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Is Begging Now A Profession?

used to drive pass Iju road, Agege (a suburb of Lagos) regularly. There is a particular junction called Fagba Junction. Some of us that are used to the area know how choatic the junction used to be. Just like most Lagos streets, where you find beggers. There are alot of them on this road too. There is this particular young boy I used to notice whenever I pass. He should be around 14 years of age.

On this particular day, he came near my window and sought for alms. I replied him that he should go and enroll in school or trade. Afterall, nothing much is wrong with him only that he had one poor leg as a result of polio effect. He didn't say anything but left to seek favour from other cars waiting in queue. After few minutes he came back and said, "wetin you talk the other time?"I repeated my earlier statement. His response was shocking. He said,"work?, this one wey I dey do Nko?". i.e. This one Im doing what do you call it. I was dumbfolded and I dont even know the next reply i should give.

Please, my pple, what is this situation turning to? Is there any end to this menace? It is a big eyesore finding beggers all over our streets. What picture those it depicts to the outside world. What can we do as individual to discourage this act? What also do you think should be the part of govt. I want your responses.

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Don't call them beggers, call them fund raisers !

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Some of you say the beggars is not real? If about 75% of people in Nigeria is living belove the limit of poverty I think begging is a natural thing people will do to survive?

How can a man survive without begging if he has an education, but not gets a job? So many applying for each job, right? What do you suggest to get a job if you are not son of a rich family?

Most people are poor and I don`t think they choose to be?

Would appreciates some suggestion about how a poor man / woman can get an income in Nigeria? what can they start to make an income?

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lol

Beggers in Action

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As far as i'm concern, beggers=thiefs=arm robbers. This is because these set of people are too lazy and think they do not have what it takes to become something yet they know all the tricks and disguise they need to beg or steal.

I said this because if you consider the stress involve in these unwholesome profession (as the boy said), you will agree that if 50% of the effort they put into these "work" is diverted to something +ve, their lives will turn around but they are just lazy to do that.

I know of a woman who pretends to have bosom cancer and will rap blood-stained-bandages around her bosoms and expose same in order to attract empathy or whatever she think she wants to gain. Now if you consider the smell, flies, and other issues, you will agree with me that if this same woman diverts her ability to something tangible, her life would turn around.

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Tell govt to deal with robbery first. I believe that begging is better than robbery. Given alms to beggers is optional while robbers collects properties by gun.

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na wa o but man must to survive.

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If stealing by goverment is a profession in nigeria,why shouldn't begging be and don't you have beggers as a result of empty coffers and empty policies.

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, begging is becoming something else in this country

all the effort by some state governors to rehablilate some of them is just a waste

that is to show that some are really lazy

MY THOUGHT, if you see a beggar and feels the empathy in your heart, do not hesitate to give, if not go your way

do it if not for anything, do it for God who will reward you

but its even far better to help the MOTHERLESS BABIES HOMES AND PRISONERS

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please Nairalanders, what is monthly package of executive trainee of first bank

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We should take personal stand on this issue.

Let me give this story that happened to a friend at Mile 2 in Lagos.

There is this particular old lady always soliciting for alms every morning at a particular spot. My friend felt touched and ask for the old womans story. The woman says she lives in a makeshift house somewhere and had lost her husband and kids and as such alone in the world. My friend felt touched and asked the woman if she can manage a small scale business in the motorpark. She replied in the affirmative and asked for sometime to think of the business she can do.

My friend wanted to fund this business as a way of assisting this old lady. The woman disappeared for sometime only to resurface and tell my friend not to bother about her as she is comfortable with her present business as she called it but if my friend doesnt mind he can still drop the cash. Can you imagine?

We all contribute to this menace.

They can clean , baby sit ,wash for a fee etc. I can assure you that there is a lot of money that can be made without debasing oneself in this manner.

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The likelihood of beggars turning out as marketers or politicians as against armed robbers is 0.00000005%. . . . . .at least going by the Nigerian database.

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As for me i only give out when i feel like giving out,even here in london you see people begging in subways and to even make it worse there are british citizens and they are been given money at the end of the month by their government and they still beg.

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We are all responsible for the "profitability" of begging business.

The day we stop taking our charity to the street and send our donation to recognized homes that carter for the needy is the day street begging would become unattractive.

How many of us send donations and gifts to less priviledged homes? How many people take their tilt to orphanages? When these unlucky people could not get any help in those designated homes, they have no choice than troop to the street.

What is more, we fail to recognize an ultra modern begging institutions branded in the name of God. Churches, mosques and religious organisations had taken begging to an eniable height. Nobody see how the activities of these organisations raking millions of naira contributes immensely to rise in crime waves and street begging.

In our homes, we have people who are able bodied and need loans to establish petty businesses or better their life. The big men in us would rather take our tilts and sadakat to churches and mosques to earn publicity than our neighbours.

Little wonder why poor men had resorted to street begging to make end meet. I don't blame them at all. In fact, I give them when I am in the mood. And each time I do that, I curse the people responsible for their plight if it is not natural affliction!

