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What Is Football Turning To?

I could remember in 1990 World cup, Roberto Baggio was the most expensive player in the world to that championship. He is a £7m player.

What is £7m these days?

David Beckham left United to Real Madrid for £24.5m

Louis Figo get to Madid for a whooping £38.7m

Shev goes to stamford Bridge for £30m

Zidane left Juve with a budden of over $66.

Alex fergusson fork out £30m for Ferdinand.

What amazes me is the price tags of these English players, most of them are average players but their price is overblown.

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1) What is Football turning into?

2) Does the price tag affect those players at all?

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of 'em trio - i giv it to GERRARD -

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Are you very sure? Do you mean Lampard, Gerrard and Chief Ballack shoot beans?

I've seen a nice one by Joey Barton also. Scholes is undoubted, I remember Rooney's against Arsenal too.

Meanwhile the comparison was between Lamps, Gerrard and Ballack, who's got the hottest shot?

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@ Christino.

Rooney or maybe Paul Scholes has the most powerful shot in the Premiership.

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FYI on ticket prices:

http://www.anr.uk.com/articles/i-2005-07-04-08-40-53.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4895330.stm

I'd stick with the bbc one though, the other one's kinda old.

Meanwhile, I pray Boro can disgrace the top teams again this season, with nothing to lose, and nothing to play for, no Europe, the carling cup will do.

I believe Liverpool will twack Chelsea this season, Bellamy my homegrown pacy boy will destroy chelsea's paper wall of course with the help of rebounds. Cech MUST drop those heavy shots from Gerrard but Reina/Dudek should also be ready to face hotter shots from one of my greatest ballers around - Ballack.

Come to think of it, who has the most powerful shot: Ballack, Gerrard or Lampard?

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Gerrard should be winning that with ease.

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@Christino,

London clubs are able to charge higher ticket prices than clubs in other parts of the country (particularly for corporate facilities).

Tottenham charges the highest ticket prices on Premiership games.

White Hart Lane ticket ranges from 55-70 pounds(face-value)

Chelsea FC is 2nd because they charge up to 35-60 pounds.

Peter Kenyon froze the prices around April and these prices will remain so for the next 3 years.

Man Utd charges between 23-38 pounds and i understand Arsenal will charge btw 32-66 pounds in their new stadium.

and Wigan is the lowest in the country as they charge btw 17-25 pounds.

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What's this i'm seeing here with ticket prices? I need more info, the last i know, the gunners charge the most exhorbitant ticket prices (understandable due to their tiny Highbury capacity) that should change now.

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its not a matter of they might be vulnerable,

they are vulnerable,

all teams are vulnerable,

and again anything is possible,

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@ Lordimpaq,

Chelsea rocks but they might be vulnerable this season.

Man Utd and Tottenham is the only visible threat to Chelsea for now.

I don't think Arsenal can surprise Chelsea cos the team needs serious rehab and Wenger is sleeping.

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@debosky

amen to that,

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they have the best players in england no doubt

but the best team? we'll see

Wenger just might beat them this season

the CL final is open to many interpretations though

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@deboksy the optimist,

If the referee had given that goal Barca wld have won by 3-0.or even 4-0.

Barcelona needed that early goal to get Arsenal outta their shells but the freak official sent Lehmann off instead.

Arsenal wld have bombed forward tryin to equalise and this wld have given Etoo and Dinho the needed time and space to cause havoc.

Chelsea might get it right this time.

I dont support Chelsea at all but i think they have the best team in England.

Will Wenger ever beat Jose's team? I dont think so.

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paul Scholes anyday, anytime,

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yeah i'll do the math, in the history of the premiership who has won more? arsenal or chelski??

boring tactics?? i guess you didnt watch Arsenal -Real, Arsenal -Juve, Arenal -Villareal last season, ONLY in the second leg against valencia did arsenal play 'boring' tactics, but please isnt this chelski the same boring boring chelsea we've been hearing about? how come their boring style hasn't won them the CL?

No one believed arsenal would beat Real or Juventus, y'all were predicting the death of arsenal.

even that CL final if the ref had used his sense and given the goal instead of sending off lehmann, we might be saying something different today

winning the CL takes passionate teamwork, and unity, not a band of highly paid mercenaries.

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Champions League is all about hardwork and a bit of luck.

Chelsea wld have reached the finals if they had played the same opponets Arsenal played enroute the finals.

C'mon Deboksy. Wld have Arsenal have defeated Barcelona if they had met in the Q-final stages or the 2nd-round.

Chelsea has been very unlucky with the draws and they might still meet Barca again cos they r yet unseeded.

