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Engineering Vs Medicine "which Is More Challenging?"

Its Kindda like a debate,

You dont necessarily have to be an enigineering/medical student, Dr./Engr. to partake.

Simply defend your stand with supportive claims,

Should be a good forum to get a good glimpse of what each field really entails.

I'd say Engineering is tougher. Starting with problem solving, Complex equations and all. In medicine, the formula is just to stay consistent with your books( thats quite cool if you love reading).

Check out the circuits on your Laptop, do you have a clue of whats going on in it? Or imagine how bridges have been built accross oceans, Not to mention engineers' Overwhelming contribution to the medical world.

Your turn.

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Na Who cause confusion btwn all these ITKs?

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With respect to the guy who asked, which university would I recommend. Here is what I had found about Nigeria, any university is good and acceptable to the workforce as long as it isn't private and you graduated with first class or second class upper. A graduate of Federal University of Technology Akure with first class honors is favorable and has better chances of getting a job than a graduate of any of the best federal universities in the country with second-class upper or lower honors. So, what is important is academic excellence. Nigeria is one country that treats its exceptional graduates with dignity and reward, with respect to getting a good paying job after graduation. This  is from experience, I know friends in my secondary school  days who came from extremely poor family, some I had to admit I had to support financially during our school days. However, these kids did well, very well in university(engineering to be exact), four of them graduated with first class honors and are today RICH YOUNG GUYS in Abuja. This is what I called hard work! Absolute hard work, it pays off big time.

Read this thread(http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-388073.64.html) and you will have a pretty good understanding of what I am talking about, 99.99999999% of all first class students will always be successful in life!

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Pls if i want 2 study chemical or mechanical engineering in Nigeria, which Nigerian university can u recommend 4 me.I have been thinking of Federal university of technology Akure.

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Pls if i want 2 study chemical or mechanical engineering in Nigeria, which Nigerian university can u recommend 4 me.I have been thinking of Federal university of technology Akure.

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If you don't have experience in neither professions, pls don't  comment here. Here is my two cents: Medicine is more rigorous and challenging in Nigeria than engineering. And its the other way round in U.S. I was an engineering student(third yr) in Nigeria before leaving the country to attend CU Boulder. Back in Nigeria, I know few of my friends in engineering who passed their exams with cheating, bribing professors or taking easy way out. Today they are working for SHELL OIL and NNPC.  Now, in U.S, don't know about other countries, engineering in U.S is no joke, GOD! THERE IS NO EASY WAY OUT, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE CHEATING. I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. YOU MUST USE YOUR BRAIN.  If you doubt what I am saying, pls don't argue with me, simply call Engr. Arthur Eze( received mechanical engineering undergraduate from University of California, Berkeley in 1976) and others.One of my friends who was a pretty good student in Nigeria came to join me here in my sophomore yr, he spent 4 years here with no advancement, was placed on suspension and had to go back home to finish in Nigeria. I warned him about this before coming here. He comes from a wealthy family and he had wanted to get an engineering degree from U.S as a prestige or a way of building up a good resume for future political appointment in Nigeria some day. A very serious student with drive, doesn't think about his father's wealth but he couldn't cut it. I understand this is anecdotal but I am pretty sure you will hear similar stories. Have you ever asked yourself why there are only few Nigerians with  U.S undergraduate  degrees in engineering? 

Now, Medicine in U.S is also challenging, no easy way out also  but by comparison to  Nigeria,  medicine in Nigeria is challenging and far more rigorous. Medical schools in Nigeria is one profession I can tell you is 90% free of cheating or easy way out. Other fields, including engineering is not as rigorous, and most graduates graduated by bribing professors, cheating and not using their brain.

Back in my junior year in engineering(U.S), I know of few friends who left engineering to study medicine. They all called and told me that this poo is easy. My point is, whatever you do if you are not science and math grounded from high school(secondary school), please don't come to U.S to study engineering. I repeat don't argue this with me, simply call one of your friends who studied engineering in U.S and inquire from them. I am talking about undergraduate not masters or phD. I was a pretty brilliant student  before I left Nigeria. I attended Loyola Jesuit College, Abuja. I bet you all know Gregory Ugwi, the guy with the highest JAMB score in 2002, he was my classmate. Whenever you see him, ask him the only guy who trounced him in SSCE in 2002.  I wish I could give out my full name, and  he(Gregory) would vouch on my behalf on my academic aptitude. This is just to give you guys my academic background. Engineering is very rigorous in U.S, I don't know why it was structured that way. It would be worthwhile to review it, the stress and the curriculum is just too rigorous!

