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is there any hope for those of us "unfortunate" to have finished with 3rd class? its not fair that we are judged for the rest of our career lives cuz of this,

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The bad news is that many Nigerian companies and their directors are concerned when it goes about employing people with such a degree. However, the good news is that many foreign companies do not really care. They employ folks with diplomas and care nothing about the grades. Plus, your degree does not mean you should stop your education. Self-education is a powerful tool you can use to acquire new skills and abilities. Do not quit it and move on. Learn while you earn and pave your way through to success. READ ALSO: How to write a cover letter: 10 tips for Nigerian career climbers here https://ask.naij.com/vacancies-and-career/how-to-write-a-cover-letter-10-tips-for-nigerian-career-climbers-i23598.html.

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i made pass.and i have a wonderful job.i thank the Almighty Allah.anything can happen don't give up

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I have read most of the reactions to the post and do think that most are adversary while others tend to be too antagonistic. The young man who originally posted wanted to find a solution to a problem, but instead of directing him on what to do, we are here boasting and making a lot of noise without any substance. Let us be civil and reasonable in our utterances. This forum belongs to Seun and therefore have rules of which most of us are breaking. Now to the original poster, this is my advice, I also made 3rd class in law and was called to the bar. But in practice, class of degree does not count as no judge will ask you of that before you defend a client in court, but what you can do in face of court is what brings you briefs and recognition. There are many SAN's with 3rd class Degrees. When I was at the law school, the best graduating student from Ebonyi State made 3rd class at UNEC ie UNN, but was the only student that made 1st class at the law school, as a result The Council of Legal Education of Nigeria and The Body of Bencher's queried the University and they review the Degree to 2.1. I am currently working with the NNPC and there are others in Shell and other Establishments. Years ago Shell was not even inviting HND, 2.2 for interview, but a particular year changed that, those with better grades disgraced themselves and that prompted Shell to invite those with lesser grades and the result was that the HND, 2.1 and 3rd class holders did excellently well that they had no choice than to employ them. Forget your class of degree and believe in yourself like Obama is doing in US Democratic primaries. Though you did say the course you read, if it is a professional course, your professional certificate matters more than you class of degree in the employment market. I have worked with many expatriates and one thing is clear that Nigerian Degrees are like trash to all of them, not regarded at all. so brace yourself and go for professional certificates. In the oil industry for instance in Nigeria, PTI Diploma or HND is highly rated than your 1st Class or 2.1 Degree. Though in summary That does not mean that if you are in school, you should not strive to do well to make a good grade, far from it, but where you end up with a lesser grade, brace yourself up and move on, that is what Professor Dan Fulani of ABU Zaria told me sometime ago. By the way he has 2 First Degrees, 7 Masters Degrees and 4 PhD Degrees, yet he is very humble. I have also met Mr Kevin Nwosu of the Settlement House Abuja a former Senior Lecturer and Director at the Nigerian Law School who made 1st Class at Imo University and 1st class at the Law School. Or in the alternative, you can read another course if you want a more dignifying class of degree or go for more higher degrees. You are not unfortunate, but can be what you will be if you want to.

@triaophant, sincerely, i buy into your salient position held about professional degree holders and i would like to let all those who have ears that the race is not to be swift, its about how you can apply that knowledge in ones field, i am a law graduate from the UNIVERSITY OF CALABAR AKA THE UNIVERSITY OF CALAMITY, and i can assure i made a 3, in law not that there where no 2.1's or 2.2's in ma set, but the lecturers there appreciate softer parts of women, than the hard covered text of books, the full gist for another forum and day, no disrespect to any malabites or malabresses the truth as cold must be told. if you got it in you, no paper qualification can shroud it.just keep maintaining an unflinching desire to improve, and i assure you, the world would hear you soon.