Talking about Liverpool and Arsenal compared to Chelsea,

Liverpool did spend money cos Rafa brought in some spaniards, he bought Cisse and the likes.

Boring tactics got Liverpool to the finals and they were lucky to win Milan with penalty shoot-outs.

Arsenal also employed Rafa's boring tactics ans they also reached the finals last year.

The league table is the only true test to compare these teams with Chelski.

The table does not lie. Do the math and tell me the difference btw Chelsea and the 2 teams u mentioned.

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dude don;t get me wrong i said money can only get you so far, yes chelski have improved, but their money isn't enough to get them the CL cup.

has chelski with all their stars reached the CL final? NO

did liverpool spend anything close to what chelski spent in 04/05? NO but they won the CL.

an arsenal team with MASSIVE injuries and in rebuilding mode reached the CL finals, so again money doesn't get you victory on the biggest stage, maybe in the prem, sure cuzz man u and arsenal were in rebuilding mode.

Peeps have been saying Chelsea is europes 'most deadly' team for the past 3 seasons, from the time tinkerman ranieri was there. let them keep being deadly, while other teams win the cups.

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you hit home there,

now that's wat am talkin about, tell em debosky,

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now we bring up the issue of drogba again,

drogba did not live up his 22m signing, how many goals did he even score,

true he really assisted them a lot with the aerial strength, but that was not what he was contracted for,

he was contracted to score goals havin impressed when he was in marseille, pple expected more

i expected more, wat did i get[b], "makelele gets the ball he throws a long ball to drogba, drogba heads down and who do u know, lampard, shoots he scores, "[/b]

these my fellows is what we get,

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Mourinho bought Sheva and Ballack because his aim is now the UEFA champions league and not the Premiership.

Chelsea's bench of last season is capable of winning the title this year so Sheva was bought purposely to win UEFA and it aint about Drogba.

U r the only person that wont agree Chelsea has improved a great deal.

Has Wenger's team been able to beat Chelsea since Mourinho arrived? Hell Naaaaaaaaaah.

A team that accrued the highest points ever since the inception of Premiership has no spine?

Puhleeeeeeeeeazzze. Dont hate the West London club. They did somethin highly remarkable.

Chelsea has raised the standards and whatz left is for other teams to catch up.

Arsenal went unbeaten in 03/04 season with so many narrow-escapes. 26 Wins and 12 draws.

Chelsea had 29 Wins 8 Draws Lost 1 and conceeded just 15 goals in Mourinho's debut season.

This same Chelsea team was a guaranteed 3 points for Arsenal(home n away) before Mourinho's arrival.

The same Chelsea lost 7 matches and conceeded 30 goals the previous season before Jose's arrival.

Ma guy, Money has really helped Chelsea configure the most deadly team in Europe at the moment.

Who says money can't buy happiness?

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U seem to be missing the points like a NBA free-throw shots.

Don't delude urself to think Chelsea has no core.

Chelski has strength in-depth and the hunger to win at all costs.

Winning Premiership titles back to back aint no fluke.

Afterall, Wenger is still chasing this feat in spite of his acclaimed brilliance by his die-hard fans.

Furthermore, Chelsea has uniformity.

Mourinho hardly changes the spine of his team whether he plays a Man Utd/Arsenal or a conference league team.

In fairness, Jose has been lucky with team injuries as his players rarely go on a long injury-spell.

Cech-Terry-Makelele-Lampard-Drogba is the spine.

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dude the guys who carried real madrid were raul, casillas, salgado, guti. all those players didnt cost RM anything close to SWP or any of the other flops chelski have bought. they had a loyal, dedicated and passionate core, something chelski doesnt have and may never have (unless they change their ways)

what won man utd the prem was also a passionate core - giggs, scholes, keane, neville brothers, and ruud bwoy, not simply cash, veron and rio were minor factors.

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@deboksy,

If money cannot bring u success then what else can?

Man Utd won the premiership when they bought Veron and Ferdinand. Don't even argue that.

Real Madrid have been able to win Champions League in the 90's because they had the crop of the best players in the world.

How did Madrid get these players? Cash and lots of it.

Chelsea can win UEFA if they put their mind to it.

They have got the players and the team spirit is awesome.

The only snag about Chelsea is how they intend to keep those buncha millionaires happy on the bench.

If Mourinho can work the plot out, Chelsea is good to go.

