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Is Living Abroad Worth It?

I have applied for UK visa 6 times and they've refused me. I just say make I dey go come go come o.

Imagine oo, this UK embassy likes people that feed them with false information and those are the people they give visas.

Anyway, na so so suffer some people dey suffer for there o, because they would have used all their money to pay for one tax or the other.

My close friend called me last week that she wants to come home finally because she is tired. Some of my friends are complaining as well.

Is suffering abroad worth it or [is] living in your father's land as a king [better]?

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I just found information that is well aligned to my surmisal on Naija people's salaries.

Data shows, of the 30.5m people working in the UK:

- 0.1% earn £500K+ per year.

- 0.6% earn £200K+ per year.

- 1.1% earn £150K+ per year.

- 2.2% earn £100K+ per year.

- 8.9% earn £50K+ per year.

- 27.5% earn £30K+ per year.

As black people are not on per career-wise, less than 27.5% of them can earn more £30K a year. Hence average wage in these race group will be well below this. Maybe about £18-20K.

This also works for the top earners/professionals, the top 10% in the country would be making £48K+, for blacks, this top level is where their performance is even more visibly limited, so I expect them to make far less than this £48K and more likely in the 30Ks.

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Tell your friends to stop doing 419 here and find something useful to do, that is if you care about them. yes i'm in the UK

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sorry am not in nigeria, but am just saying this based on what i observed, seems u re in uk?

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nnachi! nnachi! nnachi! please shut it and stop talking rubbish, you are in Nigeria and sending money to your 'friends' in the UK? What are your 'friends' doing here? Obviously you know nothing about the UK, ur friends are here doing 419 and that is all you know about the uk

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oh, so sorry maybe u re in uk but am telling u the fact, i have many friends there that i sent money to frm here so i know everything about uk cos i have been there once,

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Please keep mute if u got nothing sensible to say.

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cute but living in uk doesnt make sence cos u cant make enough cash there unless ur a 419,

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@topic n poster

LIVING IN UK/ABROAD IS WORTH IT

hang in there

my immediate jnr bruv tried 6x too and was reFused

it was frustrating 4 me n him cos every1 else in my family got

their UK visa @d 1st attempt or 2nd at most

but he was given d 7th time - @ LAST!

he's been to the UK in 2006 n 2007 now

just visiting n working temporarily if he gets some1's papers

2 work with then returns to 9ja b4 visit visa expires/uni resumes

i dont need to spend much to get a UK visa for

any member of my family

and any1 else i care to help get a visa

been there done that sooooo many times

just brains, good bank account (mine most of d time) and good documents

ps

i'm not advertising ohhh

just responding 2 d poster/topic

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It all depend on what you intend doing when you get to uk or any part of the developed world,but its not as easy as you think,its true that you cant leave in most of the countries in europe without speaking their language that's what they call intergration of foreigner .

My friend i will personally advice you to stay back home and settle down to what you do best

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Dem no dey seize light abroad oh !!!!

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If you can make it in Nigeria, Forget, you can make it elsewhere. Naija is one of a kind

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Not until my Broda proves it. He has been in Abroad with nothing much to Prove show 4 it.

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Well i don't know about going to places like Vietnam and all that, but i think some people just want an easy life without going through the struggles of life and will just settle for less.

Abuja hasn't just only improved its overall serenity and cleanliness, but at least you could say it provides more security for its people as compared to what it was a few years ago. The standard of living has overall improved immensely as well.

I can bet you that countries like Rwanda, Malawi, Mozambique, Niger, Togo and many more are not better off than Nigeria as a whole, however, you don't see their nationals flooding countries overseas. Zimbabwe is understandable.

Isn't it funny how Nigerians abroad obey all they rules, and as soon as they are back home, they break all the rules. Then we talk about the many problems with Nigeria and why we have to run away. There's a word for that "contradiction".

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I actually think living abroad is probably worth it. Mind you, I live right in Nigeria.

Normally, I like to defend Nigeria, and the way of life here. But, truth be told, I know way too many people whose lives were heading for the rocks, until they decided to make a break for it abroad. Legitimate or illegitimate is moot. Nigerians are picking up the pieces of their lives, even in places like China and Vietnam. Why would a Nigerian want to run away to Vietnam?

Things are actually not good at home, for the vast majority of people. Only a few are even experiencing a semblance of a decent lifestyle. Health and education is a mere joke. I know someone who even went to Angola to do masters. Angola!

If living abroad was not worth it, you would not be seeing threads like 'Should I run away to Turkey or take a job of 100k?'

I am not sure this guy got the point. The chaps sitting in far countries, they ran away from Nigeria. They are also victims of the state. So it's not really their fault.

Only time will tell if those guys you mentioned (I presume Fashola and El-Rufai) are really changing anything, or applying pankcake makeup to a sore-infested face. What is not needed is planting flowers etc. Social empowerment is the only thing that can bring about true change.