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Medicine is challengiing. Imagine being woken up at 2am on a cold rainy day having slept by 10pm. To perform an emergency life saving operation dat would last 4 hours. You finish 6am and expected to resume work 8am and function optimally!

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coming back home, i think the problem with engineering in this country is the organization of the profession. COREN and NSE has a lot of work to do. the educational engineering monitoring group of these country of our dear country (NUC, NABTEB, )have more to do. for example, in 2008, i happened to be at the waec centre for practicals in metal work which was held at fed technical college akoka. to my surprise, most of the machines, vice and even work piece dedicated for the examination are what we considered as scarp in my days in the technical school. i wondered what these people are even examining in the first case. engineering in this country is practiced chaotically. every industry i have had the opportunity to visit are not practicing engineering as it should be done. even thou they are producing, they have no standards which they are following, an the visiting COREN/NSE member just visit literally to have ghana must go bags and not see if things are done the way they ought to

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LOL@Lekside,

I even have to laugh about any so-called Nigerian 'engineer' defending the profession on this Nairaland.

We no even dey the reckoning for any global roll call of engineers. At least the ones who are, are not writing stuff on Nairaland. They're probably not even associated with Nigeria. Like the guy building Iraq's railway.

Whatever is happening in the field of engineering, Nigerians are not a part of it. Apart from school wey we dey go all over the world, we have nothing at all to show for it.

Nigerians who have been part of major scientific or engineering breakthroughs can be counted on the tips of one's fingers.

yet we have a number of renowned medical professors, such as the Adeniyi-Jones, Giwa-Osagies, Osotimehims, Osuntokuns, etcs, of this world. They are published in medical journals, and are recognised by their communities.

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@AJANLEKOKO,

   in your earlier post, you said

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but majority of what you work with is purely mathematical

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wetin dey quantum physics. no be maths.

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What r u saying chairman? is your sarcasm at it again? lol

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Una don come again.

Like we have that many Nigerian quantum phycisists?

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^^

and u think averange intelligence can cut it with quantum physics?

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well, you guys, i don't thing any course is more difficult than the other. once you are above the average intelligent guy and more focus, i think anybody can graduate in any course. the main question is are you really interested in your course of study? i was once offered an opportunity to study medicine even on scholarship level, i simply refuse, not because i cannot withstand the academic stress, but i hate hospital environment which makes me sick when i go there. i like multimedia a lot and that was why i went the way of electronics.

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That should give you a fair indication of who's really challenged, and who's blowing their trumpet!

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mehn, i'm impressed, we've got more Engineers on this line than medics, hoping medics would hit this topic harder,

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Hmmm, akika:-)

PS: I'm assuming akika means "well said" and hopefully not "oje". Great quote!

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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". - Arthur C. Clarke "Profiles of The Future" 1961 (Clarke's third law)

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I can’t really say which is more challenging since I really can't substantively compare both. But I can say without a doubt that to become a doctor is more grueling and demanding. Also, all “doctors” are not created equal.

Doctors               ($128,000- $219,000)  – 4 years premed + 4 years med school + 3 residency

General surgeon ($212,000 - $437,000)   - 4 years premed + 4 years med school + 5 residency

Neurosurgeon    ($277,000 – $709,000)  - 4 years premed + 4 years med school + 6 residency

Heart surgeon    ($227,000 – $650,000)  - 4 years premed + 4 years med school + ~9 residency

To be honest, I think being a general practitioner (regular doctors) is not that prestigious and it is reflected in how much they get paid. Here’s a little secret, not all doctors are well off. Their six-figure salary might seem a lot but not when considering the amount of hours they put in. In other words, their pay rates are not that impressive.

