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Who Do You Think Is The Best Football Coach In The World ?

if am asked to answer the question of who the best football is, my answer will definately be sir alex ferguson of manchester united.

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But you said coaches cannot win what they don't

compete in that Hitzfield did not win the winners cup

because he did not compete there.

If I hadn't raised this, you would have misled many

readers.

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Grasshoppers lost in the winners cup to eventual winners Sampdoria.

The fact that Hitzfeld spent 3 season in Grasshoppers unlike Fergie that spends ages in clubs without ambitions without winning anything

He went to Dortmund spent 6 years and built a UCL winning team in 6 years while Fergie spent 13yrs to win in United. Check it

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@ dayokanu

I'm one of those you can use a smoke screen

to cover facts from. I'm too experienced for

that.

Hitzfield coached Grasshoppers in the Winners cup

in the 1989/1990 season.

Don't tell me Grasshoppers is not big enough to

win a European title. Fergie did it with a Aberdeen.

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Capello won the league in Madrid and still left, Del Bosque won 2 UCL and still left, Milan sack their coaches everytime. Only an ambitionless club like Man Utd,

Auxerre and Assnal can leave an under performing coach for 22 years with 1 UCL to show. What Hitzfeld wins this year he is leaving that is the was clubs with

ambition act.

What has Wenger or ferguson won i their 15 and 22 years in their respective clubs nothing significant. just 1 UCL between the two of them in how many tries?

I just wish your employers knew what you did over the weekend. We can even start counting winners cup.

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They say there are 2 types of coaches in football. Those that have been sacked and those waiting to be sacked. There are 2 coaches that make up a third group of coaches Sir Alex Ferguson and Prof. Arsene Wenger, It is not easy to be the coach of a team as big as United or Arsenal and stay at the helm of affairs for over a decade, talkless of 2 decades or more. to me these guys are undoubtedly the best coaches in the world by miles. with Ferguson just edging Wenger. I know if Wenger had been in charge of Arsenal since 1986 he would definitely rival Fergie and match him trophy for trophy.

Please note that i a Manchester United fan, but when truth needs be told, it has to be told irrespective of club affiliation.

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Tkb

erm,it seems u know dayo beta than i do.So i'll hav to ask u if hes mentally sound b4 i resume talking to him.

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Tkb

erm,it seems u know dayo beta than i do.So i'll hav to ask u if hes mentally sound b4 i

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Tkb

erm,it seems u know dayo beta than i do.So i'll hav to ask u if h

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Ferguson or Scolari, Wener or Aime Jacqui, benitez or Pereira,

Look, I'm from the streets where the

hood could swallow a man, bullets'll follow a man so watch your mouth/back

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What has Gabros won and what has Barcelona won? compare the two cabinets in their different leagues and continents and ask someone to reason for you since you cant do it on your own

SO who is better SAF or Bianchi, who is better Boca juniors or Manchester United.

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@ Ritchboy,

Trying so hard to be silly wont work. What has Christian Chukwu won in his coaching career. Rather check who is better Carlos Bianchi and SAF playing in South America and Europe respectively. And have won things in their careers.

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Fergie has won more Winners cup than Hitzfeld 2-0. How do you expect Hitzfeld to win winners cup when he did not coach a winners cup side?

Has fergie played UEFA cup before? I doubt. while Hitzfeld is competing in the UEFA cup now. So how can I judge them based on UEFA cup?

The only tournament they both play together is UCL and that is the most logical and valid basis of judgment

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SAF has won in europe more than Shitzfield. . .exactly my points

u gerrit?

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That mean a coach that wins 5 carling cup is bigger than one that wins 2 league since you dont want any categorisation of cups

5 carling cup is better the 2 UCL? Just confirm if thats what you mean.

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Perhaps we cant tel who the beta team is between barcelona and gabros because theyve neva played each other. . . . And if they do play each other and gabros win then theyre a better team than barcelona.

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@akinalabi,

The logic behind using the UCL as the only credible yardstick can not be faulted cos that is the only competition all top clubs in Europe get to play in to determine the Best team/club in the continent. So number of Intercontinental cup, super cup, Local leagues, FA cups are very inconsequential when determining the best club and coach in the continent.

