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Why Should Fg Discriminate Against Hnd Holders?

I saw an advert in one of the dailies 2 days ago. Ministry of interior incharge of Police, Civil Defence, Immigration and Prison services wants to employ. They stated in the advert that Bsc holders will be taken in their superintendant cadre while HND and ND holders will be taken as Inspectors and assistant Inspectors respectively. what manner of discrimination is this?? Coming from the same Federal Government that claims HND and Bsc holders are given equal treatment in terms of FG emploment. I wonder what they want employers in the private sector to do to HND holders if they can do this. What do you guys have to say about this discrimination coming from those who are suppose to fight against it.

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Glory to God for everything. Well,

l'm not wishing nor praying to work under public or private organization as HND holder. I'll employment both HND and BSc. holders in the nearest future without discrimination. We need a better Nigeria, let's use our initiatives. God bless u my fellow Nigerians. I love both HND and BSc. holders. Cheer up!

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Presently the community and some educators as well as politicians call to the government to cancel HND degrees, because employees (their holders) get discriminated at work. Some of them are denied promotion just because they have the HND and not B.sc. Federal Government and senate has taken steps to even out the situation. Still, many people with HND are looking to bridge the gap and upgrade it without having to do over the entire course. Some schools offer them such an opportunity.

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It has become a plague to have HND in nigeria. Just wished the government could phase out HND programs and give varsity status to competent polytechnics.

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@HND-holder

What would happen to holders of HND who were recently employed as Level 07 officers (inspectors) instead of Level 08 (one star) in immigration, prisons and civil defence??

Are they going to regularise and give them their correct Level (i.e. Level 08) immediately??

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FG removes ceiling on HND holders’ ranking

By Segun Olatunji, Kaduna

Published: Tuesday, 8 Jul 2008

The Federal Government has removed the ceiling on the salary grade level/ rank that holders of the Higher National Diploma could attain in the public service.

The Federal Government also made the Ordinary National Diploma the new minimum entry point into the public service.

These were contained in a document entitled: “Government White Paper on the Report of the Presidential Committee on the Consolidation of Emoluments in the Public Sector,” obtained by our correspondent in Kaduna on Monday.

According to the 40-page paper, the Presidential Committee on the Consolidation of Emoluments in the Public Sector set up by the immediate past president, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, in November 2005 under the chairmanship of the former head of the defunct Interim National Government, Chief Earnest Shonekan, had discovered that “Entrants into the public service with HND do not have the opportunity to reach the highest grade even when they are found competent.”

Before the removal of the ceiling on the salary grade level/ rank, the promotion of HND holders in the nation’s public service terminated at Grade Level 14 while their counterparts holding university degrees were allowed to reach level 17.

The committee, therefore, recommended that, “It is desirable for the purposes of relativity that entrants into the public service where such organisations, agencies or institutions operate HAPPS, HATHSS must have the full opportunity to reach the highest grade if they are found competent.”

But in accepting the recommendation of the presidential committee, the Federal Government further directed in the White Paper that, “The dichotomy and ceiling on the Salary Grade Level/Rank attainable by Higher National Diploma holders should be removed.

“OND or its equivalent from any Government recognised institution should be regarded as the new minimum point of entry.

“Salary Grade level 01-05 should be phased out by 1st January, 2008.

“The current scheme of service should be reviewed to reflect the above recommendation.

Justifying the Federal Government’s decision, the White Paper stated, “This is in line with the ideas and spirit behind the current reform programme of the government.”

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Yes polytechnic now for Engineering Technology ans Science Technology

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@HND-holder

Are you saying polytechnics will not be allowed to run BTech in ACCOUNTANCY and BUSINESS ADMIN?? But ATB University BAUCHI awards BTech in Accounting, so why won't polytechnics run BTech Accounting or Accountancy too?

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In the proposal, he said, "About three or four issues were agreed upon, first the entry requirement must be a minimum of five credits at SSCE, including English and Mathematics. At the recent consultative meeting with heads of polytechnics and monotechnics on the implementation of the new and revised technical and vocational education curricula held in Kaduna, Yakubu had stressed the upgrading of the entry requirement into the ND programmes to five credit level passes.