Further, depending on the kind of electrical engineering work you do, it could definitely be a life long learning process. As someone who has worked on things considered “black magic” in the engineering world, I can tell you electrical engineering problems are as difficult as they come. However, you don’t need the same amount of schooling as doctors to solve a problem, you just have to be very smart and have a very good foundation to build on. Your success in engineering mainly depends on your understanding of the theoretical fundamental principles and how you can extrapolate them to explain and create real world solutions…easier said than done. Another thing, studying engineering only teaches you the building blocks you need to solve a real life problem.

I think both professions are needed because a country can't become developed without engineers and without doctors, all the engineers will die at a very young age before developing anything substantial.

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Very impressive arguments and juxtapositions here!!!

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In practice Engineering and medicine are complementary

Engineers prevent and doctors provide cure

What do you think of these:

A faulty airplane

A failed building structure

A collapsed bridge

Contaminated public water supply

A nuclear fallout.

Power outage

Network failure.

Contaminated petroleum products

And the list goes on

If the engineers dont prevent these the doctors wont be able to handle the resulting casualty .

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If you ar trying to invent in any of the fields, thenyou can tell which is challenging

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"vet. med. is very difficult,u do anatomy,physiology,biochem of various animal"

Nope nope, these are the easiest things to study. Infact a 10th grader would be able to finish them in the same time.

Medicine is not supposed to be, but is , Memorizing.

Except for some one who has previous physics undergrad background, it's all easy.

Yes pharma-chemistry ones sound awkward, but again it's memorizing.

Engineering = using head (analysis)

Medicine = Memorizing (cause and effect relationships, and medicine names, go for any problem and they'll first try to give it a name for the disease)

Of course medicine wasn't supposed to be that way , but sadly it is that way. If the doctor has previous physics/mathematics background then I can count more on them than the others with biology background only. That said about 5% of the medical professonals are smart enough to be able to work with us and find solutions. The press is always pressing "micracles by medicines" but they are actually talking about "engineering miracles through imaging, through technology, through equipments, through genetics, through nanotechnology, "nah it wasn't doctors who made electronic microscope.

The maths is the only thing that pushes us towards precise thinking, and to tell you the truth almost 90% of medical professionals would be out of job and replaced by Automation if the states didn't require a licence to practice it. They are dumb people with god-complex. Yes they work longer but so do the bar-attenders. They would not pass any engineering courses given time to study whereas we can pass , like the tenth grader, all of their courses given the same study time.

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control systems design  is all about differencial equations. once you know the basics of DE to at least the second degree plus Laplace transformations for the harder stuff. it becomes a piece of cake.

Also this seems to be the case in most part of Electronics Eng. na so so Differencial Calculus. Master it and EE becomes much much easier

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Dude! that thing was brain cracking, abeg

i still dey thank Baba God i passed the course.

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what was you degree in?

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na wetin hard for there

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CSD for electrical/electronics no be for the faint hearted oh. even took the liberty of studying it for me MSc.

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^^^

just to add control system design caculaions to that mix.

wow i still can't blv i actually survived 'em calculations. lol

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all courses are hard and good,eg vet. med. is very difficult,u do anatomy,physiology,biochem of various animals including marine animal,optometry is also very difficult ,it is a combination of anatomy ,physiology,bcm,physics,etc,

medcine is hard too but in naija ,theytry to make people fail,

engenering to me is much more difficult if u think of calculux,schrodinger wave equations,engeinering maths,think of math 101,then u go know better

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If you love solving problems Engineering will appeal to you. If you like taking care of people. you are empathic Medicine is a natural choice

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@ Topic: Challenging for whom, if I may ask? Is it for the undergraduate student or for the practitioner?

What are the criteriae for comparison? Did we take into consideration such confounding variables as personality type of the individuals choosing the courses, their socio-economic background etc

I chose ‘Medicine’ because I always wanted to be a Doctor, even before I got into secondary school. I doubt that I’d have been able to become an Engineer, simply because it doesn’t appeal to me as a profession and not because I wouldn’t have been able to handle the mathematics and so on involved. I’m sure any ‘Engineers’ here would probably say the same. Did I find training to become a Doctor challenging? I certainly did, but I can’t say how challenging Engineering is, because I don’t know. Likewise an Engineer can’t come and say how ‘challenging’ medicine is because s/he is not in a position to say. Only somebody who has actually studied both would be able to pass an informed (but still not very accurate) judgement,

Those who think that Medicine is not creative and does not challenge the status quo, with all due respect, don’t know what they are talking about!

