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Is A Third Class In Computer Science Useless?

I graduated with a third class in Mathematic/Computer science. I have search for job for a year now and each time, I pass aptitude test with good scores,because I know I'm not dull, but when I go for oral interview, on seeing my certificate, the panel treats me like an outcast. Though I came out with a 3rd class, I'm far far better than most 2.1 graduates of my schools then. Among the things I can do very well in the computer field are Networking, PC repairs and maintenace, Web designing and a little programming.

My problems is that most of these employers of labour won't even give me chance to display what I know. The question is "Am I going to remain jobless because of my grade?" " Am I completely unemployable?". Someone should please come to my rescue, I believe I have a lot to contribute in the IT world if my grade should be overlooked.

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Well, third class means you did put time and effort in your studies. You still managed to get through and have certain knowledge. Of course, you have so much competition to deal with, but you should view your third class as an advantage, rather than some kind of problem.

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but in Nigeria, few people invest in other people's idea!I tried to start something on my won but it didn't last due to poor take off capital.

Kato707, i do disagree wit dis. havent u seen d diamond bank advert "anyone wit bright ideas.? we'll back you" i dont know why we nigerian youths are always hiding under d cover dat nobody is ready to back you up financially, if u've got very bright ideas with d potential for commercial success i tell backers will be falling over themselves for you. dis i know based on my own personal experience. so lets go back and think up quality ideas, i assure capital wont be any problem.

Aspa ur 3rd. class issue, dat shuldnt stop u 4rm being wat u want 2 be. remember: wealth= talents + businees wits.

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Thank you all 4  your encouragement!

I strongly believe in myself more than before. I've always been enterpreneurial driven, right from school I do organize seminars/workshops on Networking. My aim after NYSC was to work for a while and start a Networking firm, first of it's kind in the country with a mission beyond making just profit, but in Nigeria, few people invest in other people's idea!I tried to start something on my won but it didn't last due to poor take off capital.

I'll be relocating to Port Harcourt and will volunteer my free service, I trust myself in terms of hard work and innovations and ablitity to learn fast.

I'll share beautiful testimonies.

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i will want you to upgrade your self. i tinkt he course is a professional course which you could either go into data processing or you other usefulness for the course,  I have a uncle recieving contractrs at AIT/RAYPOWER. nATIONWIDE, He is a big and rich man now, He did programming and i think as you said you can compete with the 2.1 students.,then i will advice you to go into programming.Read wide in your computer studies okay,

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Hmmmnnn!!! My guy, u read comp science, u have great skill and u are still waiting. last month two of my friends on different occasions were looking for pple with experience in .NET and Visual basic. The job was a contract job for a year or two (i cant rem). But they were not concerned whether the person even had a 1st degree. Jobs like that are available. Network urself well. Try and find out which of these computer application/progs are on demand (Not necessarily those Certifications o!). Then maybe one good complete certification to color ur Cv. THE SKY IS UR LIMIT BRO. I have a third class in Engr. but I wish I were u (with ur degree in Comp). Well my flare is in 2D/3d Animation and Graphix, and not all that programming and SQL stuff. I'm not waiting necessarily waiting 4 those narrow minded employers to talk me down in their so called interviews. I have to start something on my own and wit other sharp pple. Just have a good target. Check in the papers to see what coys req 4 Network administrators. Stick to God if u havent been walking wit him and ur life wld end up even better than pple u envy now (if u maintain focus o!). Cheers.

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Hail you,@Mickel x,that's just the answer,you got it right,work it yourself,for one to be a graduate,you have to be an independent thinker to an extent,especially when you are in the feild of IT that is open to exploitation if you know what you are doing.BILL GATE,is a university dropout.

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now that is really myopic, go back to school! !

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@ poster

I really feel your pain considering the fact that Nigerians value paper qualifications more. Just try and believe in your self get those certification exams that u think will benefit and uplift your grade. Continue applying and don't be discouraged, You can never tell when your miracle will happen.

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to start wit,a third class in computer sci. is some what hard 2 use in a country like ours depending on ur connection.

if u have connection then there is hope, but if dont, my brother, u beter start with somtin.

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Are you really interested in programming?If YES, 3rd class might not just be the main thing. Its motivation you should consider. Please give me a call on 08067090339 lets get u started on programming

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Xtycod, isnt it obvious that u r d myopic mofo here? Was I in anyway talking to u?

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yes it is useless when looking for wage employment, U can try going back to school for another course with a direct entry and its just 2 or 3 years. instead try self employment

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Forget about the grade you graduated with. I for one i don't believe that all persons that graduated with 3rd class are dull or not good enough; the same thing applies to all persons that graduate with 1st class or 2.1 & 2.2, not all of them are intelligent. just believe in urself and my candid advice is that you shld take your mind away from looking for a job, rather be thing of creating a job for urself. You read a very good course , Computer science; iexpect you to do something with the skills you have except if you don't have any skills in you kpata kpata.