The ND will continue as it is (running for two years). Then there will be a three-year Bachelor of Technology after the ND without the one-year industrial training break. "This means that somebody who has a credit level pass at the ND can now go and spend three years at the end of which he gets the Bachelor of Technology, within a total time of five years, regardless of the area, so long as it is B.Tech in core areas.

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Yes, the civil service understand degree not DIPLOMA

2. Five Credit no more four.

3. Obtained after ND

4. Accountancy and business people no More.

@texazzpete

I am not too old to apologise to you. next time do not say things that can lead to provocation. We were deceived to go to polytechnic, Nurses do not surfer the way we suffered. This is the time they either close the polytechnics or turn them to university of technology.

I am sorry.

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That's the point i've been making since! the HND is not neccessarily inferior to the Beng. But there's a discrimination ongoing in Nigeria that has been on for decades.

If you genuinely thought that the HND was a tech equivalent of the Ben, my apologies to you. The point i've been making since was that though they are comparable, there has been a discrimination existing for a long time, and i assumed anyone going for a HND would already have known of this.

As for the Btech question, i'm pretty sure employers know that Btech is a renaming of the HND decree. It depends on their attitudes to stop this discrimination

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@texazzpete

You too take it easy. Thanx for your great respect for holders of Nigerian HND certificate. But you have not come out to tell us why on earth the HND certificate in Nigeria cannot be compared with the Bsc or BTech certificate in Nigeria. I thought the HND certificate was a Technological qualification equivalent to a Bsc or BTech certificate that was why i agreed to do the HND program. Can u tell us what the difference is between the curricula of polytechnics and universities? Can u also tell us those that do more work in academics both practical and theory?

Lastly do you think BTech certificates from polytechnics (as already proposed in Nigeria)will recieve honours and recognition like the BSc and BTech from universities?

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@HND-holder

Please take it easy with that Degree holder.

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It is never a good thing to provoke HND holders we can kill u

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My own is that poly BTech may face discrimination like HND

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HND holders we are not afraid to fall, we are down already may those provoking us sink lower, may their certificate become useless in their hand so as to know the pains involved. HND is a stressfull certificate nobody earn it without a reason which are non of your business. we are down already . But anyperson or group of persons that want to provoke us, may they face the worst discrimination on earth. May they ever be denied their right, toooo

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Therein lies my problem with all you guys.

Every single thread started by HND holders has soon degenrated into a bash-the -Bsc guys session. i agree you guys have been discriminated against, but is that any reason to have so much bitterness towards people who went to Universities?

A similar thread was started to lament the discrimination of Technicians compared to BEng graduates. Next thing we knew it turned into a 'techincians are far better than Engineers' debate.

The fact that i'm a BEng holder does not automatically make me arrogant or selfish. It was your arrogance, your silly assumptions that brought out the devil in me.

All you could have done was to state what eactly made you choose a Poly over a University. it could have been for a myriad of reasons. All i know is that this discrimination has been on for years and years and people walked into that situation willingly.

Ps: English is our national language.

Did i say otherwise?

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You lack manners and you are so arrogant, You shall soon  experience things that make people like you to appreciate others.

Grammar is not our language, ones you can pick the meaning.

what ever you sow you will reap

HND holders are human beings too

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So at your age your written English is this poor?

What exactly am i 'ungratiful' for? At least i imagine you meant to say 'ungrateful'. I certainly do not owe gratitude to YOU, i express my gratitude to my parents all the time and my gratitude to my country is reflected in my taxes.

If you'r silly enough at your age to believe anyone who went to a university must be an Ajebutter, i don't know what to say to you. But i imagine my former roommate (Fidelis) who used to soak gari and fish head to survive will not agree with you.

Neither will my friend Lauren who lost her parents yet went on to become a successful medical doctor.

Why do you refer to yourself as 'We'?! Multiple Personality Disorder is a serious mental illness.