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Well all you guys sitting afar in other countries, if you did come back to Nigeria and made an effort to improve the country maybe things would be better in the future.

The much maligned Nigeria in its current state is still better off than a handful of countries in Africa and around the world. We just need to right the numerous wrongs.

The same way the past FCT minister was able to improve Abuja, or in which the current Governor of Lagos is improving the his state, will be the same way we will get new leaders that will improve the state of the country. Just need time and patience.

However, we need to change our ways and stop being benighted, nescient, lazy and devious.

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d devil u know is beta dan d angel u dont know.

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Truth be told; If you don't have papers then abroad isn't for you. Everyone here isn't cut out to live here. Home is where the heart is. Abroad is home to me and Nigeria has nothing to offer me. If you feel abroad isn't for you then move back home!

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first to answer your question! YES! (for me) Secondly and if I may ask, why will you apply for one country's visa 6 times? is it a life or death thing? anyway don't really need your answer!

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Well you thought wrong unless you are highly qualified(degree, masters etc) in a relevant subject(engineering,medicine,it etc) you'll just be living in slavery, from hand to mouth. there are lots of protocols you have to follow to own a car which involves money, and if you use light and water you have to pay bills for them. If one is living comfortably in naija i suggest they stay there and start a biz or get more qualifications b4 travelling. nuff said

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Post by Anabel,

Quote from: victichy on Yesterday at 06:00:05 AM

As for now I dont think living abroad is worth it. Cause we are been placed on "watch"

God I love Nlander, they know how to think, well dnt plan on living abroad for now cos I wanna hustle here and when I make it, dem no go look my face twice before dem give me Vis and personally, I don't like UK

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I DONT LIKE THIS, I DONT LIKE THAT,

I DONT LIKE MAC-DONALDS, I DONT LIKE BURGER-KING BUT I LIKE SUBWAY!!!

AND U KNOW WHY I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TASTED ALL THREE AND MADE

A PERSONAL CHOICE TO STICK WITH ONE!!!!

IF U LIVE IN NIGERIA AND HAVE NEVER ABROAD U CANT STAY U DONT LIKE THIS OR THAT

COUNTRY UNTILL U HAVE LIVED THERE AND BY LIVING, I MEAN LIVING IE WORKING OR DOING BUSINESS THERE

NOT COMING FOR A SHOPPING HOLIDAY LOL!!!

IF U DONT KNOW U JUST DONT KNOW, ANOTHER THING I SAW WHEN IN NIGERIA

WAS THAT WE LIVE IN A BUBBLE AND IGNORANCE IS BLISS!!!

AS A POSTER SAID U CAN LIVE ANYWHERE AND BE SUCCESSFUL AND ENJOY LIFE,

LETS JUST WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND DONT BE HATING ON ANOTHER PLACE OR COUNTRY!

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s Living Abroad Worth It?

Hmmmmm let me see

why dont we ask the 300,000 Nigerians living in the UK

or the 1 million plus nigerians living in the united states!!! lol!!!!

DUMB QUESTION!!!!! NEXT!!!!

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You can live anywhere in the world and still make it. The determining factor is GOD and YOU. The environment might not be ok sometimes but its wht u r made of tht eventually makes u a success .Wherever u find urself THINK BIG, work hard and PRAY hard!

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He isn't making it horrible - he's simply saying, don't believe people who say you can earn $5 per hour and live big. Many people do reverse calculations and get in trouble $5 per hour means $40 per day and $1000 per month, which equals 150,000 naira. People forget they are not spending money in Nigeria but where they are living!

You will only get by on minimum wage - unless that's all you want to do, don't leave a reasonable job in Nigeria to 'manage' abroad.

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To Some----YUP!!!!

To Some----NOPE!!!!

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I guess living overseas is only worth it if the person is doing something worthwhile and is making good money. At the end of the day, I think living in hardship overseas is better than in Nigeria. No matter how poor a person is, they would probably be able to own a car, have access to power and water (I think).

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U are absolutely right, minimum wage can pay ur fees and rent here IF u are hard working and buy only what is needed.

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God I love Nlander, they know how to think, well dnt plan on living abroad for now cos I wanna hustle here and when I make it, dem no go look my face twice before dem give me Vis and personally, I don't like UK

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As for now I dont think living abroad is worth it. Cause we are been placed on "watch"

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That is not true! I actually lived on minimum wage at one time and I hate it when people make it out to be so horrible. It all depends on individuals and choices made. Some people live good enough lives on minimum wage. Ask indians and Chinese individuals who come here, live in groups and save up to get themselves better lives later on. I had a roommate myself and so the burden was not as bad.

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Not a lot, but I am just using that as an example to state the truth that minimum wage wont last you that long in the western world. In California, it's like 8 dollars and some cents which is like 250 a week. After paying your rent and food, you barely have enough left

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How many ppl earn that much in Naija?