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3rd class is painful guy but in most cases it was'nt really ur fault.Imagine all the adverts, they don't ever want to consider u.?It is a terrible situation.But that does not determine ur success in life.successin sch and success in life are two different thing.Just try to update urself,i know is not easy especially when people are looking up to to start working and take some load off them.BUT NEVER GIVE UP , u shall surely make IT. Try second degree and keep hope alife. If it does'nt happen close to u, u think they are dull. My best in the same class who i know am not better than made 3rd class . It was so painful and i felt it so much. U may be 3rd class in sch but u will NEVER BE IN LIFE., Go 4 second degree while looking 4 job, the Lord showeth mercy on whomever He wants(certificate not a criteria). All the best in life

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I get irritated when i hear people wallow in self pity, like i should carry them and bosom feed them(in my case chest feed), i hear this regressive yacking all the time,

Trust me, most of the advice we give peeps of this mindset are generic, if some Tom opens this same conversation, with a semantically reviewed topic, we wud rephrase and post the same empathic/generick messages of hope,

I dont claim to be religious, but God doesn't will us to regress in whatever we do, neither does He condemn us if we dont meet targets, However, He blesses us, if and only if we look beyond our self inflicted limitations.

Get off your sorry behind and develop a plan to make it, and follow it dilligently, get urself a mentor, and find out what he must have gone through to get to where he is, and then, in ur own way, adapt and move on.

The problem most of us have is that we dont want to crawl before we run. We tend to despise our days of small beginnings.

Mine is a success story, and i aint there yet. Iv earned crap and iv earned quid in my life time,

I rest my case for now.

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first of all, you are not unfortunate

3rd class is not an HIV, when there is life, there is Hope.The assessment of your lecturers have said 3rd class by their own judgement.Its time to prove them wrong.

a LOT might have been responsible for the 3rd class.If you choose a course that doesn't fit your tendencies, your grades might be poor.Eg, i read engineering in school, I'm a practical person more than abstract.So for practical and realistic minded course , I had an A but for mathematical and abstract courses, i have to do more to get an A.

First class doesn't guarantee success.It could get u a job but not success.There many professors that  are failures.Academics is very good, good grades are good, but life ddoesn'tconsist in grades.

When uyour dad says make sure uyou'vegot a first class, what he really wants is GET A JOB AS SOON AS U LEAVE SCHOOL, not much the first class

Please be encouraged

U can visit my blog for some motivational materials and career tips

I wish you Gods best

http://akinropoishola.blogspot.com/

iIvedecided to help in this way, all the things iIvellearnt how i have personally overcame situations that can bring you down.

In 25years time, what matters iisn'twho had first class, its who has succeeded most, who is relevant

God bless

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yes there is hope 4 a third class gradute but it may take some time.leran to drive,travel to abuja,become a conductor and enrol for uniabuja center for distance learning.with time,you will graduate to be a driver whereby you can make as much as 5000 daily.do this with some class for 5-6yrs while during weekends,go for your lectures.i can assure you that with this,you are assured of making @least 100k/month +a degree wityh a 2;1 in 5 yrs time.but remembner to ue age 16 while coming in.

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please house. What advice do you have for a third class graduate in Bio-Chemistry?

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wole soyinka finished third class? wow dats news

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Ha look man (4him) it is clear you have some deep seated issues that need resolving.DAngote n the rest never went to school.the point im trying to make to u is nomatter what u graduate wit u have to work hard to make it.even if Nijja is what it is as u put it u gotta work hard n being a 1st class graduate doesnt make u better than any1 else.bsides as u said Naigeria iswhat it is who knows how u got ur first class degree.

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Third Classers,

Do not allow any man to make you feel inferior. Everyone has a story. Conquer the challenges that come as part of your daily work. Whether its as a result 0f the system or not, move on. A degree is just a gate pass in the strictest sense of life. But there are many gates that lead to the same destination and do not require having a first class. What about those who didnt even attend a university?

If it means going back to school do it. If it means extra hardwork, do it. If it means setting up on your own do it. Any man who thinks he is better than you just because he has a better grade is not very bright. What matters is making a success of your life. Take what you have and move on. Do a PGD, move on to masters. Even MBA's are possible.

Wole Soyinka finished his first degree with a third class. If he stopped because he listened to myopic people he wouldnt be the KONGI, a Nobel prize winner we know today. Some comments are not worth reading so dont read them. You came here because you know deep within you that you are better.

Get a PGD. Be daring. Be bold and courageous. Tough and resolute. Nobody asks about your degree class when you are making impact. As I said it is a gate pass. Find another gate or take the time to go back and get the key if you MUST go through a particular gate.

YOUR CLASS OF DEGREE IS NOT THE STORY OF YOUR LIFE, ITS A PIECE OF CARDBOARD on which a piece of your history (dead yesterday is written)

GO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

ALL THE BEST.