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Kato,look dont u eva subject yourself to a piece of paper(3rd class certificate)What u are is not in that piece of paper neither is a 1st class piece of paper.Fine its a good thing to graduate with a good grade but my dear friend your destiny is not in a grade.Listen if u believe in God talk to him concerning your job.A family friend of mine had a 2:1 in Banking&finance,tru wit sch4 like 3yrs now still no job.So just keep saying it, dont stop talking it & it will become reality in your life.Just remember to share d gud news ok?

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@qmaasim

Your website would have looked better if you had designed the layout yourself. Why use a template from Frontpage? (while you know that virtually all web developer have seen and used  that at one time or the other)

I am not condeming your JOB anyway, but just try and design your our layout; UNIQUENESS actually matters, You know?

Hope to see a new layout the next time I visit.

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Dawg if you think your degree is useless then it is useless, however if you really believe that you are smart but got a 3rd class due to unfortunate circumstances then that's fine.

However, please don't say you are better than people who graduated with 2-1 unless you have proof. have you written commercial software? do you have ideas?. You have to prove it and hope somebody believes you

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My brother I know exactly how u feel. I too am also in that boat & I can't begin to explain how much insults I've received cus of my degree. But one thing graduating with a third class degree has done is that it's made me look deep within myself & discover strengths & skills I never knew I possessed, I have become more focused & determined, & I have come to realise that my life is what I make of it & not what someone else decides to do with it. So don't ever give up, keep struggling, appreciate ureself, if not no one else will, and most importantly, PUT GOD FIRST!

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I'm so sorry, but having a third-class in nigeria almost as good as not going to school. Even if you have skills, no employer will believe you. As for the course computer science. Employers mostly employ either first-class graduates or graduates two-one g. @poster, maybe you should think of going back to school for masters. You might be lucky or betterstill, you can set-up on your own.

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A lot of talks about "start something" in here. I think it will help this guy and others in here if some elaboration is given on this "something" he is supposed to start. This guy needs ideas. He already knows he needs to start or do something.

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I don't know why people keep piling up years of education only to carry a piece of paper looking for an employer while everything is pointing to their employing themselves and others. Please brother get others in similar circumstances but different strong areas of knowlegde from yours together and start something, and God will bless your efforts.

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why wait for interviews here and there? start somtin on your own.

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kato man,

i hav no words to comfort u, let me also let u am in 3 also and trying to just enter 2.2 ,

must still that doesnt matter because it not wat u r taught that is applied in a job,

is wat u know, the practical knowledge that u know u apply,

am also a GURU as my friends call me, am good at my studies but am in 3, it doesnt matter,

why my friends call me GURU is because i have practical knowledge in INTERNET, PROGRAMMING, NETWORKING, WEBSITE DESIGN, ANIMATION e.t.c. for example check my site, www.qmaasim.com

i will just suggest u to do a cetification of CCNA since u r a network literate,

also take the MCSE certification and i promise u will be the hottest cake in nigeria,

cheers,

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Kato, a third class or a pass is not useless oh. Your inability to find a job now is because jobs are not easy to come by and not because of your result.

During my service year, i wrote my first bank test and on the form, we were asked to write our courses and results. I peeped in the guy beside me, he wrote Upper credit-Accounting, the one to my right wrote 2-1 Business Admin. Me, i wrote my humble 2-2 Zoology. Test result came out, i came 5th out of the over 3000 people that wrote the test and got employed by the bank. I worked with the other first four and they read Biology, Geology,English (3rd class) and Political science.

Its a pity that some employers are short sighted and do not see beyond 1st class or Federal Universities. I remember about 3 years ago, i was trying to apply online to a bank and when i put n my course of study (Zoology) and result (2-2) as the on-line form required, i got prompted with the message "I'm sorry you do not meet our criteria, please try somewhere else" despite my banking experiences.

So keep searching, your result is not a problem, at all.

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Hey guys, I got 2.2 in Computer Science, I make more than £300.00 a day contracting, it is all about positioning yourself very well, contact me I will sure brief you on what to do

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You need to forget about the class u came out with,what is important is what u think about urrself.Think positive and move ahead!

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o boy, yours is not lost. Those that came out with first class in so many instances end up a third class citizens while those that passed out with third class are first class guys in the society. Just check it out!

What make the difference is "Y O U". get yourself together and prepare yoursefl well for the next challenge. You may wish to submit your cv to techrecruits@yahoo.com for a review.