ONLY the UCL counts check the various coaches of the year award, The UCL winners are most of the time more regarded

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I rest my case.

At least for now.

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@Akinalabi,

The best way to compare clubs across borders is to use continental trophies I can't expect Liverpool or man Utd to win Scudetto, La Liga or bundesliga more than Milan, Juve, Barca, or Munich and vice versa. SO UCL trophies is the best way I think you can compare them. So you understand why I use UCL trophies to rate Liverpool ahead of bayern?

For clarity Liverpool is a better club than Bayern. We were better than them till that fateful night in Istanbul

I dont rate clubs with their local titles otherwise Celtic and Juventus would be the best in Europe.

I judge clubs and coaches on a level playing ground I can't judge Scolari with club accolades cos he does not have and I can't judge Mourinho with national team accolades cos he doesnt have So judge a club coach separate from a national team coach. Onigbinde has been to the world cup before and bENITEZ NEVER so who is better? No basis for judgment by my own standards

@lai-lai,

I kind of like Barca too because of my dislike for real (albeit with a lot of respect 9 UCL no be joke)

A lot of people would come here saying a lot of nonsense rating a club/ manager based on Carling cup, local league, young players, unbeaten run e.t.c rather than using the right criteria which is the greatest club trophy - UCL

Mourinho would bring too much media attention to Bayern we already have our own share of the attention already remember FC Hollywood tag.

bayern is coming back with a bang!! They have the French footballer of the year in their midst, The best german players- Klose and Lahm, Italian number 9 who broke Serie A scoring record 2 years ago and a lot to come. so try to win the UCL this sason because next season's UCL trophy is already taken

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@dayokanu

i'm a barca fan, u sound like a cool guy, but u argue blindly sometimes, u should stop looking at things from one direction and fixing YOUR own criteria evrytime, i like bayern though, they were my team on all football-related games during the elber-effenberg-scholl-jancker days, they'll need to spend some more money if they are too catch up now, they are still surely an heavyweight in europe, what i like about bayern now is that they are one of the new clubs where former world-class players who have acheived everything possible(beckenbauer, rummenige, hoeness) are the ones running the club, thats really nice, i think i'll prefer mourinho for you guys

@jackal

i know how u feel about dayokanu but try not to get too frustrated, its just an argument, its what football is about

@akinalabi

nice points,

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@ Akinalabi,

Dayo will not ANSWER that question . . . .

He is a beast.

@ Dayokanu,

U are a pillock.

In the last 15 years, Milan still won the Scudetto 5 times.

Matter of fact, they won it 3 times on the BOUNCE . . . . so how can u compare the same scenario with Liverpool?

The only time Liverpool came near the title was when they came 2nd in 2001/02 in the LAST 15 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are u this spastic?

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Don't add "per UCL wins".

Is Liverpool a greater club that Bayern?

You can't wriggle out of this!

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How many times have AC Milan won the league in the last 20 years compared to Juventus so tell me who is better?

Rabid Jackal.

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Then u are A BIGGER FOOL than i thunk if u think Liverpool is better than Bayern Munich.

A club that has failed to win the league for the past 15 years CANNOT be better than Bayern that won it EIGHT TIMES in the same PERIOD!!!!!

Are u this dumb?

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Sure Liverpool is a greater club than bayern Munich per UCL wins. I have never denied that.

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I'm finding it difficult to understand you.

Using your UCL analogy, Liverpool is a greater

club than Bayern.

Let me get that first.

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@ Dayokanu,

U are still a FOOL no matter how u disguise your inadequacies.

English clubs crave for the Premiership more than the UCL cos they get paid humungously winning the EPL than the UCL.

Benitez will be sacked if he fails to land the EPL this season . . . .

Winning the EPL is 50 million quid, Relegating in the EPL is worth 30 million, Winning the UCL is 27 million.