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pple first class, third class or whatever are no determinants for a better tomorrow, yeah some first class students arent better than third class students. being smart is different from being intelligent( read to pass)

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Gani Fawehinmi had third class but he is succeeding today. Bill Gates, Steve Job, Michael Dell (these are the three leaders of Microsoft, Apple and Dell) were drop outs in school. They are leading today. It all depends on you! I advise you to forget the past and forge ahead with new commitment. You can still make headway!

Good luck.

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With GOD all things are possible

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i think we shouldn't castigate this kind of people. they need more encouragements than ranting.

i have an ebook i can send to you free "turning your hobby into a money making enterprise". just send me your email. mine's deolakayt@yahoo.com

technically there's a lot of hope if you are not disqualifying yourself already. lots of people have risen from obscurity to limelight, and your case is not different, just start with what you have, where you are- it's just challenging, not impossible nor difficult.

1. toyin subair of  HITV finished with a pass in law, and he is where he is

2. erastus akingbola of Intercontinental bank did not go to the university and he is where he is

3. femi falana, president west african bar association, finished from ife with a third class, he is where he is

i have more examples, but the difference is what will you score yourself?

4. you can go for certifications or IT training, some companies require people with all that, no matter your course nor class

you could raise money and go for an MBA

5 you could move full scale into entrepreneurship and later employ first class graduates. the owner of chanchagi airline just started speaking english less than five years ago, but he has entrepreneurs and expartriates working for him. who is smarter?

7. what do you want to do with your life?

                   i) make money? go into business

                   ii) make a name? develop ur skills and go into a compqny and make your self indispensible.

you could check my a post on my blog, [/url]>>>http://adeolakayode.com/2008/05/21/escaping-the-70-boosting-your-employment-edge/.

all the best

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It's a pity that we are in a country that we found ourselves in a country that attach a lot to certificates before they employ you.Take a look at the Japanese they give functional education and their economy is growing everyday.The painful part of the issue is that our educational system {higher institution inclusive}is not conducive for learning,we all know what is happening in our universities whereby it is those that play the politics alongside the lecturers receive the their favor or better still if you can do copy and paste from the handout given to you because they usually give out our scripts to mark at times fellow undergraduates.I 've marked for a lecturer while writing my final year project with marking guide that follow routine only and no consideration for extensive reading.Third class student can still make if he or she is good and develop his or her potentials.too much value to certificate is killing our economy,there are 2.1 students who could not express themselves fully in my class university of Lagos,imagine.I'm out

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@topic.

it's so unfair that some people misunderstood your question. You weren't throwing a pity-party for ursef or "whining". Just asking a simple, heart-felt question. Yes, a third class is one-kind. No, it's not the end of the world. And no, it doesn't mean u're dumb.

i know someone who had a third class in university. He' one of the most intelligent people I've had the good fortune to meet. It's sad that people have to be put in academic box to prove themselves. It's hard sometimes to come down to the mental level of some Nigerian lecturers, who just follow the same themes laid down decades ago and expect you to play along. Just show some element of innovative thinking, and you're fried.

well, the "paper" don't matter. Like some people have been saying, prove those lecturer-buggers wrong, and make something of yourself. You'll walk tall.

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THE GENERAL PERCEPTION IS THAT GRADUTAES WITH THIRD CLASS ARE NOT AS INTELECTUALLY COMPETENT AS PEOPLE WITH 2:2, 2:1 OR FIRST CLASS, HOWEVER I CHOOSE TO DIFFER.

I KNEW A GIRL WHILE I WAS IN SCHOOL WHO HAD A STRONG 2:2 UP TILL HER THIRD YEAR, BY THE TIME SHE GOT TO THE BEGINNING OF HER THIRD YEAR AND STARTED ATTENDING SOME LECTURES, THERE WAS A PARTICULARLY WELL CONNCETED LECTURER WHO WANTED TO SLEEP WITH HER. WHEN SHE REFUSED, HE MADE SURE THAT SHE FAILED. SHE ENDED UP WITH A THID CLASS.

IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, A LECTURER HAD A CRUSH ON THREE GIRLS AND MADE IT A POINT OF DUTY THAT THESE GIRLS MUST DO WELL. THEY ALL ENDED UP GRADUATING WITH 2:1'S.