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I don't think they are negligible. I know enough Nigerians earning mad pay for various engineering/IT companies.

There are many jobs still doling out £250-£600 a day in the Citeh and Nigerians are on to them like a rash.

U need to change the kinda peops you roll with jor [b][/b]

I beg connect me o!

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There are to ways to it,if you are genuinely qualified you should/would be granted visa,however stating a case of people suffering in the UK is a no go area as it portraits you as a loser life is not all it seems,sincerely if you see 9ja GUYS SUFFERING IN THE uk,FEAR GO GRIP YOU AS SOME OF THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF,M y boss came back from the UK after 12 years with really noting much to show and he is a citizen,you have to be highly skilled to enjoy leaving abroad,In Nigeria there are so many opportunities around you,you just need to see it,from what i am seeing here you are blind to all this, question: what are you going to do in the UK(wash toilet,PEKE,Street boy,or Jagba)

What is your qualification, As i have come to realize Nigeria is tough but Nigerians are tougher,i don't know the spirit that lives in you,but i am a goddamn winner, Thus if you still fancy travelling abroad,you can try Libya,Morocco,south-Africa,Zimbabwe, or follow the desert to Spain, you need to see to believe.

In Nigeria you need to be proactive and dont look at anyone for help try and be a born huzzler, Then the sky is the limit.

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have beautiful ppl in Niaja that i wouldnt wanna miss. There no Place like home! dont be deceived about those beautiful Places u see.  or things u think u enjoy. We enjoy here as well. none of those things are in the village but i enjoy may stay whenever I go there. If u have money u will be comfortable here.

I would prefer going abroad for business and holidays. Going n coming back. Can b a slave 4 the in the name of being Abroad or making money.

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I'd rather make 200k a month and live in Nigeria than to make 5.80 pounds and live in UK.

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i feel for this guy, trying for a visa of any country can be tasking,being refused is another hell hole, when d main purpose of travel is genuine. but then as to Ur question, if living abroad is Worth it. it all depends, how u look at it, everyone thinks going abroad is all about how to go and make money there.

1. it is okay to live abroad and still live on the minimum wage, it just means that Ur standard of living will be different from Ur friends who hold qualified jobs. living on the minimum wage in the UK, is far better than what some professionals earn in Nigeria. and for  one thing the only common jobs in Nigeria are in the banking sector , oil and gas, telecommunication apart from all this their is no job security, any thing can happen at any time, without notice.

but like i said it depends on each individual, what one wants and what qualification one has to achieve that aim. but then not as an illegal immigrant.

and please everyone answering to this thread, living in the UK on either a minimum wage or high earners. cleaners or accountant. the good thing is that they all earn an honest living, and they get by each day on whatever they earn. or are we all saying that we all have to be rich because we are Nigerians .Hands are not equal u know.

the problems with we nigerians is that we want to start walking before crawling. it is all in our head that when we go abroad we have to go and strike it rich.

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I know what you are talking about.

But in Naija, some cost that in the West are exorbitant and compulsory, are a choice.

The killers are council tax and car tax. This are not that expensive in Naija and people get on.

Even if you work in the city, you would be spending close to £1100 a year on lunch and another £1300 on travelcard. I don't think it can cost up to N275K a year for lunch in Naija at the Iya Basira bukas I like to go to to replenish my bacteria levels. Neither do I think it would cost me N325K for my transportation.

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I disagree.

Of course, the take home pay makes it look like the one in Naija is far better off but if you check the quality of life and other indices, it's a facade.

£50k in the UK is miles ahead of the £40k dude in Nigeria. I can guarantee you he spends half of the £40k he earns on things the Naija government should be providing in the first place.

Ignore the take home pay and lets concentrate on what Mr. Naija and Mr. UK spend their money on.

I don't have to take ma car to the mechanic every weekend cos of pot-hole problems or ma car overheating blowing a gasket.

I don't buy fuel @ Black Market rate to fuel the generator n  ma car. What about the intangibles like Noise Pollution, Smog, Security of Lives n Properties.

Do you need a Hausa Maiguard in London? People earning N4.5 milla in Naija need them to secure their income, properties and their lives.

At the end of it all, Mr. Naija is poorer than the dude in London.

What is the standard of these cribs?

Borehole? Electricity? Portable Internet? Effective house-phone? Portable Gas?

Are you factoring those? Do i have to boil water on the gas-cooker to shower?

Mosquitoes? Do i have to worry about those?

If u consider the intangibles, i am better off with £18k in the UK than the equivalent in Nigeria.

Jaybee, i ask you. . . . .When was the last time you opened the bonnet of your car for any fault in the UK?