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I remember real did, but also remember they had a team that had been together like 3 -4 seasons before that. remember morientes, raul, hierro, makalele, guti, salgado, casillas had all been together since 98/99 before these new additions. its this backbone that won them the titles in addition to zidane and figo.

chelski on the other hand dont have this backbone, most of the players, if not all are there for the money, period, not a true desire to play football, that is what i mean by the real team attitude/spirit

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of course u know am not talkin about cash,

they've got players to do it, if real madrid can, so wat stops chelsea,

bear in mind that when real splashed a lot of money on the duo of zidane and figo, they won the league and the champions league,

chelsea have won the league back to back except ofcourse the UCL which has eluded them, but they can win it, i'm not saying they will, i'm saying they can or may,

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well they might have what it takes in terms of cash to win it, but that will never be enough, they simply don't have the heart for it. maureen might, but most of the team is just like a set of paid mercenaries out to make a quick buck, teams with that attitude can only go so far.

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let them continue spending like that, they will fall like real madrid if they don't learn soon. man u also tried the big spending, buying veron and all that, it didnt get them anywhere. money can only do so much, no matter the cash spent,it will never win chelski the CL. mark my words

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chelsea can easily manipulate things because they've got excess cash and they are willing to get things done by all means cos they've got wat it takes (ca$h) to make a deal happen,

if u have a lot of money, u can go at any length to pay even thrice or even ten times as much because you want that thing, that's chelsea, only in this case, those things are human beings,

shevchenko is not worth that price, dats way too much,

do u think SWP is worth the 23m they bought him,, wat was the results, unproductivity, that cost him an england place in the world cup,

do u know dat if SWP was still in Man City he would have been in the England world cup squad, but no, he wanted chelsea and chelsea wanted him, who would resist a 23m pound offer, man city would readily accept, and they did.

yeah chelsea reeks of billions and everyone is aware that is what makes them jack up the prices of some players, because they know moneybags (ch£l$ki) would pay at any cost.

chelsea even went as far as placing a 70million dollar bid on kaka once and ronaldinho too, thats crazy,

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@ Lordimpaq,

What makes u think Chelsea over-price players?

Its not Chelsea that call the shots on prices but the team that wants to sell the player.

Chelsea reeks of billions and everyone is aware of this new development.

Every club thinks they can make fortunes outta Roman's army.

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@jackal.

u r forgetting something, during that time, clubs were buying players according to their worth,

now adays, teams like chelsea with their mega bucks overprice players, now, if u ask any hungry player(e.g. mikel obi), which club would like to play for? they all stupidly say chelsea,

thats how it is, its just like the nigerian government, its so corrupt and very easy to embezzle, right now, in the north

if u ask a ten year old child what he wants to be in future, they all say they want 2 become the governor or LGA chairman or something,

this sucks

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My point is clear and straight forward. what Arsenal(my team) achieved in decades, chelsea undeservingly achieved because of a rich tycoon from russia. there isn't an even playing field like what it used to be back in the days. I fthat wasn't bad ebough glazer comes in. Why can't business people just understand that soccer is a sport and not a nice way to make cash. The proper way to make cash out of football is by promoting your name through sponsorship. Every one knows that Chelsea are only mighty Chelsea cos of cash. But cash or no cash Arsenal we'll make em pay next season.

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its august 19 man, just less than 3 weeks away

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methinks if they don't win the CL next yr maureen may be out of a job, and that might signal the downward spiral of d club,

besides chelski aren't the only causes, i think real actually set off this 'cash rules' thing, with luis figo and zizou. those two worked and they won la liga one yr and the CL the next, but since becks, everything has been going downhill. hope the same thing doesnt happen to chelski ( or maybe i do?)

i can't wait for the season to start

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it can only go on for so long, if the FA or UEFA don't step in, it will all crash badly hurting the entire football system

a salary cap should be in place, even if its reviewed every 5 years or something

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@debosky

i agree with you that roman's millions have brought a change to the face of football which is a detriment to other clubs

i personnally feel chelsea are just bullying their way thru, but honestly there should be a cap on things, i mean,

is shevkencho worth the 44m,

is shawn wright phillips worth the money they bought him

is essien worth the salt?

but there's nothing we can do but to allow the russian run the show,

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lordi i disagree

chelsea pays much more than the players are worth (in my opinion), just because they have an 'endless' money supply in abramovich. they are creating inequities in the game which is not tied to football factors - performance/popularity. most of these american franchises (if not all) are run like biznesses, not just some rich benefactor doling out money (thats why the glazer's wd borrow to buy man u instead of putting their personal dough). by driving up prices inreasonably they are hurting the game. other clubs make income and trade based on that, thats why i don't like chelski's influence

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i think it's affected by the attention and dedication of fans n lovers of these sports in question!

fans will pay any amount to watch football mayches, b-ball? - pple are obsessed

how do u explain money mags buyin over a club? - he's ready to do anytin, pay any amount to make his team be d best - check out jay-z ownin NJ Nets, Roman and chelsea,

i just think alot of tins have changed and d worled world is changin with it, - sports not excluded!

the world economy also tell - i mean, baggio's 7million pounds is not today's 7 million pounds1

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I have already answered your questions.