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My coleague had a rather funny encounter with one of those beggers recently in Ikeja.

A young man of about 18yrs was asking him for alms but he chose to ignore him politely, the young man then came closer and told him 'That's how we ask for alms now and you won't give, by the time we carry guns now, they will say we are armed robbers'

What do you u call that type?

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@ poster

you are lucky the young man only came to confirm what you d said. Twice around the Martin St and Marina areas of Lagos, I have being approached by "beggars with guns" in broad daylight.

At the Agege area you mentioned, a man left his car to come complain to me that some beggars just approached him carrying a pistol, me I sped off o.

Mind who you roll down your glass for.

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Some beggars dey too harsh.

I remember some professional beggers along dt Ikeja area wey dey always sing correct song for person ear.Chai wetin person no go c sef

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Just trying giving a beggar, begging you money for food ,the snack you were eating and see his/her reactions.

Most def, he/she will refuse and request for money. Not as if you poisoned it o! mind you, you were still eating it.

Like someone said, I think it is a racket and I have stopped giving them money, instead I give to people around me that once in a while get into difficulties. In as much as I believe in giving, I don't expect any one to start using my money for rituals. U know it hurts the mind even if the ritual will eventually have no effect on you. ops! what do you think?

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Thank you jare. They thought Nigeria is the only country in the world where beggrs are found. It is better we analyse issue that condemn everyone. I gives money to beggers if I am in the mood.

We have forgotttten that these people are everywhere. Campus hostels. Homes. Offices. Industries. Everywhere.

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For those living in Nigeria, and having a cavalier attitude towards beggars, I wonder what your attitude would be if you travelled to America and see beggars on various sides of the road, begging for money? You think it is bad in Nigeria, right? In America, regarded as the wealthiest nation in the world, beggars are a common sight, particularly in big cities.

While there is no dignity in begging, it is no different from a pesky friend who constantly begs you for money. If you dont have, just move your way, but please dont criticize them. You dont know their situation.

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A very serious mistake if carried out. I disagree with Seun.

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i as a matter of policy dont give to roadside beggars.they can cause u bodily harm or use u as juju.

my sympathies are now been directed to orphanages and some other institutions that wont turn around and wish u bad.

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@Maxidoe, that's really pathetic, and people still give them money, personally I dont like giving alms to hausa beggers cause I know they are just lazy and wicked.

did I hear you say old and frail /sick,!!!! these ones go a long way to use your money to practice their witchcraft

we only need to be careful cause you can never know when you meet them, its just to give to those you spirit directs you to.

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well lagos as its fair share of beggars, but in ibadan there seems to be a large amount of old women begging its really distrubing i mean there are so many of them to me its unusual anyways i just think since no one can really be sure if they are giving to a real begger or not might as well give in a place where its sure they actually give the needy am sure all our churches have this little box that says for the needy .for me i just give when i feel like fake or no fake dont really matter

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Its not a profession. We hear lot of stories about beggars, some say they are real and viceversa.

If you think or you are not convinced to give why reply them, some people just dont give them a reply or they dont say anything while some give out of pity.

Let me ask you if an adult had come to you would you have asked that question? Whatever your answer is So why not look for ways of ending this menace and live and lets live.

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Thank you,this is quite an intelligent one

I grew up and school in the north,the beggars there are mostly Teens,popularly referred to as ALMAJIRI,i used to pity them and give them money so generously till i got to really know them,which was when there is a religous crises,this Almajiris constitute 90% of those who maim,slauther,molest,and burn alive people whom they know or think are none muslims,i experienced this ugly trend more than 4 times in both Kaduna and Kano states.They would do all this inspeakable acts to men,women,and even children,and would not listen no matter how you beg.I have personaly seen how a pregnant woman got her stomach ripped open with a knife and was left bleed and cry in pain to death.Because os this experience i HATE beggars with a passion.

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I think there are two ways to it. there are genuine needy and there are lazy needy among the beggars. The genuine needy are either handicapped or have some hindering deformities that make working almost impossible whereas you see some other ones who are complete, agile and strong but LAZY.

I think one should help the genuine needy, especially the seriously disabled and the old and frail/sick. but i vehemently frown at giving alms to some lazy boys and girls pr man and woman. To them, begging is a profession, so they should sweat to earn that living just like other hardworking people sweat.

But it will be good if Government can do something about it. If it is not checked, it will spread poverty and manace on the streets.

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Me an scared giving those beggers on the road alms,

I've heard alot about them, I dont want to be a victim to any evil act.

I like giving alms if am in position but hearing the ugly things about these beggers on the road get me scared.

Though some of them needs help really, but how can we fish out the bad ones.

Some of them are on contract work, collect 10 from poeple get 20.

They are depriving people that really need the help their help.

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Kinda sad that beggin has become a deep racket that we seem not to know about, In major Nigerian cities evry beggar space is owned by various cartels( u cant just wake up n take ur mat to start beggin any where/ u mite loose ur life), am talkin about beggin as a form of organized crime(yeah like cosa nostra) filled with deceit,sex,lies,fetish and even outright murder.Some of these beggars are even coerced by the cartels to use their ailments to draw sympathy, Beggin is alot deeper than we all know it, beneath those pitiful faces is a crime story.

