you are a real white man that has a deep root from the ancestors.

As for me an English man can not be Scottish even tho if he is born in England.

Like I dont see every American citizens as American, the real American are the Red Indies.

Of course the black British players are British but trust me on this, their root is from Africa, that's just the fact.

I believe black people originated from African, but things changed now, people are spread all over the world.Hope you understand what I mean.

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Thanks for that. I hope Mrs AngieFan British is listening. Now we can get back to the main discussion.

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There are two things here, been British and Been English

You can be British via birth or nationalisation but you cant be English cause English people are the real people that originated from that land (England) even before the slave trade. This applies to other continents. Lets us face the fact.

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Seun, It is called a brain drain, stealing another person resources. It is a BAD thing.

It is not only BNP that are racist. "normal" english people are proud of their origin. Listen carefully to their derogatory comments about Heskey compared to Rooney, who was absolutely useless against USA. I could go as back as Barnes/Lineker, Shearer/Les ferdinand. English don't praise Black sportspeople only their own. If you are not "english", you are nothing no matter how you tried.

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That hasn't been my experience. The white people who think that way are normally racist BNP types and I don't pay them any attention.

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Really? You need to know how English people preserve that word 'English' for white people only. If you are black, you can be British but not English. Hence my initial emphasis on "English".

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If these players can play football and are born and bred in France or England or are naturalized citizens of those countries then there is nothing wrong with them playing for their country.

You need to understand that these countries don't operate like Nigeria where a certain quota of the right ethnic group has to be met before a team can be formed.

Furthermore one doesn't have to be white to be French or English.

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Isn't this a good thing? It shows that blacks are capable of some things.

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I can forgive england in that Ashley Cole and Aaron Lennon are of mixed race. I mean at least they have english blood in them. But black players in France team are Africans and they are about 85% of them in the squad.

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My sentiments exactly.

I remember that in the world cup Michel Platini played last (Espana 82, if i can remember correctly), there was only ONE black player in the french team  - Jean Tigana who I beleive was of Malian descent.

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Not only France. How many black players are in England squad? I think I counted five in the last starting lineup against USA. That's an awful lot for the "English" team. Even Brazil.

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Are Walcott, Lenon, Ferdinand, Brown and Cole English?

If not what are they then?

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