I BARELY GRADUATED WITH A 2:2 AND IMMEDIATELY WENT TO DO MY MASTERS IN THE UK. WHILE I WAS STUDYING, I HAD LECTURERS COMIN UP TO ME AND TELLING ME THAT IM VERY SMART AND MY COURSEWORK AND PRESENTATIONS WERE ALWAYS COMMENDED. I BEGAN TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN MY ABILITIES AND ASK MYSELF IF I WAS THESAME PERSON THAT ATTENDED THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL. I REALISED THAT NIGERIAN LECTURERES NEVER GAVE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CREATIVE. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO JUST REPRODUCE WHATEVER MATERIAL YOPU ARE GIVEN OR WHATEVER NOTES THE LECTURERS DICTATED IN CLASS.

HAVING CITED ALL THESE SCENARIO'S U FIRST HAVE TO CONVINCE URSELF THAT YOUR CERTIFICATE IS NOT A TRUE REFLECTION OF WHAT YOU ARE INTELLECTUALLY CAPABLE OF DOING (IF IT'S SO IN YOUR CASE) AND TRY AND GET SOME CERTYIFICATIONS BY THE SIDE BECAUSE THATS WHAT MOST COMPANIES ARE LOOKING FOR NOW. THE GENERAL NOTION IS THAT THIRD-CLASS GRADUATES ARE WORTHLESS. I WAS EVEN ALMOST OSTRACIZED BY MY FAMILY WHEN THEY THOUGHT I WAS GOIN GRADUATE WITH A THIRD-CLASS.

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its not d end of d world. u shd do certified courses 2 upgrade ur CV

and PGD and Masters

let God do d rest

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@ Everyone

   FOR those that don't seem to get the point here, This thread  was a query if THIRD CLASS holder have hope or NOt, it has nothing to do with competition between third class and the rest of the world!!

@ the perceptive minds

      THird class degree may appear to be an impediment for getting jobs or competing in the Labour market but there are many solutions to every challenge, 1 there is no proof the a first class holder will always make it in class and 2 there is no proof that a third class holder will notmake it in life!!  IF SOMEONE THAT DID NOT GO TO SCHOOL AT ALL CAN BE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE GOOD MONEY LEGALLY THEN A THIRD CLASS HOLDER WHO is DETERMINED WILL AND CAN EVEN PERFORM IN LIFE BETTER THAN THOSE WITH HIGHER GRADES.

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@ Everyone

   FOR those that don't seem to get the point here, This thread  was a query if THIRD CLASS holder have hope or NOt, it has nothing to do with competition between third class and the rest of the world!!

@ the perceptive minds

      THird class degree may appear to be an impediment for getting jobs or competing in the Labour market but there are many solutions to every challenge, 1 there is no proof the a first class holder will always make it in class and 2 there is no proof that a third class holder will notmake it in life!!  IF SOMEONE THAT DID NOT GO TO SCHOOL AT ALL CAN BE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE GOOD MONEY LEGALLY THEN A THIRD CLASS HOLDER WHO is DETERMINED WILL AND CAN EVEN PERFORM IN LIFE BETTER THAN THOSE WITH HIGHER GRADES!!

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@ Everyone

   FOR those that don't seem to get the point here, This thread  was a query if THIRD CLASS holder have hope or NOt, it has nothing to do with competition between third class and the rest of the world!!

@ the perceptive minds

      THird class degree may appear to be an impediment for getting jobs or competing in the Labour market but there are many solutions to every challenge, 1 there is no proof the a first class holder will always make it in class and 2 there is no proof that a third class holder will notmake it in life!!  IF SOMEONE THAT DID NOT GO TO SCHOOL AT ALL CAN BE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE GOOD MONEY LEGALLY THEN A THIRD CLASS HOLDER WHO is DETERMINED WILL AND CAN EVEN PERFORM IN LIFE BETTER THAN THOSE WITH HIGHER class

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NIGERIANS HAVE A WAY OF EXTOLLING MEDIOCRITY, third class better pass first class!KEEP DREAMING.

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@ poster

     There is Hope for the folks with 3rd class, its all about looking for what you know how to do best and channel your energy towards it, you have many options infact,

1.if you want to correct the tiny disadvantage of your first degree.you cn do that and there are many options

2. if you want to go into busiess.that is entrepreneurship, take calculated risk, you can succeed here  if you use Smart work as opposed to hard work!!

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To Him or what did u call yourself?