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The point I want to make is let us be of courage to the less priviledges. The courage I mean is not giving them money only but bring out some moral support remind them of something alternative to do out side begging. let's encourage sports, music, intertainments. these are things that reduce begging in developed world in america these are things that reduces begging to the number they are now, if not uppon their riches some lazy black americans excluding african origins who knows how they suffered to get visa would have mostly engaged in street  begging. I feel for them and am making plans toward something as my on contribution to my sweet nation issue like this.

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Great point from great child.

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[color=#770077][/color]Begging is not a profession but people are making a Profession out of it. Xt have mercies.

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Na so we see am oh….too many of them around town

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Ono, the beggar kids you see on the streets may eventually grow up to be criminals and armed robbers, because they're already used to getting money without working for it. Where do you think area boys come from?

Don't get me wrong, my heart goes out to the less privileged but they're turning begging into an institution. There's a beggar without any visible sign of disability who I've seen begging on the streets since she was a child and I was in secondary school. Over 14 years ago & she's now a grown woman still begging on the streets. Part of charity is helping people help themselves. Helping them empower themselves is a better alternative. We cannot continue to indulge able people who use the excuse that the country is hard. It's hard for everyone.

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The middle class is re – emerging, the economy is getting better

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[center]sometimes I wonder how we got here, were the rich gets richer

and the poor gets poorer, and the so called middle class has been wiped out,

there should be away out of begging and I think one sure way out is access to

EDUCATION for all, no matter who you are.[/center]

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Thank you.

I give beggers money but not all of them. No matter how they fake it. I cannot be decieved by beggers again. They have done that in the past and succeeded, not now that my eyes are opened

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[center]sometimes I wonder how we got here, were the rich gets richer

and the poor gets poorer, and the so called middle class has been wiped out,

there should be away out of begging and I think one sure way out of access to

EDUCATION for all, no matter who you are.[/center]

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@ Efuah LOL, io wasn’t trying to be funny, was just my sentiments, if u really don’t mind giving dem den don’t stop,

I just feel they are not deserviong, most of dem actually fake those disabilities while odas use d money for ritual, besides in d 9t they are the traffic thieves

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Well am sorry but I have little or no sympathy for beggars, I don’t give them money either. If itrs their job so be it but their salary aint coming from me

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I will never give any beggars money in Nigeria since I learnt that some use your money to do JUJU and others are basically greedy.

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Well its bad that our cities are full of beggers. Naija own too much. I think the only way to discourage them is to stop giving them alms.

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Begging is not a profession but I really don't see why we should judge them. It's not an easy thing to do and when we say these plp should get jobs, I always wonder where we expect them to get jobs.

Is it in the same country where graduates and people with other formal kind of training go about from street to street, site to site seeking for jobs?

These people don't even have any form of training and are greatly disadvantaged.

Besides, the only thing a lot of them have ever done and known how to do is begging so, where do you want them to start from?

Sure, a few of them will be lucky to have dreams, stumble across someone or something that will change their lives forever and they will live a different life,but that is a very little percentage.

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Interesting replies.

I think those of you who back the 'trade' definitely believe something motivates these beggars. Why should anything in this world motivate someone to go cap in hand abegging? . . . . . .just wondering out loud.

But, in retrospect, I think I'll live peaceably with these beggars than armed robbers.

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there is absolutely nothing wrong in giving

and like ndipe said--if uve got some to spare give,and if u cant move on.

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Same thing here. The beggars on the streets of downtown Chicago have on the latest snickers and designer jeans. And these are able bodied individuals with absolutely nothing wrong with them. I still give one particular one about a buck a week though. Only because he is the only one that kind of says something, and wishes you a safe trip home, a blessed day on the way in, he even gives Xmas cards to his good customers.

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Summary:

That boy was self-employed and begging was his profession (Has a PHD with years of experience to show).

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@the poster, why should the perception of the outside world on begging in Nigeria be an issue for all and sundry? Even in America, touted as the wealthiest nation in the world, there are beggars, lining up the streets, roads, holding cups, and advertising their condictions on placards to attract sympathisers. I am not in the position to judge them, because it is all about the vicissitudes of life. While it may not be a noble profession, however, there are some people who have been rewarded greatly in this profession. I understand that in certain parts of San Francisco, there are some beggars who have 'carved' out their own territory that no other beggar may traverse into that section, without risking a fight.

So, if you see a beggar and can afford to give him a handout, do so, if not, go your way. Most importantly, thank God that you are not in their situation to understand if they are real or fake.

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Some beggars build Houses using your money

Some do juju for u using ur money according to what I heard

Be careful while giving alms

Though its good to have empathy for the poor

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yes o. it is a big time business especially in the north cos affluent hausas are very generous to beggers. if u travel down there and u dnt understand hausa then u wnt know that the pitiful face they pull is all a front

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