All the best

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Bill Gates did not stumble on the bright idea that computers meant money by mistake. Like most nerds of his time, he hacked, tinkered and had a passion for the electronics systems of his teenage days. The DOS and Windows idea came long after.

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3rd class in any field is appalling.  No matter how ''difficult'' your field of study, you only compare youself to others in your discipline, and not people in other disciplines. I will rather repeat the whole exam if possible than graduate with a 3rd.

One way to escape your present quagmire will be to get a post grad cert asap.

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What matters in a proffession is the intensity of passion you have for it. Examinations or degrees are not a true test of knowledge especially when it comes to practical proffessions like computer science. A third class is by no means useless even though employers will over look you for a first or second class guy. Definitely, a first class dude in computer is or must be extremely good but a third class also means you completed the course only on a lower rung. What of the guy who has a pass? Is that useless? If you can proove what you can do, it does not matter what you have. I know many guys who dont even have degree and are crack programmers or hardware gurus. Ask Bill Gates what qualifications he's got. That dude dropped out of school but he sure as hell had a burning passion for electronics and computer. That was all it took.

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The good thing about the field of computers is that , it tends to deal more with practical ability, what can you offer.If you have a first class from all the theoretical aspect and cannot practically do anything , you are in trouble. SO my bros, keep apply ing for jobs, also try to build up your Cv/Resume , volunteer in places and increase your practical ability.In no time you will get hired.

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i think kayus made the most sence, try and figure out where you could work as a volunteer or minimal pay, get the expereince and the reference on your cv and move on. its just unfortunate you may not find much in terms of volunteer placement in naija. i remember the first IT role i took in UK, becos i didnt have UK experience i found it hard to get a job, so i approached a firm that advertised for a position i liked and i volunteered to work for 4 weeks without pay and i even indicated that if at the end of the day they found my job unsatisfactory , they could kick me out. to cut a lond story short, i worked there for almost two years and i had to leave for a better one.

the issue of becoming a consultant sounds bizzare to me given that you graduated only a year ago and i would imagine you do not have loads of experience. i would imagine consultancy has to do with experince, pedigree and business contact. besides i suppose you wont just float in the street as a consultant, you need an office, and some hardware which will certainly cost you money.

be realistic, you know yourself and your capabilities, but sadly enough you didnt have a great result, for whatever reasons. dust yourself, dont let anyone define your scope, start somewhere, save money, write exams and in four - five years time, your 3rd class would have paled into insignificance. all the best

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kato, nothing is wrong with a third class, i guess all the employers u've gone to have given u third class interviews and they basically they don't know it's not all about the result.there are alot of 3rd class graduates who are feeding i mean employing alot of higher class graded people,so don't even let that weigh you down.you need to look at the perspective of the wole soyinka's,gani fawhinmi and tony elumelu's(third class graduates).These guys are all success stories employing 1st class,2.1 and 2.2's.truth be told wat matters most is you skills and abilities.

Personally i graduated with a Third class in accounting and God's grace made me the accountant in a software company with a very fat pay compared with alot of 2.1's and 2.2's i graduated with and i dont have any extra certifications. my boss and interviewer gave mi chance because he looked beyond ma results to see ma skills and abilities and i've not messed up at all.you just have to pray about it.and don't give up if you want a job, and i tell you when you meet the interviwer that knows wat he want's you'll get a job.success man

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Dont let your 3rd class get the better of you. As a personal example I had a 3rd class in geopgraphy and planning from my undergrad a little over 10 years ago and have advanced to be a senior manager/head of IT dept. During this period I acquired a number of certifications and additional degrees required for the job.

I started out by volunteering, through this the employer recognizes his risk in employing you have been minimized. Let the employer know that you are willing to volunteer for a set period of time to prove your worth if s/he is having any doubt in your ability. This does not mean you are desperate but simply want to prove you deserve a chance!

My recommendation, at your next interview is to offer to volunteer for a period (your pocket permitting and your offer is negotiable e.g. employer will pay for transportation) and let them know you are pursuing additional certifications recognized in the field.

Good luck

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If you have all these skills, then you don't need an employer. You can be a consultant: click here.

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Kato I'm sad for you.You know why? You've put your life in the hands of job employers and Nigeria. GEt up man and be self reliant. Start something, no MATTER how small. God has given everyone something to beat life's[/color]expected problems like yours.[color=Black]That something is hidden and only those who have found it stay successful.Look, it just might be your talent. Start small.The biggest failure is never trying at all.You are born to be great.!

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kato i belive you.what have you done to improve yourself i mean have you added anything to your cv?other qualifications to boost your cv.being a third class does not make u a third class citizen. just have faith in yourself and dont be disturbed by the so called empolyers.keep applying for any job you think you are fit for dont give up cos they ask for 22 0r 21.you will definitely get there

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