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Why are you sounding as ungratiful child?. If you have nothing to offer here back out. I can show you letters

JAMB/ADMS/83/

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EXAM NO 602021

SERIAL NO 04974

TO UNIVERSITY OF ILORIN

SAME TO 1982 SERIAL NO 00011

29189CE

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We went through the polytechnic yet

You are just a Kid that knew nothing but reaping from where you did no so

Ajebutter keep shut

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Lets not forget that all fingers are not equal.Things might be little easier when you have alternative.

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Don't be silly.

Instead of asing me rhetorical questions and raining unfounded insults you should ask yourself if i've said an untruth here.

Did you not know what you were in for? Don't give me that financial line bullshit. How much did the JAMB exam cost then?

I met many people who were really broke in my university, but somehow they had the courage to soldier through.

It matters naught what they do in Namibia. What matters is what obtains in Nigeria, and as far back as i can remember the discrimination between HND and BEng was in place.

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As B. Tech Unseats HND

http://allafrica.com/stories/200806250141.html

This Day (Lagos)

NEWS

24 June 2008

Posted to the web 25 June 2008

Lagos

A new phase of polytechnic education begins with the federal government's recent approval of the phasing out of the Higher National Diploma (HND) for the Bachelor of Technology (B. Tech) degree. Bukola Olatunji writes on how the programme is proposed to run

Polytechnic education in the country cannot be the same again with the recent directive given to the Minister of Education, Dr. Igwe Aja-Nwachuku to introduce the Bachelor of Technology (B.Tech) in core areas in polytechnics.

All polytechnics have been notified to continue the award of the National Diploma and begin the gradual introduction of the B. Tech programmes in areas where they have the wherewithal and competence.

What is now left for the Ministry of Education is to work out the modalities. All things being equal, the transition is expected to be complete, along with the legal backing, by the end of the present administration.

Will the degrees coming out of polytechnics be seen as inferior and have to struggle for recognition? Executive Secretary of the National Board for Technical Education (NBTE), Dr. Nuru Yakubu said in an interview at the weekend, "our answer to that is an emphatic 'No'". Rather, he said, they would be superior as facts on ground show. "Go and see the products of polytechnics that had the ND and went into Universities of Technology. Their performance, so far, both academically and in the field is not comparable to those that start from the 100 level in universities. In any event, the purpose is to produce very good Engineers, not Academics and this is the best procedure."

According to him, 'the core areas in polytechnics' have to be discussed, but the Act, which empowers NBTE to do accreditation, identifies the core areas of polytechnic training as science, technology, engineering and commerce. "So, I would say that even though the generality of the people think that only science, technology and engineering programmes are covered, commerce is also there, so courses or programmes that can be defined to be within the realm of commerce, I think, should also be regarded as core."

On how the programme would run, Yakubu said the Board had met with the Rectors of polytechnics, both state and federal and articulated its position on how it thinks the implementation should go.

In the proposal, he said, "About three or four issues were agreed upon, first the entry requirement must be a minimum of five credits at SSCE, including English and Mathematics. At the recent consultative meeting with heads of polytechnics and monotechnics on the implementation of the new and revised technical and vocational education curricula held in Kaduna, Yakubu had stressed the upgrading of the entry requirement into the ND programmes to five credit level passes.

The ND will continue as it is (running for two years). Then there will be a three-year Bachelor of Technology after the ND without the one-year industrial training break. "This means that somebody who has a credit level pass at the ND can now go and spend three years at the end of which he gets the Bachelor of Technology, within a total time of five years, regardless of the area, so long as it is B.Tech in core areas.

"There will be a new curriculum, and this new curriculum, we also agreed, would be under the NBTE which should be renamed or changed into the National Commission for Polytechnics. That curriculum should be designed and developed by the National Commission for Polytechnics, which should also be the one to accredit the B.Tech programmes, not the National Universities Commission because we feel that if we are going to maintain the character and specialised nature of these polytechnics, they should have this body that accredits their own programmes otherwise, there will be no value added", the Executive Secretary explained.