Is it all does with 3rd class that played when in school and is it all does with 1st class that read well in school?Let me use u as an example u mit have a first class but does it show in the way u reason?I met a lady when serving and while hurrying her up she said what will the LGO do i quote'IS THERE ANYTHING MONEY CANT DO?'some pay their way some sleep their way and some do read.

To Kazan

There's hope i have a friend with 3rd class but with divine favour she got a job in a bank 'what language is this,can someone pls translate 2 english'

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to all my fellow third class (honours) degree holder, i hail o.nothing do us, Jare, A university degree its self is not even a determinant of success in life in its self (its only a means to an end just a platform to start from) , so with a 3rd class the sky is the limit if you are smart, am a living witness, a lot of people have 2-1 and thats where it ends, i personally make up to =N= 300,000 every month!!!! soon i will be interviewing those with 2-1 and 1st class!! its called common sense. its all in the mind!! Bill Gates did not need Havard to make it, Its common sense and exploring your talent!!

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please sir that is not an issue for discussion.it has been proven.they even make it bettr in the society than anyone else.

THRASH!THRASH!THRASH! AND ABSOLUTE THRASH! .THE PROBLEM IS MOST NIGERIANS HAVE A FALSE IMPRESSION ABOUT THEIR ACADEMIC ABILITY.MOST STUDENTS OPT FOR COURSES THAT ARE WAY BEYOND THEIR ABILITY.I MUST SAY THAT MOST FELLAS WHO CAME OUT OF THE NIGERIAN UNIVERSITY SYSTEM WITH A THIRD CLASS SHOULD TAKE 90% OF THE BLAME.I PERSONALLY KNOW LOTS OF FRIENDS WHO CLUBBED THEIR WAY THROUGH SCHOOL, SO WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THEIR PLIGHT?

FOR THOSE CONSOLING THEMSELVES WITH NONSENSE TALKS OF THIRD CLASS GRAD BEING MARKETABLE THAN FIRST CLASS GRAD,UVE GOT TO WAKE UP FROM YOUR DEEP SLUMBER COZ YOU WOULD GET A SHOCKER FROM THE LABOUR MARKET.

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Hi everyone also finished with 3rd class and finding things a bit difficult. Anyways just completed a certificate course in project management and seeking experience, any info and advice would be welcome.

@ aikyg please would like to know more

@ quickygirl please wot line of business are you into anything 4 the girls?

My email addy is tolu_sonubi@yahoo.com

Thanx

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Sure there is hope for those that finished with 3rd class!

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3rd class isnt any dterminant of ur success, be proud of ur grade,,build it and never feel oppressed, apply to anywhere, imagine u do a test with 2.1s, 2.2s and u score better than alot of them,, my friend, they would look into ur issue and give u a chance. God saw all the giants before HE gave David all the chances against Goliath,

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Fair enough Tyna

For all you guys with 3rd class, all the best

heads up and work hard, you would be just fine!!

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actually these group of workers are not Total staffs,although they work there and carries Total ID cards.

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Thank you jare

To the Oxy-slowpoke who said her friend works in total with a third class, u dey hear?wetin ur friend dey do there?sweep or washman?no disrespect but it has to be a menial job!!

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failure is failure. getting a 3rd class is equal to not having a degree and ure blaming the system.

However, when u have life, anything is possible. u can have a 3rd class and still be more prosperous than someone who got a first class. paper degree are supposed to enhance and help us achieve our dreams. if u got a 3rd class, that means, u still need a lot to do

PS: u cant work in total with 3rd class even if ur dad is the COO

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please sir that is not an issue for discussion.it has been proven.they even make it bettr in the society than anyone else

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Now I know someone else who finished from Chemistry with a 3rd. Chemistry, Physics and Pol. Science depts for that school, their lecturers don swear say person no go ever make 2.1 there. Smartest kid in her class and went to school quite young. She cried when she got her result, but her father told her not to worry, coz he knew her worth. She's now in the manager of some HIV NGO and is seeing big cash, going abroad and coming back coz she's got the brains. It's not necessarily the paper.

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Very 4ni @ LANKAYE

I Understand what u mean but i know of sm1 that came out with 3rd class,

really we kept askin her what happened with her.

when she was in school she was one of d best student in her dept

infact she was leading, so most tyms it's not that they r Daftl may be they over did things.

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There's hope for you my brother with 3rd class.Just believe in your self,control your destiny and you will rule your world.All the best.