I am a Specialist in Psychiatry. In my field we are currently identifying the genes responsible for aggression and love. We have localised the part of the brain that makes us to 'desire' things, to 'hate' things, to 'believe' in things and we are on the verge of bringing forth pharmacological and instrumental interventions that can obliterate memory or awaken lost memories. We have been able to change human personality for decades using surgery and pharmacology, but we have acquired skills to use 'talking' therapy to quieten restless human 'spirits'.

We are mapping the human ‘soul’ and the very nature of man, and we have learnt how to control emotion, will and human intelligence.

Yet Psychiatry is just one of the many subspecialties of Medicine that are pushing the boundaries of human knowledge and understanding. And you dare to say that we are not creative?

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As much as medicine is challanging, engineering is simply the act of creation. Ofcourse engineering is braoder and deeper and therefore more challenging. In fact medicine is an act of engineering. Peace out

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Wow,

I'm percieving some brilliant minds in here, too late to start serving out individual praises now, gaining some fresh insights here,

I'll just digress briefly to tell Zerocool how most countries grow.

U dont need to come up with some sub-inventions when u can franchise with brandnames, what u do is make ur country condusive enough for foreign investors(u boost ur economy). It is possible for panasonic, sony, LG and even Nike or addidas to plant their bases in a country, it creates employment opportunities/eliminate delivery issues to sorrounding consumer countries

LG dint just create a Nigerian TV, they strived at making their product more rugged/marketable by taking power fluctuations into consideration.

When ur faced with such erratic power supplies experienced in Nigeria up till this very second u dont scream at the medics, u push the challenge to the very people responsible, Engineers (eliminating political influences, solving that shouldnt be a problem, though a major Engineering challange!).

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I have to agree there. Moreso the lifetime career demands are a lot more steep for doctors than for engineers.

You see a 5-year-experience engineer already in a management position, and managing large volume projects. However, for doctors in most countries 5 years means you may just be rounding up your residency, and preparing for a career in your field of specialisation.

In all other professions, engineering included, the higher you go, the lighter your load. After a number of years you move into management, and the skill set is quite different. Medicine however presents the inverse as the case. The higher you go, and the more qualified you become, the heavier your workload. That is why you see senior consultant surgeons (literally) handling the the most complex surgeries, working longer hours than the more junior guys, and usually combining teaching with research and general surgical practice. Unless you happen to work in an academic or research institution, that rarely happens in Engineering. Most of the time, the tracks are distinct. You are either in practice, doing research, or teaching.

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No disrespect to anybody but aren't the social sciences like Sociology and Psychology easy?

TPIA - the graduation rates for colleges of Engineering are pretty low, most people by their first or 2nd year have already switched to finance,accounting or business administration. Most colleges of Engineering in the US graduate at the most 40% of their incoming freshmen students.

Both PROFESSIONAL courses are equally challenging

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who told you the average engineer in the US finishes in 3-4 yrs.  it takes 4.5 to 6years for most.

I would say Engineering but am obviously biased.

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NO COURSE IS CHALLENGING WE CONSIDER ONLY THE VOLUME OF COURSE OUTLINE OF THE COURSE !

Medicine on its own is not challenging at all. It just that the course outline is too much.

What is the course outline ? : THE HUMAN BODY - IS THE MOST COMPLICATED THING ON EARTH. GOD HIMSELF SAW IT AND MADE IT THE LAST IN CREATION. DO U KNOW THE NUMBER OF NERVES IN THE BODY, THE MEDICAL STUDENT IS EXPECTED TO KNOW IT. AND MANY MORE.

MORE OVER, NOTE THIS STATEMENT:

BEING INTELLIGENT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN DO MEDICINE

DOING MEDICINE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THAT ENGINEERING STUDENT;

BUT IT ALL DEPEND ON THE

LOVE FOR THE COURSE IN QUESTION.