As far as certification is concerned, he said, "We are of the view that after the two years, they would take the National Diploma. Then those that have credit level pass can now compete to get into the Bachelor of Technology programme and we think that judging from what is on the ground, the transition rate of those that possess the National Diploma, who go for the Higher National Diploma is between 20 and 25 percent. It is therefore possible to expect this proportion to go into the degree programme. This will greatly enhance enrolment into the degree programmes in polytechnics and we feel this is the best way forward."

It had been argued before that if another body accredits the degree programme in Polytechnics, such degrees could be dismissed with a snigger and a wave of the hand. But Yakubu said, "Our answer to that is simple. Let the market decide. Let the employers decide. Let us not just limit the argument within the realm of academic speculations. There is nothing wrong with that because there are many countries that have several bodies accrediting the award of degrees. We should be more innovative and consider our peculiar circumstances.

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You are just a poor boy of yesterday who knew nothing of what we are talking about here. Do u want want those that are not as lucky as yourself financial wise or parental wise who decided to have a taste of technological education as alternative to die?This was not the pattern in other world even third world NAMIBIA to mention a few. Keep your mouth shut if you have no reasonable thing to say here.

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Everyone here KNEW there was a discrimination before they entered the polytechnic. This isn't a case of attending NYSC with Bsc people or being told fancy promises. You all KNEW.

Knowing that you were going to be discriminated against, you guys still entered the Poly. So why the uproar now?

You set yourselves up for this, and now you're getting what you had to have known was coming, you're crying. That's pathetic.

I'm not here to say that BSc Graduates are better or smarter. All i'm saying is there's a harsh reality on ground and you all had to have known this. When i wrote my JAMB in 1997 i knew that PolyJamb was not an option so id idnt even consider it.

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This is true come 2008/09, also accountancy and Business studies to leave poly.

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@HND-holder

I learnt FG wants polytechnics to start awarding BTech Degrees. The BTech will replace HND. How true is this story?

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if HND certificate is what is causing problem for polytechnics in Nigeria it should be scrapped and abolished and replaced with another certificate so that poly graduates can breath and eat well again. The discrimination of HND certificate has affected so many mentally and psychologically.

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am a hnd holder and am real smart. i don't boast but mos university students cant stand me. I write exams test 4 those in d universities eg:UNILAG so at d end wat's in a certificate. the world has gone global its either they merge polys as university colleges do some upgrades and make nigerian education qualitative. Lastly, technology cant be thrown away look at AMERICA JAPAN CHINA INDIA UK RUSSIA GERMANY even INDONESIA its all about science development nothing is taken 4 granted. As long as we have half baked, mediocres in the senate, house of assembly its a ground for the blind leading those dat see.

money eating minsters PDP mafias

Long and short of it all is dat no man or woman is/can be valued by paper certificate but by the worth of his mentality and proof of work and experience so the HND 's and Bsc's should be treated equally. CIAO

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But why is it so? Polytechnics carry more load than universities and yet some people still think it is not enough for HND certificate to be compared with a Bsc degree.

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I doubt if you know the meaning of middle level manpower. If you call HND middle level, what would you call ND?? are you going to say ND is lower level manpower if i may ask??

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Yes why is it that the work load in the polytechnic is more they should close these school if when you have the HND you can not move agian. Useless university certificates will be more useless.

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Bsc is superior to HND. That is a fact that cannot be disputed.

HND was created to cater for mid level manpower. It's been like

that for ages. It's now more obvious because of the scarcity of

good jobs.

Even if you are a civil servant, there is a level you cannot go

past as a HND holder.

I'm a HND holder and I did not bother to look for a job because

of this. But I'm not bothered because I knew whats up before

I went to the polytechnic.

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90% of polytechnic lecturers are university graduates; why is it like that?? To me polytechnic lecturers should be people that passed through polytechnic (HND program) before proceeding to the university for further studies. This also to me accounts for why some polytechnic graduates in science and Technology fields know nothing about practical technology.