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@ Poster

stop Suckin get off ur Bum n go get a post-Grad certificate,

then after u go 4 ya MASTERS! with that ; who go see ur 3rd class?

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I have read most of the reactions to the post and do think that most are adversary while others tend to be too antagonistic. The young man who originally posted wanted to find a solution to a problem, but instead of directing him on what to do, we are here boasting and making a lot of noise without any substance. Let us be civil and reasonable in our utterances. This forum belongs to Seun and therefore have rules of which most of us are breaking. Now to the original poster, this is my advice, I also made 3rd class in law and was called to the bar. But in practice, class of degree does not count as no judge will ask you of that before you defend a client in court, but what you can do in face of court is what brings you briefs and recognition. There are many SAN's with 3rd class Degrees. When I was at the law school, the best graduating student from Ebonyi State made 3rd class at UNEC ie UNN, but was the only student that made 1st class at the law school, as a result The Council of Legal Education of Nigeria and The Body of Bencher's queried the University and they review the Degree to 2.1. I am currently working with the NNPC and there are others in Shell and other Establishments. Years ago Shell was not even inviting HND, 2.2 for interview, but a particular year changed that, those with better grades disgraced themselves and that prompted Shell to invite those with lesser grades and the result was that the HND, 2.1 and 3rd class holders did excellently well that they had no choice than to employ them. Forget your class of degree and believe in yourself like Obama is doing in US Democratic primaries. Though you did say the course you read, if it is a professional course, your professional certificate matters more than you class of degree in the employment market. I have worked with many expatriates and one thing is clear that Nigerian Degrees are like trash to all of them, not regarded at all. so brace yourself and go for professional certificates. In the oil industry for instance in Nigeria, PTI Diploma or HND is highly rated than your 1st Class or 2.1 Degree. Though in summary That does not mean that if you are in school, you should not strive to do well to make a good grade, far from it, but where you end up with a lesser grade, brace yourself up and move on, that is what Professor Dan Fulani of ABU Zaria told me sometime ago. By the way he has 2 First Degrees, 7 Masters Degrees and 4 PhD Degrees, yet he is very humble. I have also met Mr Kevin Nwosu of the Settlement House Abuja a former Senior Lecturer and Director at the Nigerian Law School who made 1st Class at Imo University and 1st class at the Law School. Or in the alternative, you can read another course if you want a more dignifying class of degree or go for more higher degrees. You are not unfortunate, but can be what you will be if you want to.

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Hello,

Well, I want to say categorically that there are jobs for you if only you blieve in yourself. I want you to know that there is nothing to cry over in your making a 3rd class. that is past and it is what you make of the present that determines the future. therefore, write some professional exams like ICAN, ACCA, CIPM, CIMA if you are in the arts or social sciences or CISCO, CCNA etc if you read any of the science courses. Worst case, go for your PGD. Your ability to defend yourself well enough in an interview is what will get yu the job irrespective of the circumstances that surrounded your making a 3rd class. Once you can convince your interviewer that you made a 3rd class as a result of your playful nature, ignorance or whatever reason and that you have learnt then the better for you. However, if you decide to go in search of sy(em)pathy at your interview, I assure you that you will only be ridiculed. brace up to life and face the challenges. Own up to God and he will see you thru.

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Where there is life there is hope.

Some people did not finish school and end up living very meaningful lives as long as you try to add value to ur life in everything you do.

U can always add qualifications and work experience always adds up to propel you in jobs in the future

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Before I write my own, I will offer a disclaimer, yes, life is not about grades, I know. Now after reading most of these posts, Ive discovered a trend. Most whom seemed to have finished from school with grades they didnt like, are basically saying not so nice things. Some are saying most of the pple who made 2-1 and above bought it or slept their way to get it. Please, how many of such do you know? Yes, this is Nigeria, but there are somethings you cannot just buy, even if it happens, then its an exception. Do u realize how many pple someone wud have to shag, each semester to get an A, or B grade, to push ur gpa into a 2-1? What are we saying? And if you are going to "sort", except if ur dad holds enuff pepper, you will be bankrupt, besides if u were so so rich, you wudnt bother urself studying to get those grades.