If u are not a pillock, u should know which one carries more weight, u sonofabitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Naturally everyone wants what they don't have. So Mancs are more concerned about winning EPL than winning UCL? Well Ambitions differ from clubs to clubs while Milan,

Madrid amd Munich are bent on UCL scummites wait for EPL. Mourinho won EPL could not win UCL In Chelsea verdict : Was Sacked. Benitez won 1 UCL could not win EPL

Not yet sacked. This shows you which one has more weight.

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@ dayokanu

If you ask any hard core Liverpool fan what he

wants. THREE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE IN A ROW

OR ONE PREMIERSHIP?

They will go for ONE PREMIERSHIP!

If you know any "real" Liverpool fan, ask him.

Liverpool fans can diss United fans over UCL

tiltles and why not? Fans diss other fans over

what they have more than the others.

QUEENS PARK RANGERS FANS still diss Man

Utd fans up till today. The last time they met,

QPR walloped United.

I met a couple of West Ham fans at Old Trafford

on the last day of last season. Despite the fact

that they managed only to escape relegation

and United became champions, they dissed United

all through and refused to accept them as

Champions because they did a double over them

Whatever the scousers chant don't matter.

I repeat, ask any Kop, what do you want?

The premiership or the champions league?

We all know the answer.

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Mou delivered The EPL twice in 3 years a better record than Faggotson right? but his inability to win the UCL dented his achievement while in Chelsea.

The UCL is more important than the local trophies. How many Scuddeto has Milan won under Ancellotti? A coach that wins UCL is much more regarded than any

local laurel winning coach Thats why nobody regards Lyons coaches despite the loads of local titles but Ancellotti won UCL trophies and he is highly regarded

more than those Lyon coaches.

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@ Dayokanu,

If STUPIDITY is selling at 1 pesewa each, u are a trillionaire in GB POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your breath, sweats and odour reek of the best quality of STUPIDITY.

Rafa will be sacked if he fails to deliver the Premiership this season . . . .Thats a known fact.

Benitez might have won 50 UCL but that cannot save his job.

Man Utd made money as EPL champions than AC Milan that won UCL so u can shove the HOLY GRAIL up your asses.

Blimey. . . . Sheffield United made more money RELEGATING in the EPL than AC Milan who won the UCL so u can draw your inference.

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dayokanu, so u are a bayern supporter, no wonder, u should have told me earlier

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There is no thing as big as winning the UCL with first timers Dortmund. Despite all the money Mourinho had in Chelsea he couldnt win UCL . Same with gooners

He had to instill a winning mentality into Dortmund who have never won before.

TKB,

Hitzfeld is better in the UCL which is the best and biggest trophy in club football.

Hitzfeld cant win winners cup because cos he never got to play in it.

Real and AC are the biggest team in Europe why? The number of winners cup? or Super Cup or Intercontinental? Obviously not The NUMBER OF UCL TROPHIES stands you out.

Juve, Inter, Barca and Valencia have won 3 UEFA cups; Barca has won 4 Winners cup but just 2 UCL whilst Real, AC, Bayern and Pool have won less UEFA and Winners

but are all bigger than Barca figure that out jerk!!!!

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@holy thug

that is a very funny name,

can a thug be holy, ??

nice one there by the way,

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but 4get it morinho was a very good coach

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@ Akinalabi,

There's nuthing to draw here. . . .

Fergie beats Shitzfeld hands down.

Only an like Dayokanu would say Shitzfeld is a better manager than Ferguson.

Thanx for even letting us know Ferguson has won more EUROPEAN TITLES than Shitzfeld.

I started RESPECTING Ferguson when he broke into the "Auld Firm" schitzo in Scotland . . . . .

Winning the Scottish league with Aberdeen is like Sunderland winning the Premiership and silencing Arsenal/Man Utd/Chelsea.

Ferguson is god.

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Once again, let's compare the trophies both Sir Alex

and Ottmar Hitzfeld have won so the neutrals can draw

their own conclusions.

I reckon that is better than talking from morning till

night. If anyone says Hitzfield is better with this record,

so be it.

League Tiltles

Hitzfeld: 10 times. 2 with Grasshoppers, 2 with FC Basle, 2

with Borussia Dortmund and 4 with Bayern Munich.