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ASUP was so selfish, all member of ASUP were university Drop out, they came as glorified lectures in polytechnic so they do not have what it takes to be a university of technology lecturers that is why

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Me i would have loved both HND and polytechnic to go together. Nigerians hate HND certificate not because of the name but because it comes from polytechnic, and people do not believe in anything that comes from polytechnic; so let both of them go.

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For sur the end has come for HND not polytechnic

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@HND-holder

I pray HND leaves Nigeria soon o, because it is a very difficult certificate.

Yes o, if PDP god-father, Adedibu can die it means HND will surely pass away too.

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I am still better than most degree holders who are my mates. B,Tech they say will replace the HND. I was planning to go to ADEDIBU house at Ibadan to report the monster call HND. But the man died, so if he can die HND will sure leave Nigeria.

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HND-holder, you are very funny.

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I have no regrets as HND holder for it afford me to see something to fight for.

come 2008/2009 is the replacement of the monster call HND so they said.

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In my next world i will never go close to polytechnic and HND. I have had enough of the discrimination.

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This is serious.

I will advice all other HND holders to do as Hnd holder said

ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN NIGERIA

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In compass and tribune newspaper of yesterday I read that HND is going! going!! what does that mean?

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My own advice is that HND and polytechnics in Nigeria should be scrapped. alot of people have died as a result of high BP and hypertension from HND discrimination. people should stop going to look for admission in the polytechnics; the better you go and learn business or trade.

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THE RED LIGHT SIGNALS FOR THE POLYTECHNIC EDUCATION AND HND IN NIGERIA

Nigeria should grant the Polytechnics the power to award Bachelors degrees, Masters and PhD Degrees.

For those of us who took the decision of going to the Polytechnic in preference to a University on the believe that the Polytechnic training in some disciplines like Engineering, Accounting, etc should just take it that we have already made a mistake by Society's perspective and the only way of correcting it is by improving oneself to obtain higher degrees from the Universities, through the longer route of studying first for a Post Graduate Diploma.

If the refuse to either scrap the Polytechnics or the HND programmes, now that we know that the Nigerian Society does not recognise or give HND holders equal recognition as the Bachelors degree holders, we the HND holders now know that "We must NEVER allow our Wards, Children or Relatives to go to the Polytechnics. By the time this happens in the next 20 years, the Polytechnics will die a natural death. This is very simple.

With this, it will not matter whether or not the National Assembly passes a bill on BSC/HND parity or "Disparity" as the case maybe. Democracy is a game of numbers and in a National Assembly where you have more people with University degrees followed by those who hold no higher qualifications at all, it becomes clear the Holders of HND are in the minority and I wonder what magic we expect them to do in order to pass a bill that will favour holders on HND!!

As for the HND programmes and Polytechnics it is just a matter of time for it to face a natural extinction when they begin to experience very low or no patronage at all. If the Nigeria Education Planners do nothing about this disparity, then the Polytechnics will just die off, it will be then who have failed and not you the HND holder.

The truth is that an HND holder, who decides, either by way of carelessness or care-freeness or laziness, not to go back to school to obtain a higher certificate 5 to 10 years after obtaining the HND certificate, should blame himself or herself.

My advice to all HND holder is that they should just take the pains to go for a Postgraduate Diploma Programme, then a Masters and if possible a PhD, so that we can overcome all these trauma and embarrassment. Even if not for promotion at work, but to give you this psychological satisfaction that you can study higher than HND level and off course by the time you are in the same class with those who claim that they know better or that they are better because they hold the Bachelors degree, you would have convinced yourself that you are equally good and maybe even better. That way no Bachelors degree holder will tell you "RUBBISH" Even though I have a master degree today and presently pursuing a doctoral degree, I am proud and will remain proud that I started from the Polytechnic, if Nigeria is like America where you have Polytechnics like Massachusset Institute of Technology that have programmes up to PhD level, I will do all my studies and obtain all my Degrees from a Polytechnic.

There is no doubt that the Ministries of Education and the Education Ministers in Nigeria are a confused lot who have no focus as exemplified by "Oby due process” regime in the Ministry.