Some guys also like to claim that "they are better than some so-called 2-1s, and all that in terms of certs" .This in my honest opinion is just someone trying to console themselves. IF you were so good, you wouldnt need to talk, or boast, or prove that youre better than anyone. And no, I didnt have a first class, and I do not believe that your grades make you in life. However, I believe in taking responsibility for ones life, instead of trying to attack others who succeeded, and make something of your life. To the guy who said 90% of first class graduates cant explain what they did, guy, where did u get your stats from? Which journal did you read which gave those figures? When we as human beings cannot acheive something, we tend to belittle it as nothing. Some of these first classes, esp from Naija might as many of you claim, only know "theory", but are good in their own way, and we should celebrate such as at least showing the world that Nigeria has brains, as opposed to just being all about 419 scams.

@To all the pple who say paper qualifications (i.e Degrees) dont matter, and its all about certs, well my guy, certs are just "paper" also. And in Nigeria, most people with certs, just read or buy the braindumps, which is basically odu if you want to be honest, and then go and pass the exam. So tell me, what sets you apart from a so -called "cram and download" 2-1 or first class graduate? I was about studying for SCJP, and I put up a post on a reputable Java site about dumps, the people there replied that they BAN talking about it on their forums, and dont encourage the use of it in certs. Now, I focus on getting knowledge on my own, instead of burning cash keeping up with certs that always change (But its diff for ICAN, and others, am just talking from my own area)

Now to the poster. Third class doesnt mean the end of life. Develop a plan, pray, dont complain or compete with anyone, and move foward. Yes, life is not about grades, but if your hand finds something to do, do it with all your might. And I do not believe that pple who didnt do well in school didnt do well cus they were lazy. A number of factors are involved in Nigerian institutions. But instead of attacking pple who made it, we should focus on building ourselves positively and making our own impact.

Peace.

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Hi, Sweetums

I dont know where you are taking all these too, no hard feelings as usual, Thanks for educating me about the likes of Pavorotti and machiavelli i wudnt have known them, had to check d encyclopeadia, pls dont stop educating me, if am sucking to white degenerate Bottom, at least your mum did same, 15 years ago when there were more opportunities and it took her time before she discovered she was a mediocre, please give me some time too, my oga.

i will say it again, 'Lets go there'it was not an attempt to display literary prowess, like i said, keep educating me, u, drop d lines from the works of macbeth et al and i learn from you, please tell me where your mum proceded to from the council and let me take a cue from her,

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I CANT GET MY HEAD ROUND EVERYTHING YOU TYPED ABOVE

I DONT HAVE A FUC/KING CLUE OF WHAT YOU R ON ABOUT?

NO DISRESPECT OR PUN INTENDED BUT PLEASE CLARIFY THE MEANING OF THE HIGHLIGHTED WORDS SO NAIRALANDERS CAN HELP YOU

{IS IT MY GLASSES THAT NEEDS CHANGING OR DOES ANYONE ELSE SPOT SOME IRREGULARITIES ABOVE APART FROM LAKANYE?!}

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SWEETUMS,

Abba!!! u say u are not trading words and you insult me so much,silly, ignorant,only me? ok.I am a graduate and u should have deduced from the tone of my post that i had a third class too. i am also, by the grace of God on the pay roll of the British Council. You will see that i am not the only one who reacted in such manner to your post. someone described it as COLD.

You sounded like you are attributing your success to your ingenuity and skill,scripture says that the race is not to the swift, hope u know the rest, That statement is not idiotic and definitly not a threat, cant attack u over internet protocol now! partly a line from one of 9ice's popular tracks-party ryder,just to say, make we dey see.this is a forum and i can contribute,so saying that you were not addressing me is no talk.

Take care and have a nice weekend

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U guys hav been wonderful, i must confess. i had wanted to keep this to myself, but i was quick to realize i was going to be doing myself more harm than good if i decide to do so. I school in one of the federal universities of technology in Nigeria, i m presently studing agricultural technology.(crop, soil, and pest mgt) am presently in a third class, but there is every hope for me making it to 2.2 if i spill. if i decideaduate this year, there shall be very minimal, or minute chances for me for coming out with a 2.2. the dilemma is what should i do? how am i gonna confront friends and relatives at home whom are already awaiting my convocation, they'v even gone to the extent of paying up my school fees in the university of dublin for my masters degree, for the 2008 2009 section? but at the same time, i must consider the hazards and detriments a 3rd class certificate can pose on my future!!! pls i need yu guys candid opinion on this issue. hollanell@yahoo.com

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LMFAO

More like a savage attack!lol

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