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Cost of living on £18k per annum here is not comparable to cost of living on N4.5mil

£18k per annum will give u a take home of roughly 1k per month after tax

factoring all the necessary expexpenditurese will probably be left with £300 max (assuming the person turns a blind eye to the 10% tithe thingy and live absolutely consconservativelyoughout the month)

but someone earning close to N300K after tax in naija is a super big boi cos 1 month salary alone can pay for the years rent in some places.

Nigeria is cheap but the reason why western world will always come up thruthumpscos of the other necessities we enjoy that money can't simply buy.

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No, you have to judge based on cost of living.

How much disposable income does one have at the end of the day and what can it get one.

I think someone earning £40K in Naija is far better off than someone earning £50K in UK.

A nice flat in Naija can cost about £4K per year, an equivalent one in UK would be exceeding £12K.

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Living abroad legally is advantageous, cause it will change that 9ja mentality about social and capital abilities, IMO

and if you are not able to get the legal permit, rub shoulders with experience pple to learn way of life from them and use it in the environment u are.

@ Kobojunkie,  I envy ur monthly expenses oh, I wish I can say d same,  But I'll choose NJ anytime despite the highest property tax in d nation.

@Busy_body,  I concur on ur postings,  while saying d facts. I enjoy d humor side of it.

@ Sauron~ and Tope2001, Please find me connection for SAP Netweaver with 6 fig.  anything less, I'll stay here je-je.

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People making the equivalent of £18k per annum in Nigeria are rich.

That's about N4.5 million per annum and this is why i think the poorest man abroad is almost a STAR in Nigeria.

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It is actually not easier to make a good life overseas than in Nigeria, it's only easier to "survive" there, even on low

incomes. But the question is why would you go overseas just to "survive"? I say good luck to those who seek

greener pastures overseas due to unemployment, low incomes and related issues. Problem is a lot of people who

leave here in these circumstances with high anticipation and often with no clearly set goals often reach there and get

distracted. First of all, they have to get a recognized certificate to be able to fit in the corporate environ(many didn't

think they'd be going back to school). Some people take up courses and obtain whatever necessary qualifications,

some drop out during the programme due to lazyness, or the low but stress-free life that the little income they earn

from menial jobs provide and then the survival till eternity begins.

At the same time a lot of Nigerians who are focused and sound in what they do, live very comfortably overseas but

trust me, they are good at what they do and have worked hard to get to that level.

The bottom line is that you have first got to empower yourself brain-wise. In naija, combine that with networking and

a lot of information and you'll go places as far as Sydney and Rio just for holidays.

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@ flashgeek:

u said "i will suggest that you start an online business. Browse online for honest opportunities (avoid work from home sites ,they are scams)".

can u kindly suggest sites where i can find such online biz opportunities?

or any1 in d house?ur replies wud be highly appreciated.thank u

p.s am in naija

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Information is power, you don't have to live in heaven before you start making good money, i don't have to wake up 5am in the morning just to get to the office on time and close as late as 5-6pm.

Imagining earning an average of $4k5-$5k in a month with an average of $7k5-$10k Cap. Open your eyes, learn, ask questions, think outta the box, to be successful, you don't need to see God or Jesus in person.

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Information is power, you don't have to live in heaven before you start making good money, i don't have to wake up 5am in the morning just to get to the office on time and close as late as 5-6pm.

Imagining earning an average of $4500-$5000 in a month with an average of $5000-$10,000 capital? This is no fluke, open your eyes, learn, ask questions, think outta box, to be successful, you don't need to see God or Jesus in person.

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@ Post

Identify the reason why you are going

Do your research - friends, internet, etc to find out the market for skills you have/hope to acquire for your livelihood

Compare potential benefits to your current life in Naija

What sacrifices are you willing to make by staying here or abroad?

Decide which environment works best for you long term

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@Kobojunkie

$3 for 4 liters of petrol is expensive, how much does 4 liters cost when there's scarcity?

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if you stay there legally its worth it.Even doing menial jobs ,dont be deceived of being patriotric in this country because everything is by connections but over there you're sure of better life no matter what your status is.

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platinumnk (f)Depends on what u what u want.

And Im tired of people saying its "this" easy to make it in 9ja. Shut the hell up too many are starving to utter such rubbish.

Im not saying its better, but to have bare nessities is better that everything

You are so right. I am tired of always hearing that you can make it in Nigeria as if someone will just throw money at you. There are thousands in Nigeria with no jobs and they'll be glad to do anywork and at least have the basic amenities like light, water and health care. I came back to Nigeria to a so called high fly corporate job all with a brand new car an dlet me tell you, i regret it after several hrs in traffic, no time for kids, horrible corporate culture and almost hopeless political situation in NIgeria. I for one wouldn't mind going back to my comfortable credit control job with peace, basic amenities and family time. I never experienced racism. When you have valid papers and a positive attitude, the sky would just be a starting point. Kapish?

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