Come folks, let's improve ourselves and fortunes and then allow these already failed Nigeria Educational Planners to die with their dirty and unproductive-planning and execution of educational policies in Nigeria!!!

By Prince Uzoma Nwokorie

upn_1200@yahoo.com

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THE RED LIGHT SIGNALS FOR THE POLYTECHNIC EDUCATION AND HND IN NIGERIA

Disturbing signals are beginning to emerge, as discrimination against holders of the higher national diploma qualification is becoming a serious indictment of our undue knack for certificates considering the impressive profile and success stories of many graduates from the polytechnics.

The likes of Educational minister (Minister of State 1)openly claimed that he was once in the polytechnic. Dr. Jerry Anthony Agada obtained a diploma in Commerce from Kaduna Polytechnic in 1973 as well as a Technical Teachers Certificate in Commerce of the Technical Teachers College, Yaba, Lagos in 1974. He proceeded to the University of Exeter (MARJONS) Plymouth, UK in 1981 where he obtained a Bachelor of Education Degree. Dr. Agada also holds a Master of Commerce in Marketing from University of Strathclyde, Glasgow Scotland. Dr. Agada’s Ph.D is in Public Sector Management from Staton University, Florida in 2003. He also holds a certificate in Managing, Contracting and Partnership for Service Delivery University of Birmingham (School of Public Policy) in October, 2003.

He did not have HND as he claimed on the NTA Newsfile of Saturday. The Minister of State’s working career took him through Government College Keffi and Government College Makurdi as a teacher of Business Education. He rose through the rank to become the Principal of Government College Makurdi from 1988 – 1992. Dr. Agada

became Principal (Special Grade) in Government College, Utonkon (1993 – 1996). He was

the Executive Secretary, Benue State Examination Board (1996 – 1999) and then Permanent

Secretary in four Ministries in Benue State as follows: Ministry of Information, Youth, Sports

and Culture (1999 – 2000); Ministry of Education (2000 – 2001);Ministry of Local

Government and Chiefetaincy Affairs (2001 – 2006) and Bureau of Political Affairs

(February, 2006 – September, 2006). He voluntarily retired from the Benue State Civil

Service in September, 2006 and was the PDP Gubernatorial Aspirant for Benue State during

the December, 2006 primaries.Dr. Agada has some publications to his credit.

http://www.ican-ngr.org/31_acaholder.htm In Nigeria and most parts of the world, employers of labour now discriminate against chartered accountants that do not possess any university education on grounds that the professional training they received is restricted and parochial. In a global business environment, resource managers must necessarily possess broad-based knowledge which only the university curricula can provide.

ACA with Degrees and ACA with HNDs Although, the holder of a Bachelor's degree in accountancy from an accredited University and a holder of the Higher National Diploma from an accredited Polytechnic enjoy the same rating in ICAN's scheme of things, many employers of labour, including practicing firms, are now known to prefer degree holders to HND holders. The samples of adverts above did not mention the HND although one of them said a degree or its equivalent awarded by a reputable university! It is a known fact that no university in Nigeria awards any HND. Thus, their preference is unambiguous. In fact, the career path of the polytechnic holder in the public service has an unofficial bar according to an investigation conducted by The Guardian newspaper. According to the report, while the HND holder can rise to Grade level 13 or USS 12, the graduate can rise to Grade level 14 or USS 13. It added that some new generation banks have a policy of not recruiting HND holders at all.

Discrimination against holders of the higher national diploma HND qualification is a serious indictment "The best solution is for polytechnic lecturers to go on strike while the students protest. This is rubbish. Na wa o, don't we have people with HND certificate in the house of assembly?? Why can't they stand up and defend the polytechnic/HND curriculum?? who says polytechnic curriculum in engineering is only Technical?? It's not true; it is both technical, theoretical and contains design too. What about other fields like accountancy, architecture, surveying, computer science, statistics, estate mgt etc; are they also only technical without theory??