Sir Alex: 12 times. 3 with Aberdeen and 9 with Manchester United.

Champions League

Hitzfeld: 2 times. 1 with Borussia Dortmund and 1 with Bayern

Munich.

Sir Alex: 1 time. With Manchester United.

Intercontinental Cup

Hitzfeld: 1 time. With Bayern Munich

Sir Alex: 1 time. With Manchester United

European Super Cup

Hitzfield: Zero.

Sir Alex: 2 times. 1 with Aberdeen, 1 with Manchester United

European Winners Cup

Hitzfield: Zero.

Sir Alex: 2 times. 1 with Aberdeen, 1 with Manchester United

Domestic Cup (Called FA Cup In England)

Hitzfield: 5 times.[/b]1 with Aarau, 2 with Grasshoppers, 2 with

Bayern Munich.

[b]Sir Alex: 9 times. 4 times with Aberdeen and 5 times with

Manchester United.

Like I said, neutrals can draw their own conclusions.

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@ Dayokanu,

Jose Mourinho spent 300 million pounds and lost the Prem title last season.

Whats more? He lost to Boro, Spurs and Liverpool so does that mean he is not a good manager?

Are u this idiotic? How many teams has AC MILAN lost to this season? Does that mean Ancellotti is a wack manager?

I have told u times without number that ur IQ is functioning on a single digit IQ . . . .

Matter of fact, i will place ur IQ below 5 which is equivalent to that of a cockroach.

Most local laurels? Hahahahaha I am having a laugh.

He has won more continental and intercontinental titles than Shitzfeld?

Ferguson has won everything in club competition . . . . .He is miles better than Shitzfeld even though Mr Shitzfeld won 2 UCLs.

He has 9 league titles in 15 Premiership season . . . . . the closest to him is Wenger with 3 titles.

Comparing Fergie to Shitzfeld is an insult to the Scot . . . . .

Ma advice: Tell Shitzfeld to come to OT and learn under Ferguson.

While you are it, stop smoking ur woman's pubic hair . . . . .Seems u smoke lice with the hair and its making ur mouth dribble fuckery.

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Bottomless resources

fergie spent Millions on players Nanny, Anderson, Hargreaves, tevez he has not business losing to City, West ham and co. No doubt Faggotson is the coach with

most local laurels but Trophies that matter are scant in his cabinet. Thats why the fans are so frustrated that after all that signing that is the best they could get.

Man Utd are on the trail of Ladan Bosso to take over from the ailing, senile, cud chewing self acclaimed gay.

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@ Dayokanu,

U are a bloody ninny.

So u want to compare the bottomless resources Jose had when he joined the Prem to what Ferguson had in 1986?

Its now official, u are the dumbest sonofabitch on this forum.

What should one expect . . . . .rational thinking is impossible with a slowpoke like u.

Ferguson is the most successful coach in the world.

He has the highest collection of titles in the world and managers are judged on the number of titles they have won.

Hitzfeld joined Bayern in February and he couldn't take the team to the UCL . . . This gaffer must be good.

What is to say Shitzfeld would win by MAY 2008?

You are so spastic its not true . . . . .The only word that fits ur behaviour in the last 30 days is . . . . LUMMOX.

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@ TKB,

What is the rationale for putting SAF ahead of Hitzfeld if I may ask obviously not for any logical reason.

Those who would win the league would be known at the end of the season Agreed But why are the fans at OT so disgruntled. Man utd is so boring to watch the fergie had to complain.

@ The most exciting league it has never been the most competitive league when the top 4 are as predictable as December 25 would be Xmas.

Hitzfeld joined Bayern in February and at the end of the year bayern is topping the Bundesliga. In his European night he eliminated Real Madrid for the umpteenth time

What has faggotson done in 22 years winning that local trophy. mourinho came there and won it at first attempt what he could not do in Portugal to show how competitive the EPL is.

Jackal I still maintain, go and take your anti rabies shot you have been avoiding that stuff for the past 8 months

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seun will b a good 1 if he was a coach

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Those who will win the league will be known by the end of the season, not when its half way.

are you insane or what?