The forbes list is based on the yeary income in wages, endorsements, commerical ads etc. between June 2005-June 2006.

Ronaldinho is currently 53($26m net income) on the list. Beckham is 43rd on the list($27m), and Kobe is 25th with $31m.

50 cent is 8th in the world with a net income of $41m. These figures fluctuate like London weather so we can't really hold on to 'em.

These NBA/NFL players are still on top of 'em football players because of their marketability and endorsements with various sport gears for ages.

Imagine Shevchenko was 22 years old and he continues to earn 140k pounds every week for the next 8 years. How long will it take him to overtake Shaquille and Kobe Bryants in the NBA?

U also have to look at it from the angle that Shaq and co have been around with these mouth-watering wages for so long.

Ronaldinho for instance was a nobody as at 7 years ago when he represented Brazil at Nigeria 1999 and Shaquille and Kobe have been earning mad cheddarz since then.

Ronaldinho is now above David Beckham as the most marketable player in the world but Beckham is loads richer than Dinho.

Footballers are fast catching up with the NBA/NFL players.

Check this scenario------------------

If Ronaldinho suddenly throws in a transfer request @ Barca, his buy-out clause will stand at $150 million.

Are u saying Roman Abrahamovic cannot go on this kind of spending spree and land Dinho?

How high on the Celeb list will Dinho go if this kind of scenario develops?

He will rise 20 steps above em Shaq and Kobe, innit?

Do the math.

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@ my2cents,

If Jordan gets $40,000 per game and he plays 4 games in a week then he gets $160,000 a week.

$160,000 a week is about £90,000 a week which is a far cry to what Rio Ferdinand(£120,000) gets every week.

Do u know Shevchenko will be paid £140,000 per week when the season starts in August?

Are u telling me Kobe Bryant/Shaq makes $270,000(£140,000 equiv.) a week on wages? Hell Nah.

No individual sports man makes as much as this figures in the whole USA so forget it.

Footballers wages have gone past your so-called NBA stars in recent times.

Don't get me wrong.

Tiger Woods, Shaquile O'Neal and Kobe Bryant are richer than the likes of Beckham and Ronaldinho but things might change very soon.

The rate at which this wages are growing is quite alarming with the way Billionaires all over the world are getting interested in Football.

There was a time Roman Abrahamovic wanted Ronaldo(Real Madrid) so desperately and he was ready to pay him £250,000(about $500,000) every week.

Isn't that crazy?

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@my2cents,

R u serious?

Who is the highest paid NBA/NFL player in the US and how much does he earns?

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I am personally not in favor of a cap, being the capitalistic man that I am. Besides, the money these guys are making is peanuts compared to what their fellow athlete mates are making in the NBA/NFL.

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Football is a big business.

I expect more mega-millions in the next decade if FIFA does not clamp down and put a cap on the wages a player can net.

These footballers are more or less hollywood stars these days.

The royal treatments meted out to players is amazing and the way people flock around 'em to get autographs is ridiculous.

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Football has change totally

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we all know English hooligans ever get to where they want.

wait and see Rooney leave.

It will cost some ones life to release him

Ferguson is making mouth about RVN when he dumped him

He should release him at whatever fee

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Good observation about the cost of English players. Go through BBC sport have your say, there was an argument there a while ago on why most of British top teams had virtually no English players, at the end it was discovered that most foreign coaches would prefer to buy foreign players who are better and cheaper than the English player.

Can you imagine Claude Makele and William Gallas being paid 40,000 pounds a week and flops like Frank Lampard are paid 120,000 pounds a week?

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In the past, pple played any sport whatsoever purely for the love of it. In fact, I think remember reading that back in the day, it wasnt uncommon for a player of any sport to revert to his regular job after a match.

Someone somewhere discovered the money potential and as capitalism dictates, the higher the demand, the higher the price. Either you sign a player and reap the benefits from TV rights to Tshirts to Higher attendance or someone else will.

England seems to fork out the most for the same reason the NBA or NFL does same in the states - economic freedom. Remove the fear of being investigated for the source of your wealth and the money will surely flow. Do you think Abramovich would be flashing around big bucks in Russia? I think not.

As always, my 2 cents.

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