Holders of HND are not the same as their counterparts from the universities, House throws out Bill on Degree/HND Disparity. House of Representatives threw out a bill, seeking removal of the civil service disparity in the treatment of University Degree holders and Higher National Diploma (HND) holders. The bill, sponsored by Honourable Ini Udo from Akwa Ibom State, and seconded by Honourable Ekpo Ekperikpe, also from Akwa Ibom, was debated by the lawmakers for 30 minutes, and duly set aside after majority of the lawmakers adduced reasons to justify the disparity. Honourable Abbas Braimoh, while arguing against the bill, said “having done a cerebral dissection of the course content of universities and polytechnics as regards my profession, engineering, I have noticed that the polytechnics’ course content is technical, while that of the university is both technical and involves design, which to me is the core and fundamental aspect of engineering. Do accountants design? Technology is not the same as engineering, but what about B.Tech degress?

So with all due respect, holders of HND are not the same as their counterparts from the universities. Other members who supported the argument also argued along the same line, insisting that the prayers of the Bill were unnecessary.

The bill was first brought to the floor of the House in 2007, but could not be taken for political exigencies.

“why can't one or some of the senators move a motion for the scrapping of HND in Nigeria?? Since this is just waste of money and power, The HND issue is really a serious problem to Nigerians. Let them abolish HND and allow people to hear word i beg.”

They said they are planning to replace the HND, with what?

The opinion of Deputy President of NATE

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@HND-holder

Let dem abolish HND please and allow polytechnics to be awarding BTech. NCE has no problem as far as i'm concern.

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FG may phase out HND, NCE certificates

By Victor Sam

Published: Thursday, 29 May 2008

As part of its plan to reform the tertiary education the Federal Government has begun moves to gradually phase out the Higher National Diploma and the National Certificate of Education.

This is coming barely a week after the House of Representatives threw out a motion seeking to harmonise the HND and NCE with the Bachelor’s Degree awarded by universities.

Also, the federal government has restored the junior secondary level at all Federal Unity Colleges, which were phased out by the last administration.

It, therefore, mandated the National Examination Council to conduct entrance examination into JSS in all FUCs beginning this 2008/09 academic session.

The Minister of Education, Dr Igwe Aja-Nwachuku, stated these on Wednesday during a ministerial press briefing to mark the administration’s one year in office.

According to the Minister, government would strengthen the Polytechnics and COEs and make them first degree awarding institutions with the award of Bachelor of Technology and Bachelor of Education respectively.

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FG shelves conversion of polytechnics to universities

Tribune 23.05.2008

The Federal Government said on Thursday in Abuja that it had shelved the planned conversion of polytechnics into universities. ``Our new direction is to make Polytechnics and Colleges of Education first degree awarding institutions.

``The consolidation of contiguous tertiary institutions has been suspended because of the uniqueness of polytechnics to national development,'' said Dr Aja Nwachukwu, the Education Minister.

Nwachukwu, who announced this at a news conference, said government had resolved to strengthen the institutions, to make them concentrate on their primary mandate.

``We decided to strengthen the polytechnic education and make the institutions concentrate on their primary mandate and increase access to tertiary education,'' he said.

Nwachukwu said government planned to phase out Higher National Diploma (HND) and replace it with Bachelor of Technology, as the institutions matured.

Colleges of Education (COE), he emphasised, would be upgraded to award Bachelor of Education (B.Ed) in addition to National Certificate in Education (NCE).

Nwachukwu said Junior Secondary Schools had also been restored in unity colleges, in compliance with the Universal Basic Education (UBE) law.

``We have decided to bring back the JSS National Examinations Council (NECO) has been mandated to conduct entrance examination for JSS 1 students for 2008/2009 academic year,'' he said.

Nwachukwu said the concession of the schools to private operators had also been halted. “They are visible evidence of federal presence in many localities, giving them out negates these objectives,” he said.

``We also discovered that there was no risk-sharing arrangement in the plan. ``The operators would have been given money to run the schools, rather than they investing their resources, '' he said.

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@HND-holder

why can't one or some of the senators move a motion for the scrapping of HND in Nigeria?? The HND issue is really a serious problem to Nigerians. Let them abolish HND and allow people to hear word i beg.

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