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by what Akin Alabi has posted, my verdicts

1) Marcelo Lippi

2) SAF

3) Hitzfield

Lippi cos he has won everything!!!

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@ Dayokanu,

Its official: You are the biggest schlepp on this forum with ur moronic and spastic comments.

I cannot phatom out why a big-headed monkey like u can spew all these fuckery----you must be an autistic patient.

For Bleep's Sake . . . . .How can any say Hitzfeld is a better manager than Ferguson or Marcello Lippi. . . . are u insane?

Shoot!!!! Shitzfeld was recruited last season to help Bayern secure UEFA Champions league slot, and he FAILED to secure it.

Let it be known he had 4 months to turn things around but the couldn't . . . .Lil wonder he is leaving in May . . .His tactical acumen is Zilch.

Just because he won 2 UCL titles doesn't place him above Ferguson, Lippi or Ancellotti . . . He is the weakest amongst em elite managers.

Ferguson's title haul is the best by a thousand miles . . . .show me any manager that has won more titles than Fergie and i will end this convo with u.

SAF won and won and won and he is still winning . . . .The only manager that stood and broke Chelsea's dominance in the EPL.

Comparing individual head to head between Shitzfeld and Fergie even shows your brain is functioning on a single digit IQ.

Alan Curbishley has beaten Ferguson 3 times in a row with West Ham . . . .OMG, Curbishley is better than Fergie.(thats the way u sound).

Lemme know the outcome of your psycho-evaluation test . . . .U bloody nincompoop.

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@lai-lai,

Rumour has it that Bayern are on the verge of naming Marcelo Lippi as their coach according to the Italian Media. That shows a club with ambition

see

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=533523

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@lai-Lai,

Okay rate them the way you want and they would always be in that order UCL is the best and biggest club competition in Europe.

I mean Man Utd, Juventus, Inter would always be behind the big boys, Real, Milan, Liverpool, Bayern, Ajax etc

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i can see u are really obsessed with the champions league,

so who made the classification 1st rate - 4 trophies, 2nd rate - 2 trophies, let me guess - u abi?

psychologists say people make abstract classifications to make themselves feel better about things they feel other people are ignorant about, i too do it sometimes so i can understand why u rate them such, its all good

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Check the number of Champions league all of them have won and you would see what makes an elite club at least 4 trophies. and what makes a second rate club 2 trophies

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@ lai-lai,

Blasphemies?? Can you point to one statement that is not true? man Utd is a good club probably one of the best among the second rate clubs in European football. The elites are Madrid, Milan, Liverpool, Munich and Ajax. These are clubs very rich in history and tradition check the players that have played for them. The second rate are Barcelona, Inter, Man Utd, Juventus, Benfica, Porto, e.t.c

Madrid- Zidane, Figo, Puskas, Di Stefano. etc

Milan - Van Basten, Gullit, Maldini, Baresi e.t.c

Pool- Keegan,

Munich- Beckenbauer, Gerd Muller, Matthaus, Rumminegge etc

Ajax- Cryuff, Neeskens, Rijkaard e.t.c

LEGENDS

Lippi is a good coach a very good one. I still maintain a coach can only win the world cup if he coaches a national team why should Mourinho, Hitzfeld, Benitz and Ancellotti leave their plum club jobs for the national team. I cant expect perreira, Scolari or berti Vogts to win the Champions league. Would you say Onigbinde is better than Wenger because the former has coached at the world cup? You would only use the right Barometer to measure each coach.

I repeat Lippi won the world cup and he deserves respect for that, but you can only table his club performances when you want to compare him with other club coaches I remember Lippi winning in Juventus and left for Inter spent millions in Inter(Vieri for a world record fee) and couldn't win anything when he was interviewed by the press He was asked what would he do if he was the owner/management and he replied that he would sack the coach 24 hours later he got sacked.

I know so much about Lippi he got to 3 UCL finals consecutively so dont think I dont know him but comparing him to Hitzfeld , he is a shade behind.

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