FOR ME DOING ANY COURSE (EVEN THE MOST SO CALLED SIMPLEST COURSE) THAT IS NOT MATHEMATICALLY INCLINED IS NOT GOOD FOR ME WHEREAS SOME PEOPLE TELL U THAT ANY THING THAT HAS TO DO WITH MATHEMATIC IS AN ENEMY TO THEM. U SEE !

THESE TWO COURSES ARE NOT TO BE COMPARED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS. I REST MY CASE HERE.

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Hw can u compare med nd engineering. Av u seen med students read, can u compare it with hw eng students. Med students in my skul write 4 m.b exams, if u fail d courses, dey remove u frm med skul, eng students enjoy, do u av any idea hw many muscles are in d body nd deir origin, insertions, blood nd nerve supply, functions. Do u know a med students must know all of histology, neuroscience, neuroanatomy, embryology, anatomy-muscles,viscera, physiology-deals wit functions, a bit of pharmacology, biochemistry. All this are done under 18 months b4 writin deir 1st mb exams, den pathology-deals wit pathways of diseases, pharmacology_deals wit all drugs nd deir history, minor surgery in yr 4 alone, paediatrics nd ob & gyn in yr5, surgery nd community service in yr6. All of dis is done in med skul, den practice dt drains u. Guy pls dnt compare med students nd med students, if u r good at maths nd physics u will do well at eng. bt bein good at biology nd chem does nt guarantee u will make it in med school.

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engineering cannot be compared with medicine

I think the topic should be something like this

"Aviation(Pilots/Aircraft Engrs) and Medicine (Doctors)- which is more challenging"

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@oyb

see me see wahala o. who is in charge of constructions, a doctor?

if a building is to be collapsed,who undertakes dat duty, a lawyer?

it just seems u passed thru skool when u don't even know engineers are in charge of construction and even demolition of buildings. oyb, U see say u be the olodo, which skool u go self??

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I am not trying to argue here but to dispute the premise for you wanting to root for medicine. I know couple of friends in high school who were top students at national level. These were students who made WAEC and JAMB seem like child's play. But honestly, these students I am citing cannot study Medicine because they are so mathematically inclined that any academic material not in that direction does not interest them at all. Flunking out of a program doesn't make it any more difficult. There are reasons that could be attributed to that.

Maybe those kids you mentioned lost interest in Medicine and became slackers. Probably, they understood an Engineering degree is apt for them and decided to switch majors. There is still a chance they were prevailed upon to study Medicine due to their stellar high school performance. Several factors abound that could have caused the example you cited but I am not convinced it is not sufficient to use that as a premise in rooting for Medicine as been more challenging than Engineering because it is very disputable.

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i think someone studying both courses at the same time will be able to give a better answer to the question.

@ last poster, i am studying an allied health course and i can tell that medicine is not abt cramming some medical jargon.

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One can cram medical jargons and eventual pass MEDICAL exams but in ENGINEERING is a different ball game, you have to do it. you know we do not just read ENGINEERING, we do Engineering. Even in the process, we manufacture common syringe for them to aid their operations.

In fact let me stop here.

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What you find challenging depends on the person.

For some engineering is challenging, while to others it is the easier option. I know quite a few engineering phd holders from top universities of the world who struggle with writing essays.

Medicine could also be challenging, as what it lacks in numerical concepts, it makes up for in volume and breadth.

one thing am sure is that both na wahala!

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naija engineers make sub-standard roads (which shows how incompetent they r or maybe hw 'dubious' they r).

i don't even tink our engineers av made anytin tangible apart frm touchlights, grinding machines, assembling computer and motorcycle parts.

they can't even make an ordinary tv set all dis yrs until LG made d first nigerian tv. it is the foreigners dat run most of the engineering firms & also invent new tins in d country, shame!

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well said jare,ajanlekoko.

the only point they seem to shout on top of their voice and spit about is dat the mistake of an engineer claims many lifes while dat of a doctor just 1 life.

i wonder where our nigerian engineering firms r, when the repairs to the 3rd mainland bridge was done,

i wonder where our nigerian engineers r when the 'almost collapsed' building in V.I was contracted to and brought down by a S.A engineering firm.

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